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3:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvkS0Wc3Q2E
this song is quite funny :)
I've looped it like 50 times now...
 
3:12 PM
Hello @jrg - are you around?
 
jrg
Oh hello @BadLearner!
So, removing unity is a bad idea, for a number of reasons:
 
Hi, so, plz tell me why it's a bad idea/
okay...
 
jrg
first, it removes the ubuntu-desktop package
which means,
that if something has a security update,
you won't get it as quickly, because the ubuntu-desktop meta package gets updated for security stuff as well.
(you'll still get it, but it won't be as fast)
 
okay
 
jrg
secondly, if you remove it, it has the potential to break a lot of things, including notify-osd (the notification system).
(that's from personal experience)
so, you can remove it, but you have to be aware of what the problems you might run into are.
 
3:16 PM
Won't Unity lag my system even a bit, now that I am running Gnome 3 and Unity?
 
jrg
It shouldn't.
unity uses gnome 3
what you're talking about is gnome-shell.
 
Okay. Yeah, right.
 
jrg
unity is a desktop shell.
same as gnome-shell.
and you can only use one at a time.
 
Thanks a lot for inviting me here @jrg.
And thanks again for helping me out
:)
 
jrg
You're welcome. :)
:)
 
3:19 PM
Lots of tweaking to do in Gnome 3 now. Good day.
:')
 
jrg
Have fun! :)
 
I may be missing an obvious question, but i have some phantom process thats looping itself and filling a log file somewhere, is there a better way to find it than du -h'ing around?
 
jrg
htop - assuming you want to find the process and kill it.
 
@jrg still around?
 
jrg
Yup
 
3:29 PM
I have a problem
Unity is overlapping with Gnome
 
jrg
?
screenshot?
 
The windows exit (X) button, window theme etc are like in Unity, not like in Gome
Gnome*
1 sec
 
jrg
ah.
do you have gnome-tweak-tool?
 
I didn't install it specifically. I have compiz
 
jrg
well, you can't (easily) use gnome shell and compiz.
so, you need to install gnome-tweak-tool: sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool
 
3:31 PM
oh, so... removing compiz may do the trick?
 
jrg
don't remove compiz.
 
jrg
do that and you'll have a lot of problems. gnome shell uses mutter/metacity.
 
Okay, so what should I do now? install gnome-tweak-tool: sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool ??
 
jrg
yeah, install gnome tweak tool, using that command.
and then, run it.
 
3:33 PM
done, what next?
check the configs?
 
jrg
22
A: How do I change fonts and adjust their size?

fossfreedomFor 11.10: This is a common issue on the forums - the move to gnome3 has dumped many of the customisation features that were available in gnome2. One GUI tool that exists in Software Center is - its a partial solution to allow you to customise some of the desktop. Click here to install it: g...

that answer is for fonts,
but the same general principle is for the theme.
you'll want to change the GTK+ theme entry to adwaita, as well as your window theme.
 
font? I am talking about window buttons. Okay, I will take a look anyway
ok
 
jrg
did that work?
 
I dont think so. Let me show you... 1 sec
at the top-right corner
It's still the Ubuntu/Unity style
 
jrg
one moment, let me login to gnome shell and take a look at the plain gnome i've got setup.
 
3:38 PM
Gnome style would look like this - gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/beautiful-3.png
sure, I will wait
Plus, I see a warning in the gnome-tweak-tool: img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/11/32510390640-orig.jpg
 
jrg
how did you login?
did you do it like this?
(of course selecting the GNOME option instead of Xubuntu)
 
Oh... I just logged out, then clicked the gear icon and changed it to Gnome, just like in your screenshot
 
jrg
ok.
hm.
 
Maybe I should set Gnome as default and restart my PC?
 
jrg
shouldn't need to.
waits for gnome to log him in
 
3:43 PM
okay
I see a warning in the gnome-tweak-tool:
see the triangular warning?
 
jrg
yeah, i see it.
 
could that be the problem?
 
jrg
possibly.
 
@jrg ty for reminding me to check processes :| i havent even had my morning coffee yet
apache went rogue on me and started dumping all over itself
 
jrg
@lazyPower ouch.
 
3:46 PM
0
Q: Ubuntu Server Continuously "goes to sleep"

Mike WillsI am running a web server at home using Ubuntu 11.4 (maybe? I can't 100% recall) on an older AMD 2400+ desktop with 1 or 2 GB of RAM. Sorry I can't recall the details 100%. Anyway, I have a KVM hooked up to a monitor and PS2 keyboard that I use to switch between the server and my iMac (The keybo...

 
eh, thats what happens when you ramp up traffic on a website and dont have any kind of monitoring on the box.
lesson learned
 
jrg
@lazyPower wasn't it you who was lecturing me about how awesome nagios is? :P
 
@jrg - - I will be right back. I will set Gnome as default, then restart my PC and see
 
lecture?! me?!
since when :)
 
jrg
@BadLearner alright. You should have something that looks like the above screenshot.
hehe.
 
