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MLM
12:08 AM
@Noctrine There seems to be a cross post of that unit selection question. On GDSE and on StackOverflow
 
So lets snatch the answer from the jaws of Stackoverflow
and I'll get it merged over :p
 
MLM
Can I flag first?
 
On SO? Go for it
 
MLM
How do i flag duplicate on another site?
 
Moderator Attention
 
MLM
12:10 AM
done, Thanks
Still trying to figure out how to accomplish the effect btw
 
@JoshPetrie Those are brilliant.
 
user4704
hehe
 
user4704
@MLM I hate that shit.
 
user4704
I guess if I close it they can't migrate it though :\
 
user4704
Grr.
 
1:13 AM
I posted this earlier, don't know if anyone saw it. Testing out a render for AR glasses. Interesting how the lens actually focuses the light so its no longer blurry
 
MLM
@AttackingHobo I saw it ;)
 
1:34 AM
@MLM I just tried out another optical effect and it works the same as in real life. awesome
 
Unity 4.6 beta available: http://unity3d.com/unity/beta/4.6
dat new UI system
 
MLM
Web stack UI master race :)
 
:P
good timing too, should speed up my chatroom/gamebrowser development
 
MLM
I linked the Unite keynote earlier but no one really seemed interested.
Unity cloud for builds. Video compositing stuff. Awesome lighting without baking. I missed some of it though because of lunch
 
Oooooo
 
1:48 AM
@MLM its not like that video could be scrubbed back to any point whenever you felt like it.
 
MLM
@AttackingHobo Yes it is archived... youtube.com/watch?v=5RZBxGexCuk but I haven't watched it yet
 
2:10 AM
whoa, Unity got a new website, and it's horrible
their old site was 100x better
old site was like "I'm sleek and professional and awesome" and the new site is like "I want to follow fads but have no idea how"
 
user4704
WHoa
 
looks like they're releasing the source for some things, though, so that's cool
 
Hello every 1
 
MLM
2:27 AM
I like the new Unity site and I feel it is a nice improvement. The font choices are a step up from before which I think was just Arial
 
man, automatic 9-square sprite splicing for buttons (so you can create a single button sprite with a border, and have the centre of the texture stretch but not the borders).
radial fills (like for WoW button cooldown timer effects).
proper tiling
hi stizzle
even proper button navigation handling for keyboard/gamepad input out of the box
 
They pick any 1 as modles these days
 
create a button, and using the Unity inspector, click on an object and function to pass in an argument, right from the editor
less typing ftw
multi-line text wrapping
unity's old UI stuff was so crap lol
 
MLM
@Chris Text wrapping was a thing before. Set wordWrap on the GUIStyle
 
I never used the OnGUI stuff, only GUITexture and GUIText elements
not being able to click on what I was creating was a giant turn-off
 
MLM
2:39 AM
I have been using it for an Editor Window Extension, never for Game UI
 
Hi all!
Had to come back right after the chat war
 
@PsychOPhobiA pong?
 
Working on it man. Don't worry about me.
 
2:58 AM
@MLM I just made a working AR hud that should work in real life
its not ideal, but its a design I've never seen before
 
MLM
@AttackingHobo like projecting and lenses and stuff?
 
kind of
 
Whats happening tonight guys?
 
@MLM @SpartanDonut this
 
WHAT IS THIS SORCERY
 
3:01 AM
light how does it work!?
 
MLM
I don't quite get it. Are those screens. What is that circuit board thing you look at?
 
Those are screens with a test pattern
its reflecting off the glasses
and thats it
It even works in real life too
I noticed that when light hit by my eye, I could see my eye and the area around it very clearly, almost like a microscope image
using aviator glasses
 
MLM
DIY Oculus Rift: learn.adafruit.com/3d-printed-wearable-video-goggles - just in case you don't follow Adafruit
 
@AttackingHobo Ooo interesting
 
Yeah. its weird
@SpartanDonut there is some good DOF in that image too
its cycles so its real DOF and not faked
camera is focusing on the far out square
and you can see the square near the eye that is blured
 
3:19 AM
feck, UI is now a reserved Unity component. time to rename all instances of my original UI component ;_;
 
3:31 AM
lawl
 
ahh, wasn't too bad lol.
Normal game still works okay at least! so I can tuck into this new UI stuff without much issue
ah man, this is now a WYSIWYG editor. Clicking and dragging in the Scene tab, this is a giant breath of fresh air for me
 
4:07 AM
So here is a way of finding lines in file that are recognizable as english:
grep [b-dB-Df-hF-Hj-nJ-Np-tP-Tv-zV-Z][aoeui][b-dB-Df-hF-Hj-nJ-Np-tP-Tv-zV-Z]
Anyone know how to do case-insensitive in regex?
 
