Game Development

Sie

7:02 PM

Job hunting is depressing.

Feels like I'm just throwing my resume in a black hole and hoping something comes back.

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Jon

:(

what are you looking for? coding?

Sie

Anything really. Around here it is basically retail, or construction as far as entry level stuff goes.

My town is a place that other people go through to get somewhere else lol.

Nobody comes here for the sake of coming here unless it is family or something like that.

Jon

yeah

same with where I am -- great place to come to retire

Sie

Ya... not so much for anyone looking to grow a career lol. Right now I'm in a paralegal progam but I'm not even sure if I want to do that. Even if I did want to get into programming (eh...) in game dev there are literally only 4 places around here. One of them is defunct (bought out by EA I think), and the others are either too far or dodgy looking.

Jon

housing is relatively cheap

you could sell your house in Montreal, and move in a mansion here with the money

Sie

7:08 PM

The area around us is nice but the area I live in is not that great. Bunch of crack heads and good old boys.

Yesterday the crackhead across from me had 5 (probably more) drop offs that I saw anyway when I was out painting the house.

Jon

geeze i'm in a good neighbourhood

Sie

There is a silver lining though. The police presence is increasing and cracking down on the junkies/dealers. I have a feeling that some developer wants to buy up some areas and build some copy/paste houses.

Shotgun Ninja

yo

Jon

when I got to high school, it was overrun by drug dealers

the next year, the had a new principle -- he installed cameras everywhere

starting cracking down. by the time I graduated, there was literally no drug dealers left

Sie

Then you have the morons building on top of swamp land (and mangroves) complaining about the smell. Better yet you have the same ones 20 years later wondering why their house has a sinkhole. Maybe because you built it on top of mud? Idiots.

Shotgun Ninja

7:11 PM

Tell me about that.... I live in Milwaukee, the whole city is a swamp

Jon

Wow I live in a swamp too

Shotgun Ninja

Buried under tons and tons of concrete

Most major cities are swamps

because they were built when rivers were the best way to transport materials

Chicago, NYC, and LA are all former swampland

Mexico City is too

Montreal is a river basin

Sie

If you drive along the cost you can see quite a few empty McMansions.

Left over from the housing bubble I guess.

Shotgun Ninja

Toronto is on the Great Lakes chain at Niagara Falls

Jon

i'm near the fundy coastline

Shotgun Ninja

7:13 PM

Where are you again, @Sie and @Jon?

Sie

I'm in Florida.

Jon

i biked this path a few times

brutal on bike

but you can stop a lot

and the views are mental

Sie

Game designer sounds like a job I'd like but even then the only way I can probably get my foot in the door is as a programmer.

Jon

yeah...

game designer, is not really a role they just give out to just anyone

Sie

Ya. Either exceptional resume or they want you to wear both hats.

Even the first they'd probably want you to wear more than one hat.

Jon

7:21 PM

don't do what you like, like what you do.

lol

a job pays the bills

if my hobby can pay bills, that is awesome

Shotgun Ninja

7:32 PM

My job = JS app dev

My hobby = Unity game programming

Jon

my job = C# web dev

my hobby = selling drugs

my passion = gamedev

Shotgun Ninja

The worse part is, selling drugs probably supplements your income quite a bit better than my total income from app dev

Jon

lol, honestly though, my gamedev hobby is somewhat a job now

selling drugs is my main source of income

Shotgun Ninja

I'm at $71k/year

Jon

if it wasn't for drug laws i'd be struggling

Shotgun Ninja

7:38 PM

lol right

War on Drugs my ass

Jon

71k/year is decent

i want to make 250k/year -- until then i'm kinda annoyed

Shotgun Ninja

my fiancee doesn't work

so that 71k has to support two twentysomethings completely

including student loan debt

Sie

Steve Jobs Tribute T Shirt | Ashens

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Jon

yeah, i support a kid and ex wife

plus my girlfriend doesn't make much

so i need more income

Shotgun Ninja

sounds like a fun life situation

Sie

7:40 PM

No offense to any fathers in here but I never intend on having kids.

Jon

i'm supporting a lot of people -- my ex wife also has another kid now

Sie

At least not on purpose.

Shotgun Ninja

Sounds like a win-win

Jon

do what you want dude, its your life

Shotgun Ninja

Paying for someone else's kid?

Sie

7:41 PM

^

Jon

naw

Shotgun Ninja

Yours?

Jon

no, lol

i pay her to raise my other one though

Shotgun Ninja

Then why the fuck are you paying for that shit

ah

Jon

i have him 50/50

Shotgun Ninja

7:41 PM

yeah I suppose

Jon

but I have to pay her

its the law

Shotgun Ninja

Yep...

Could you fight for primary custody?

Sie

Does the kid that stays with you get jealous? That sounds like a hard situation all around.

Jon

lol, i wouldn't

take his mom away that is kinda sick

Shotgun Ninja

Agreed

More thought than I'd give it

but I'm not in that situation myself

Jon

7:42 PM

however, you are right

the current system kind of encourages that behaviour

don't want to give her money, get full custody.

