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12:18 AM
server a not known. Stupid name for a production server, maybe?
 
12:58 AM
@SQLKiwi I might join and lurk for the same reason but looking at that thread you linked reminds me of why I stopped visiting SQLServerCentral, NOISE. Good question asked, good answer given but to identify the good from the bad, you gotta trudge through a whole lot of NOISE
@SimonRigharts If we ever end up chewing the fat over beer, and you've got time to spare while I wax-lyrical, do let us share stories of working with/for/in the public sector :)
 
@MarkStorey-Smith Heh, I've only been in the sector for a year and a bit (~3 years if you count working for a fully-public-funded charity), but yeah sounds like a plan
pity we're almost diametrically opposite each other on the globe though
I'm starting to wonder, though, if working in the public sector is spoiling me for when/if I go back to commercial work
 
@SimonRigharts Do you want an honest opinion?
 
@MarkStorey-Smith I'm guessing it's "Yes."?
 
@SimonRigharts Not quite :)
 
@MarkStorey-Smith OK now you've got me curious, spill. :)
 
1:07 AM
If you want security and a job for life, stay. If you want more, get out, fast, really fast.
 
@MarkStorey-Smith Sounds about right. Having mostly 9-5 work with flexible working hours is quite nice, but I figure the longer I stay the bigger the shock will be if I do move.
 
@SimonRigharts I've got opinions on the topic but I'd be wary of stating them on a public forum that gets indexed by Google :)
 
@MarkStorey-Smith Yeah, especially since we're both using real names - wait does chat get indexed nowadays? Didn't think it used to
 
@SimonRigharts You may be right. Private rooms do but the perma-rooms perhaps not. They are accessible to anyone that chooses to browse their history though.
 
@MarkStorey-Smith Ah. I'm a little circumspect about what I post, as well - be a bit awkward if chat.se does get indexed and suddenly jumps to the top ahead of my facebook/linkedin :-/
I guess I should get a personal blog and start posting stuff to it, too. Urf.
 
 
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5:02 AM
@MarkStorey-Smith You're absolutely right about the noise. I've also pretty much given up SSC for similar reasons (and the general atmosphere has declined somewhat over the years - people seem to have forgotten we're around to help people).
 
5:48 AM
Would this be a good fit here?
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Q: using postgres server-side cursor for caching

shauncTo speed page generation for pages based on large postgres collections, we cache query results in memcache. However, for immutable collections that are very large, or that are rarely accessed, I'm wondering if saving server side cursors in postgres would be a viable alternate caching strategy. T...

 
6:19 AM
@jcolebrand FWIW, the AskSqlServerCentral site started as a StackExchange site before SE 2.0. When StackExchange killed that hosted model, they went OSQA.
I think there were actually two competing SQL SE 1.0 sites at the time. Can't remember the other one.
weblogs.asp.net/melvynharbour/archive/2009/10/14/… They went so far as to make SSC an OpenID provider to ease authentication.
 
6:50 AM
Is it possible to suggest new tags? There isn't a
 
7:06 AM
Or for that matter.
 
 
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8:30 AM
@SQLKiwi ask a question and tag it appropriately :)
A linux/unix A on a windows Q, two upvotes:
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A: PgAdmin III - How to connect to database when password is empty?

Alex JodidioI found this answer elsewhere. If your DB is on the local host, try leaving the host field blank in the connection as opposed to using “localhost” or “127.0.0.1″. This tells PgAdmin to connect via the local unix socket instead of TCP.

 
 
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10:08 AM
Why have been this post migrated to DBA? Apparently already with an accepted answer...
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Q: exist (select * from my table)

nyinyithannMy colleague suggests that Query 1 should run faster than Query 2. If it's true, please anyone explain me the reason. Thanks. Query (1): IF ( SELECT COUNT(UnitTrustCounterId) FROM UnitTrustCounter WHERE PeriodId = 0 ) > 0 SELECT 1 ELSE SELECT 0 Query (2): IF ...

 
@SQLKiwi are there any 9.2 specific questions? tags dont 'exist' unless they are applied to questions...
@dezso I'm thinking this migration should be rejected, what do others think?
 
