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9:00 AM
@RоryMcCune ello guv
 
@RoryAlsop Hmm... Old work was about 20 people. New work is about 400 in this building... I don't earn that much!
 
@Matthew you could tell $management that it would be a great morale builder :) especially as Friday is often report day
 
@RоryMcCune ^ this
 
10 hours ago, by Adam Lear
Eh, if you think what they're telling you is condescending because they're "just kids" even though they're adults, you are also being condescending. You get out of relationships what you put into them.
> You get out of relationships what you put into them
sorry, but that's simply clueless
 
@TildalWave So $management would get bacon rolls out of giving us all bacon rolls?
 
9:04 AM
I got nothing out of putting a whole lot into it
 
your name is no longer blue, what did you do
 
and I never asked for much either, just a couple of simple things that were agreed on before I accepted my diamond
 
@Matthew well I'm guessing they would like that (at least in some cases)
 
@TildalWave you have some friends, and a community which regards you with some respect
 
@kalina I have decided that I want you to like me more :P
 
9:05 AM
^ ahaha
 
oh well, mission accomplished x1000
 
:))) + #blush
 
hey @RoryAlsop you realise that at the moment you're @kalina 's least favourite person in the room :op
 
@RоryMcCune :-(
 
@RoryAlsop that won't change unless I somehow disappoint everyone no?
 
9:06 AM
@RoryAlsop and you're a mod of like how many sites now?
 
@RоryMcCune there are several moderators in here and I like most of them less than @RoryAlsop
 
@RоryMcCune erm... 7. Does that make @kalina hate me 7 times as much
@kalina hugs
 
@kalina ahh I was going on active users, the rest of 'em are just lurking
 
@TildalWave I don't think you have disappointed anyone
 
well or sleeping
 
9:08 AM
@TildalWave you obviously weren't happy with the way things worked, that was apparent many months ago
if something makes you unhappy you should take the steps required to fix it, no matter how extreme they may seem
 
@kalina yes, it was... and I blindly believed that things will change for the better
 
War... never changes
 
#Roro will probably remember that my main concern before accepting mod position (well, nomination first) was lack of support in dealing with luddites and alike
 
Morning
 
I was promised support from left and right... right
 
9:11 AM
many would regard me commenting on dealing with luddites as ironic
don't think many of those are in here
but some would
 
#friday
 
@M'vy wait, weren't you a diamond?
 
@TildalWave ahah. Never have been, though I tried :)
 
ah yes, now I remember
yeah, I'm properly old LOL
 
Speaking of this, they don't send goodies for candidates of elections now ?
 
9:14 AM
I got offered tshirts
but opsec
 
@TildalWave I know you've occasionally pinged other mods for support and I hope that has been useful, but did CM's not help out?
 
in fact I've turned down like 4 lots of swag
 
@RoryAlsop you don't wanna know how the last CM intervention ended
 
@kalina I'd have had yours if you'd have put my details in
 
@TildalWave should have asked me, I'd have provided all the support he needed
 
9:15 AM
@TildalWave :-( I guess not :-(
 
@kalina "yes leave the T-Shirts on the old bench next to the park, turn and walk away, do not look back"
 
@M'vy they don't, however they do send graduation swag for top couple of pages, and some other stuff (am expecting my Skeptics swag any day)
 
@RоryMcCune it's a shame because the garish orange movies & TV tshirt would have made a good photo
 
and music swag once the design is done
 
@RoryAlsop let's just say it went from bad to worse, and I could easily have said "told you so" once it was over, but hey, protocol was satisfied
 
9:16 AM
@RoryAlsop well, I guess this is the end of an era :)
 
@TildalWave Really sorry to hear that dude
 
neah it's alright now
 
@kalina yeah I can't wear orange/red , it's black/blue/grey for my T-Shirts
speaking of which I need to try and blag one of $employers cool looking new hoodies
 
@M'vy this was why meta had their big swag bash - swag shop leftovers. You could request stuff, and if you had a good story you got swag. I got a hoodie :-)
It's nice
@RоryMcCune they do look cool
saw a pic somewhere
twitter maybe
 
@RoryAlsop requesting for stuff would defy the principle.
 
