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kce
kce
5:01 PM
@Basil - I threw my two cents in as well. Thanks againf or the awesome answer...
 
Basil
Basil
@kce Any time :)
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
@Iain That day was my first strava recording.
 
Basil
Basil
@kce Also, because the Netapp snapshots are API compliant, you can make the applications Netapp aware. We have Netbackup using snapshots for its backups, for example
Same with SQL
 
kce
kce
@Basil - Meaning you do whatever it takes within the operating system to make your application happy and then make the snapshot via ZAPI?
 
Iain
Iain
@Skyhawk :( Want to join the SF Strava group ?
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
5:05 PM
@Iain It's cute since you can see the crash followed by the ambulance ride. Unfortunately, mobile device didn't come on the helicopter with me. (Nor wallet, nor keys.)
@Iain Sure.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@Iain I was thinking about making a sysadmin strava group.
 
Iain
Iain
@Skyhawk What's your account name ?
 
Wesley
Wesley
@Iain "1HandsomeMofo@strava.com"
 
Iain
Iain
@Wesley do it
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
@Iain checking
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
5:07 PM
@Iain no!
 
Iain
Iain
@ewwhite I know you don't you ignored my invite :(
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
@Iain I appear to show up simply as Miles Erickson.
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
@Iain Oh, I just don't ride anymore: Because: ghetto
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
@ewwhite Ever since you met that unicorn.
 
MikeyB
MikeyB
@mfinni thanks dude - perfect for what I needed
 
mfinni
mfinni
5:10 PM
@MikeyB sweet!
 
Iain
Iain
@ewwhite I thought it was because: winter but now it's spring so get off your fat arse ...
 
freiheit
freiheit
@ewwhite So pick up a ghetto-appropriate bike and get out and fucking ride
2
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
It's spring? Could have fooled me... someone really ought to mention it to the coldfront that moved into the area.
 
Wesley
Wesley
gloats
 
freiheit
freiheit
@HopelessN00b Last week it was summer. This week is spring again.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
5:12 PM
@HopelessN00b You have a problem with snow in April? Talk to the groundhog punk.
@freiheit . . . I'm envisioning something Death Race style
 
Wesley
Wesley
@voretaq7 Foamy's under-achieving, passive aggressive cousin?
 
Nathan C
Nathan C
@Wesley There was snow on the ground here this morning....
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
@Iain It snowed last night
 
Wesley
Wesley
I can't even spell snow.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@Wesley The beneficiary of my weather induced rage.
 
freiheit
freiheit
5:13 PM
@voretaq7 Nah, 80s singlespeed with an ugly paintjob and a lock that weighs more than the bike is generally ghetto enough...
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
No wait, not beneficiary. The other one. Oh what's the word.... VICTIM! Yes, that's it. The victim of my weather induced rage.
@freiheit . . . a lock that weighs more than an 80s fixie? So....
 
Wesley
Wesley
@voretaq7 Move to Arizona. Get some sun, buy a gun, and have some fun.
 
Iain
Iain
@ewwhite bummer
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
But I'm going to go cash some checks, then take my bike to the suburbs for a ride
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
One of those, @freiheit?
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
5:14 PM
@Iain it was 70+ degrees saturday and sunday here... then snow
 
Chris S
Chris S
This coming weekend it'll be in the 60s here. Heat wave!
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@Wesley I don't want skin cancer
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
This is Global Warming, right?
 
Wesley
Wesley
@voretaq7 Shoot a republican and wear their skin. Guaranteed SPF 45+
 
kce
kce
Anyone else work or have worked at a "startup" or SMB?
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
5:15 PM
@kce maybe
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@ewwhite Because of Stupid Right Wingers we call it "climate change" now (because they don't seem to understand that "global warming" means "Fucked up weather patterns, sometimes more snow, sometimes more deserts"
 
Chris S
Chris S
No startups, I would call this place a small-ish business.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@voretaq7 I don't talk to groundhogs, I poison them. Freaking pests.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@kce If by startup you mean "Faux business terminally incapable of making enough money to pay people so they hand out equity like candy on Halloween" then yes.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@kce I've worked at pretty much everything. Wanna know the secret? They all suck.
 
