The Comms Room

voretaq7

8:00 PM

@HopelessN00b and we'll see it 50 years from now when it can get through the red tape to be approved here.

sometimes I wish Google Health had succeeded.

Michael Hampton

@NathanC And it's already been patched. Don't you keep your stuff up to date?

cole

@BigHomie because I've seen worse.

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 Yup. Well, I'm still young enough to move to some island in the Pacific where the laws don't suck, and the native chicks don't wear tops.

BigHomie

@HopelessN00b beware of cannibals.

Kevin Soviero

I know I'm not going to make many friends for saying this, but the government does need to protect up from what would happen if there were NO laws protecting our healthcare records...

Nathan C

8:02 PM

@MichaelHampton In my defense, the patch is only a month old (5.5 Update 1)

Michael Hampton

Who's going to protect my health care records from the government?

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Kevin Soviero

@MichaelHampton Do you live in a democratic country?

HopelessN00b

...and we have a winner. I don't want the government to protect me from Google. I want someone to protect me from the fucking government.

3

@KevinSoviero No, he lives in the same country you and I do.

Michael Hampton

@KevinSoviero No, I live in a country ruled by Democrats.

TheCleaner

@voretaq7 I still don't get it...explain...

Kevin Soviero

8:05 PM

@MichaelHampton Better than the alternative

TheCleaner

I get the inner join and full outer, just not the others.

Michael Hampton

@KevinSoviero Which alternative?

Kevin Soviero

@MichaelHampton Being ruled by the right wing

Michael Hampton

@KevinSoviero OK, and the problem with that is?

Ry Jones

@MichaelHampton shhh teenagers know everything bro

voretaq7

8:07 PM

@TheCleaner if the venn diagrams don't work I'm outta explanatins, you'll need a copy of the cow book :)

@HopelessN00b You wanna move to Australia? Everything there is deadly!

Kevin Soviero

@RyJones Belittle your opponent, well that's one way to win an argument...

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 No, the chicks in Australia wear tops. And bras.

@KevinSoviero What argument? All you'd done is assert that being ruled by the left wing is better than being ruled by the right wing. The question of "why" still remains unanswered.

voretaq7

@HopelessN00b not at the beaches apparently :)

Kevin Soviero

@HopelessN00b I'm not going to rehash 30 years of debates and history here, go look it up.

voretaq7

@MichaelHampton you think the government doesn't already have them? :)

Tanner

8:10 PM

@KevinSoviero Do you want left-wing lube or right-wing lube?

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 Musta been hitting the wrong beaches. Besides, every country has nude beaches. (Yes, Canada has nude beaches... if they have nude beaches, every country with a beach does too.)

voretaq7

@KevinSoviero You're still subscribing to the illusion that there's a difference between the psychotic-left and psychotic-right?

Michael Hampton

@KevinSoviero "Go look it up" is no way to win an argument either.

HopelessN00b

@KevinSoviero That's pretty amusing, actually. I was a history major (among other things).

Maybe try a different argument from authority.

voretaq7

The problem is neither half of the spectrum is interested in FUCKING GOVERNING they just both want to beat the other guy

Basil

8:10 PM

Here's the way to win all arguments: CANADA

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Kevin Soviero

@voretaq7 Left and right leaders, your correct, but left and right ideology is very different by definition.

freiheit

@HopelessN00b It's possible that Saudi Arabia doesn't have any nude beaches...

Ry Jones

@HopelessN00b the nude beaches on the Puget Sound are all on sharp rocks, too, totally uncomfortable

BigHomie

Can regular users create chats to keep from extended comments, before being prompted by the bot?

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 Not quite, but close. Each side is interested in their own gain.

Kevin Soviero

8:11 PM

@HopelessN00b Not an argument from authority, I didn't point at an authority who agrees with me. It's an argument from laziness.

voretaq7

@KevinSoviero it doesn't matter, because all we have are ideologues so nothing gets done and everything gets steadily worse

cf: decodedc.com/home/2014/4/11/repost-episode-15-whats-wrong.html

HopelessN00b

@KevinSoviero All depends on your perspective. From mine, left and right are two sides of the same coin. You're either libertarian or authoritarian. And you can divide that into social and fiscal spheres if you wish, but both the left and right are authoritarian ideologies. Not very different at all.

