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2:00 PM
Also, I still consider myself a student
 
@MarkBuffalo oh sorry, I mean "high school student"
 
Everyone working in CS should always be a student.
 
@AviD I've been writing code since high school myself... but I actually learned a little technique from this new guy
and I am grateful
 
that's the best, when you learn something new from someone you're supposed to be teaching.
 
I would imagine my code is awful... back in my day it took too long to chisel comments as well as code...
6
 
2:03 PM
in the words of the Sages: "I have learned much from my teachers, and I have learned even more from my friends, but from my students I have learned the most of all".
@RoryAlsop self-burn! woo!
 
@AviD saves time, plus I get to do it properly, unlike those youngsters :-)
 
@RoryAlsop who should get off your lawn?
 
@RoryAlsop hahaha
 
@RоryMcCune damn rite
 
@RoryAlsop a/s/l
How old are you, Rory? You look like you're in your 30s or something...
 
2:05 PM
looooooooooooooooooooool 30s
 
@MarkBuffalo wazzat mean again - I have only ever seen it used in the DMZ
 
30 000s would be right
 
@RoryAlsop age/sex/location
 
@MarkBuffalo hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha - coughs too much. Dies. Again...
 
@RoryAlsop age/sex/location. It's an old IRC/chat thing.
 
2:05 PM
it's common on pickup sites
 
@MarkBuffalo IRC was after my time...
 
@Ohnana not visited one of them
yet
 
@RoryAlsop Wow
 
@RoryAlsop omegle is waiting for you
 
2:06 PM
@RoryAlsop Me neither, I feel that's an experience I'm missing on.
 
noooooooo
don't go to omegle
 
@Ohnana oh dear - should I know who that is?
 
DON'T GO THERE
DON'T GO THERE
 
tappity tappity googles
 
@RoryAlsop "who"
 
2:07 PM
ahh - what
 
oh rory you're so innocent
2
LMAO
 
@RoryAlsop it's a place that start's video chats with random people online, with predictable results
 
not anymore!
 
@RоryMcCune sounds funny, right? Like the guy who did the wrecking ball vid?
 
@RоryMcCune you'll see unwanted fapping 99% of the time
....not that I would have enough of a sample size to tell you that
 
2:07 PM
@MarkBuffalo that was the predicatable results of which I spoke
 
@RoryAlsop Steve Kardynal <3
 
@Simon that's the fella
 
@RoryAlsop yep, so it's not all unwanted images
 
nah - my VM says I'd have to turn off way too many things to allow that site to work. Not going to bother thanks very much
 
@MarkBuffalo now @Simon's thinking: "unwanted fapping? How could that be unwanted??"
 
2:09 PM
lol
 
pls
My Friday was perfection ovid.
 
@Simon lolol
 
@Ohnana lol you have no idea, @RoryAlsop was around for the original shock sites emerging, we saw that stuff before everyone was inured to it
 
@AviD I think we all know where he's surfing right now.
 
lol
 
2:09 PM
@RоryMcCune oh right
 
So I'm getting a network engineering swag pack from se
 
@RоryMcCune So was I. Back in the mid 90s, right?
 
@LucasKauffman COME ON
WHERE IS MY DAMN T-SHIRT
 
@MarkBuffalo he's thinking "FINALLY someone wants to see my pony!"
 
I WANT MY SE SWAG
FOR DONUTS SAKE
 
2:10 PM
@Simon nice! (and well done for telling @Simon)
 
@AviD You got your sizes mixed up
 
@MarkBuffalo I saw 'em early 2000's when I started working in IT Security and had to do investigations of what people had been sending in e-mail. Got tubgirl on the first one.. yeuch
 
@MarkBuffalo My Little Pony
 
@AviD Did you just censor yourself?
 
@RоryMcCune lmfao
 
2:11 PM
@RоryMcCune yeah - at the time that seemed to be far more "out there" than goatse
 
@Simon of course.
this hammer is blind justice.
 
@RоryMcCune I once had a pair of staff members who were carrying out a very graphic BDSM relationship over work email...
 
@RоryMcCune This was seriously being sent by corp email???
 
I wouldnt do to you anything I wouldnt do to myself.
uhh wait a sec...
 
@Matthew Did it involve, erm... amputation?
 
2:12 PM
jeezus
 
@MarkBuffalo people used to do things from work because computers at work had internet connectivity
home often didn't
 
@Matthew ... urgh, yeah My missus was an e-mail admin back in the day and had to investigate stuff like that as well, we compared who had seen the horribelest thing
 
@Matthew That's totally inappropriate for a work environment
 
@MarkBuffalo thus the investigations
 
I remember being the only house for miles that had a modem. A 9600 baud modem.
 
