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12:06 AM
@jrg are you trying to say my computer isn't awesome?
 
jrg
@Joshua i'm saying you need to build another one and give it to your wife for Christmas so you can have your desktop back.
 
Oh... well I put her laptop back together so I am cool :-D
 
jrg
i may have just found a really, really cool thing.
 
um okay what is it?
 
jrg
auto chromium updater for arch.
 
12:09 AM
who uses arch?
About as many people that use Windows Vista?
 
jrg
ok, true
but i could adapt this to ubuntu...
 
that you need to do.
 
jrg
well that was simple.
 
Oh?
 
jrg
@amithKK: see this, i'm going to be using this from now on. adapting it to a ppa is low on my priorities, but at least it works.
@Joshua yeah. i now have the latest chromium nightly running for me.
 
12:13 AM
Cool but share the knowledge :=P
 
hey guys
 
@Elysium yo.
 
do you know why my external HD doesnt appear in the Xubuntu file manager? Could that be cause of a common problem?
 
Lets start with the obvious, is it plugged in and powered?
 
jrg
is it plugged in, is it powered, and what is it formatted as?
 
12:16 AM
ext4
plugged in
 
@jrg lol
 
jrg
what happens if you do tail -f /var/log/syslog
and then unplug it
 
I havent installed the updates yet after the resintall...but this should be an issue
 
jrg
and then plug it back in?
@Joshua: Just pushed it up to github. github.com/jrgifford/chromium-update
 
I have just used a normal pendrive and that worked
 
12:17 AM
@Elysium installing updates should always be your first step in troubleshooting :-D
 
alrighty
then in the morning
I am knackered :D
good night guys and thx
 
@jrg that would be great if I new what I was to do with that.
 
jrg
@Joshua relax, i'll hack together a PPA or something.
 
@jrg lol....
you telling me to releax???
:=P
 
jrg
probably would just be a script that you run, it downloads it, hacks together a cronjob to run every day and update it.
 
12:20 AM
@jrg so in all seriousness, this is the first time I have booted into Ubuntu since Windows 8 was released...
 
jrg
i see
 
I am not sure if I can adapt...
 
jrg
i have faith in you.
 
I don't....
 
12:33 AM
@Joshua Unity = Taskbar sidways but better =)
@jrg Have any experience a with ATI Radeon 4890?
 
jrg
nope, i'm a Radeon HD 6320.
but i can take a stab at it. whats up?
 
jrg
huh
 
I think its a driver problem
 
jrg
thats weird.
 
12:41 AM
I can't find it here either
 
jrg
 
So it is hd?
as in HD 4890?
 
jrg
if i had to guess, that'd be it
 
OK, I was guessing that too.
 
jrg
ok, why is debian packaging so freakin' difficult? Arch has a pretty slick packaging system.
 
12:44 AM
lol
 
@jrg: could be simpler. I tend to gasp throw together packages with checkinstall
 
jrg
there, in a single wikipage, is how to build a high-quality AUR package.
 
@jrg the driver gives me a .run file
 
jrg
@iSeth right. you run that and you have to compile the drivers. hangon
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Q: What is the correct way to install ATI Catalyst Video Drivers (fglrx)?

Stephen MyallI am planning on doing a fresh install of 12.04 LTS and want to know what is the correct way to install ATI Catalyst Video Driver? There are multiple valid answers for this question spanning over several versions of Ubuntu. For your convenience an index of each below: 12.10 12.04 11.10/11....

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A: Is my ATI graphics card supported in Ubuntu?

Bruno PereiraOfficially Supported Hardware To check if your card is supported visit this site. If you card is not listed there then probably it is too new and simply is not supported by any ATI driver. Installation of the drivers Before installing any drivers you need to install some dependencies to your...

those two are good.
 
12:46 AM
thanks i'll look at those =)
 
jrg
good luck
 
O_o thats a lot to sift through
"

Latest proprietary AMD Catalyst driver version 12.9 cannot be used with Ubuntu 12.10 If you have a AMD Radeon HD 2xxx-4xxx series card.