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Wesley

@voretaq7 I'm an idealog! I lay here like a log and come up with great ideas, but never get around to doing anything about them.

voretaq7

the system is supposed to work because nobody gets their way and a reasonable compromise is forced on everyone. Instead nobody gets their way and they actively sabotage any attempt at compromise so the government just slowly fails.

Basil

Best part about Canada? Aside from opinions about some mostly irrelevant issues that people choose their government based on, both mainline parties are basically indistinguishable from each other. They both pay down debt, fund health care, and generally govern as well as they can.

voretaq7

8:13 PM

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Wesley

@Basil Can I come up and visit?

HopelessN00b

@voretaq7 Yeah. Enough of that shit. Sabotage it better so it fails faster, FFS.

Basil

Conservatives have had a majority for the last few terms. STILL NO NEW LAWS ABOUT ABORTION

Kevin Soviero

@HopelessN00b Not quite you can be left-libertarian, right-libertarian, left-authoritarian, and right-authoritarian. I'm left-libertarian.

Basil

@Wesley no. We have enough cats. Also, we all bike up here.

TheCleaner

8:14 PM

@voretaq7 ROFL...ok fine!

HopelessN00b

@KevinSoviero If you say so. You sure don't sound like it though.

MDMarra

The problem is that moderates are boring, conservatives have never been so great with social issues, and liberals have never been so great with...well...money

Wesley

@Basil okayface.tiff

MDMarra

so there's always something wrong with someone

voretaq7

@TheCleaner amazon.com/Database-Management-Systems-Raghu-Ramakrishnan/dp/…

Seriously. it's a book with cows on the cover.

Wesley

8:15 PM

@voretaq7 Id read that if for no other reason than cows.

voretaq7

I've no idea what cows have to do with databases

but.... cows.

Basil

@MDMarra The Canadian Liberals balanced the budget. Cut health care and education to do it. Gave us something like half a decade of surpluses!

voretaq7

it's not like there are cow pictures in the book

or an animated cow walks you through the fundamentals of relational algebra

BigHomie

@voretaq7 They make great burgers when you join them with ketchup and mustard.

HopelessN00b

@MDMarra ..and for some reason the "fuck off, leave me alone, and my mind your own business" idea never seems to get any lasting traction.

voretaq7

8:16 PM

Mustard? What are you from Jersey or something?!

TheCleaner

@voretaq7 cow sniffing coffee...sounds legit.

Wesley

@voretaq7 Cows are like modern relational databases. Huge, robust, multiple compartments to hold things, and capable of ejecting an enormous amount of shit when you least want it.

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BigHomie

@voretaq7 are you saying only people from Jersey like mustard?

HopelessN00b

"Freedom means responsibility and that is why most men shun it." - George Bernard Shaw

Nathan C

Annnnnnd down again

voretaq7

8:17 PM

@BigHomie on burgers? Yes.

freiheit

Wesley

Apologies to Gene Spafford for bastardizing his quote about Usernet:

Nathan C

Twice in the past hour...oi

Wesley

" Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it. " --Gene Spafford

Ry Jones

amazon.com/Joe-Celkos-Smarties-Fourth-Edition/dp/0123820227

voretaq7

8:17 PM

@Wesley the next time someone asks me "Why cows" I'm giving that answer.

freiheit

Don't forget about the cow fart backpack option

Wesley

@freiheit See, when I fart in a backpack I just get dirty looks.

BigHomie

@voretaq7 haha no sir, I'm from the land of Faygo

MDMarra

@HopelessN00b Well, in the current political climate the "fuck off and leave me alone" party are the republicans, who are the same ones trying to overturn Roe and legislate marriage.