@JackDouglas sure
 
 
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11:40 AM
@CadeRoux brass band Romanian style:
 
11:52 AM
@dezso I've had second thoughts and just deleted the answers :)
 
@JackDouglas Not sure the answers should be deleted... we should probably blast them and upvote martins comment
 
@MarkStorey-Smith I surely missed something :)
 
@MarkStorey-Smith good idea, but it will stay accepted unless the OP follows and un-accepts.
fire away :)
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A: exist (select * from my table)

bonCodigoWell I would like to comment on further aspect of using if-else with exists. It's best to avoid using if-else with exists. Why? You need to make sure at least one record exists in your table This method does not allow for concurrency (specially in insert, updates transactions, it could end u...

If only Nick was here to get angry about it ^^^^^
 
 
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1:20 PM
Problem sorted, OP happy
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A: pg_dump freezes on windows service application

Timoteo Poncedezso was right, the PGPASSWORD environment variable is present when executing Tomcat from a single shell, but not when it's started as a service. The solution is to put the value in the process environment: ProcessBuilder builder = new ProcessBuilder( "C:/postgres9/bin/pg_dump.exe", ...

 
1:49 PM
Dangerous mis-reading of documentation and error messages:
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Q: Solve conflict between affinity mask and IO affinity mask?

JosienI executed this on my SQL Server: EXEC sp_configure 'show advanced options', 1 And then executed RECONFIGURE. This presented me with the following error message: The affinity mask specified conflicts with the IO affinity mask specified. Use the override option to force this configuration....

 
2:09 PM
I get "Stack Overflow is currently offline for maintenance"
 
@ypercube me too, but could post an answer in the meantime
 
JNK
2:23 PM
its offline
looks like it may be back up
 
hey! We seem to be back in business
I was about ready to call Brent
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@JackDouglas I was looking at this one:
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Q: Performance impact of setting PostgreSQL to log all statements

DragonLordPostgreSQL 9.2.2 on Windows 7 64-bit. The setting log_statement in the postgresql.conf file specifies what statements to log (none, DDL, data-modifying, or all). To what extent does setting log_statement = 'all' degrade performance? I've read that this significantly reduces performance, but th...

 
So for that link I just posted.. what do you do in that case for the suggested edit review? The suggested edit seems like it conflicts with the answer and would be better as a comment or a second answer.. - dba.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/5564
I've skipped that one for someone else but want to learn.
 
2:38 PM
@SQLKiwi Have you got enough rep to re-tag it? stackoverflow.com/privileges/create-tags
 
JNK
It needs to be a comment
 
@JNK I agree. So do I reject it? Or is there a way to flag an edit as "should be comment" ?
 
JNK
I rejected it and left a not
 
@MikeWalsh I skipped it earlier as well. Couldn't see what he was trying to say but I think I get it now. I'll try "improve"
 
JNK
When I reject I get a custom reason box
 
2:39 PM
ahh
I should have rejected and gone that step forward
 
JNK
I think you do too but not sure
 
why can I add a comment in the review section but not upvote a comment? :(
 
@JackDouglas I do, but I was unaware of the process. I did search the dba.se FAQ, but I didn't think of going via the 'privileges' link to dba.stackexchange.com/privileges/create-tags
 
I read this question and I think @SQLKiwi dba.stackexchange.com/questions/30158/…
 
@MikeWalsh It's on my radar. Just woken up.
 
2:42 PM
@SQLKiwi oops I posted the SO link didn't I. I always forget where the link to that page is tw, so while I remember, do you know you can get it by hovering over your name in the bar at the top of the dba.se page?
 
@JackDouglas That's the only way I know how to get to those pages, yes. And yes you did :)
 
Well after two days of driving to work my love of winter is officially over.
 
@JackDouglas (somewhat related)
 
@TimStone Thanks :)
 
@SQLKiwi :-) I just want to see where you go with it. I have an idea but not enough to post the answer confidently.. I was thinking the example isn't good. We aren't using the found value in enough places (in a subquery maybe?) for enough rows returned for SQL to want to spool.. Plus there may not be enough rows anyway.
 
2:50 PM
if a post on meta.dba is flagged as 'status-complete' from a few months ago, should I ask a new question if I see the same issue now?
or just comment on the old question?
opted for the comment:
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Q: First post not in review list?

dezsoHere is a question from Joey, which is his first post on DBA.SE (his user profile shows exactly one question and no answers so far). However, the first posts review list is empty (and today's listing shows zero reviews). Shouldn't this post show up in this list? EDIT Recently I experience the...