Drivers for these cards are now available in a separate branch called legacy series. Unfortunately these legacy drivers (version 12.6) have not been updated to work with Ubuntu 12.10. Ubuntu 12.10 comes with xorg 1.13 while these drivers have support for older xorg 1.12. So if you want to install these drivers in Ubuntu 12.10, you have to downgrade to xorg 1.12.
that makes it easier
 
1:14 AM
@jrg Did Andrew talk to you about Saturday?
 
jrg
@Flabricorn what, d&d?
 
dungeon and dragons?
 
jrg
yah
 
over the internet?
 
@jrg Yes, we cannot make it, Swim meet. We were wondering if there was any way that we could talk to people about rescheduling for Sunday. Also he invited me without consulting anyone, so also that.
@Joshua No, this is the real world.
 
jrg
1:16 AM
@Flabricorn i can't make it either, so... that sucks.
 
@jrg oh cool...
 
"Natural Light" Psssh, I'll believe it if I see it.
@jrg Any way you could make Sunday?
 
@jrg I am glad my super nerd detector was going off...
 
jrg
@Flabricorn i can call the guy and talk to him, but i can't make Sunday.
and neither can he come to think of it.
 
Welp, that a little bit complicated things.
 
jrg
1:17 AM
a scout troop event.
 
SO, I'll talk to Andrew about it.
 
@jrg you just need to earn your Eagle Scout badge and leave the cult...
@jrg I mean I was a scout too... but I left before they good make me a good person...
 
@Joshua I left prematurely as well.
 
I saw through the merit badges and the community service, and the camping trips....
 
Really? I never made it to tenderfoot.
 
jrg
1:19 AM
lol
 
I mean there were so many pages in that book, and so little I was prepared to actually participate in.
 
and the fact that my scout master was a state trooper was kind of scary too...
 
Alright, I'm going to block AskUbuntu until 10:00 PM, so I can work without being distracted.
 
jrg
hey, one of my friends had a former navy seal for his SM. he said it was one of the best years of his life. :P
 
@jrg I guess there is nothing like boot camp at summer camp...
 
jrg
1:29 AM
@Joshua shrug
 
One of my assitant scout masters was a ex-coast guard seaman or whatever they call themselves
 
jrg
oh cool
 
 
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2:56 AM
I have a problem that's not solved by the methods suggested in the question corresponding to my problem :(
I want to open a new question but I don't want to create confusion :S
I'm getting this problem:
Failed to retrieve share list from server
When connecting to Samba
As usual - bug ignored.
This is beginning to feel like dealing with Microsoft.
omg
found the fix
it was so simple I can't believe I missed it
a part of the file was commented out
 
3:19 AM
Hello any mods in here? Can you please move this over to superuser? askubuntu.com/q/222563/36459 -- I think I might get an answer there
 
3:43 AM
@jrg ^---
@RolandiXor-TheIceMan O_o not Microsoft!!
 
4:11 AM
Browsing the web when I found an interesting webpage from 1990something.
Really quite entertaining looking back at web development.
Well, before lense flare and glossy icons, all we had was comic sans, and some Star-Trek gifs it would seem.
 
@jrg o /
 
0
Q: Login other bash ttys after logging in to one

Vreality2007Is there a way to login certain (or all) ttys after logging into one? I don't want auto-login because I still want to login once (for security). I've looked into things like "screen" but they are rather cumbersome and don't work with some programs (e.g. fbgs). Is there a command to simulate loggi...

 
@Flabricorn Wow that is old... and.. and .. and thats not <blink> is it!!!
I wonder who hosts it
 
4:34 AM
@GeorgeEdison - I'm in a foul mood, but I would like to hear the answer. Even if it's touch and go.
 
4:45 AM
Anyone knows the equivalent of ipconfig | config addr (Windows command) on Ubuntu?
 
Look at this too
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Q: ipconfig not working

LethalDiversionFor some reason when I enter ipconfig in terminal, it just returns this: "" No command 'ipconfig' found, did you mean: Command 'tpconfig' from package 'tpconfig' (universe) Command 'iwconfig' from package 'wireless-tools' (main) Command 'ifconfig' from package 'net-tools' (main) ipconfig: c...

 
I did know that its ifconfig on ubuntu.But how about the rest of the command? That's where I am stuck.
Oh, okay. It's simper on Ubuntu, I guess. sudo ifconfig seems to give all the info I need. Thanks Seth!
 