2:12 PM
WAIT, I can ping the two donuts from SE who were here yesterday!
What was the name of the community manager guy?
 
@MarkBuffalo Well, it might have done. But more likely of bits of him, by his wife, who wasn't the other participant (although she did work for the same company)
 
@Matthew its a bell a book and a candle. Salt's a different tradition. That said, I'm partial to fire.
 
@Simon yes, you can...but should you? Do you feel lucky? Well, do you, @Simon?
 
Oh yes, super win.
 
@Simon there's a specific CM who handles that
I can't remember who
 
2:13 PM
I am really happy I've never had to investigate anything like that...
 
@Matthew wow
 
@MarkBuffalo when I was working at the Police, someone "accidentally" sent some of this stuff to everything beginning with an A - in hebrew, that basically amounts to sending to the mailing list of EVERY.SINGLE.DEPARTMENT.
@RoryAlsop heh, that's what @RоryMcCune has now!
 
@AviD nah - he's got better bandwidth than me, despite the wire having to cross mountains, rivers, fight wild bears...
 
@RoryAlsop photos.google.com/album/… this was our first modem...
@RoryAlsop uphill both ways in the snow?
 
@JourneymanGeek hahahahaha - I get the google 404 page
@JourneymanGeek of course
 
2:15 PM
0_0
 
@bluefeet Hello kind sir. I would like to talk about an injustice that has been going on for far too long. After nominating myself in the last InfoSec.SE elections, I did not receive my SE t-shirt, which turned me into a sad, cynic man. Is there any way I can receive my t-shirt and finally go on with my life as I used to?
 
@JourneymanGeek mine was an IBM. Bigger than a modern laptop
 
@AviD That is worse than my former boss trying to sleep with me
 
@Simon lol
 
2:15 PM
And actually emailing me about it
 
try that
 
@Matthew yeah that's definately something to do over work email... if you're fucking stupid
 
@MarkBuffalo a/s/l?
 
@Simon You can blame he who shall not be named for that
 
@JourneymanGeek yep. A half size modem. Modern
 
2:16 PM
hey guys did I use that right?
 
@JourneymanGeek ovid?
 
@Ohnana To be fair, we only picked up on it because he was also selling our customer data on ebay...
 
@RoryAlsop 1200 tho
 
@AviD 33 / f / ca
 
@AviD no
 
2:16 PM
@Simon no
 
@JourneymanGeek :-)
 
someone basically stood in EVERY damned election
 
beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee bip
 
@JourneymanGeek Shit, I think I know who it is.
 
2:16 PM
@JourneymanGeek wasn't me. Honest. This time...
 
@MarkBuffalo did you see Mean Bosses?
 
@JourneymanGeek goddamnit
 
@Simon I sympathise.
 
@AviD pls. my access is faster than @RoryAlsop 's
 
@AviD nah. And she basically was already pregnant with another dude's baby
 
2:17 PM
I remember him saying in his nomination something like "And SE gives me a t-shirt every time I fill this"
 
@MarkBuffalo surely that removes one worry (joke!)
@Simon who wuzzat?
 
(I have SU x2, SF, SE and AU T shirts. And a SU windows 8 T. AND the hoodie)
 
Plus I'm married. No thanks... actually, not even a thanks. Just no
 
though the AU T-shirt is worn out
 
@RoryAlsop loooooool
 
2:18 PM
@RoryAlsop Not sure of his username, I think I'm mixing up two dudes.
He's not a InfoSec.SE guy.
 
OH
I THINK I KNOW HIS NAME
 
DO NOT NAME HIM
 
Does it start with an E?
 
anyway yeah
 
2:19 PM
I would like to state that I accept t-shirts, hoodies, sweatshirts, socks, and mugs. I'm nice like that
 
The fricking donut.
 
@Matthew i liek stickers c:
 
@JourneymanGeek SU hoodie, Travel towel and t-shirt, Cycling t-shirt and water bottles, Skeptics t-shirt, Mod hats, 5 or 6 SE t's, SE mug, SE water bottle, That Microsoft site t-shirt, Sec.SE t and torch, fingers crossed for Music as it has graduated
 
@Matthew we had to pay for it, but my last job had fairly sweet movie crew T shirts
 
2:19 PM
and a few other things
@Simon is that why he did it? for the free clothes?
 
Oh, if you were local and wanted stickers..
 
@RoryAlsop Yeah son, just enumerate all of them to make me feel sad.
 