 
JNK
@DTest I think new Q referencing the old one
they do check for BUG tags on the metas
 
ok
and done:
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Q: First Posts Reviews not working

DTestBack in October, dezso asked this question which is flagged as bug fixed. However, I'm still seeing the issue that a user's first post is not showing up in the first post review list. Here is an example: http://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/30162/mysql-replication-delay-very-serious

 
3:12 PM
@CadeRoux blah blah blah hence the reason they should reintegrate instead of paying someone to run that site.
Yes, the whole point is the SE1.0 didn't work
oh you guys!!
This answer should be improved to better answer the question and explain any reasoning involved. — SQL Kiwi 8 hours ago
I'm so proud of you all, leaving comments now :D
I'm still going to obliterate that answer into a comment, because it was auto flagged, but yay!
 
3:26 PM
@dezso Nice!
 
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Q: First Posts Reviews not working

DTestBack in October, dezso asked this question which is flagged as bug fixed. However, I'm still seeing the issue that a user's first post is not showing up in the first post review list. Here is an example: http://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/30162/mysql-replication-delay-very-serious

 
@jcolebrand You can thank the review queue process for that one :)
 
Not actually an issue, I'm writing up why
 
BTW thanks for saying that - it's the positive vibe around here that keeps me coming back.
 
I like to show appreciation where I can
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A: First Posts Reviews not working

jcolebrandAccording to my research, trygvis did review it: http://dba.stackexchange.com/review/first-posts/5569 and about 90 minutes before you asked this, give or take. Additionally, let me show you how I got there :D

@DTest hope that helps
Ok all, I'm gone to meetings for a bit
 
3:38 PM
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13822896/advice-on-building-a-queuing-system
Not exactly sure what this guy is looking for.
 
@MikeWalsh Question improved, now for the answer.
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Q: Forcing an index spool

AkashI know its something that should be avoided for performance reasons, but am trying to show a condition where it appears as a demo on how to make sure it does not appear. However, I end up with a missing index warning, yet the optimizer chooses not to create a temporary index. The query I am usi...

 
Experts and mods Thoughts.
 
@SQLKiwi :-) I'll get some popcorn
 
@SQLKiwi So the user is trying to force an index spool instead of just creating the suggested index?
 
@Zane It's for a demo, apparently.
 
3:42 PM
"I know its something that should be avoided for performance reasons, but am trying to show a condition where it appears as a demo on how to make sure it does not appear."
 
But yes.
 
that was how the OP expressed it
 
@jcolebrand oh, I wasn't aware that it disappeared from list once someone had reviewed it. I thought it was open for up to X people to review.
yeah, your screens differ from mine. So maybe it's a rep thing?
 
You can only see the review history for everyone if you've reached 10k, if that's what you're referring to.
 
3:48 PM
@Zane Yes? Why are you pointing me at that?
 
@TimStone No, I'm wondering why jcolebrand's first screen shows '1 first post' to review...but mine is '0 first posts'.
 
Ah, gotcha.
 
Well mine shows 1 now, but it's a different question. So it's not completely broken :)
 
Wrong window sorry.
I was going to ask you a question so I had @SQLKiwi tagged but then I went to paste that link but still had this window open. My bad.
 
ninja snow
 
3:54 PM
@MikeWalsh Order up!
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A: Forcing an index spool

SQL KiwiOne way to get an index spool to appear naturally is to express the requirement using slightly different syntax: SELECT DISTINCT z.a FROM dbo.t5 AS z JOIN dbo.t4 AS y ON y.a >= z.a AND y.a <= z.a OPTION (LOOP JOIN, MAXDOP 1, FORCE ORDER); This produces an execution plan like: ...

@Zane No worries. Ah I see you added a comment, nice.
 
@SQLKiwi you are better at this than I am lol
 
@SQLKiwi I love the bolded production system warning in there, Paul :)
 
@MikeWalsh Well you know how people are ;)
"Ooo ooo ooo magic trace flag!"
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@SQLKiwi Indeed I do
 
DUDE!!! AN MVP TOTALLY SHOWED ME HOW TO DO THIS AND SAID I SHOULD DO IT!!!!
 