I know not all of them are like that

freiheit

@Wesley You're only supposed to fart into the backpack you're wearing. If you fart into somebody else's backpack and shove their head into it, you're being so rude that Canada would expel you.

MDMarra

8:20 PM

But it's enough that it makes the "keep gov't out of my life" message appear to be "keep govt out of my life unless it's something I disagree with that my neighbor is doing"

Wesley

@MDMarra "Freedom for the masses (unless your house blocks my sunset view.)"

HopelessN00b

@MDMarra Well, legislating marriage (and drug laws and immigration and... well, you get the point) is basically the opposite of "fuck off, leave me alone, and mind your own business." So, the problem would be that there's no party (of significant size and influence) representing that interest.

MDMarra

This is true. I was commenting on the two realistic options that we currently have

When you buy an island and secede, let a brotha know

Michael Hampton

@HopelessN00b Heh. Our strategy here is "take over both parties"...

HopelessN00b

@MDMarra Heh. Somehow I don't think that's the type of thing I'll live long enough to announce to anyone.

Kevin Soviero

8:23 PM

@HopelessN00b Text book liberals would be the closest, they way we see it is that if it doesn't hurt others directly, then you should be allowed to do it.

MDMarra

@Basil I recently discovered that I have a significant canadian herritage. I was raised to believe I was half Irish and half Italian, but it turns out the Irish folks took a 10 generation pit stop in good-old America's Hat.

Tanner

@KevinSoviero Except little things like our entire healthcare system were determined to directly hurt others.

Kevin Soviero

@Tanner Hm?

Basil

@MDMarra Are you prone to unexplained bouts of politeness?

HopelessN00b

@KevinSoviero Well, that's a) a very recent textbook you must have and b) completely untrue. The liberals are also for mandatory governmet regulation of [almost] everything, which restricts my freedom to enter into mutually-agreed upon contracts, even where no one is harmed.

Kevin Soviero

8:25 PM

Here is a nice little description from lp.org: Liberals usually embrace freedom of choice in personal matters, but tend to support significant government control of the economy. They generally support a government-funded "safety net" to help the disadvantaged, and advocate strict regulation of business. Liberals tend to favor environmental regulations, defend civil liberties and free expression, support government action to promote equality, and tolerate diverse lifestyles.

HopelessN00b

(FDA, USDA, FCC, ATF, etc.)

Michael Hampton

Except when they don't, which is lately.

HopelessN00b

@KevinSoviero Ah, a flattering self-description of liberalism. Yes, that's most objective and unbiased. :/

MDMarra

@Basil Lately, yes. But I think it's just because work makes me too tired to want to argue with people.

Kevin Soviero

@HopelessN00b I say textbooks to distinguish from limousine liberals.

Basil

8:26 PM

@MDMarra Fondness for maple?

Kevin Soviero

@HopelessN00b That's from the libertarian party's website...

MDMarra

@Basil Yes, but Vermont maple. And I prefer real bacon to ham steaks.

I'm walking a fine line, I think.

HopelessN00b

@KevinSoviero And True Scotsmen? How are we to distinguish them?

Michael Hampton

A TRUE Scotsman wears nothing under his kilt!

Basil

@MDMarra We don't actually have much Canadian Bacon up here. Any time you ask for bacon, you get regular bacon. And Psh, Vermont? Bunch of hosers.

freiheit

8:28 PM

@Basil Maple syrup is the only kind worth bothering with.

Basil

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HopelessN00b

@Basil Not even giving a reacharound. What an inconsiderate country.

voretaq7

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Wesley

@voretaq7 54' 40" or fight!

It's not too late for that, right?

Can we storm Vancouver?

voretaq7

@Wesley can we wait until summer?

Ry Jones

8:33 PM

@Wesley do whatever you like

voretaq7

It's COLD in Canadia

Basil

@voretaq7 It was below freezing this morning.

MDMarra

@Wesley do you have a bike yet?

Last we talked, you had 1/3 of a bike and a prayer

Wesley

@MDMarra Using an old bike while I get the Surly built. Close enough.