@RoryAlsop he was just strange
 
@RoryAlsop Dunno.
 
@Simon I couldn't enumerate all of them, Those were just the ones off the top of my head
;-P
 
2:20 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
@Simon organise a bunch of folks to go to B-Sides Toronto or whatever, speak to SE, get swag to hand out to worthy recipients and have 1 to wear for yourself. Simples!
 
@RoryAlsop Or steal all the swag an swim in it.
I assume that's what the other guy does.
 
that reminds me, if you're in the Philly area on April 2, you should come to the Drexel Cyber Security conference.
 
I've just changed my front door and locks specifically to stop you swimming in my swag @Simon
 
2:22 PM
@RoryAlsop Give me a new key, please.
 
lulz
 
2:39 PM
@RoryAlsop When? I'll take @Simon's place, because he'll pawn everything for Donuts.
 
@MarkBuffalo that's what SE typically provide if the case seems reasonable. So the usual process is to identify an appropriate event, get tickets, request swag from SE, got to event, identify folks who should get swag (eg speakers, folks who provide good questions or content etc) and give it to them, then post some swag pics on blog, twitter etc - helps to confirm you actually went :-)
 
Hmm, I want to try that.
 
lol
 
I'm kind of awkward socially, so I might just walk up to people and go, "uhh.... so I got this swag..."
hand it to them, nod, and walk off oddly
 
@RoryAlsop I'd take pics and then would take the swag off their hands immediately.
@MarkBuffalo HOW SURPRISING.
 
2:44 PM
@Simon send something to contact us
 
@Simon Would be like, "Hey man, you want to buy these cheeseburgers, man?"
@bluefeet We are having a B-Sides conference in July. I'd like to pass out some infosec swag.
 
@bluefeet Cheers.
@MarkBuffalo Use the contact us link he just gave you donut.
 
@RoryAlsop you getting up to Securi-Tay this year?
Just thinking , do you think it would be worth a punt for some Sec.SE swag to give out at it?
 
I do think it would be worth it
the more people we have, the better
 
@Simon she not he
 
2:46 PM
As it stands, a lot of infosec questions are being asked on other sites on the network
 
@bluefeet You wanna wrestle about it?
I did not think blue feet had a gender.
 
@bluefeet Wait, what? You're a she?
 
@MarkBuffalo Just shoot something to the contact us, explaining and we'll see if there is anything we can do
@Simon I'll pass, thanks though
 
Jesus Christ Markus, every time someone says they're female here, you act like if it's the first time you meet one.
 
@Simon you can't just say that to everyone, dude
 
2:47 PM
@MarkBuffalo yup last I checked
 
@RoryAlsop My rule is that if I can say it to my boss, I can say it to anyone.
 
@bluefeet Check again, you must've made a mistake. Clearly, there are no females in IT
 
@MarkBuffalo you're just assuming the avatar pic is an accurate pic
 
@MarkBuffalo clearly you've work in the wrong places
 
I'm pretty sure @bluefeet is really a bird
A talking bird
 
2:49 PM
@bluefeet as you're not a regular denizen of this room, I'd like to take the opportunity to apologise for some of the more regular denizens here. I'd say they're not as odd as they appear at first, but I'd by lying
 
@MarkBuffalo a third of my team are female. Still lower than target, but better than my company as a whole
 
Yeah I feel bad about joking now, Markus totally pushed it too far.
 
@RoryAlsop Oh, I think we have a few IT girls here
 
@RоryMcCune I've heard all about the denizens in here, so it doesn't surprise me :P
 
ô_ô
 
2:50 PM
@bluefeet cool :) it's nice(?) to hear we're (in)famous
 
@bluefeet For example, @Simon is our resident clown. I am perfectly normal, so obviously @RоryMcCune isn't including me. twitches
 
@MarkBuffalo pls you bumped the weirdness level of this room up by at least 0.4
 
@bluefeet ah, your existence also makes me happy
also spelling things right makes me happy :<
 
For some reason, I'm scared now.
 
@RоryMcCune :<> That seems statistically significant
Especially when there's already a high level of weirdo nerds in here like @Simon
 
2:53 PM
@MarkBuffalo it is quite significant
if @Iszi was here we'd all be stuffed
 
0
Q: Why did Poitras and Greenwald put their batteries in the fridge?

d33tahcnet.com says: Even in Snowden's room, the group took precautions not to be overheard. Greenwald and Poitras would remove the batteries from their mobile phones and put them in refrigerator of Snowden's minibar (...) Is there any security reason they would do that?

 
Wow, I got an email from SE asking for my info + t-shirt size.
That was quick.
 