MLM
/i
 
At the end?
And is that supposed to be a backslash?
Eh, I'll find it myself. NVM.
 
MLM
I am pretty sure it varies from language to language but /i works in lots. Just put it at the end
 
@MLM Ok, in grep you just do -i as an option
 
Hi people
 
4:11 AM
Hey there
 
MLM
@AidanMueller That regex doesn't seem to work for me. For example "Hello" only matches "Hel"
 
Lol cool name
 
MLM
nvm, just had to add a (.*) multiple match thing
 
@MLM Grep shows you the whole line unless you use -o.
So it should only work with grep really.
 
MLM
4:16 AM
@AidanMueller It doesn't work with "What is this"
 
Grep is one of my favorite tools on the pocket knife.
It should.
Hmm.
 
MLM
Check out the unit tests here: debuggex.com/r/i0uaIRrpHvpZYboJ
 
@MLM Something must be messed up with your regex. Did you copy the whole thing?
Maybe I didn't paste the whole thing.
 
MLM
If anything the first chunk is wrong. Does that phrase work for you?
It recognizes part of it but not all
 
grep -i [b-df-hj-np-tv-z][aoeui][b-df-hj-np-tv-z]
 
MLM
4:20 AM
That is much shorter than before?
 
Case insensitive.
I was manually doing ignore case before.
As in [a-zA-Z]
 
@MLM It matched all of these:
What is this
Where is this
Why do people listen to justin bieber
Or niki minaj for that matter
 
MLM
Is it supposed to match the whole phrase?
It misses the W
 
No. It matches Consonant-Vowel-Consonant.
 
MLM
4:24 AM
Alright, you mentioned it showed the whole line with grep. I missed the point a bit. I guess this finds where english text is but not the phrase itself
Pretty neat
 
Yeah.
I was using it to sort through a hexdump.
@MLM For hexdumps, I would have to figure out a way to show the lines around the matched lines with grep though.
 
5:28 AM
@MickLH What desktop environment do you use?
Do you use XFCE?
@Almo Oh, I know how to fix that. You have to disable this one setting that makes things fade away when you click a context item. Let's see if I can find it.
Found it.
Here is how you get rid of it:
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A: Menu select item stuck on screen after context or command menu has closed

280Z28The problem was introduced back in Windows 2000 when fading menu items were added. Originally, the feature was added in kernel-mode code and was tightly integrated into portions of the UI. Since it worked so well, it ended up staying there. The problem has appeared from time to time, but no one h...

(for future reference)
And this is how you prevent it:
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A: Menu select item stuck on screen after context or command menu has closed

JoeyLast time I saw this was in Windows 2000 where it happened to me occasionally. I suppose, a workaround would be to disable menu items fading out after clicking in the Performance options:

I honestly didn't even realize that clicked items fade until I had this bug.
Or maybe I did. Didn't really care anyways.
 
5:55 AM
@AidanMueller Did you see the AR hud concept I made?
Its kind of hard to see whats going on. But the bottom image is from the viewpoint of an eye with 100 degrees fov
 
@AttackingHobo How would your eye focus on that?
 
@AidanMueller its reflected
and that focuses it
 
Off of?
 
Its below the eye
 
Wait,
ah.
I think I get it.
 
5:57 AM
Im using cycles with DOF
 
That top picture is creepy though.
 
hahaha
 
Recalculate your normals.
 
Just a shitty mesh
I spent 99% of the time on the optics
it was hard getting it to focus properly
see the cube on the first pic?
you can see it in the second but its blury
 
@AttackingHobo I wouldn't have guessed :P
 
5:58 AM
But the display is not blurry
I saw this effect in real life
with my aviator glasses
 
@AttackingHobo You want it to be focused when it's at distance.
 
it is. its focused on that white cube out there
 
Do you plan on making this IRL?
 
the reflection bends the rays
 
It would be cool.
I wouldn't mind taking a whack at making it.
 