Dan

Could someone do me a favour

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Q: How do you handle co-workers that want to converse with you in the bathroom?

I find that when I am in the bathroom I want to get in and out. I don't mind a simple "Hi" or "How's it going?" when I wash my hands but some co-workers step over this line. I have had managers talk to me while in a stall and other coworkers having a "normal" conversation with me while I am in ...

professionalism

MDMarra

8:43 PM

Biker's gonna bike

Dan

Add my answer to the above: "Stare at his penis. He'll stop."

BigHomie

@Dan that's actually not a bad question, some people are pretty chatty when in the john

and some people aren't.

Michael Hampton

@Dan I think that's a question for @ewwhite

voretaq7

@Dan ...if they don't stop now you have a REAL problem

Dan

@BigHomie It's not, and it's a horrible thing. I do think it's generally rare, though

@voretaq7 And a new boyfriend

Wesley

8:45 PM

@Dan I don't mind urinal chatting.

I find it weird that he's weirded out by it. Like "where is your mind, social-phobic freak."

Dan

@Wesley Really? I can't stand it. Bathrooms should be silent, with the exception of the occasional "excuse me" in busy ones

Wesley

But I'm also a judgmental asshole.

BigHomie

@Wesley maybe a little, as long as nobody slaps me on the shoulder when they're done.

Wesley

@BigHomie Right, ass slaps only. makes note

BigHomie

no touching period

Wesley

8:46 PM

@BigHomie Stall chatting can be fun too. "HEY GEORGE HOW HIGH A SPLASH YOU THINK I CAN GET?!"

freiheit

Dan

I once got drunk and stayed in the bathroom for 40 minutes until my best mate came. No idea what was doing - I remember the visit quite well, except in my head I had a piss and washed my hands before getting asked about my health by my friend

Then I was sick

Kevin Soviero

As of Sunday I can drink...

freiheit

@KevinSoviero How long did you have to go without drinking? How can you sysadmin without booze?

BigHomie

@freiheit yeah exactly, but that would warrant violence in a men's bathroom

Kevin Soviero

8:49 PM

@freiheit Since I was born...

MikeyB

@Basil Actually... check out Halifax.

freiheit

@KevinSoviero You just turned 21?

Kevin Soviero

@freiheit yup

BigHomie

any droid folks use this play.google.com/store/apps/…

freiheit

@KevinSoviero "can" and "legally allowed to" are very different things. :)

voretaq7

8:50 PM

@Dan I had a boss once who threatened to urinate on people's shoes if they made a habit of starting up urinal conversations and couldn't take the "Let's talk about this in 5 minutes" hint. Perhaps a little uncouth, but it was very effective - I never had the guts to ask him if he ever had to follow through on the threat.

@Dan ...are your co-workers cute? :)

Kevin Soviero

@freiheit Not to me

MDMarra

@ewwhite got HP into his last job while dickchatting the CEO in the men's room, if memory serves.

Dan

@voretaq7 I'm jobless at the minute, so it's just me. So....yeah, come on round

voretaq7

@Wesley @Dan I don't mind urinal chatting, but the mens room is NOT an appropriate place for a design/sales/engineering meeting...

Joel E Salas

@Basil ... You're right, damn it.

Dan

8:51 PM

@voretaq7 What about if you're designing, building and selling a urinal?

voretaq7

@Dan raar!

Shane Madden

@MDMarra Not that it turned out terribly well after that - revenge of the supermicros.

voretaq7

@Dan Those are pretty standard components, your plumber can figure it out. Unless your staff is going to piss-test all of the models, that might be the one acceptable exception :)

Basil

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A: How do you handle co-workers that want to converse with you in the bathroom?

It's normal like chewing with your mouth open. Half the people you meet don't see anything wrong with it, the other half are grinding their teeth but too polite to complain. I handle this by embracing the idea of talking in the bathroom but showing them why it's weird, all at once: "Hey, isn't i...

MDMarra

Soupermicro. Campbell's tomato soupermicro

voretaq7

8:52 PM

"Well number 3 looks nice, but I got back-splatter all over my shoes!"