Wesley
Wesley
5:16 PM
@voretaq7 It's just a matter of where you want the blood blister and if teeth are involved.
 
freiheit
freiheit
@voretaq7 Nah, you need something you can beat people with more easily. :)
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
(The ones you start and run yourself suck the most - not because everything is done wrong, but because making sure it's getting done right is a soul-killing experience)
 
kce
kce
How long do you "discovery"? I mean how long do you wait before you start pushing for infrastructure changes? We have way to much XP but I don't want to come off like I'm the new sheriff in town.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@kce XP? Mention it immediately
 
Chris S
Chris S
@voretaq7 In fairness the plant goes through warming and cooling phases; this is far from the most green house gasses ever in the atmosphere; and the "damage" we're doing is almost guaranteed to fix itself over the next few hundred thousand years, maybe a few million at the most.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
5:17 PM
Anything else? 3 months.
@ChrisS that's predicated on us, ya know, stopping....
 
Wesley
Wesley
@kce Anything out of service and easily exploitable gets an immediate "Hey guys, I reformatted everything yesterday" =P
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
or going extinct
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
 
Basil
Basil
@kce Meaning some applications have backup modes that support storage snapshots. Just plug in what it needs to issue the command and access its snapshot, and it'll be as application consistent as it gets
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
if humanity goes extinct a lot of problems are solved.
 
freiheit
freiheit
5:18 PM
@ChrisS Well, sure, when we kill ourselves off, the carbon should start slowly getting bound up again.... :)
 
Wesley
Wesley
@voretaq7 Like long lines at the ATM.
 
Chris S
Chris S
@voretaq7 We'll run out of Fossil fuels by then.
 
kce
kce
@voretaq7 - That was about my timeline as well. Business has expanded but I don't know if their IT infrastructure has expanded to match it. Practices that make sense when you have 30 employees don't when you have 120.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@kce You changed jobs?
 
kce
kce
@Wesley - Like a mercenary, yes.
 
Basil
Basil
5:19 PM
@ewwhite I think we actually still have several ships on the lakes that we're redirecting freight around...
 
Wesley
Wesley
@kce Nice!
 
kce
kce
@Wesley - Thanks!
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@ChrisS if we don't kill ourselves before that with freak weather and expanding deserts leading to mass starvation in the next hundred or so years.
but what the fuck do I care - VHEMT baby.
 
cole
cole
I need more caffeine
 
Chris S
Chris S
@voretaq7 Yeah, yeah... That's what we call "Details"
 
ewwhite
ewwhite
5:20 PM
@Basil :(
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@ChrisS no, "de-tail" is what I'm going to do to the groundhogs.
 
Travis
Travis
@BigHomie You like PowerShell ISE?
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
("it's like oxtail, only you have to de-tail a lot more groundhogs to make a good stew...")
 
kce
kce
@Wesley - Actually so yeah. My position at in GUBERMENT is open if you want it. Cisco UCS, NetApp, VMware, ConfigMgr annnnddd other assorted fun
 
Iain
Iain
@Skyhawk invite sent
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
5:21 PM
@Iain thanks!
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@kce 3 months is generally a good timeframe unless the problem is egregious (like "XP-past-EoL" or "Fuck, everything's heartbleeding!")
 
Wesley
Wesley
@kce Relocation package to East Bumblefuque, Yukon provided? =P
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
I've never worked in an organization where I didn't have at least a basic idea of the infrastructure and some priority projects after 3 months. If your infrastructure is small it may take less time :)
 
kce
kce
@voretaq7 - They want to hold off on XP because they want to replace those machines with a thin client solution. I'm a fan of the 80% solution now instead of the 100% solution later but I think I'll bring it up again.
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
I would love to be the sole sysadmin of a company... Oh those poor employees...
 
kce
kce
5:24 PM
@Wesley - Actually, yeah. You could probably negotiate relocation compensation.
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
@KevinSoviero Worst job ever.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@kce Just take the initiative and fix everything. "Hey guys, I noticed you were still on XP, so I spun up an SCCM server and migrated everything to Windows 7 for you. And then set the disk to read only, so it's like a thin client. You're welcome."
 
Wesley
Wesley
@Skyhawk Tell me about it. But at least it's a job.
Sort of.
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
@Skyhawk Really, why?
 
kce
kce
@HopelessN00b - In previous jobs that approach has gone very poorly for me.
I think I'm just going to sit tight for a few months. XP be damned.
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
5:25 PM
@KevinSoviero Needing to negotiate down from an expectation that you're in town and on call 24/7/365?
 