3:57 PM
@SQLKiwi You ever decide on Summit or not? I'm going to go. Client meeting timed just right.
+1 on that answer though. Good job
 
@swasheck snort
 
@SQLKiwi that's how people "are"
 
@sqlkiwi I don't have a clue what I just read on that answer, but I like the effort, so +1 from me !
 
@MikeWalsh I have a little while longer to procrastinate. I was hoping @RobFarley would be going but it looks like he isn't going to make it.
@swasheck Indeed. My snort was a sort of ironic laugh-y type thing.
@DTest If you mean the rewrite as paired inequalities, there's a link to a blog post that explains it a little bit more. Otherwise, let me know what is unclear and I will try to improve the answer. Or someone else can.
 
Naw, just meant SQL server in general :)
 
4:04 PM
@DTest other than imgur being blocked here it's a solid answer. not that my credentials should in any way be needed to validate @SQLKiwi's
 
4:18 PM
@SQLKiwi that answer is well on its way to being quite epic
 
5:11 PM
when granting select permissions to a view, does it cascade perms down, or do i need to build them up?
 
@SQLKiwi ah. thanks
 
5:28 PM
@RichardTheKiwi Are you around?
 
too many kiwis...or not enough?
you guys are as proud, or more so, as Texans (who are awesome).
 
Not enough it seems :)
There are fewer of us so we have to try harder.
Texas population: 25,674,681; NZ: 4,405,200 (5.8x)
 
hm, what would happen if texans mass-migrated to NZ...sheer awesomeness...or NZ sinks
 
We would suddenly need a lot of tents :)
 
I assume it would look something like europe/NorthAmerica from space (each plane is a 100k texans) flightradar24.com
 
5:41 PM
@DTest I spent over an hour on that site yesterday watching planes arrive in Auckland. It's an amazing thing - I particularly like the cockpit view.
 
@SQLKiwi gonna need a bigger boat
 
there's a...cockpit view? cool
there goes my day
 
me: How are you passing in the lot number parameter?
dev: Our application build the query internal and send it as is the way you see it in the request.
me: So it’s not parameterized? You build the query string internally?
dev: Yep. It is build within the application and the value of lot number is entered on the scanner and then application send the SQL to the database.
@SQLKiwi texas isnt all that texans believe it to be
@SQLKiwi colorado is the best state in the US
 
where is the unstar option?
oh there it is "ignore this user (everywhere)"
 
@DTest i love christmas cookies
 
5:46 PM
@swasheck Certainly a more sensible size (pop: 5,116,796)
 
@swasheck lol
 
@SQLKiwi and a more sensible populace
 
the air is too thin...
 
I really couldn't say :) diplomatic mode ON
 
maybe your air is too thick
 
5:47 PM
:)
 
@SQLKiwi that's just a session setting. it'll reset when you logout and log back in
 
sometimes it comes back on when you go idle and come back
 
@DTest i grew up in florida. now when i go back to visit i feel like i need to grow gills
nice poopstorm on G+, @jcolebrand
 
@swasheck Yeah, I don't think they understand my point
 
@jcolebrand no artist is truly understood in his time
 
5:49 PM
ha!
 
@CadeRoux is a G+ maniac
i refuse to use G+ until they come up with a good markdown strategy
 
@swasheck I do like it. Google is in the doghouse with me right now, though - about two dozen false-positive SPAMs in mailbox in last month alone. Also the Android search function is completely bugged in GMail 4.2.1. Any operation on a mail in the search results (delete, archive) causes all kinds of strange UI behavior and it's impossible to get a search result list to reliably refresh.
 
@CadeRoux noticed that on my wife's galaxy
 
@swasheck Everything was fine in 4.1.2
I have a LOT of rules (hundreds?) and my main working set is actually "is:unread OR in:inbox"
 
i'm not familiar enough with the android gmail stuff ... just that my wife has complained of losing emails
@CadeRoux nice
 
6:07 PM
@swasheck I've never lost them - but what can happen is that it misleads you into the wrong operation because it's taken you to another item in the list - I really haven't figured it out. I made one screencast hoping someone from gmail would see it, but nothing. I've submitted feedback to gmail to no effect.
 
6:28 PM
today i feel: screw this, i'm going back to disney
 
@CadeRoux Your G+ comment is very good. I was going to include a link to it, but I failed to discover that feature (if it exists) before I lost interest.
 