Wesley

@MDMarra Dickchat? Hmm... on an unrelated note, anyone know of a good mobile app development course I can enroll in within the hour?

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Joel E Salas

@Wesley lol how did you go from devops to mobile

Wesley

@JoelESalas Alls fare in devops and dickpics.

MikeyB

@Wesley Just ask on SO how to develop a mobile app.

Dan

@Basil I prefer "Please don't talk to me - I find peeing with an erection difficult"

voretaq7

8:53 PM

@Wesley dickops and devpics?

BigHomie

@Wesley What platform?

voretaq7

@Dan "We can keep having this conversation, but if you startle me and I turn to face you you're going to get wet. You OK with that?"

Dan

@Wesley I don't, but something like IntelXDK might do if you just want to do some RAD type shit

Wesley

@MikeyB "I would like to make a Snapchat clone with a Grindr flare. Plz to be sharing codez."

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@BigHomie Gotta start iOS, then move to Android.

Basil

@Wesley if I ever get VC funding to make something of value, I'm totally asking "how to xyz" on stackexchange, then paying someone to answer me.

voretaq7

8:56 PM

@Basil "Start by having a design conversation around the urinal..."

Kevin Soviero

I have an idea for a product I want to build quite badly and that I know would do well, however the reason I haven't done it yet is the same reason no one else has: It's extremely expensive to start up.

MikeyB

@Basil This needs to be a question on Workplace. "My co-workers are reluctant to talk to me. What is the best way to approach starting a conversation while occupied at a urinal?"

Basil

@KevinSoviero The secret behind products is that it's rarely the design or quality that determines its success, but the personalities and charisma of the people building/selling it that do.

@MikeyB DO EET

Kevin Soviero

@Basil I agree, but it's still an expensive product to build.

Dan

@Basil Did I ever tell the room about the time I basically built Dropbox years before :(

(I did, but I'm still bitter)

Wesley

8:59 PM

@Dan Did you also build in terrible security practices and NSA backdoors? Sweet!

BigHomie

@Wesley start with this or this and then follow it up with this

Basil

I paid to have a website built that would show you a map of events on now or soon in your area in 2004

Dan

@Wesley It was in PHP, so obviously

Basil

Before google maps was that useful

Wesley

@Dan Pretty Horrible Parsing

Basil

8:59 PM

Anyways, no product "sells itself"

voretaq7

@Wesley Dan's an OpenSSL developer?

Wesley

@BigHomie Objective C sucks enough to scare me off from any mobile development.

Basil

It's sold by entrepreneurs and the VCs that are invested in their success.

voretaq7

@Wesley Objectionable C

Wesley

@voretaq7 No, he's still at RSA

voretaq7

9:00 PM

@Basil salesmen do!

Basil

Anyhoo, I'm going to go home and pee. See you guys tomorrow.

voretaq7

@Basil that's one way to avoid awkward urinal conversations!

Wesley

@Basil Call me when you start peeing!

Basil

@Wesley always do!

Shane Madden

@Wesley Java it is, then?

Wesley

9:01 PM

@Basil Foursquare it so I know where you are.

Kevin Soviero

I always do everything to avoid going to a public restroom, including very painful drives home.

Basil

@Wesley I'm the mayor of peeing at my house

Wesley

"Wesley is Mayor of Basil's bathroom!"

Basil

@KevinSoviero n00b can't poopsock

Kevin Soviero

@Basil I'm not even going to ask.

Basil

9:02 PM

god damn it people, stop being so entertaining. Bye.

Wesley

Am I the only one that likes public bathrooms?

Kevin Soviero

@Wesley Yes.

Wesley

I mean really, I don't have to clean it up, so it doesn't matter WHAT I eat for lunch.

Kevin Soviero

@Wesley Now that's thinking of your fellow man!

Wesley

@KevinSoviero Thinking of your fellow man is for lib-oo-rals. I'm Libertarian! LIVE FREE, POOP FREE!!