Wesley
Wesley
@kce So are you getting paid, and paid more than at your last job?
 
cole
cole
Is pretty much everyone using an Excel spreadsheet for inventory of their servers?
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@KevinSoviero Because you become the computer bitch for everything and end up doing nothing but teaching people how to type the right shit into IE. Or access the menu they want in Excel. Or remind them where a fileshare is. It usually ends in blood.
 
kce
kce
@Wesley - About the same but a much more appropriate work environment for me.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@cole Graphing paper and an engineer pen.
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
5:26 PM
@Skyhawk That's just how it is at all jobs... At least all the places I've worked are like that.
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
@cole Not in a good way, but yes.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@kce So you can drink in the office? Sweet! =P
 
cole
cole
/sigh
The company I left here for had a custom .NET inventory system - it was actually pretty slick.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@cole Well, you could use our official inventory method instead.... Orion SolarWinds. Blech.
 
kce
kce
@Wesley - Well I do happen to work for a company invovled in the manufacturing industry... of malted beverages
 
cole
cole
5:27 PM
@HopelessN00b we're a Solarwinds shop
 
BigHomie
BigHomie
@Travis Heck yeah
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@cole So you know why it makes a shit inventory system, then.
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
@cole Ever used OCS? We used it when I volunteered at that high school, it worked out pretty well for us.
 
cole
cole
@HopelessN00b correct.
 
BigHomie
BigHomie
@mfinni WOD = ?
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
5:27 PM
@KevinSoviero That doesn't work well for pilots, cyclists, outdoorsmen, people who drink, people who have sex, people who have children, etc. I don't fit the 24/7/365 demographic.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@kce So still Alaska or did you move?
 
mfinni
mfinni
@BigHomie Workout of the Day. crossfitthetaj.com
 
cole
cole
@KevinSoviero I've seen it just didn't seem to fit for us either
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
@KevinSoviero Pretty much the only thing you can be is a hardcore gamer who never leaves one place.
 
BigHomie
BigHomie
@mfinni Gotcha
 
cole
cole
5:28 PM
Same w/ Racktables
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
@Skyhawk Or in my case a hardcore electrical engineer wanabee.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@Skyhawk That doesn't work for people who... live. Six months before you're muttering to imaginary friends and trying to hang yourself from a ceiling fan.
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@Skyhawk Not to mention, at a small shop, you're much less likely to be paid for the 24/7/365 support you do.
 
cole
cole
@Skyhawk I agree - now that I actually have all these hobbies, I never want to be the only sys admin.
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
@cole The UI sucks but the data collection is OK. You can query the DB directly with SQL if you can get past the horrible table names.
 
cole
cole
5:29 PM
@Skyhawk Racktables or OCS?
 
kce
kce
@Wesley - Alaska. Not quite ready yet for the lower 48. Although @Zoredache had a pretty good offering in Ancortes
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
@cole OCS
 
Wesley
Wesley
@kce Anacortes is practically Canada anyway.
 
cole
cole
The interface is super clunky. I may just write something myself.
 
kce
kce
@Wesley - Yeah. I've been there once or twice. Nice but just too many dang people
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
5:30 PM
@kce Did someone say Alaska?
 
kce
kce
@Skyhawk ...yes?
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
@Skyhawk We did this cool thing with OCS where we used it to pull data about every workstation and then used Python to automatically piece together where each printer in the entire school likely was... It worked out pretty well.
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
@Wesley Anacortes is crazy beautiful. And it's where my airplane lives.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@Skyhawk I dunno, but if I see her Alaska! cue laugh track
 
cole
cole
Ah
 
Skyhawk
Skyhawk
5:31 PM
That's gross. Eww.
 
cole
cole
@Skyhawk ....yep.
Apparently they're stimulating their server to climax.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@cole HOW IS SERVER FORMED?!
 
cole
cole
STACK OVERFLOWED
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@kce what's the timeline for the thin client? It may make sense if we're talking a 6-month horizon
 
HopelessN00b
HopelessN00b
@cole Hand overflow? (Ewww.)
 
cole
cole
5:33 PM
Gross.
 
BigHomie
BigHomie
@mfinni I've heard counting lift totals for competition, never counted for a daily workout. have to get the ball rolling consistently, have fallen off after marriage
 
kce
kce
@voretaq7 - I think that's where there at. I dunno. I have only been here three days. I can't tell if they move fast or not.
 
cole
cole
I'm completely useless today.
2
 
Wesley
Wesley
@BigHomie I hear that marriage causes everything to fall off.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@cole Just today? <ducks>
 
cole
cole
5:34 PM
@voretaq7 more useless than normal.
 
BigHomie
BigHomie
@Wesley very close
 
cole
cole
Every time I try to be productive my brain is like "haha that's cute... DISTRACTED!!!! "
GOD DAMMIT MARKDOWN, SERIOUSLY.
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
I wish there was a way to proclaim how much you like someone, and move in together, etc. w/o having to actually get married...
 
Jacob
Jacob
My tiny shell script is not achieving what it should.
 
dawud
dawud
so, I just had to use yum to repair dnf.
 