6:00 AM
Yeah. This or something similar with the light bouncing off
could make a cool motorcycle helmet maybe
wont look as retarded
prob black out the bottom of the reflection?
@AidanMueller another thing I was experimenting with for AR
 
@AttackingHobo Another cool idea, would be to have clear glasses. Then, put an lcd (the liquid crystal part of it) on the lens. That way, you can have polarized glasses that can be turned on and off.
 
@AidanMueller yeah. That was another thought. shutters of some kind, either mechanical or electronic
Imagine that with cameras on the back of each one
so you are looking at a camera feed on each eye
 
I mean like glasses that would be clear indoors, but you could flip a switch and it'd be black.
And polarized due to the nature of lcd.
Wait, would that work like that?
I don't know. Haha.
 
yes
well
 
@AttackingHobo Ok, what on earth is that?
 
6:04 AM
Two circular screens with cameras on the back of each one. and lenses to focus the light
 
Hmm.
I think the other idea would be easier.
But cool.
 
I wonder how clear a black lcd pannel could be?
and could it be curved?
I made an airplane in KSP this is its maiden voyage.
 
7:10 AM
 
7:23 AM
 
 
3 hours later…
10:12 AM
 
yes, that's how dogs work
argh these hangovers get worse while I'm getting older
 
11:05 AM
That question is closed for a reason. Your question will also be closed for the same reason. — Alex M. 43 secs ago
"Hmm, a question that got closed. I know what I'll do, I'll ask the same thing again!"
why is it closed where can I ask it? — user46104 3 mins ago
I can only guess some people are downright stupid and just can't see a goddamn orange box on a white background with huge text saying CLOSED AS NOT CONSTRUCTIVE
there is no reason given — user46104 1 min ago
sorry, not stupid
retarded
 
 
1 hour later…
12:25 PM
@AidanMueller woa thanks for that.
 
inb4 pip says hi
 
Pip
lol
 
:D
sup
 
Pip
was reading transcript :)
not too much, chatting with the rest of the voxel team, already worked a bit on Envio
working on commodities now
hbu??
 
waiting for 10GB of files to transfer at 1MB/s between two pcs
meh
busy network I guess
 
Pip
12:32 PM
sounds fun :P
should take about 2.84 minutes, by my calculations
 
now it's 500kb/s
 
Uh, 10 thousand seconds is a bit more than 2.84 minutes =p
 
10GB can't really take 2.84 min
 
Lot's of tiny files @AlexM.?
 
it's too little
 
12:35 PM
Also, hey
 
yes lots of tiny files
 
Compressing it might be practical, less overhead in the opening files bit
 
too late now
also compressing + decompressing + transfer is sure to take longer than just transfer
just copying the files from a location to another takes too long
 
Not necessarily, FTP for example has a lot of overhead for starting a file transfer
So if you have a ton of tiny files it can be faster to tar the file and upload it
 
I'm using bittorrent sync
between a PC and a mac
on the same network
 
12:38 PM
Especially if you use a system that can upload while compressing*
 
it's slow because 500 people share the same network atm
when they all go home it goes up to 10MB/s
 
Heh jeah that could be it to =p
 
whoa 30KB/s
/fap fap fap
Xcode is pretty neat
confusing as fuck
but neat-ish
I don't even know if I can use tabs in xcode
can you use tabs in xcode
 
Joe
tabs? what do you mean
 
tabs
 
Joe
12:52 PM
and which xcode beta 6?
 
like in browsers
what does it matter, they all look the same, can't see any change from the xcode I first saw in snow leopard
 
Joe
so the explorer gets taking used to... you can have 2 things open
 
I'm on mavericks
 
Joe
theres a little butler icon top right "assistant editor"
that will "attempt" to get you what you want eg if your looking at an interface it will try and also open the associated implementation
from there you can use the "breadcrumbs" to navigate a second tab on your own
 
that's too !straightforward
so the easiest way is to just open two files in separate windows?
 