Sie

I don't know. Depends on the reason. My cousins ex girl friend was a junkie and over all a monster. I wouldn't wish that mother on his kids.

Shotgun Ninja

Now, my fiancee has anxiety issues, and can't drive a car

but aside from that, she's loyal and dedicated to me and our future children

I support her for now because I know she's going to be a great mom in the future, and I want to raise kids with her.

Having to help raise my baby half-sister since I was 11 years old was a big influence on me.

Jon

ah, well i got a harsh divorce at first, she cheated on me and left me and then took half of everything i built

Shotgun Ninja

Yikes

Jon

i moved out of this house and waited out the seperation

then she wanted to sell the house so I bought it from her

best fucken decision I have ever made in my entir elife

Shotgun Ninja

7:45 PM

lol

Pip

lol

Shotgun Ninja

there's something amazingly vindictive about that

and I love it

I think that's something that games don't explore enough

Jon

she said I couldn't afford it too, haha

i managed to remortgage at a very attractive rate and price

Sie

Well I guess you both won... kind of?

Not really...

Shotgun Ninja

Like, most game narratives don't have the time or the craft to really explore vindication

Jon

7:46 PM

40K under house value

Shotgun Ninja

which is something the devil in me would adore

Jon

so, even if I couldn't afford it i was sitting on min 30K

that was like 4 years ago

anyways -- if you ever get in a position where you are being divorced or whatnot

You do not leave the house

Very important that you continue to live in the house no matter how much hell it is

Because if you leave -- she is entitled to clean the house out and keep everything in it.

I'm fucken serious

Shotgun Ninja

Yep

I plan on never getting divorced so yeah

I'm trapping my fiancee by making her dependent on me, then building her confidence in a controlled way so she feels indebted to me

5

Actually not really, I'm just doing what seems right in a relationship and stuff.

Jon

LMAO

I told my gf the air outside is toxic, and put a special mask on everytime I go out

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Shotgun Ninja

WAT

Jon

7:52 PM

Yeah, I have seran wrap on every window and door

Sie

@Jon That is ripped straight from Rick and Morty you slut.

Jon

hahahaha, she's stuck here now

is it really? I don't remember that one @Sie

who's your fav char?

Sie

Ya. That episode where Morty screws the sex bot and has a kid.

Jon

oh yeah hahahahaha, he comes down, chugs a glass of orange juice, and says "AHHHHH! Welpl, i'm gonna go back in my room, to errr, ahh.... play"

And his parents say something like "Gross"

Pip

Jon

7:56 PM

Family talk about Morty's sex robot Rick and Morty

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Pip

finally getting somewhere

I'm trying to entirely procedurally generate a background for my main menu

And no, the stars will not be green eventually

Jon

ahhh, i just did that

Pip

That's just the color that the magic wand tool picked out of the noise when I clicked randomly

:P

Jon

no im' serious

you should just do something similar with a spacey theme

it would be really cool, have a few different layers

Man I bet your game is gonna be kick ass

buckle down and get er done

Pip

Noooooow I'm getting somewhere

I need to play with making the stars more differently colored, it's really subtle right now

Jon

8:00 PM

niiiiice

here is a realllly cool trick for starscapes, ok

have smaller and larger stars.. but the larger stars you expand more on the x-y axis explicitely

like a + sign

But then you give stars a temperature -- there are blue stars to red

Pip

Oh yeah true

Jon

no purple and green, personally I think purple and green are for nebulas and such

Pip

Yeah I definitely need some size variation

Jon

yeah definitely

that second one is way better too

have nebulas just float in front

like 2 or 3 layers of nebulas

Pip

yeah I'll be adding another few cloudy layers and some random extra stars

Jon

8:04 PM

and then have the stars in multiple layers as well

Pip

(that tool looks amazingly messy)

Jon

yeah maybe make them smaller not larger

Pip

This image is just a static once-off menu background

Jon

but if you had 3 layer of stars.... small/medium/large for example

parallax that slowly

mama mia

Pip

True dat

I'll put a better background on my todo list

Jon

8:06 PM

so what kind of game is it goinng to be?

make the ships have friction please.

Pip

dude this isn't even for a space game believe it or not

Jon

go on.

Leggy7

it is something with peter pan?

oh nvm

Pip

I'm making basically a rpg/roguelike

Jon

tone down the gases wayyy down

Pip

8:12 PM

yeah I will

stars better though?

Jon

yreah muchbetter

Leggy7

actually it depends on the game atmosphere

Pip

Leggy7

if you wanna transmit more of a suspence feeling gases will be fine

Pip

oh man this is looking really good

Jon

8:13 PM

yeah that is the best one up to now

Leggy7

very ggood

Pip

I actually have no idea how I managed to make the stars a bunch of different colors like that

but it's fuckin' awesome

Any more ideas on how to improve this?

Leggy7

shoulda know more on your idea

like thestarboun main menù is one of the most beautiful ever

it has some content that relate with the game idea

Pip

Gotchu

Leggy7

(and an orgasmic soundtrack)

Jon

8:15 PM

yeah put different star type

Pip

I actually have a person lined up to do an OST for me

Jon

a + style star

Pip

+ style?

