Game Development

Chris McFarland

12:00 AM

Thanks, hope you like it

Jon

Nice

Chris McFarland

I got the info boxes lined up all nice last night (made a small room for easy testing both doors)

need to make them open next
probably just go for what I did with the original, have the doors slide up, can always make other door types later
if it ain't broke, don't fix it or something

DH.

Get shit done first, fuck yeah!

Chris McFarland

12:16 AM

making a sequel almost feels like cheating lol

DH.

i.imgur.com/PAuxqhJ.png My steam sale losings

Chris McFarland

haha :)
I've heard LISA is pretty well-written

Disgaea is pretty cool for tactics gameplay (I got it for the PS3)

DH.

Yeah, people say that LISA has a really good history

And I always wanted to play Disgaea, because I'm a Final Fantasy Tactics fan, but never had the chance

TheMuffinCoder

My wallet is safe

Free Internet Points

12:37 AM

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Q: Input and output of a server side game using web sockets

I am having a look at redeveloping an old flash based top-down zombie shooter game I made in highschool so that it supports multiplayer using socket.io. My experience over the last 5 years has been mostly writing server-side code, so writing the game logic itself on the server isn't a huge concer...

Free Internet Points

12:48 AM

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Q: Gfx.WaitForPresent performance issue

I am making a 2D mobile game and it runs really well (60 fps) on my phone. However, in some cases the performance goes down drastically to the point where it runs at 20 fps or even less. It happens at random times so I can't pinpoint what is causing this. During the performance decrease Gfx.WaitF...

unity performance frame-rate profiler

Alexandre Vaillancourt

12:59 AM

@TheMuffinCoder You should add steampowered.com to your hosts file :P

TheMuffinCoder

>:) no thanks, steam has completely been purged from my pc

How strange... my resolytion is 1920x1200 yet Javascript is telling me the window size is 2162x956.

PearsonArtPhoto

1:59 AM

Darn, I can't get you to buy my game then when I finally release it...

TheMuffinCoder

lol I'll install steam just for you then :D

PearsonArtPhoto

LOL.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

2:13 AM

@TheMuffinCoder The hosts file controls to what ip addresses are resolved. If you tell it that steampowered.com should go to 127.0.0.1, you won't be able to go to the website :)

MickLH

also you could configure your webserver to respond on Host: steampowered.com and then replace it with a custom website reminding you to keep your wallet safe

Chris McFarland

or you could just succumb

developers need to eat

MickLH

^ who wants to bet the money goes to this guy

I'd like to bet on it, I need to eat too

Almo

@DH. i liked disgaea pretty well

only played the first much though

really did not like final fantasy tactics advance though

big-ass game design flaws in that one

Chris McFarland

@Almo What were the bad parts? I remember it being enjoyable, played that game so much

some dislike the judge rules

Almo

2:28 AM

encourged bad behavior

hitting thigns gave xp

so, to level, best thing was to find turtles (they only took one point of damage per hit) and beat on them to level

Chris McFarland

lol damn

Almo

yeah. pretty stupid

Disgaea, I didn't feel anything dorky like that in it.

maybe I missed it, but on the whole it just seemed a better game

another thing I like about Disgaea... NO WANDERING

menus to go to battles.

Chris McFarland

that game design element -- it's good and bad, or can go either way

real-world having to walk to a point to engage a thing
or just choose something from a list

Almo

Yeah, wandering in the world is more immersive

it just annoys me is all :)

Chris McFarland

but if you don't wanna wander, it feels annoying

or if you want to wander but they give you a menu instead

it's like quick travel

Almo

2:32 AM

hehe :)

Chris McFarland

like the Burnout series

Burnout Paradise (the latest one), you had to drive to places to activate modes

whereas previous Burnout games, you just chose from lists

Almo

yeah i hated that

i quit playing because of it

Chris McFarland

the driving to activate?