HopelessN00b

9:16 PM

@Dan Can't believe no one took the direct approach as an answer to that yet. Never fear, I have no qualms about speaking of my penis in public.

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A: How do you handle co-workers that want to converse with you in the bathroom?

The blunt and direct approach is the one I favor, and it works wonders for me. "Uh... I'd really prefer to talk about this when I don't have a hand on my penis, if you don't mind." Usually it gets a chuckle, occasionally it gets an ~"oh, of course," but it always ends the conversation, and no o...

ewwhite

I like urinal-chat.

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Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Oh god you're a piss-talker aren't you

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite It's not that I have a problem with conversing in the bathroom, it's just that the women scream and call the cops when I try it. :(

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ewwhite

1

Q: kvm hypervisor kernel panic

My kvm hypervisor had been running with 20+ vps guests for a few months. But a few days ago it went to kernel panic. There were no abnormal operation that I found would cause the problem, except that the hypervisor was deleting a guest and shrubbing the corresponding logical volume at the time. I...

kvm-virtualization kernel kernel-panic hypervisor

And you see how far the bathroom talk got me. Unemployed and disgraced.

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite I thought it was the wanting-to-do-things-right that got you unemployed and disgraced. Really, one shameful habit at a time, man!

ewwhite

9:24 PM

:(

It's sad to be considered toxic

MDMarra

Isn't that a Britney Spears song?

ewwhite

Yes.

But I keep thinking about slave

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite dat interview

ewwhite

I'm sitting and typing from a cemetery in the middle of a super-wealthy suburb of Chicago. Odd scenery.

voretaq7

@JoelESalas No he just likes discussing the comparative benefits of different urinals :)

ewwhite

9:28 PM

Waiting for a conference call.

Sitting on my bike.

Because @iain told me to ride.

Also, client just emailed and said that he can't get to Facebook.com, and that it's an emergency!!!

voretaq7

@ewwhite I'll sound the fire alarm. By lighting your client on fire.

Magellan

@ewwhite you charge extra for emergencies, right?

HopelessN00b

@Magellan Heh. "Emergency access to Facebook.com - $400/hr"

ewwhite

I'm on the bike. So... I told him to turn the Barracuda Web Filter off.

voretaq7

@ewwhite I upgraded your Barracuda

Magellan

9:34 PM

@voretaq7 To the bitey kind?

voretaq7

Lamprey 2.0 -- Go ahead, download that porn. See what happens.

ewwhite

Being the IT guy and wanting to lead a normal life are difficult to do.

I gained 7 pounds in Portland and Seattle. Must work it off.

Magellan

@ewwhite What the hell did you eat in this town to gain 7 pounds?

Wesley

@Magellan He killed a hooker and ate her liver.

Magellan

@Wesley Oh. See, that's just tacky nowadays. Gary Redway already covered that cultural niche.

Wesley

9:38 PM

@Magellan *Ridgeway

One of my hobbies is studying serial killers. Not sure why.

That might say something about me.

Magellan

yeah, whatever. I worked across the street the courthouse during his trial.

ewwhite

@magellan um... Lots of potatoes in fries-form.

Wesley

@Magellan You have a room I could rent if I made it to Code Fellows? =P

I don't scratch furniture and always poop in a box.

Magellan

@ewwhite silly man. This is Seattle, you should've consumed nothing but coffee and fish/seafood.

@Wesley unfortunately our house is a little full. 1000 ft^2 and 4 people in it with 2 additional every 2nd weekend.

Jacob

@Magellan Have a 10 ft ^2 in a basement?

I'm sure he could fit in that.

Michael Hampton

9:47 PM

Gawd. My phone is ringing off the hook with wrong numbers today.

Magellan

@Jacob WW2-era housing. just a crawlspace

Jacob

@Magellan That'l do it.

Magellan

@Wesley amusingly, got an email from a recruiter at classmates. 18 months and 3 jobs after I last spoke with them.

Wesley

@Magellan Tool boxes.

Magellan

@Wesley I'm thinking they must be desperate.

time to run off to a meeting. bbl gents.