@dezso - I know. The foreign_key column name was just an example to illustrate a point. Regarding your solution: if I then have another table that uses the addresses table, do I then add another column to the addresses table? When does this madness end? — MegaHit 51 mins ago
 
@dezso when you get to Boyce-Codd heaven
there are no tears, there is no sorrow, no sighing, or denormalized data structure
 
he speaks about two FKs
 
The existing answer is a bit lazy
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A: Foreign key of multiple tables

a1ex07You have couple options. I'd describe one I like the most, but you can find others searching for 'resolving polymorphic association in database'. Add a common table for companies and contacts (I'd prefer to rename contacts to people or persons), say party. Thus, companies and contacts will have ...

Not quite enough effort for an upvote from me
 
6:43 PM
@SQLKiwi agreed ... but diminishing returns, no?
 
@swasheck Don't understand...diminishing returns?
If a question's worth answering...
 
sorry ... it could be that the answerer perceives that a detailed, thoughtful answer would be lost on the OP
and would result in more explanation
 
Right. But if a question is worth answering, it's worth answering well. Otherwise the answerer is just massaging his or her ego, and saying "I know all the answers but I can't be bothered to explain it clearly or well". Doesn't help future visitors as much as it could does it?
 
@SQLKiwi sure. i agree, just trying to get into the mind of a1ex07
 
@swasheck I see. I am pondering leaving a comment on his answer.
 
6:50 PM
@SQLKiwi then i'm preparing my +1 upvote whatever thingy
 
7:01 PM
hahahahah ... i just commented too
 
Very good +1
 
@SQLKiwi i thank you. but THIS comment takes the cake
Life is risky... — dezso 2 mins ago
 
Hah
 
@SQLKiwi i was wondering about your thoughts on this question
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Q: how often to run Tablediff

touI wonder if it is safe to run the Tablediff tool on a database fairly often? Let's say every 15 or 30 minutes. Also, the Data in the DB is around 100 GB.

it seems silly, to me, to run a production "application" that uses a troubleshooting tool
 
Sounds like he needs replication?
I wonder if the performance in the server decreases a lot. I would like to keep the data replicated, and check for consistency often. — tou yesterday
If only SQL Server had some built-in feature to do that
 
7:08 PM
@SQLKiwi yeah. but isnt tablediff supposed to help troubleshoot replication issues? how does one stumble upon the tool but not the tech?
 
Something that could replicate data, or mirror it, or ship logs to another location, or something...
 
@SQLKiwi lol
 
@swasheck People can be very creative :)
 
i guess
 
sleigh_seen_count += 1;
 
7:10 PM
sleigh_count_seen++
 
T-SQL doesn't have ++ :'(
I love up-arrow
 
@SQLKiwi yeah. but you're pretty fluent in c# / powershell
 
is it only me who doesn't see the small arrows in the mobile view of the chat?
 
@dezso "small arrows?"
 
I'm waiting for @JNK's blog post about powershell.
 
7:12 PM
pointing to the referred entry
 
@dezso oh yeah. i dont see them in mobile either. that may be a function of my eyes, though
 
@swasheck I can write a little C# - enough for SQLCLR usually, if MSDN is to hand - but I have never written a line of PS.
 
@SQLKiwi i could have sworn you ... nevermind ... that was @JNK who was bubbling about posh
 
Small milestone: passing 5k
 
@SQLKiwi It was sarcasm. There are a lot of quite interesting discussions started on so and dba.se which don't fit, and are typically closed as too localized or no objective answer - while G+ could cater to that.
 
7:20 PM
nice
@CadeRoux intelligent humor is the best kind
@SQLKiwi a1ex07 updated
 
@SQLKiwi congrats
 
@swasheck +1'd his answer despite the UPDATE marker
 
omg, almost doused my MBP in soda ...
bad cole
 
MBP may refer to: Biology * Major basic protein, a protein which in humans is encoded by the PRG2 gene * Maltose-binding protein, a part of the maltose/maltodextrin system of Escherichia coli * Mbp, an abbreviation for mega base pairs * 4-Methyl-2,4-bis(4-hydroxyphenyl)pent-1-​ene, a metabolite of bisphenol A * Myc-binding protein-1, a protein encoded by the alpha-enolase glycolytic enzyme * Myelin basic protein, a protein believed to be important in the process of myelination of nerves in the central nervous system * Mannan-binding lectin (also mannose- or mannan-binding protein), an impo...
Disambiguation required :)
MacBook Pro?
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A: Foreign key of multiple tables

a1ex07You have couple options. I'd describe one I like the most, but you can find others searching for 'resolving polymorphic association in database'. Add a common table for companies and contacts (I'd prefer to rename contacts to people or persons), say party. Thus, companies and contacts will have ...