Jon

not big like that

but stars like that

make them rare

Pip

Idk those don't look great in my opinion

But I do need more of a focus

Leggy7

8:17 PM

I like your actual more

but as I said before, would be fine to display something related to your game

for example in bottom right corner an artwork of you main character looking to the infinite

or a logo somewhere

Pip

Oh yeah this won't be it

hold on, lemme mock it up

@Leggy7 opinions?

Oh man that's so much better

Final version for now:

Jon

8:36 PM

you need to make your nebulas more like clumps

and not occupy the entire range

Pip

yeah true

idk it'll be more colorful eventually

Jon

or you dn't really need em

looks good

Pip

thanks man

appreciate it

I have zero skill at art usually, so something that looks remotely good doesn't happen very often

not that this looks amazing at this point

Jon

check this out for ideas

wwwtyro.github.io/procedural.js/space

i'm sure you can pull something like this off

the sun is completely unessessary

Pip

Agreed

Oh my god Unity UI is really bad

Jon

8:46 PM

yep, it kinda is.

Leggy7

@pip really need to separate top from bottom?

Pip

Probably not?

What would you recommend? The starscape is supposed to be viewed like an actual starscape

um one sec

Leggy7

I would have a single background with game logo on the top part and menù choices on the bottom, centered as your image displays

Pip

idk I might do that

Jon

so i have this star that is kinda messed up

Pip

8:55 PM

food for thought

@Jon ?

Jon

keep or not?

Pip

that's not too bad

achievable I think

Jon

it used to be a par 4

this effectively makes it a par 2

Pip

yeah

go ahead and make it par 2 to be honest

people will figure it out eventually

and if they don't make par, they don't make par

Anyway, I have to head to werk

latah

Leggy7

9:12 PM

OMG

I think I have coded every functionality in the game. Need to add variety now

like I have only one boss atm

only 6 weapons

only one special event

but I'm quite happy that the base mechanism works fine

Jon

pics?

Leggy7

I think a video would clearify the whole thing to the best

because the main feature of this game is its action

what do you recommand to record a good quality video? with low frame loss

a gif would look poor

Jon

camstudio?

fraps

Leggy7

han ok

Almo

9:34 PM

play HitBox on Kongregate. Very nice.

Manmohan Bishnoi

Heya awesome people :)

does anyone know how to fix the Z - translation in Mixamo animations?

the one's that are downloaded are kinda buggy for example: ladder climbing, ledge holding.

those have root bone lying at the ground

UnrealEngine4 loves root motion :)

Jon

never heard anyone here talk mixamo

user92578

@Leggy7 OBS or shadowplay if you have an nvidia gfx card

Jon

gfycat.com/ActualDrearyKitfox

Manmohan Bishnoi

we'll it's not strictly tied to mixamo

see skeleton has a hierarchy like Root->Hips->Spine...->finger

is there a way that i can edit translation values for Root bone and keep it's children Hips ..finger at same transforms?

i tried to do that but as obvious all childrens will be offset by same amount

Jon

9:42 PM

there should be a way to override root motions

there is in unity - i am pretty sure unreal has a similar option

Manmohan Bishnoi

so I run 2 loops
1. offset Root bone to maintain an offset from hips
2. offset Hips bone to maintain specific offset from root bone .. this will bring down model by the same amount that it went up due to translation in setp 1

yeah i can override root motions . . but there are a couple of animations that work really good with root motion

*stuff

also i have 2400+ animations downloaded from mixamo .. so was writing small piece of application that would automate this tuff

Jon

sounds like quite the endeavour

Manmohan Bishnoi

i am using FBX SDK 2017.1 (latest) to read . . manipulate . . export FBX files

yeah. . step 1 works as expected

but step 2 makes no affect on the file

i tired to run one step at a time. . exporting results of step 1 in an intermediate FBX file

but still step 2 won't make desired changes

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Q: Edit bone transforms for each key frame to fix mixamo animation

I have downloaded FBX animations from Mixamo.com for use in game. But seems like the "root" skeleton bone does not have translations in Z axis; which makes animations like climbing a ladder or ledge unusable in game engine. The animation file does not have any mesh data and has just one animati...

Autodesk's official forum is useless

hardly any posts are answered there

user92578

That level background conspiracy dude I talked about yesterday has no clue what he is doing, I'm guessing he hasnt written a single line of code ever

user92578

It's not that straight forward for me still. I know now that I am calling one static image but I do not know how to call different images with each level change. There is a gamelayer.java and a levelmap.java in which I feel like it can be done and maybe but I don't know where to put that code and which code to add. Game was made using cocos2d as there are files for it too. I've searched the internet but this is not so clearly explained or maybe I am just not getting it. I need more more guidance.... — Mohamed Aadhil 4 hours ago

user92578

9:54 PM

I wont be giving him more more guidance, as he just essentially seems to want me to implement the functionality in levelmap.java

Jon

lol, he hurt your feelings

@ManmohanBishnoi not sure what to tell you...

user92578

@Jon well not really, its just annoying that he wont admit that he doesnt know anything about programming

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