3:47 PM
yeah
 
just sayin... this is why monitoring is important ;)
learn from MY mistakes
 
how do I monitor?
 
nagios, amazon cloudwatch, cpanel has some addons
 
@jrg - This is to set gnome as default: $ sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s gnome-shell
Do you know what command I should use to set Unity as default?
 
jrg
@lazyPower dang, you went up and over the charts.
@BadLearner ohh... you set it that way.
no idea how to help you there, unfortunately. :(
 
3:52 PM
yeah, i'm kinda awesome like that
 
np
restarting my PC
 
jrg
lesson learned: don't try to run software designed for ubuntu on a fedora box. :P (learn from my mistake)
 
@jrg: yay! Restarted my PC and it's working!
 
jrg
@BadLearner glad you got it working :)
no idea why it wasn't earlier though...
 
It probably needed a sys restart. Anyway, is this how Gnome folder icons look? img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/11/32510553123-orig.jpg
They're kinda primitive
 
jrg
3:56 PM
yup, that's them
 
Hello all!
 
jrg
@AmithKK hello
 
Thanks a lot for all the help @jrg. Have a great day!
and tc
 
jrg
you're welcome @BadLearner, any time. :)
 
@jrg you like cycling dont you?
 
jrg
3:58 PM
yup
 
@jrg You're a cycler too?
 
You cycle at night?
 
jrg
@AmithKK occasionally.
@MarcoCeppi for me, my bike gets me from home, to the library, to scouts. :P
so, yes, but not as crazy as you. :P
 
jrg
for me, my bike is the same as many peoples cars - it's a method of transportation.
 
4:00 PM
@jrg When is your bday?
 
@MarcoCeppi are you a cycler too?
 
jrg
@AmithKK in june....
 
my bikes are my life ;)
4
 
Ok, I dont cycle: Im banned
@jrg Hey! Your a Gemini like me! Awesome!
 
@Alvar Yeah, I used to be quite an avid cyclist, I'm just now getting back into it
 
jrg
4:01 PM
@Alvar amen.
@AmithKK :D
 
I have 3 bikes, one mtb merida, one peak on road (to school) and one old steel racer! :D
my peak was stolen like 6 weeks ago, I got it back 2 weeks ago
 
I've got a Carbon Fiber Trek 5500 and a Fuji Newest 3.0
 
@MarcoCeppi Whoa!
 
I was just going to fix new brake pads, I ended up taking the whole brake apart!
@MarcoCeppi I have a steel racer from like 1980
it's really cool :)
I was up in 50km/h in it :)
 
jrg
4:04 PM
Marco needs one of those. :D
 
@jrg Yes, yes he does!
 
@jrg When I drop some weight I'll be getting that and the bib they have :D
 
 
jrg
@MarcoCeppi :D
 
@MarcoCeppi :D
 
4:04 PM
I have style at least :P
 
@AmithKK I believe it, I've been up to 34 MPH on my Trek :)
 
@MarcoCeppi Cool!
 
jrg
Yeah, on my crappy bike i've been up to ~25. :)
ok, why do we have CAPS LOCKS?!
 
@MarcoCeppi it has 12 gears and they aren't on the handlebars...
 
jrg
why can't it be remapped to esc by default..? :P
 
4:06 PM
@jrg to be able to shout at people for being stupid! ;)
 
jrg
</end-rant>
 
@Alvar Same with my trek, they're on the downtube, right?
 
@MarcoCeppi yeah,
 
jrg
@Alvar THAT IS A STUPID ANSWER TO AN EVEN MORE STUPID QUESITON, OK?! ;P
 
OK!
 
4:06 PM
@MarcoCeppi you can see it on the picture
 
jrg
nice.
@AmithKK it was a joke...
 
@MarcoCeppi whoa!
 
I love these compared to the ones on the bars, you can fine-tune it better for when you're really grinding
 
Ah, now to prove that awesome geeks can have awesome bikes to my friend.
 
4:07 PM
@MarcoCeppi yeah so when you take a corner at 30kph and need to change gear it's jsut crazy! :D
 
jrg
yeah.
 
@MarcoCeppi yeah they don't click so it's more of a feeling than jsut clicking :)
 
and you don't get problems with the gear being between gears and jumping
 
@MarcoCeppi I approve! :D
 
4:08 PM
@MarcoCeppi that's my new homepage starting now
 
@Alvar That's what I like about 'em :)
 
jrg
thanks for that link @MarcoCeppi. never knew about that site
 
@MarcoCeppi at first it's really hard but after like 50 kilometers it's jsut the best! :D
 
+1
 
@MarcoCeppi I miss the summer now...
 