Joe
12:55 PM
i cant speak to easiest / best but i recall having that issue as well, and ive definatly done a bit of two windows
i think you can pop these windows out of the main application as well
 
well when double clicking on a file it certainly opens a new window
so that looks like it's my only option
 
Joe
seems someones done it
i did not know that was a feature
 
cool, thanks
 
"Morning"
 
Joe
no worries
haha lokki! good morning
i have infected one person with UGT
maybe the virus will spread
 
1:00 PM
most likely not to me
I use "hi" because it's portable
 
Joe
hi is fine that isnt the issue of getting everyone to say good morning.. the issue is getting people to stop saying WTF is 5pm here
 
greetings that are coupled to the time of day are useless anyway
especially on the internet
 
Joe
ive had that conversation 50 thousand times "welcome to the internet, its this new thing that spans all of the times zones"
 
nobody gives a shit if someone says good morning or good evening
it's just as good as "hi" in the end
 
Joe
your right i dont care what people say as a greeting
as long as i dont have to say that
3 mins ago, by Joe
ive had that conversation 50 thousand times "welcome to the internet, its this new thing that spans all of the times zones"
 
1:09 PM
20
Q: Can we please be more friendly to new users?

ashes999I've been monitoring closed questions for a few days now. I noticed a very common pattern emerging: The question is closed ("on hold") It was closed by a single diamond mod The mod closed it within 10-15 minutes of it being asked The user (OP) had one rep only The question is a poor fit to the ...

lolwtf
someone mistakes "new user friendly" with "idiot friendly"
 
yeha
Trevor's answer signals the death of the site, in my opinion.
A slow decent under the weight of crappy questions.
 
it's just the nature of gamedev
too many hobbyists who have no clue join everything gamedev on the web
adding a filter would leave us with too few users, and at the end of the day, I'm sure pro gamedevs have their own methods to discuss matters with others of their kind
stuff like conventions, private channels w/e
I want to talk to people about gamedev but I'm just not that sure I want to do it in an environment where my primary target is... psychophobia
but this is just me
 
I doubt there's any secret channels of communication, unless maybe if it's internal to a company
there are plenty of public forums, though
 
I kinda took a look at gamedev.net
 
they're not really a replacement for stack exchange, but they exist
 
1:21 PM
and both on the forums and on the articles I only saw noobfests
 
heh, I didn't even get past the articles there to glance at the forums
 
I saw some articles by professionals on gamasutra I think
but gamedev.net is really full of bullshit like
LEARN TO DO PONG IN C++
1 min in
malloc
using namespace std;
I've read not even the IGDA is that much fun anymore
because of too many hobbyists joining
and too few professionals
 
good morning
 
well fuck me sideways, I now have tabs in xcode
productivity+=100
why isn't this on by default
 
1:25 PM
Because "Think Different" (TM) (R) ($)
 
because xcode already knew that you like it sideways, not tabbed
 
lol
 
I find that I get the most help at tech-specific forums. When I have a Cocos2d problem, I go to the Cocos2d forum.
Tabs only showed up in Xcode 5, I thought
unless I'm wrong
which is possible
But I don't remember seeing them in 3 or 4
 
I think I use 5.something
on mavericks
 
@Almo true
 
1:28 PM
edit your message
 
you received the notification anyway
 
I wonder how Jeff's new project, Discourse is going.
didn't seem very interesting to me when I glanced at it
 
It's being pretty widely adopted
As a message board made with ruby it has a wide fanbase
 
so it's something like phpbb where you DL and host it yourself?
or do you pay them to host your boards?
 
looks like both
open source, but they have hosting too
 
1:40 PM
ah right
speaking of which
i have to upgrade the phpbb version on my corp's forum
 
and as a person who's adminned almost every forum software in existence, this thing looks awesome
 
and the alliance forum, which also needs an upgrade to the eve api that verifies members are still in the alliance
 
I don't think Ruby even has anything to do with it. This thing is just better.
 
I didn't know it was supposed to function like phpbb. I thought it was someplace they wanted us to come to discuss things
makes more sense now
 
sometimes I just want to throw away the hardware and do something high-level.
 
1:46 PM
DO IT
 
nah I'm trying to win a contest with this
also, I'm looking forward to actually using this thing
 
:)
I have almost all of the Autechre stuff, but I find I don't listen often (to the later stuff) because it's just too challenging
certainly not while I'm working
 
I've added the Focus Attack (sometimes but not often dash canceled) to my Street Fighter 4 arsenal. One more step towards being awesome! flex
 
:)
 
:)
 
1:54 PM
:)
inb4 Icy combo breaker
 
(:
 
lol
 
broke your own combo dude :(
 
Icy is usually paying more attention
 
Spartan Broke the combo with inb4 :p
 
1:57 PM
That and I would have to break the combo if I wanted to inb4
otherwise it would be in after
 
yeah iwas saying spartan broke his own combo
dork
 

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