9:18 AM
@M'vy Maybe true (but I like my hoodie nonetheless ;-P)
 
@RоryMcCune I don't usually wear orange but I've got a really good tan going on atm so it would be ok
 
@kalina surely blue pony is blue (plus rainbows, obviously)
 
@kalina ahh that maybe the problem, I never have a good tan
 
even blue pony slowly goes crispy under this sun
 
@RоryMcCune surely blue Scotsman is blue
 
9:19 AM
@RoryAlsop If they send me stuff, I gracefully accept. But I don't want to be here for this.
 
@kalina making me a wee bit jealous
 
@RoryAlsop I tend to wear blue
 
@RoryAlsop beach tanning results in tan lines, don't be jealous, I hate my life
 
@M'vy oh yeah, I agree, I don't do SE for the swag...although...
 
@RoryAlsop yeah they had it on the twitters
 
9:20 AM
@kalina now you're just teasing me. I haven't had a tan line for months
 
lol
 
I tell a lie. I can still just see where my surf shorts were in July. Yay - tan line still exists
 
@RоryMcCune New hoodies? Is "the stitching on the pocket of my old one is failing" a good enough reason to get one?
 
@Matthew Ahhh - just figured out who you are. Hello
(sorry - old roro is slow sometimes)
 
@kalina you're somewhere South?
that's why we're evacuating Syria for?
:P
 
9:24 AM
@RoryAlsop I'm me... I'm slightly alarmed if having a hoodie with failing stitching is identifiable!
 
@TildalWave blablabla
 
@Matthew dunno, my attempt is that I'm speaking at a conf. at the end of the month so it would obviously be good advertising for me to be wearing one when I present :)
 
@kalina you didn't answer my question tho
now I'm gonna miss being a mod and ability to simply check your IP and rule out that country :)
which I always thought really helped narrow it down :D
 
@TildalWave half the fun is in the misery mystery...
 
isn't that joy?
 
ha, I watched that cartoon
can't remember what it was called, but I thought it was kinda cute until I fell asleep
 
Inside Out
 
ah yes
 
@Matthew lol - no. I realised from the conversation that you must be the Matthew I have heard of that works for the same org as t'other Rory
not a pic of you with a badly stitched hoodie :-)
@TildalWave her IP always resolved to Des Moines...
 
@RoryAlsop Ah, yes. I'm one of the Matthew's who works for the same organisation as other Rory. This is accurate
 
9:32 AM
lol
I'm obviously an opsec genius
 
@TildalWave my IP address wouldn't help you
I believe my current IP address is in germany
based on the amount of GEMA nonsense I get when browsing youtube
 
@kalina Therefore, by some country's laws, you must be in Germany. Physical location is an illusion
 
but yes I'm properly south
at least until Sunday
now I can use the line "your moderation team is such scum that you even scared away @TildalWave"
 
@kalina moderators or CM's?
 
they're all the same scum
except one is paid
 
9:36 AM
@kalina :-(
 
did I mention that you're not included in my SE hate?
I'm sure I have, like a bazillion times
 
@TildalWave ou don't have a farwell meta post on space-ex ?
 
"Boldly going where no man has gone before... "
 
@kalina well, like I said, it rules one country out, only about 150 left to go
@RoryAlsop not the worst place to be
 
@kalina :-) lol
 
9:42 AM
close to it tho :))
@M'vy nope, because I'm not going anywhere just yet
 
@TildalWave never been there. Was hoping for an invite to the party when @kalina gets her new truck
 
and I'd consider it too melodramatic
 
@TildalWave I should register just to ask: but where is our diamond :)
Kidding I already have a 101 account :)
 
@M'vy oh they'll notice, eventually,... they're not the slowest of people these astronauts you know? :P
 
@TildalWave Yeah, sometime when they'll do the correct fly-over
 
9:45 AM
or an incorrect one
 
hmmm...
 
and there will be no Attitude Determination and Control Officer to correct it
 
Mission control, come-in
mission-control ?
 