4:10 PM
I just started winter training :)
 
@jrg yes it does!
For a few years now actually :)
 
jrg
@RolandTaylor wait what?
 
We're lagging behind
 
0
Q: How well does the built-in GPU in a Intel Core i5 2500K support unity?

Amith KKHow well does the built-in GPU in a Intel Core i5 2500K support unity? Will I need a discreet graphics to run it?

 
marco.ceppi(1);
 
4:11 PM
@MarcoCeppi aaah...
 
@MarcoCeppi How often do you bike in a week?
 
now, to get a good answer
 
jrg
@AmithKK get on IRC please.
 
@MarcoCeppi I have my peak to go from/to school and I am at taking it slow, but it's downhill so....
@MarcoCeppi 3.5km with stoplights and all that takes 15 minutes slow and 8:47 fast ;)
 
We have a bike path here
 
jrg
4:13 PM
i'm jealous marco. bike path. :(
 
so on a good day I can make it into DC in 45 minutes (~13mi)
 
@marcoCeppi the cool thing with steel bikes is also that they aren't as firm as a aluminum bike is, so when you go fast and look down (which you do) you see the fork swinging around it's awesome! and totally scary! :D
 
@MarcoCeppi WHAT?
 
@MarcoCeppi 13mi is 16KM?
@MarcoCeppi that's OK
 
jrg
not bad.
 
4:15 PM
Hills, we have a lot of them :)
 
@MarcoCeppi I did the same on my peak about 50 minutes 16KM
@MarcoCeppi I had hills and opposite wind ;)
everything I touch today get 2 stars! very strange....
 
So, for me I need the light but rigid double tubed aluminum to have enough weight to carry me down, but light enough to huff back up the hill
 
I must have a stalker...
 
puts away the telescope
 
@MarcoCeppi OR you buy a heavy bike and get really fit! ;)
 
4:16 PM
A stalker?
 
@RolandTaylor perhaps you! ;)
 
@lazyPower I used to do 50 hours a week
now it's down to 10
 
@Alvar who me?
Nevah!
 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/81404/upgraded-to-the-latest-available-kernel-through-update-manager-messed-up-a-lot
here
 
@MarcoCeppi man, you remember our huge spike at release?
gaming just crushed us
 
4:17 PM
@JorgeCastro Because they've got Chaos working overtime :D
 
We need to get back on the ball
 
@JorgeCastro Oblivion released a week ago or so..
 
jrg
they be cheating. :P
 
@MarcoCeppi my point :P
 
4:18 PM
They've been doing a lot of PR
 
jrg
THEY BE CHEATIN'!
gaming crushed server fault...
 
:) It's like being mentioned in the installer, only on a larger scale
 
sort by traffic
 
4:19 PM
they were like, 25k or something like how we were before release
and then just crushed it
 
yeah, I have some friends who still haven't finished it, because they are still home from school! skyyyyyyyyyyyyyrim must die...
 
jrg
I've said it once, and i'll say it again. THEY BE A-CHEATIN'!! :P
 
good for them, that's an impressive jump
 
lol
 
the question volume doesn't seem as big as ours was a few weeks ago
 
4:21 PM
hax.... pure hax
 
I hope they can retain some of that after the peak
 
well, even when our spikes were smaller it led to larger return volume overall
 
internet is acting funky
 
I hope they settle around our level
I like to use them for comparison wrt our own growth
 
and now we don't talk about bikes anymore :P ha!
later all! :)
or as @stefanopalazzo would have done (:
 
4:31 PM
@MarcoCeppi i need to follow your lead and get proactive bout my health
 
load what stands that for ?
 
4:47 PM
i had 3.45 xD
 
:)... another downvote, that could have been resolved by an edit :)
 
haha
 
BBT
 
bye amith
 
jrg
blergh.
 
4:49 PM
@RolandTaylor Sorry. I am addicted to down voting these days
Until my edit suggestions get rejected, I am not going to change.
I am getting too much free rep.
 
jrg
@jokerdino it's not free rep.
you earned every single +2 you get for an edit
 
jrg
interesting, he just went with the system ruby for puppet.
 
@jrg I regard them as free. :P
 
I should have made a video for the minecraft one
 
4:54 PM
it's not too late!
Mark just randomly replies to my mail last night
"oh we should have webinars for charm school"
I'm like, thanks, not enough to do!
 
jrg
just asked a question in #juju - pretty sure it's a stupid question. :P
 
@MarcoCeppi minecraft what?
 
jrg
@JorgeCastro lol. i'd attend.
 
My first real answer in ages!!
 