Almo

that was the whole OMG EVERY GAME MUST BE OPEN WORLD time

yeah

Chris McFarland

yea

Diablo III - the whole "adventure mode" thing that you can do after completing the main game - it's then just clicking "oh go here and start fighting"

I dunno

I like GTA's open world, quite happily drive from point to point, but that's cuz you can do whatever

Almo

2:36 AM

yeah, GTA doesn't appeal to me at all because of that :)

they did a nice job on the game though

good voice acting

etc

Chris McFarland

World of Warcraft, you used to have to go to the zone for the dungeon you wanted to get a group for, and you'd sit there forever trying to find a party lol, but then they added the auto group finder thing

Almo

that was a smart move

Chris McFarland

I feel most mobile RPG type games get it so wrong though, everything is a bloody menu now

quests, characters, shop, coins/gems, map -- here's a bunch of buttons, tap here to start fighting, wow good job 3 stars, back to the main menu you go

such a load of crap

and I swear they all come out of China lol

Almo

2:56 AM

ahah

mobile is some much of a cesspool

Chris McFarland

lol

Pip

@Almo Definitely a moral issue

I wouldn't give welfare to drug addicts either unless they were provably making progress against said addiction

Anyway, @ChrisMcFarland good luck on more Tallowmere sales during the sale

And I'm heading to bed, night

Chris McFarland

thank you. gnite

Pip

@MickLH I'm heading to bed, but would you mind trying hazarding a guess as to why github.com/WardBenjamin/Shift/blob/master/Demo/DemoGame.cs isn't working?

Night

Almo

3:43 AM

@Pip you're willing to spend 100 million dollars to not let $40k worth of welfarte money go to drugs? that's just stupid

"Florida was on pace to spend over $350,000 in just one year of the program to stop only 300 or so drug users from receiving government aid. If this program remained intact for only three years, Florida would have spent over a million dollars to stop less than 1,000 applicants."

I think my numbers are off, but it's pretty bad

Almo

4:08 AM

I recommend playing EVE-Online. It taught me that if someone steals 100k ISK from you, but you make 10 million in an hour, it doesn't matter. The % of what's stolen matters. If you consider welfare money spent on drugs a form of stealing (makes sense... money not going for what it was intended for) if the % is small enough, it's just not worth the hassle of keeping it from being stolen, even if it's wrong that it was stolen.

Uri Popov

7:53 AM

Guys check out my answer here : gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/124418/…

How can I improve it

Shaun Wild

Might be a bit much

I would have just said "Check if it's a weapon, if so cast to Weapon like so xxxx"

Uri Popov

casting like that is dumb

I added a solution with a virtual UseItem method

that he can override with specific implementations

also his GameItem Class should really be abstract

you will never have a case where you have just a gameitem in your inventory

Kevin van der Velden

@ShaunWild then just pass around plain objects, much more flexible!

user92578

8:08 AM

^

Kevin van der Velden

@Almo it's not just the % being stolen, it's basically "How much would recovering the money make me, compared to just doing what I normally do"

i.e. if I'd recover the 10.000 in 5 hours while I make 20.000 an hour it's very bad. But if it would take 10 minutes it'd be a good choice. And time = money of course

(Also another thing to take into account is "What would this action do to future thefts", i.e. getting the money back and punishing might deter thefts. If it's known that you don't care about little things more little thefts might take place)

Shaun Wild

Refactoring the base class is a good idea @UriPopov

Uri Popov

8:41 AM

ok guys I feel like I dont know how to actually program tutorials or reuse my code in them I just have a isTutorial flag that I use to add patches to my actual game code so that the tutorial flows the way I wan to. This seems like a bad idea. Any tips ?

Kevin van der Velden

I think that usually tutorials are just different levels being loaded

Uri Popov

I am making it a different level. But I'm reusing my normal code. Lets say in the tutorial I want the user to go left. But my normal code allows him to move in any direction. How do I handle that. With the flag or do I just create tutorial specific code.

Kevin van der Velden

Put a wall on the right side so they can't go right? =p

Uri Popov

great idea but doesnt work in my specific case. The movement was just a example :D

Shaun Wild

@UriPopov I've never implemented it myself, but mutators seem to be a viable option.

You could have a level and when you play that level the mutator pattern is set, which makes various tips and game elements change

Uri Popov

8:57 AM

that seems like a fancier way of doing the same thing the isTutorial flag does.

Kevin van der Velden

Well yes, you're doing the same thing. But having mutators/different components separate the tutorial logic from the regular logic

Leggy7

yo

Jon

Oy

user92578

ey

Uri Popov

Oy vey

Kevin van der Velden

9:13 AM

\o

William Mariager

Ug ...