Dude, I want a t-shirt
 
@Simon lol - you are such a @Simon
 
:D
 
2:56 PM
I can ask them for a t-shirt?
 
@MarkBuffalo did you participate in the last mod-ship election?
 
@MarkBuffalo no - you need to deserve a t-shirt :-)
 
@RоryMcCune I don't... think so.
@RoryAlsop Ouch @RoryAlsop, that cut me deep
It's in the bone
 
damn , Linkedin lost $10b off their market cap. today
 
10 billion?
 
2:58 PM
yep
 
Wow.
 
their stock is down 40% this morning
 
@RоryMcCune what happened
 
@RoryAlsop not great results
 
Man, I'm starting to think Snowden has PTSD-induced paranoia
He's gone full PTSD Clarinet Boy
 
3:00 PM
@RoryAlsop Someone realised that having a bunch of recruiters talking to one another wasn't a good website idea?
 
these companies are selling a growth story 'cause they don't make much money, so as soon as growth slows and they're still not making money, people realise the valuations may just not be valid
 
@RoryAlsop fkin rekt
 
@Matthew LOL. I got added by a recruiter who went and randomly added a bunch of other recruiters, then their contacts, etc.
 
yesterday linkedin was worth $25B ... it's a website, that most people find annoying
 
And all the recruiters were doing it.
I deleted her
 
3:00 PM
I'm going to wear my t-shirt every day and never wash it.
 
@MarkBuffalo urr - wasn't meant to sound harsh. Sorry. I meant you need to have done a thing
 
@RoryAlsop Haha, don't worry. I'm not upset.
Help me to do a thing. How do I do a thing?
 
I'm kind of sad though, I gotta drop the whole t-shirt joke now.
 
@MarkBuffalo i wouldn't be surprised man
@RоryMcCune BURN LINKED IN WITH FIRE
 
COLIIIIINNNNNNNN!
 
3:02 PM
I did several things today. I don't think any of them were t-shirt inducing
 
I'LL GET THE GAS CAN AND THE FLAMETHROWER
 
@ColinCassidy watcha' how's the life of a jet-set ICS Security consultant?
 
@Ohnana Yeah, traumatic events can make you overly paranoid and expect everything possible to go wrong. I don't think anyone in the intelligence community even cares about Snowden anymore. There isn't anything they can do except capture him.
 
Don't worry lads, I'll post a picture of me wearing the t-shirt as soon as I get it.
 
@MarkBuffalo couple that with the fact that sec professionals already have screws loose and you're fucked son
 
3:04 PM
@Ohnana Are you saying I have a few loose screws?
...never mind, don't answer that...
 
:)
 
I have to admit, I've yet to meet a security professional who isn't at least somewhat nutty.
 
You have to be nutty to be into security.
 
OK. I tried with this one, but I don't think they quite got my meaning when I said "make it clear what you're asking"
0
Q: How security labs detecting spreads of malwares and APT threats?

Frdhow security labs detect threads(APT,Botnet,malware ,etc) in different regions around the world ? is security labs have direct access on intenet backbones(ISPs) to alanysing cyber security threats ?

 
@MarkBuffalo what are you implying?
 
3:10 PM
@RoryAlsop You put MUSTARD on your toast. You're the sickest person in here
;)
@Matthew I'm in the process of answering it. This one has me so excited, I feel like a school girl
 
@MarkBuffalo the mustard went on the cheese. The cheese went on the bacon. The bacon went on the toast!
 
@RoryAlsop Everything in here is fine except the mustard
 
There is a place near here that makes cheeseburgers by making two cheese toasties, and putting a burger between them
 
@Matthew ...interesting
 
EWTREYLKJWESRDKLSKTGKGLKK
DELETED THAT QUESTION WHYYYYYYYYYY
I had a huge post typed up
 
3:14 PM
@RoryAlsop mustard on cheese? NSFL
 
@MarkBuffalo I think maybe you are thinking of mustard like I had on my hot dog at lunch. No, I mean mustard powder, like you put in welsh rarebit
 
I even added a Gunther Hermann quote.
@RoryAlsop Do they taste the same?
 
Welsh rarebit (spelling based on folk etymology) or Welsh rabbit (original spelling) is a dish made with a savoury sauce of melted cheese and various other ingredients and served hot, after being poured over slices (or other pieces) of toasted bread, or the hot cheese sauce may be served in a chafing dish like a fondue, accompanied by sliced, toasted bread. The names of the dish originate from 18th-century Great Britain. Welsh rarebit is typically made with Cheddar cheese. == The sauce == Various recipes for Welsh rarebit include the addition of ale, mustard, ground cayenne pepper or ground paprika...
@MarkBuffalo no
 
@Matthew Whycome we are delete this answer m8
 
@MarkBuffalo Wasn't me - I was looking at it one moment, and the next moment it was gone!
 
