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9:00 PM
:)
 
@voretaq7 My dad almost died in one of those...
 
@Jacob was this about 16.5 years ago?
 
@Chopper3 ummm I think '97
 
ah, wasn't me and my time-machine yesterday then
 
@Jacob I've had the pleasure of being stuck in a room holding a mask. It was not pleasurable.
 
9:02 PM
@Chopper3 Well unless you were in the states....
@voretaq7 why?
 
on the bright side they purged all the halon and got "safe" FM-200 after that
@Jacob Long story involving an old datacenter and an older CEO with a love for fine cigars and no respect for the words "Sir, you really can't smoke that in here"
 
@Josh if it is that mobo, and I think all bets are off right now, then it's page 2-17 of this you need; files.pugetsystems.com/1479/parts/Motherboard/…
 
@voretaq7 LOL, ahhh
 
@Jacob I can laugh about it now, but man that's not fun times when it's actually happening.
 
@voretaq7 What did he say when you exited?
 
9:05 PM
@Chopper3 I am unable to open this link...
 
@Jacob He mea-culpa'd bigtime. Apparently he'd done it before and just whatever path he walked he didn't manage to offend two smoke sensors at once before that
also there was a night iSeries guy there who smoked at the ops desk (that ended after this incident too :-)
 
@voretaq7 dumb...
 
@Chopper3 thanks!
 
sorry, cun't'paste issues
 
@KyleBrandt M.SO down?
 
9:08 PM
@Jacob it's also better than the last place I worked where the HVAC contractor tried to fix a cold water leak on a running aircon by brazing it closed (yeah, that worked well). Same genius contractors tried the same thing on a Freon line (that worked out even better with the hospital trips for everyone who was in the room and having to seal the datacenter until the EPA could clear it)
 
@voretaq7 Freon(22) isn't that bad... My dad and I have inhaled so much of it... most likely
 
@Jacob Freon itself isn't horrible. Do you remember what you get when you burn it?
 
@voretaq7 ughh no
but i know its rather nasty
I am itching to say Ozone?
 
flip down to section 10 (Stability and Reactivity)
you can get some nasty things but raw chlorine and phosgene gas are the most notable
 
ahh
Thermal decomposition products: halogenated compounds, oxides of carbon, hydrochloric acid, chlorine, phosgene
sounds like fun
 
9:17 PM
Barrels of toxic fun for the whole family!
 
/me prefers barrels of breastmilk.
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@voretaq7 I have at least 15 in the garage... That should be enough...
 
annnnd that's going on the wall.
 
My dad is industrial HVAC
@voretaq7 So is that
 
as long as it's not IT related in any way! :-)
 
9:20 PM
@voretaq7 Of course... @josh Is the only one that talks about IT stuff :)
 
I just read that as "/me prefers barrels of breastmilk" .. "I have at least 15 in the garage". Whoops
 
But it's ok I know he's AFK
@BenPilbrow ok coach look at the links please
;)
 
@Jacob bah, you don't expect me to read it properly... do you ;)
 
wow - just did a 'splunk clean eventdata -index main' - wiped 3.7TB of logs :)
on purpose of course
 
Wowzer
 
9:24 PM
basically the 'playing around' stuff, malformed messages, had splunk PS guys in today doing all their regex rule stuff to fix it all, don't need the old ones
 
FW logs from Cisco ACE/ASAs
chatty
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Q: Synchronize two databases with differing levels of normalization

BryanI have two tables. Table A is brand new and relatively normalized. Table B is old and completely breaks all levels of normalization. I'm creating a brand new system using table A, but table B is still in heavy use by our entire staff until the new system is up and running at which time we'll mak...

:(
 
less a sysadmin/DBA job, more a data-cleanse one
 
So he (presumably) wrote the system, but is unable to also write a script to convert from one format to another.
 
9:29 PM
that's a StackOverflow question, and the answer is "Don't DO that - write your new system, populate and test it, then write a script to sync it to the old system once & move on"
 
couldn't have put it better myself :)
 
(alternate answers include massive abuse of triggers, gnashing of teeth, and possible suicide)
 
Trigger abuse, yay!
 
where's Josh, I want to go home but I don't want to leave the dude hanging with his fuckwit of a hosting fella
 
9:31 PM
's'ok
 
@Chopper3 I assume he's washing the blood off his knuckles
oh guess not
 
So it was what I suspected it was and your original link was correct, right?
@voretaq7 I just finished, LOL
 
guess so, in which case, well 24GB into 16/32 slots is... tricky/non-optimal/broken - take your pick
any idea what modules are in it?
 