Kevin van der Velden

Much ugh today

Chris McFarland

I've hardly done anything today

spent morning looking at the Steam sale
afternoon publishing an update for a customer

had a 2-hour nap

user92578

lol

Jon

Meh off days happen all the time you overachiever

Chris McFarland

9:20 AM

Yeah it happens, and it's okay

Jon

If it wasn't we would all be jailed

And more than likely molested as we are all beta males

Chris McFarland

Speak for yourself :p

Leggy7

hello guys

Chris McFarland

hello

Leggy7

lol chris, you go to bed and I begin my day :)

(well, actually is has already begun)

Chris McFarland

9:23 AM

I'm playing Dota 2 atm
probably be 3 hours til bedtime for me

Jon

Shit man I just woke up

Leggy7

arf arf

what time is it at yours, @jon?

Jon

I still have those eye boogers

6:30 am

Leggy7

orfl

where do you live? america? canada maybe?

Jon

Pen Island

Leggy7

9:25 AM

holy jesus

Jon

Lol

Leggy7

looks like a beautiful place

besides that if you google it results are for an island with a cock shape

Jon

Yeah it was a joke. Penis land

I live in Canada though

Kevin van der Velden

Dutch has an even better version of that

Leggy7

I never understood why the internet has joke on canadian people. why is that?

for what I see, it is just a place I'd like to live in

Kevin van der Velden

9:31 AM

@Leggy7 name one country about which people don't joke

I can't think of one

The dutch all wear clogs, belgium doesn't exist, brits are posh, canadian are apologetic, americans are gunwaving rednecks, etc

Leggy7

well, I mean those joke make me think that canadians are commonly thought as dumb ppl

Kevin van der Velden

Meh, pretty much every country has another country they think of as dumb (dutch jokes about belgium are that the belgians are all dumb)

Leggy7

yeah but I was wondering to know where the canadian joke began

han ok, some sort of rivalry born?

Jon

Newfoundland

All Canadian stereotypes come from Newfoundland

Kevin van der Velden

@Leggy7 well we used to be the same country soooooo

Leggy7

9:35 AM

indeed

Jon

9:54 AM

heh

this super hot girl added me on twitter, so I check out her profile of course

one pic of her apparent ass -- asking to chat, with a tinyurl link

oh well it is padding my followers at least

Darth_Wardy

that'll be Dave from India again, wanting to know if you need double glazing

Or maybe Mugambi from Kenya, if you give him a few thousand pounds he promises to make you a millionaire, because lets face it we all have relatives in Africa right?

Kevin van der Velden

Meh he wouldn't take pounds*

Pounds are going down the drain =p

Jon

so UK quit europe

Kevin van der Velden

Well not quite, they've agreed to at some point in the future start the process to determine how they leave the EU

user92578

well yeah, but now all their problems are solved, so a nice trade imho :D

Jon

9:59 AM

i'm just waiting for the canada/american union to be in talks

MURICA NEEDS YOU!

This is fuckenfunny

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Q: Calculate the displacement of device in unity

I'm making a 3D game in unity where the object should move forward and backward as the android device moves/accelerates in the Z axes. ie. When the player moves the devise in the direction of the +ve Z axis, the object should move forward, and when the player moves the devise in the direction of ...

c# unity5 accelerometer

user92578

why?

Shaun Wild

@Jon Hahahaha I just read it and though "Aww poor guy"

Jon

It is funny to me because he wrote upa ll this stuff, then the answer he gets is a one liner

Shaun Wild

Hahahaha Ikr

"Ur code is smart m8 but u can do accerate m8"

Uri Popov

typical overthinking it too much

Jon

10:06 AM

overANALyzer

Uri Popov

btw Happy Brexit

Jon

Man, there was this joke at the office between me and this girl, where we would say ANALyse instead of Analyse

Uri Popov

the damn brits better keep of my continent from now on

Jon

said it so often that I started saying it to other people by mistake

user92578

Jon

10:10 AM

its me mister meeseek

!