Much better
 
Maltose-binding protein .... @jcolebrand is e. coli
 
7:27 PM
shhhh, I'm in a meeting :p
 
bad move
now i want to just make your DING! alerts go crazy
 
JNK
POWERSHELL
WHO SAID POWERSHELL?
 
Mwa ha ha ha rep exactly 5000.
 
@JNK i believe it was @Zane ... or me ...
@CadeRoux i tend to stay as far away from any Kardashian ... kitty ... as I can
 
7:53 PM
@swasheck volume on mute ;-)
 
@jcolebrand @swasheck and you can even disable DING
 
@swasheck what?
 
@dezso I know
 
oh yeah I mentioned something about eagerly awaiting @JNK's blog
 
but mute is better because so many things
 
8:06 PM
about powershell
 
JNK
I'll write it soonish
@jcolebrand Is the blog being revived?
 
can we can we can we?
who's going to spearhead it?
I think we should thrust it upon swasheck
 
JNK
good idea
 
@jcolebrand I could write a blog about how to cope with being crushed in meetings and have your company decide to use garbage design...
is that helpful?
 
Yes
If you can spin it as "why this is the wrong thing to have happen" and give a proactive method to work against it, and point out that sometimes you have to go with the design that people paying you make you do?
 
8:11 PM
I could title it how i learned to stop fighting and start drinking :)
 
What's the opinion of the crowd about this one? Would fit here?
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Q: using postgres server-side cursor for caching

shauncTo speed page generation for pages based on large postgres collections, we cache query results in memcache. However, for immutable collections that are very large, or that are rarely accessed, I'm wondering if saving server side cursors in postgres would be a viable alternate caching strategy. T...

 
@jcolebrand not me. powershell is like my wife. can't live without it, but (for better or worse) sometimes i just can't figure out what i did to get the result i got
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sweet. the case of the vanishing backups.
 
JNK
@swasheck He was referring to managing the blog
 
@JNK oh.
well whomever is doing it now has really dropped the ball.
i definitely think i could do a better job ... at dropping the ball HARDER
 
JNK
It was a collective ball dropping I think
Jcole and Jack and I all sort of thought/hoped someone else would do the actual work
 
8:19 PM
@swasheck To just run the blog, not powershell :p
 
@dezso "xDB Replication Server 5.0" do you do much with the EnterpriseDB contributions or do you stick with the base implementation
 
@swasheck tsk tsk
I hoped people would actively write entries
 
@JNK i was going to post a few entries, but by the time we got my permissions sorted out, i'd forgotten the disaster from which i'd recovered.
 
@swasheck no EnterpiseDB
 
it was a bit like what i hear about childbirth. it's awful when you're going through it, but a few weeks later you have something more pressing that distracts you from your past pain
 
8:24 PM
in certain regards it is not very promising - do you know how one can try it without paying for it a lot?
I simply can'T find this piece of information on their site
 
@swasheck ah, xDB
I meant Postgres Plus
 
oh
 
with all that fancy Oracle-like sugar
@swasheck it could be useful, though
 
i'd only be interested in pgplus for the more robust admin features
 
8:29 PM
... and Enterprise Manager
 
@dezso i lumped that into the admin features :)
 
@swasheck I wonder if it is a successful business plan without an express edition (borrowed from the big ones)
 
@dezso their express edition is called postgresql
 
@swasheck possibly :)
 
their value-add is in their admin tools and the oracle syntax
i'm with @COTW who believes that someone like redhat should swoop in and really invest in the pg project
to really help accelerate its growth
 
8:33 PM
@swasheck only if after the acquisition/anything I won't find all sort of redhat docs instead of PG and vice versa
that MySQL-Oracle thing kills me
 
So do any of you remember that nightmare developer query I posted?
 