3:15 PM
I'm crying like the guy who couldn't get the pink mist in that war movie
I think it might've been Full Metal Jacket or something
 
@MarkBuffalo deleted by owner
 
Aww :(
 
@MarkBuffalo I can try asking a random question with bad grammar and which invites opinions and is overly broad, if you want...
 
@Matthew I had no opinions. I was close to posting part of my case study
and I planned on editing his post a bit
Ah, the movie was "Jarhead." This soldier was in the corner crying because he couldn't snipe someone... and the officer called him a nut
Killed the chat again... hangs head in shame
The said hacker already spends his nights on his computer, alone, staring at his bleak screen, looking for vulnerabilities and installing backdoors. How could you possibly punish him any further ? — Tom Leek May 11 '13 at 13:20
lmfaooooo
 
3:46 PM
I hate printers
 
.@getmondo is the best bank because their API RETURNS AN EMOJI FOR EACH TRANSACTION. 😍 https://t.co/uPjDpPry8t
^I'm not sure I'd say that emoji's in bank APIs is something I would've expected
must make their input validation... interesting
 
I've done that before
lol
 
4:02 PM
There is currently 5" of snow outside (ಥ﹏ಥ)
 
Poor dovid.
 
@DavidFreitag TWSS?
 
@Simon Why poor me? I get the day off of work because they don't plow until it's done snowing
I also don't need to shovel
 
... you skip work for 5" of snow?
 
The only problem is I'm stuck at home essentially food-less
 
4:03 PM
Silly non-Canadians.
 
@Simon My car loses traction in light rain
 
@DavidFreitag looooooooool.
I'm joking anyway, 5" is a lot.
4
(If they don't plow)
 
@DavidFreitag Same. Except the Minivan, which seems to handle ice like a champion
@Simon TWSS?
 
@Simon Yeah especially when you consider my car only has 6" of ground clearance
 
Nothing handles ice like a champion unless you're on studded tires.
@DavidFreitag Yeah clearance is indeed the main problem.
 
4:05 PM
Luckily I have a friend with studded tires who is coming with food
 
guys Im drinking this:
holyfuck
 
With a cigar?
 
Eugh coffee
 
it's like beer you can have for breakfast
 
vomits
 
4:06 PM
@LucasKauffman That sounds delicious
 
@LucasKauffman at the cost?
 
@RоryMcCune oh no it's singapore, I can buy a weeks kopi for the price of a bottle
 
@LucasKauffman So... $7? :P
 
@TerryChia probably 9
@TerryChia I've learned many new words in the past weeks
@TerryChia siong, cibai, jialat, pangkang
 
@LucasKauffman All the important words I see.
 
4:12 PM
@TerryChia and I drink The C or Kopi C peng
 
@LucasKauffman what does that lot translate as?
is it all booze?
 
tedious, smelly vagina, "to sap energy" and "end of work"
e
 
@LucasKauffman I honestly shudder to think why you would have to have learned the phrase for "smelly vagina"
 
@RоryMcCune it's a swear word
@RоryMcCune Chao Chee Bai
actually
but yea
it's been fun so far
the projects are amazing
@TerryChia also learned "shiok"
 
@RоryMcCune Chinese swears are uhm, interesting.
Don't ask what niubi is
 
4:25 PM
@MarkBuffalo I' m stealing that
 
@Ohnana hen niu
 
@MarkBuffalo although i question why that also has a meaning of "awesome"
 
@Ohnana Yeah, I don't even want to know
rofl
 
How can you have a MitM attack against a server? It's against the connection between a client and server, surely?
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Q: There might be a man in the middle attack against my server

C RudI have a little $7.20/y VPS, and the fingerprint for the ECDSA key has changed three times on me. This time, it happened shortly after I reinstalled the server (same day, in fact.) I always disable password login, and make sure you can't log in with passwords. After a while, I tried logging into ...

 
Eclipse file search is an abomination
 
4:42 PM
@Matthew it is, but I think he means between his machine and the remote connection for the server (a VPS in this instance)
the host key changing is a bad thing
 
@Ohnana I was wondering about "shortly after reinstalling" - I'd expect the host key to change follow a reinstall
 
@Matthew it would
although "same day" implies that it happened after a successful boot and saving the new host key
i.e: nuking from orbit didn't help
 

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