Jacob
Jacob
5:35 PM
@KevinSoviero There is? and why??
 
cole
cole
It's not the size of the shell script, it's how you execute it.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@cole I was useful once, but then the Local 321 Bottlewashers Union disbanded and things have never been the same.
 
Nathan C
Nathan C
@cole That's how I've been today as well...
 
dawud
dawud
@Jacob show teh codez
 
cole
cole
Staying single is best.
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
5:36 PM
@Jacob Marriage sucks, and I don't want to stay with the same person forever...
OR pay alimony after a while
 
BigHomie
BigHomie
@mfinni are you into Rippetoe
weird way to phrase it I know
 
cole
cole
So just tangled my arm up in my iPhone cable - yep, that's how today's going.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@cole You're morphing into a crazy cat-dude.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@dawud that sounds dirty
 
mfinni
mfinni
@BigHomie Heh - I've watched some of his stuff on the youtubes. Since I go to a CF gym, I mostly just follow the in-house coach programming. I've stopped-and-started the Wendler 5/3/1 program several times, seem to never have the time to complete a wave
 
cole
cole
5:38 PM
@Wesley Disregard females, acquire felines.
2
 
mfinni
mfinni
@cole Have you tried a cordless model? All the rage now
 
Ry Jones
Ry Jones
@cole cats are cheaper than ex wives
 
cole
cole
@RyJones sure are.
 
Jacob
Jacob
@KevinSoviero That seems counter to society, but not my concern. Usually that's how it works, but uh what's wrong with just asking to have {person} move in.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@dawud You could make a trance song out of that. yum-DNF-yum-DNF-yum-DNF-yum-DNF-yum-DNF-yum-DNF
 
BigHomie
BigHomie
5:39 PM
@mfinni Same here, I get up pretty far then just fall off for whatever reason
 
cole
cole
@mfinni this cable is 3ft long but really, I have no excuse except I can't brain today
 
Wesley
Wesley
@RyJones headbonk
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
 
cole
cole
#catsordie
 
Wesley
Wesley
user image
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Ry Jones
Ry Jones
5:39 PM
@Wesley yeah my cat does that all the time, like I'm gonna give him more insulin or something
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
@Jacob Nothing, but others frown on not being married before moving in together... Or is that just a Texas thing?
 
cole
cole
My next tattoo:
 
Ry Jones
Ry Jones
@KevinSoviero why do you care what other people think?
 
cole
cole
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@Wesley he doesn't look dumb, he looks suicidal
 
Jacob
Jacob
5:40 PM
@cole #Dogsareprettycooltoo
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
@RyJones I think I'm supposed to, right? Social creatures and all that.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@Jacob Heartbleed Doge?
 
cole
cole
@Jacob truth, I wish I could have a dog too
 
Jacob
Jacob
@voretaq7 nah.
 
Ry Jones
Ry Jones
@KevinSoviero I dunno, what does google say?
 
Wesley
Wesley
5:41 PM
@voretaq7 The face of a dog who gave up on life.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@Jacob I was internet famous for a day
 
cole
cole
Looks like OCS you need agents though
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
@Wesley "Owner installed XP on my water bowl. Life not worth living."
 
Wesley
Wesley
@voretaq7 Considering how many ATMs are running XP, once that dog is done with his fork I'll need it next.
 
cole
cole
So suddenly work is caring about how many XP machines we have. Um...we still have 2000 and NT4, really guys?
 
Wesley
Wesley
5:43 PM
@cole That's it's own heartbleed. More like "Gaping hole in my aorta" kinda thing.
 
voretaq7
voretaq7
Security Through . . . oh whaterver!
 
Jacob
Jacob
 
cole
cole
@Wesley yeah, they're pretty gaping here.
It's like they locked the front door but left all the windows and back door open.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@cole We talking goatse levels?
 
cole
cole
@Wesley Ya.
 
Wesley
Wesley
5:44 PM
@cole Security threat level: GOATSE
4
 
cole
cole
@Wesley surprisingly, both are red.
anddd that was gross.
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
Anyone here have a GSD (German Shepherd Dog)? I don't think I can have any other dog, they're like wolves w/o the whole getting-mauled-in-your-sleep thing.
 
cole
cole
@Jacob daw
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
@Jacob Breed?
 
Wesley
Wesley
@cole I've like to make a threat dashboard that goes from "snow white" to "Mr. Hands" on a scale of 1 to 10
=P
 
cole
cole
5:46 PM
Just let the star wall be a reminder of why @Wesley and I should not be in The Comms Room at the same time.
4/16/2014 - Never Forget.
 