Leggy7

I can't see the time to have some feedback from you guys on the project I'm working on. still need some more dev time :\

Shaun Wild

@Jon Thank you

Leggy7

sometimes it is an heavy burden

Shaun Wild

Merry Brexit

@Leggy7 a*

Leggy7

@ShaunWild ?

Shaun Wild

10:19 AM

You said "an", but it should be "a"

Leggy7

ah ok, thank you

Shaun Wild

np :)

@Leggy7 As a rule of thumb, if the word you're saying starts with a vowel sound, then you should use an, otherwise use a.

Leggy7

yeah, I do remember. the problem is in my pronuntiation. I don't alway pronounce heavy with the H

shoula just practice more or deal with it :)

Shaun Wild

You mean without the H ?

Leggy7

it is the same, @ShaunWild

Shaun Wild

10:30 AM

You could say "It is an 'eavy burden" haha

Leggy7

sometimes I do, sometimes I don't

and when in my brain I spell it without the H I say an

or just make random confusion :)

ahahah

Shaun Wild

Damnit why do people keep removing messages

Leggy7

beacuse they speak porn

Shaun Wild

Did you see what he said?

Leggy7

a lot of dirty stuff

Shaun Wild

10:34 AM

Hahaha

That was just innapropriate.

Leggy7

again, I saw you

Jon

lol whats up with blue

i fixed this 2 month old bug at work yesterday

DH.

I already fixed a year old bug

Jon

turns out the tester didn't properly explain the bug

i worked on a bug for 3 months

the same one

I suggested they redo the whole thing

Chris McFarland

;(

Jon

10:41 AM

well they did, lol

They had to

Shaun Wild

I love redoing everything

and btw Leggy

Chris McFarland

lol

Jon

nice password

Chris McFarland

I should do some coding before bed

Jon

we had a scheduled meeting in this very small room with about 8 people - so my coworker was like, man there is gonna be a lot of people in there.

So we start walking to this room right -- my manager walking with us says "Its gonna be tight in there" .. I immediately point to my coworker and say "Thats what she said"

Un-intentional thats what she said joke happens.. manager just turns around and ignores it

Shaun Wild

10:45 AM

Wow

When is the next ludum dare?

Ld website is blocked for me.

Definitely taking part in the next one.

Jon

plenty of time

end of august

Shaun Wild

omg that's ages away

I came 1000th place in the last I entered

I'm quite proud

Jon

out of 1001?

Shaun Wild

1000/2200 entries, means I'm in the upper 50% hahah

Jon

not bad

it helps if you have a large social media circle

Shaun Wild

10:49 AM

Yep :/

I hate how biased it is.

Chris McFarland

where is the secret "make everything happen immediately" button? ;(

Kevin van der Velden

Hidden behind the "explode everything" lever

Chris McFarland

>_<

damn that lever

time to make an enum

DoorState

Closed, Opening, Open

user92578

lol I just use two booleans

Chris McFarland

11:06 AM

I use to use booleans a lot but I use enums more these days, less confusing later on

user92578

yeah true

user92578

I just got my brother to play with me for a while

Chris McFarland

Cool

user92578

So I have some footage of the multiplayer mode

Jon

wouldn't you need a "Closing" state too

you don't close doors in your game? what about drafts?

Chris McFarland

11:09 AM

I didn't in the original, but I've just added a Closing thing too cuz I might use it this time

public enum DoorState : byte {
		Closed = 0,
		Opening = 1,
		Open = 2,
		Closing = 3
	}

	public class Door : MonoBehaviour {

		[Header("Door"]
		public DoorState state;
		public Timer timer = new Timer();
		public GameObject spriteObject;
		public Vector3 closedPosition;
		public Vector3 openPosition;

		public void Open () {
			state = DoorState.Opening;
			timer.SetNewDuration(1f);
			this.enabled = true;
		}

		public void Close () {
			state = DoorState.Closing;
			timer.SetNewDuration(1f);

Shaun Wild

@Tyyppi_77 Do you have your own multiplayer implementation?

Jon

He sure does

Chris McFarland

was thinking of Zelda and Binding of Isaac how you enter a room and the door closes behind you until you clear the room

which is good and bad... very hard :) no escape!