Wesley

9:49 PM

@Magellan Toodles

Anonymous

@Wesley i'm never taking my hat off

Anonymous

no matter what you say

Jacob

Oh I have a photo for you. I call it "Firefox sucks"

Michael Hampton

What are you doing to that poor web browser?

faker

at least it's 32bit, so there is a hard memory limit for it

Anonymous

10:00 PM

@Jacob it's called: firefox uses the memory you give it

Jacob

@PatoSáinz UMm what?

Wesley

@MichaelHampton eight gigabutts of streaming cam girls. Also, livestock fetish.

Michael Hampton

So one of my several toll-free numbers is apparently one digit off from the GSA's vehicle repair hotline. I'm getting calls from people with broken down government vehicles... not fun.

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Why do you have toll free numbers?

Michael Hampton

And one guy who thought he was calling the AARP. I have no idea what he was on.

Jacob

10:04 PM

@MichaelHampton Oh You can also pay us with gift cards through paygarden.com

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson Because I can :)

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Can't argue with logic like that

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson It looks more professional?

Wesley

@MarkHenderson I have a toll free too.

Michael Hampton

Oh, and I can send text messages from them, too!

Mark Henderson

10:06 PM

@Wesley headrub

Wesley

@MarkHenderson earscritch

Mark Henderson

Don't they cost heaps of money?

Jacob

@MarkHenderson Not really anymore.

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Like $40 to claim it and then $12 a month through Grasshopper.

Mark Henderson

They are here

Michael Hampton

10:07 PM

@MarkHenderson Not when it's VoIP.

Wesley

And invalid flags!

Mark Henderson

We have a 1300 number (which is the cost of a local call anywhere in the country) which terminates at our SIP trunk and it's like $150/year + call costs

1800's are even more

Jacob

@MarkHenderson "Everything is expensive in Australia."

Joel E Salas

If I have a beer right now I'll probably pass out

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Technically it's a 1-844 number

Michael Hampton

10:08 PM

@MarkHenderson I'm paying $1.49 a month plus 1.9 cents a minute. And free SMS.

freiheit

@JoelESalas So, wine, then?

Jacob

@Wesley Well there are several toll free codes these days. 800 844 888

Michael Hampton

And they're all vanity numbers too.

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Not bad

Wesley

@MarkHenderson I'd have you call mine but it's forwarding to a virtual attendant at the moment so you can't hear my beautiful voice.

Mark Henderson

10:13 PM

@Wesley Uhhh that's ok. I will just listen to the audio from the camera I have in your bathroom.

Joel E Salas

@freiheit i'm thinking whiskey

Michael Hampton

Oh wow, I can get VoIP numbers in Australia now. No idea why I'd want one though.

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Or you could facetime me like we used to when we were dating =(

freiheit

@JoelESalas mmmm.... whiskey...

Jacob

@MarkHenderson So this TV is actually rather interesting.

Mark Henderson

10:14 PM

@Wesley Oh yeah

Or that

@Jacob Which one?

Are you still watching Sea Patrol?

Jacob

@MarkHenderson Sea Patrol.

Yep

Wesley

@MarkHenderson ARE YOU ON WHATSAPP?

Dammit capslock

Mark Henderson

@Wesley What...s...what? No.

Wesley

@MarkHenderson Lamer.

Mark Henderson

Yeah that's me

I'm just as lame now as I was in highschool. Thanks for reminding me.

Jacob

10:16 PM

@MarkHenderson I mean that banana TV show, looked a little to complicated for me to follow.

:)

Mark Henderson

@Jacob Yeah pretty complex story arcs in that one

I'm fairly sure that Rat is actually a CIA mole working to undermine the Bananas involvement in the free trade agreement with China

That's why he's always pretending to be incompetent and needs saving/rescuing/teaching a lesson, taking away valuable negotiating time from the Bananas

Jacob

@MarkHenderson I haven't even watched it, I was basing that off the photo I saw.

Mark Henderson

@Jacob Well it's a great goepolitical thriller

Shane Madden

@Wesley Wait, people actually use that?