56 seconds ago
 
4:58 PM
1
A: How to use the Nautilus search option

Octavian DamieanSounds like a job for gnome-search-tool. It can perform partial matches on the file name and can perform a search on more options: File content Modification date Size File emptiness Owner/Group Name pattern exclusion Name regular expression match Hidden and backup files It can also: Fol...

 
wow I got an upvote :D :P
 
jrg
awesome answer. :D
 
It has a screenshot! :D
 
we're sucking at screenshots lately
 
jrg
IT HAS A HUGE LOVELY SCREENSHOT! :D
3
 
4:59 PM
I like screenshots.
 
@JorgeCastro I have a ton of screenshots :P like 4 in one answer! :P
 
Am I disconnected?
 
yep ;)
 
Thanks for the feedback :D
 
jrg
dupe
0
Q: How can I change the background color of the unity launcher?

tamaleI really dislike the slight dark-purple tint to the side-launcher bar and shell surrounding the menu after pressing the meta key. How can I set this to another color?

 
5:10 PM
has anyone here ever done a preseed?
 
o.O
what context?
 
jrg
@StefanoPalazzo I take it you mean in the startup funding context? :P
 
heh, no I'm talking about unattended ubuntu installations ;-)
 
jrg
oh.
Nope.
 
I don't suppose anyone is around to give a bit of guidance quickly? I am having a weird issue with SSH :/
 
jrg
5:13 PM
@WilliamHilsum ask, i'm currently reading ssh manpages like a boss for something else.
 
@jrg Lol, well - Second full day of using Ubuntu (Yay me!) and this is really getting on my nerves.... (second day of only server edition/just command line... learning on the job/fast)
 
jrg
@WilliamHilsum ok, so you're a new ubuntu user yay. what's the ssh problem? :)
 
(sorry, its a weird one, typing it up now!)
 
jrg
heh, ok. :)
 
ok... Basically, I have a test ESX box which has two copies of Ubuntu Server running, I am SSH'ed to the second box fine, and not had any issue... the first box however, after a random period just drops my connection, and, if I try to open putty again, it gives me a warning about the SSH key has changed/it is dangerous - and, my password just gives "access denied"... However, I can ssh from box 2 to box1, then, restart ssh, and, if I use putty, it warns me that the key has changed again, but
lets me log on... until the next time it happens
I know where my limits are, and, I am trying to learn Linux at the moment, but, this doesn't seem like it is my fault/anything I have done and it has really confused me
 
5:17 PM
Now that sounds strange!
 
jrg
yeah, that's... strange.
is there a firewall or proxy that could be screwing with it?
 
Again, I know I am not a Linux expert (look at my Superuser profile if you don't know me)... but, when trying to learn something, it is annoying when things like this happen - but, I am certain it isn't anything I am doing...
 
jrg
its not something you're doing.
 
@jrg There is a firewall, but, my IP (the office) is white listed... the esx box is a staging server in a data center.
and, as far as I know, it has the same rules as the other ubuntu server - which is working perfectly
 
I need someone who knows how to GIMP to take the existing juju ad on AU and make a "attend charm school" ad-like thing for next week's charm school
 
5:21 PM
@jrg Thanks!
 
jrg
@WilliamHilsum :S hm....
this is beyond me.
 
Hi! I am new to here.. which protocol this application is using ( irc?)
 
@jrg The staging is server is highly restricted to block everything other than the office IP, so, if it was the rule (AFAIK) nothing - esx, ubuntu 2 e.t.c would work if it was that
@DevC It is a custom built chat program by the Stack Exchange team
 
jrg
i suggest asking on the site.... unfortunately that's the only way I can help you. :(
 
I can help with an upvote
that's all I got today
 
5:24 PM
@jrg no problem, will do - thanks... for some reason, I feel more hesitant about posting here than I did on the Apple SE page!
 
jrg
@WilliamHilsum heh. we don't bite. much ;)
 
lol...
 
You got 11 more votes @JorgeCastro
Or not?
Hey @GeorgeEdison
 
Hello.
 
My Internet connection is very unstable today :(
 
5:40 PM
Is there a tag available for gnome-session-fallback in 11.10?
 
Can you answer this? How do I install dockbarx? http://askubuntu.com/questions/81685/how-do-i-install-dockbarx #installation
 
Hell yea!
Second answer! :D
No screenshot there but still an answer.
 
1
Q: Ubuntu server is dropping SSH connections, then not allowing me to log back on

wilhilI have an ESX box which I have loaded with two Ubuntu Server machines. During setup, I chose no additional packages to install as I just wanted a lightweight machine for testing. The first thing I did was change the root password via sudo passwd After ESX got on my nerves through lag, I decide...

sorry @OctavianDamiean @jrg - would have posted sooner, but, chat wouldn't allow me in :/
Anyway... Thanks for the help guys - Going home... fun day planned tomorrow with Ubuntu! I may be asking quite a few questions!
 
5:57 PM
yargh
who is good at the gimp?
 
This is a job for teh Inkscape. :)
 
OHRLY?
ok I will try that
 
I guess I already asked you if there is a juju svg logo file available right?
 

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