I decided to fuck everything up and eat bacon
and succeeded in point (a) because now I feel ill
 
9:49 AM
why? bacon is good for you
 
I have been totally vegan for like 18 months
 
oh yeah I recall something about that
you could fry bacon in peanut butter, that's vegan :)
 
heh.
Other than the bugs? ;p
 
@kalina welcome to the real world
 
@JourneymanGeek now you know why some vegetables are rich in protein :P
 
9:52 AM
(I'm nearly vegan, pretty much my whole life)
 
I was nearly an astronaut, pretty much my whole life
 
Also, its probably the sudden diet change. Army food does terrible things to my system...
and then you took an arrow to the knee?
 
hahaha yes
@JourneymanGeek What does "nearly a vegan" mean? You eat kebabs but you leave the lettuce in?
 
@TildalWave Milk's ok
and milk products
 
that seems reasonable enough
 
9:57 AM
@kalina dammit - now I need to go eat bacon. Luckily - I am wfh today, and there is bacon in the fridge...
 
I needed to wash my face
my lips were covered in bacon juice
and icky
eww
also now my drink tastes weird
 
I don't seem to have the same rabid attachment to bacon some people get. It's nice, but I don't need it
 
-1
A: What attacks, if any, are possible against Security Support Provider Interface (SSPI)?

Jennifer AnistonLENGE. The server responds with a Type 2 message. This contains a list of features supported and agreed upon by the server. Most importantly, however, it contains a challenge generated by the server. NTLM_AUTHENTICATE. The client replies to the challenge with a Type 3 message. This contains sever...

huh? that's just a copy of a part of another answer there
 
@Matthew yeah it's nice at times, but I wouldn't say it was a fav.
 
10:19 AM
cheese and bacon toasties...mmm
well that shut up the DMZ...guessing you're all just jealous of my cheddar and bacon toastie with mustard, and my applewood smoked with bacon and mixed herbs, eh
:-)
 
@RoryAlsop hey no posting food this far before lunchtime!
 
this is breakfast!
 
@RoryAlsop hmm looks like cake
 
that shadow is all wrong :-)
 
@RoryAlsop pfft
and, not necessarily
 
10:28 AM
bacon, cheese and toast looks like cake? When can you adopt me?
 
hmm. You all look rather blurry today.
maybe because I just got back from the eye doctor.
@RoryAlsop lol
 
@AviD what have you had done?
new eyes?
 
heh, naw, just a checkup
seriously even when I zoom in, it looks like a strawberry marble cake. with cream.
 
@RoryAlsop Looks like proper bread too?
 
@JourneymanGeek of course - the kids love seeded brown wholemeal loaves, so that's the only kind we get
 
10:33 AM
Oh god
Yeah, I used to be crazy about the stuff when I was in the UK
I seem to remember it was called a seeded batch loaf tho
 
@JourneymanGeek mmm seeded batch
 
@RоryMcCune yup
 
10:48 AM
(actually, that and pizza oil are about the only things I miss from that time)
Wee. New linux box is up
 
11:12 AM
wife got home from the gym and made her breakfast
leetle bit more healthy...
 
It has fruit.
And maybe tree blood.
Taken from the heart of a living tree
Oh.
FINALLY got my U2F key
 
@JourneymanGeek I got a yubikey neo at Christmas, just have to spend some time getting it setup, think I'll use it for keybase/GPG initially
 
@JourneymanGeek you are right. A living maple
and the pancakes are mostly egg and banana
 
11:37 AM
@RоryMcCune this one's a cheapie github u2f
 
11:48 AM
G'day
Would OpSec questions be considered on topic for Security.SE?
 
@tschoppi In general, my opinion is that they would be
(caveat - I am not a mod :) )
 
@RоryMcCune Okay. I'm just wondering because there isn't a tag for it (or I didn't search exhaustively enough) even though the word turns up in several posts
 
huh, that's a surprise, I'd have thought there would be...
 
12:13 PM
@tschoppi yep
(caveat - I am a mod)
@tschoppi Odd
@tschoppi you can still ask a question despite a tag not existing yet
tags usually come after questions anyway
 
Cool. Still need to research it up, but yeah. Thanks for the intel :)
 
@RoryAlsop BTW on an unrelated moddy note, do you think it might be worth adding a bit to the help or FAQ about not asking questions like "is x secure" without context of "Secure from what/whom"?
 