Jacob
Jacob
@KevinSoviero American Shepard/White German Shepard
 
Ry Jones
Ry Jones
@ewwhite how was your trip to Seattle?
 
Wesley
Wesley
@cole Well at least @MattBear isn't here at the same time or Spolsky would hulk-stomp the StackExchange server racks.
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
@Jacob I thought so...
 
Jacob
Jacob
@KevinSoviero Meaning?
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
5:47 PM
2 mins ago, by Kevin Soviero
Anyone here have a GSD (German Shepherd Dog)? I don't think I can have any other dog, they're like wolves w/o the whole getting-mauled-in-your-sleep thing.
 
Nathan C
Nathan C
@cole We have probably 20 workstations with XP on them...
But it seems like when I get somewhere with a conversation about giving them the ol' boot, it kinda dies silently
 
Jacob
Jacob
@KevinSoviero Missed that.
 
cole
cole
@NathanC You don't want to know our number.
 
Tanner
Tanner
I had a German Shepard/Lab mix. Best dog ever. Playful but smart. She did have a thing for sneaking up on me and biting my Achilles tendon though...
 
Nathan C
Nathan C
maybe those XP machines will need "unfortunate" accidents
@cole Well, considering site-wide we have less than 100, % wise it's pretty high
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
5:49 PM
@Tanner That's how they herd, I've seen them do that to kids, but never adults...
 
cole
cole
1,750
 
Jacob
Jacob
She might maul you, but she won't maul us.
@cole What?
 
cole
cole
@Jacob we have 1750 XP machines
4
 
Tanner
Tanner
@cole That's the number of XP boxes you have?
holy fuck.
 
cole
cole
@Tanner 5500+ person company.
 
Tanner
Tanner
5:50 PM
Well, I feel a lot better about the 12 I have to replace this weekend...
 
MDMarra
MDMarra
You guys think SF has weird rules. Try asking "why" on Skeptics
1
Q: What did I miss when asking this question? Is it actually inappropriate to ask "Why?"

MDMarraThe question is here: Did the US ban the Volkswagon XL1 for being too fuel efficient? More than one person has commented on it saying that asking about motivation is off topic. That's fine, my actual question isn't asking someone to read minds. If the car is indeed banned for sale in the USA, th...

discussion asking-questions
 
Jacob
Jacob
@cole You know that Support for XP ended right?
 
cole
cole
@Jacob ......yes.
 
Jacob
Jacob
Wow this is actually pretty neat
 
cole
cole
We also have NT4 and 2000
 
Nathan C
Nathan C
5:51 PM
Set up a GeoIP block for all countries outside the US/Canada...hopefully that'll curb some of the spam
 
cole
cole
So, I'm more confused why the company suddenly cares.
 
Jacob
Jacob
And yes it appears to appear in chat correctly.
PUN INTENDED
 
mfinni
mfinni
@KevinSoviero I have two of the beasties!
 
cole
cole
@mfinni you have an apartment in JP, right?
 
mfinni
mfinni
@cole Yup - half a house, really.
 
cole
cole
5:55 PM
@mfinni was it hard finding a place that allowed dogs?
Can't find fuck all in Franklin that allows dogs.
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
@mfinni Two GSD in half a house? Geez, I would hate to see your house in summer ;)
 
mfinni
mfinni
@cole Nope, we dealt with a broker/realtor that knows a lot of dog-friendly owners
 
cole
cole
@mfinni ah good to know.
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
@cole Move to Austin, if an apartment doesn't allow dogs, they're out of business in a week
 
mfinni
mfinni
@KevinSoviero Yeah, it's a furnado. We bought a pricey Miele vacuum, does a good job.
 
JohnD
JohnD
5:56 PM
For those of you not on /r/sysadmin, this thread is a goldmine: reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/235hf3/…
 
cole
cole
@KevinSoviero I've thought about it - heard Austin is actually very liberal.
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
@cole Not as much as the west coast, but pretty good.
 
cole
cole
@KevinSoviero yeah, which is fine - Boston is pretty liberal but not as much as the west coast either.
 
Jacob
Jacob
@JohnD Oh my .Someone is rather happy living on the edge.
 
Wesley
Wesley
@JohnD I knew a guy who was the Sr. at a fairly well known art gallery. Users relied on terminal services and thin clients for their every day computing usage. He got fed up with A/V issues so worked hard over time to bring everyone down to regular user levels, made a permissions profile for each application, and then removed A/V. Never had a problem.
 
Kevin Soviero
Kevin Soviero
5:59 PM
@mfinni We have a big back yard, they run wild and free while I'm at work... I think they like it...
 
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