Mark Henderson

Covers issues such as Who Stole the Jelly (aka North Korea versus the Capitalist Pigs who Steal Jelly), who gets to play the big bad wolf in the 3 little pigs play (aka How The USA And Her Allies bully the east) and other thrilling tales such as Bananas go to the Beach (to spy on the great state of North Korea of course)

The only person in Cuddles Town who has a job is Rat (the capitalist pig who runs the local store). Everyone else trades favours and jelly cakes for what they need done. It is a utopian socialist society except for Rat who is always trying to rip everyone off.

Ry Jones

10:27 PM

wtf are you on about?

Mark Henderson

@RyJones Bananas in Pyjamas

Tanner

@MarkHenderson Ugh. So glad the kid got bored of that one...

Also Thomas the Tank Engine. Fucking communists...

Ry Jones

that looks awesome

HopelessN00b

Oh my God, Hell has frozen over... and yet it's fairly warm out... so much for my theory about hell being in Central Ohio.

Magellan

@HopelessN00b And much sooner than 6**8 weeks.

Wesley

10:41 PM

@ShaneMadden Whatsapp? Yeah, it's great.

@HopelessN00b Pretty sure hell is just Ohio as a whole.

Shane Madden

@Wesley I just had never heard of anyone I actually know using it, just that it had a quadrillion users apparently when the book of faces bought it.

Michael Hampton

@Magellan Actually I think it took much longer than 6-8 weeks...

@Wesley No, Hell is in Michigan, but Ohio is pretty close.

HopelessN00b

@ShaneMadden Yeah, this shit is really depressing. Missed my chance to be a BitCoin millionaire, missed my chance to sell a simple webapp to $[search or social media company] for 2 billion dollars... and with people carrying around duffel bags of $100 bills less and less these days, I'm strating to think I may be stuck working for a living. :(

Mark Henderson

@Tanner They are Australian royalty

Fuck the Windsor family, Bananas in Pyjamas for our monarchy!

@HopelessN00b I missed BitCoin too. I remember my friend was all "Let's mine this! I'm getting like 1BTC per day!"

And was like "nah fuck that, my power bills will be too high if I leave my computer on"

HopelessN00b

@MarkHenderson Yeah, and I had to do the math and figure out that the electricity was worth more than the BTCs.

Mark Henderson

10:56 PM

@HopelessN00b Except, now they're not

Jacob

@MarkHenderson My boss had several hundred on a drive he formatted.

HopelessN00b

"Nah, BTC's are never gonna be worth more than $10.... it takes 25,000 of them to buy a pizza."

D'oh.

Mark Henderson

Don't worry it won't last. In a few years we'll either by crying into our pillows as our banks rape us for our next mortgage payment, or we'll be laughing at everyone that has custom ASIC miners that are worthless

Anonymous

@HopelessN00b did you say frozen?

HopelessN00b

@MarkHenderson Oh, right, no way it'll last. If I'd had any, they'd all have been converted to something else (gold, currency) back when it was around $800-$1200/BTC. Still, a missed opportunity, even when the bubble does burst.

Mark Henderson

10:58 PM

@HopelessN00b Yep

Except if everyone cashed in the bubble would burst quicker

HopelessN00b

@PatoSáinz Yeah, English idiom. When pigs fly/when hell freezes over - ways of saying something will never happen. Like the MSO/MSE split that they're actually doing right now.

Anonymous

@HopelessN00b I meant the movie

HopelessN00b

@MarkHenderson So? I still cash out, and then the bubble bursting wouldn't bother me.

Mark Henderson

@HopelessN00b You just need to make sure you'r cashing out at the beginning of the burst, not the end

Anonymous

Watched it like two days ago with my niece, it was time for Disney to put out a decent animated musical flick without Pixar's help

HopelessN00b

10:59 PM

@PatoSáinz Oh. Not all that up on pop culture these days, given how much it sucks lately.

Jacob

Everyone knows that best practice is deploying all new code on fridays.

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