Jon

I'm not a fan of doors shutting behind me... usually indicates a boss

user92578

@ShaunWild well yeah I mean I have local coop in the game

Shaun Wild

11:10 AM

udp or tcp

Jon

UDP for life

user92578

thanks for reading

Chris McFarland

couch co-op

Shaun Wild

ooh

local means local network to me :P

Jon

the problem with that is the other player can punch you

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Chris McFarland

11:11 AM

yeah, that's why I use "network multiplayer" or "couch" to help clarify

user92578

i just really dont see why someone would implement lan coop to a game

Chris McFarland

customers get so confused otherwise

Shaun Wild

well done @Jon i starred that

user92578

I'll try to use couch in the future

Chris McFarland

@Tyyppi_77 for when you're bad at compensating for Internet lag lol

Shaun Wild

11:12 AM

lan coop is the same as network coop

the code is the same

user92578

i know

Shaun Wild

So you kind of implement both whether you like it or not

user92578

that's why limiting to lan sounds stupid to me

Shaun Wild

Who said that

user92578

hence why would anyone describe their multiplayer as "local"

Shaun Wild

11:13 AM

Someone tell him to stop being salty..

user92578

I'm not salty, not one bit

Shaun Wild

you are a whole byte of salty.

Jon

cracker salty top

user92578

I just think saying "local multiplayer" and interpreting that as "LAN multiplayer" doesn't make sense in 99% of the cases

Uri Popov

well in my game we have a 4 player hotseat mode. You cant get more local than that

Shaun Wild

11:14 AM

haha

well technically they could be different

you don't really need to compensate for lag on lan

local coop = no lag comp

Uri Popov

@Tyyppi_77 do you even know what LAN means ?

Kevin van der Velden

No, local coop is couch coop

Chris McFarland

the real icing on the cake is couch co-op and network co-op simultaneous

Kevin van der Velden

That's just what the word means

user92578

@UriPopov some kind of cake, right?

Shaun Wild

11:15 AM

@ChrisMcFarland Brawlhalla

Kevin van der Velden

@ChrisMcFarland 4 players on 2 machines

user92578

@KevinvanderVelden YES. THIS

Uri Popov

yes Local Area network cake

Jon

Black Bush | Chappelle's Show

►

Uri Popov

so Lan has local in it therefore calling LAN multi local multi is fine in my book

Chris McFarland

11:16 AM

if I see a game that has "Multiplayer" I assume it means competitive network play

Kevin van der Velden

@UriPopov No.

Because that is not how that word is used

Words aren't defined by words that are close to it or acronyms that share bits, they're defined by how they are used

Shaun Wild

@KevinvanderVelden Let the man call it what he wants

Kevin van der Velden

Well blurp you too

I mean blurp is a good word in my book, why aren't you understanding me?

Jon

understand me when I say, shut up

Shaun Wild

Hahha @Jon you make me laugh

Uri Popov

11:18 AM

@KevinvanderVelden simply because you have yet to define a meaning of blurp that we all agree on and we can start using

Thats how language is formed

tell us what you think blurp should mean. If we agree

Jon

its a bloody burp

Uri Popov

we all can start blurping

bloody as in blood actually comes out when you burp

Jon

to get pulled over by the police. comes from the sound the police sirens make ("BLURP!")

Chris McFarland

urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blurp

@Jon yeah that is super lame

Uri Popov

or if we take the english meaning it could mean a really good burp.

Jon

11:19 AM

yeah, bloody burp is way better

its like, forcing out a burp so hard, blood comes out of your mouth

Uri Popov

Yeah ok I agree with @Jon on this one. So I hope I never do a blurp

Chris McFarland

The second definition... lol

Jon

oh gross

Chris McFarland

yeah it's super lovely

Jon

Blurp
A fat person who enjoys McDonald's

I like this one

Uri Popov

11:21 AM

voting to change that one to the case specific McBlurp

Jon

Although the more you think about it, the worse it is

Uri Popov

Am sad that my answer is getting 0 attention. I was really hoping to hit 1k rep with it

Jon

link it you blurp

Uri Popov

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A: Can't access properties of a class

The thing is that with your list you dont know if the element is a weapon or a apple. It's just a GameItem. To be able to use the weapon specific properties you need to retrieve the element and cast it back to a Weapon. For example the update in inventory manager will look like this. void Upda...