@RоryMcCune yes. Now, any chance you could quickly create a meta post on it? Gives the community a chance to comment, and CM's visibility of why mods changed things :-)
 
@RoryAlsop sure I'll do something over the weekend, it's like in my top-3 pet hates about questions :)
 
@RoryAlsop POT-SHOTS?!?!
I'd totally take a pot-shot right now if that involves alcohol.
 
12:21 PM
hey @Simon do you pseudo-frenchies still use Circumflexes?
 
Yes.
 
@Simon apparently france is ditching them
 
I thought they decided that they wouldn't?
 
Tl;DR - #JeSuisCirconflexe campaigners fight back against decision by the Académie Française to ‘fix anomalies’ and scrap the circumflex accent
 
As if this was the "worst" anomaly in the language.
Most people here actually can't write French without mistakes.
 
12:24 PM
tsk they should just use english
it would be easier
 
"10 spellings that will change". Nope, fuck you, I'm not converting.
@ThomasPornin LOOK WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO
THOSE MANIACS
 
Maîs pourqoi pà?
xD
 
See, that guy gets it, you can spell everything however the hell you want.
I will also despise you but that's another story.
 
Heh. And also use all the words you want. I go around Paris spouting 'computair' and 'AIDS' instead of the sanctioned francophonized versions
@Simon Oh and I will judge you by your apparent high moral ground.
 
@tschoppi You wanna wrestle?
 
12:28 PM
Bien sûr!
 
@RoryAlsop sdflkasdfkll345rkll2354k
 
@MarkBuffalo really?
are you sure?
lol
 
@RoryAlsop need
I generally hate pancakes, but today I think I can make an exception or 10
 
@MarkBuffalo lol
 
...chedddddddddddddar and bacon toastie, mmmm....
wait. what?
you put mustard on that?
 
12:31 PM
@MarkBuffalo only on one of them - powdered Colmans English mustard
 
An American fantasizing about fast food, I thought I'd never see the day.
 
I don't know the difference between American and Colman's English mustard
but I loathe American mustard. On the other hand mustard tubers are delicious
 
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Q: "Is <x> Secure" Question Anti-Pattern

Rоry McCuneA common problem that I see with questions is that they ask something like "Is secure", which to me is an unanswerable question, the same way as asking "is the city north", it has no meaning in an absolute sense and requires context In order for a question to make sense the asker needs to provi...

^@RoryAlsop what d'ya reckon?
 
@RоryMcCune "is the city north" wot
 
@RоryMcCune I agree
 
12:33 PM
@Simon precisely it makes no sense, just like "is x secure"
 
@RоryMcCune so much for "over the weekend" :-)
 
@RoryAlsop well ya know it was lunchtime, it was a break from report-writing :)
 
@RоryMcCune lol - I like it. Let's give it time to gain comments (I might stick a featured tag on it, as I agree with you: we spend too much time closing exactly this tye of question)
 
so I go out into the living room because it's time to get ready for work
wife fell asleep, and the kids are running around screaming... and putting food everywhere, including on my wife. and they trashed the place
 
@MarkBuffalo lol - oops
 
12:44 PM
baby boy learned to walk. he's big trouble lol
 
Whenever Markus posts that he agrees with something, it makes me want to disagree.
 
If you have a disagreement, present your argument
Speak now or forever hold your donut.
 
My donut is a free human-being and I don't "hold" her.
 
@Simon so no wrestling then?
 
@RоryMcCune That's a different kind of holding.
 
1:04 PM
Hold me, @Simon
 
I don't hold giants, I slay them.
 
roryalsop on February 05, 2016

Elmo asked:

This question comes up time and time again, as people do get upset and angry when their online presence has been attacked, and we have some very simple guidance which will almost always apply:

Terry Chia wrote:

And @TildalWave asked

justausr takes this even further:

Similarly, the other answers mostly discuss the difficulty in identifying the correct perpetrator, and the risks of trying to do something to them.

But Scott Pack‘s answer does provide a little side-step from the generally accepted principles most civilians must follow: …

 
Lunch makes me do silly things - like write up brief blog posts
 
About a question from 2013, hehe.
 