@Chopper3 so you're suggesting I should have 32 GB RAM instead, right? ;-)
 
it depends what you have to hand - what did it have before it was upgraded
 
9:34 PM
@Chopper3 no idea what modules are on it, I could ask, or better yet I could get a memtest CD burned and ask that, LOL
@Chopper3 we had an 8-core machine with 12GB RAM before
 
@Josh that might be the better way to go LOL
 
so a single CPU?
 
@Chopper3 dual quad core
but we had VMware Server 2
Going to 32GB adds a significant chunk to my bill, not sure if I can get approval for that
 
but you're tied, you have 4 CPUs, the minimum memory loadout is 16 DIMMs, so it's either 16 x 1GB, 16 x 2GB, 32 x 1GB or 32 x 2GB - memory is SO damn cheap, or is your supplier raping you on this?
 
Probably the latter, sadly
OK. Well, let me see if I can get approval to jump to 32GB. If not, I'll figure out a different plan
Thanks @Chopper3!
 
9:41 PM
crucial are doing a compatible 2GB DIMM for $36 each - crucial.com/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=A9F8B17AA5CA7304
so that's $576, not including the fact you already have memory in it already - who's the supplier?
 
@Chopper3 Its rented servers
 
does that every work out financially?
 
@Chopper3 IDK... their choice
 
right, 'night gents
 
@Chopper3 wow, ok, that's crazy
Jumping to 32GB is $100/mo more
 
9:52 PM
G'nite @Chopper3
 
@Chopper3 OK. I'm gonna ask if I can jump to 32GB at half the normal cost. Thanks for all your help, have a nice night!
 
@Chopper3 Night
 
10:21 PM
Damn, why have I appropriated the only spare server at work without iDRAC
 
10:31 PM
@ITHedgeHog Why'd you think it was in the spares bin? :-D
 
lol, its not in the spare bin. I've just migrated all the VM's off it to another server
 
@Josh Per... MONTH? Ugh. Renting servers blows man!
 
This is theft through posession ;)
 
@voretaq7 I KNOW
I am about to just buy my own damn hardware, LOL
 
@ITHedgeHog Possession is 9 tenths of ITS MINE! YOU CANT HAVE IT BACK! MINE! GRRRRRR!
 
10:33 PM
Pretty much
 
They wouldn't give me 8GB more for half price, so, looking for other options
 
@Josh seriously -- $2-20k buys you an OK to excellent box. your 100/mo would buy you one of those in 2 years.
@Josh www.dell.com www.hp.com www.ironsystems.com :-)
in unrelated news, I'm going into business renting out hardware -- never realized it was so lucrative!
 
@voretaq7 Believe me, I've thought about it. It's just making decent management front ends that's the bitch.
 
@WesleyDavid management? Do it yourself, or $200/hr for me. Doubled after 5, weekends, or holidays :P
 
@voretaq7 it's tempting, LOL
 
10:37 PM
@Josh Forget tempting, it's cost-effective :-)
 
hey there folks. Can anyone suggest a place to buy a ton of ethernet from?
I need ~300 1' cables
 
10:48 PM
I suppose that's not really a ton
/me shrugs
 
11:06 PM
SysAdmin Tip: Always take a leak before beginning production maintenance.
 
So, posted a question. If anyone has any comment I would be glad to read it.
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Q: What is needed to use anycast IPs?

coredumpSo, there're a bunch of questions on SF about the uses and how anycast IPs are cool. My approach is something more practical. What specifically I need to have to use one of those addresses? Do I need to be an AS (Autonomous System)? If I want to use an Anycast IP on my internal network, is it p...

 
I assume you have read the wikipedia article?
 
@Zoredache yep. Not very good
 
11:22 PM
no love on the referral for some vendor?
 
11:32 PM
For cables I usually just use Cables to Go
 
aha. someone reminded me of Monoprice
don't know why I didn't think of that
 
@coredump, as far as I understand, you just use the a standard IP or Subnet on whatever network you like. Then you adjust routing tables to use the closest version.
 

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