@dezso i would hate to see acquisition ... i would rather see "investment"
@Zane yeah
i actually had a dream about that last night
 
@swasheck whatever
@swasheck ugh
 
I looked a little deeper at that since I'm rebuilding it
 
@dezso i meant about the nasty @Zane query ... i dreamed of a query with a select count(*) in the return fields and thought, "SWEET!!! a table scan for every result!!!!"
 
8:35 PM
The sub select in those queries run 19000 times.
 
@swasheck that's why my ugh
 
@dezso but yeah ... the pg documentation is great. i'd hate to see that go
 
and they join togather tables with 150 million and 200 million rows in them......
 
@Zane is it big data? :)
 
Lol @dezso this query needs to be web scale
 
8:40 PM
@JNK @jcolebrand i'd be happy to help with the blog stuff ... i'm limited in my contacts so it's not like i'd be all that great at corralling authors
 
We would help you with that, I'm sure
 
@Zane that query needs some serious refactoring
@jcolebrand let me know what you'd like
username @ gmail.com
(@jcolebrand you have it, actually)
 
@swasheck It's actually coming along quite well
 
@swasheck I think it would be enough if you wrote a post or two every week
 
@dezso i think that the point was not that i would write ;)
but that i would "encourage" people like ohhh
 
8:43 PM
@swasheck I am very much regretting not going for that SSAS gig you sent me...
 
@swasheck that's only the carrot
:)
 
@dezso to write a bit on all the nifty new things you can do in postgresql 9.2. what are the realized benefits of covering indexes :)
@Zane haha
@dezso a bit on why the programmers were all wetting themselves over the json data types while the admins were amped for the indexes
 
@swasheck json in PG is the spy of nosql :)
 
@dezso trojan horse?
 
@swasheck it's a bacteriophage in jcolebrand E. coli
 
8:52 PM
@dezso using python+pg as i do ... why not just a json.dumps(cursor.fetchall())?
@Zane you're not related to the hockey player, are you?
 
@swasheck no sir
 
@Zane ok. i was just looking at the position that i forwarded to you
and noticed your last name and knew that he'd played there
 
@swasheck all I know about pythons is that those are very long snakes
 
I get that a lot
 
@dezso are you strictly db dev?
@Zane i'd assume so
 
8:59 PM
Usually online a get a is Zane your real name.
 
@swasheck no, some PHP-HTML-CSS-JS involved
 
@swasheck I think I'm ready to test the new version of the beast.
 
@Zane happy QEP-ing
 
I'm going to sound stupid here but QEP?
 
i just made it up
query execution planning
so i'm the stupid one
 
9:11 PM
I see
Execution plan is way better. I didn't even really have to alter the logic terribly. Just the way it was being selected.
 
select
a,
b,
(select count(*) from t) as c
from k
that was my favorit
 
9:26 PM
Where did you find that??
 
@Zane it was a pattern in your query
ELECT P.CompanyID,
       P.CompanyName,
       P.StoreID,
       P.StoreName,
       P.ReportDate,
       Isnull((SELECT Sum(FT.GrossSales - Isnull(FP.PaymentAmount, 0)) AS PullNet
               FROM   FactSalesTransaction AS FT
                      LEFT JOIN (SELECT TransactionID,
                                        DimStoreID,
                                        DimBusinessDateID,
                                        Sum(PaymentAmount) AS PaymentAmount
                                 FROM   FactSalesPayment
 
Yeha yeah.
 
Speaking of jobs ... anybody here know a mid-level tech looking for an IT internal office gig with some customer facing duties (mostly about server configurations and consistency) in the DFW or OKC area?
 
no, but i did stay at a holiday inn express
 
Waka Waka
 
9:34 PM
@Zane ahhh fozzie.
 
9:45 PM
and....rep cap for the day.
 
Why is there a rep cap?
 
Just answered a new one so that one is truly altruistic!
 
@Zane so that people like @SQLKiwi and @AaronBertrand dont run away with the show ;)
 
@Zane I saw a meta post by Jeff Atwood once saying something like there has to be limits on everything (time to change votes, max rep, you name it) or Bad Things Happen.
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Q: What is the reasoning behind the reputation cap?

Graeme PerrowThere has been a lot of talk about the daily reputation cap and what counts and what doesn't count and so on. But why is there a cap at all? I've seen lots of questions about whether the cap number should be changed, or whether certain things should or should not apply to the cap, but I've never ...

 
9:54 PM
Understandable
 
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