@Simon whatevahhh
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Q: Requests for Question of The Week blog posts

Rory AlsopSince starting the Security Stack Exchange Blog on 15 July 2011 we have some excellent blog posts, and a large number of these are from our Question of the Week posts. Going forwards, it is probably simplest to post your favourite Questions of the week as answers on this question, and vote for yo...

 
1:22 PM
Oh, and this:
 
Nice ween you got there.
 
lol - got delivered this by my eldest while chatting on conf call
 
That's literally the only reason why I'd have kids: slavery.
 
@RoryAlsop hey, i'm having challah sandwich bread toast for breakfast
also i made fresh macaroons last night and had them with homemade ice cream :)
 
that sounds lovely - except for the macaroons. I don't understand them at all
 
1:34 PM
it's fluffy sugar that's baked
 
@Ohnana they taste odd
 
oh gud the meeting that was cocking up my schedule got cancelled
 
@Ohnana yay
it's Friday
 
it was at a good time, they moved it, and now it's just cancelled
yis
 
@Ohnana That made me think of candy floss...
 
1:36 PM
@Matthew candy floss is airspun, macaroons have egg whites for body and stiffness :)
both are raaaaw sugaaaaaar!!!!
 
@Ohnana Don't care. Want candy floss now. SUGAR!
 
@Simon That sounds like a good reason to me.
@RoryAlsop mmmm
 
roro no
 
@Ohnana turkey, cheese, and mayo
 
1:39 PM
@MarkBuffalo Why would you eat a country?
 
@MarkBuffalo do not have turkey... cheese and mayo yes, but i'd rather have a bit of butter
 
@Simon wat, he said he wanted sugar, that song is called sugar!
 
@RоryMcCune I loved the other video for that song
 
@Ohnana Why would you have a country?
 
@RoryAlsop yeah the nathan barnett one was great, the thumbnail was a potentially NSFW tho'
 
1:40 PM
@Simon this one?
 
@RоryMcCune Link the popular Def Leppard song next time.
 
@RоryMcCune oh, yeah
 
@RoryAlsop Much better, yes.
 
@Ohnana I mean I am having that for breakfast. It's the same thing every single day. Breakfast and lunch
 
time to troll the fuck out of onebox
 
1:41 PM
It's been a while, I'll listen to it.
 
@Simon pls like you're old enough to remember Def Leppard
 
I buy food in bulk @ costco and save money this way
 
@MarkBuffalo oh yummy
 
1:42 PM
@Ohnana lulz
 
@Ohnana hahahaha - that made me think Agar.io
I'm assuming that is what it is?
 
@RoryAlsop o pls I don't need more reasons to procrastinate.
 
@RoryAlsop ees polandball
 
Ok yeah System of a Down is a bit too violent for me this morning.
 
Wow... Someone just accepted an answer I wrote on 1st December to their question
 
1:43 PM
@Ohnana rofl
 
@Matthew yay - free rep
s/free/unexpected
 
s/unexpected/yolo
 
@Simon I read that differently
 
Of course you did, you're a monglord.
WEEKEND COME TAKE ME
pulls his pants down and bends over
 
I got a new project this weekend
but I can't afford to work on it t_t
 
1:46 PM
rekt
 
I'm doing a code review for this new guy
He writes beautiful code. I am weeping tears of joy
 
Is it commented and logical?
 
Yeah
And it doesn't even need comments
You can immediately tell what it's doing, and why.
 
OK. You need some salt, a religious text, and a bell. This is not a programmer. This is a demon in human form
3
 
It's logical, commented, it makes sense
He shows what he's doing, and why.... but you don't need to read the comments because it's already clear. It'll be helpful for others, though
 
1:54 PM
I thought something "logical" would imply making sense but ok Markus.
 
@Simon You're an implication.
 
@MarkBuffalo I have a couple of students like that. Barely know what they're doing, but the code is still better than most of the "professional" code I've reviewed.
 
@StackExchange Really good advice
 
Plus, these students are actually willing to improve.
 
o no it's ovid again
 
1:59 PM
@Simon you mean still
 
My Friday was so perfect.
 
@AviD I like that.
 

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