@its_me No Problem
 
:)
 
Its what we're here for =)
 
4:50 AM
a boon for beginners
Hurry! Just solved my problem: askubuntu.com/q/222563/36459 (posting an answer shortly!
 
ok
great
do you still want it moved?
 
@iSeth nope, thank you
 
OK
 
ifconfig ethX1.1.1.1 255.0.0.0, but still. man ifconfig is more powerful
also, linux commands are way more intuitive
 
As a beginner I find typing paths to folders/files in command-line easier on linux than on Windows
:P
 
5:01 AM
The terminal is way more intuitive in Linux than Command is in Windows
 
lol
it is
 
and you can do everything through it, which makes it new user friendly
ya know "Just run this"
 
its either cmd (which is almost useless) or powershell (which is very programmer oriented) in windows
bash (or shell of your choice) just works, and is backed up by great tools
 
@JourneymanGeek CMD stands for 'Command'
 
cmd.exe ;p
 
5:02 AM
they changed it from 'COMMAND' to 'CMD' in XP
 
well, "old school" windows CLI
as opposed to powershell ;p
 
oh, BTW @Flabricorn I found everything I needed on this site ;)
 
dod actually renames cmd.exe on their systems since ppl that know what they're doing use it extensively...just sayin. cmd is not weak, just under-utilized
see netsh in 7 as an example
 
I found this site out not that long ago
its awesome for your windows needs
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing: I use it a lot with GOW - basically coreutils for windows ;p
 
5:17 AM
see netcat without netcat, command line ninjitsu from ed skoudis for the details. basically there are infinite ways to rpb windows from a terminal
 
 
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7:35 AM
appears
 
7:45 AM
reapparitionates
 
8:07 AM
:P
 
hi
Sorry to ask, but what happens in this room, mainly?
 
/random
 
\random
 
\orandom
\o/random
 
;) okayz
Ever tried apt-get moo ?
 
8:12 AM
yeah
try cmatrix
 
woah
nice
Have you tried cowsay ?
i love those things xD
 
yep. try it with fortune for more lolz
 
fortune-mod ?
 
fortune cookies
 
8:16 AM
cowsay is a program which generates ASCII pictures of a cow with a message. It can also generate pictures using pre-made images of other animals. There is also a related program called cowthink, with cows with thought bubbles rather than speech bubbles. .cow files for cowsay exist which are able to produce different variants of "cows", with different kinds of "eyes", and so forth. It is sometimes used on IRC, desktop screenshots, and in software documentation. It is more or less a joke within hacker culture, but has been around long enough that its use is rather widespread. In 2007 it wa...
 
I have a bug on my computer i believe :
http://askubuntu.com/questions/222924/freeze-after-opening-closed-lid-how-do-i-fix-it
 
$ fortune | cowsay
 ________________________________________
/ You have Egyptian flu: you're going to \
\ be a mummy.                            /
 ----------------------------------------
        \   ^__^
         \  (oo)\_______
            (__)\       )\/\
                ||----w |
                ||     ||
 
hahahaha xD
 
@tech nothing much to do. file a bug report.
 
8:18 AM
How do I file a report?
 
142
Q: How do I report a bug?

andrewsomethingI found a problem with a application on Ubuntu. How do I best report the issue? What sort of information should I provide?

 
hahahah: Sorry, ubuntu experienced a problem.. Do you want to report it?
Sorry, Report-a-bug just crashed
 
I don't know which package to report. When I closed the lid of my laptop and open it again, all I see is a black screen. The cursor can be moved. To end it, I MUST shut it down by the power button.
 
hows that possible ?
 
@tech file it against xorg
 
8:25 AM
@jokerdino uhm, have you ever experienced that the report a bug program crashes when you are going to report a bug? That happens to me all the time -_-
 
i end up reporting both the bugs
 
oh xD
Are you inside the #ubuntuforums chatroom ?
 
sorta
 
hehe, i've seen you before then , i am airplanesimen
 
i see
 
8:30 AM
report a bug program crashes lol
 
report them using apport-cli xD
 
8:56 AM
Am I the only one who does not experience crashes?
 
yep. actually not sure. if i want to, i can disable crashes :P
3
 
\o/ lucky me to manage to set my system up to not allow crashes.
sudo crash --disable
 
no, by downgrading to 12.04
i am on 13.04 atm -.-
 
<-- never was happy with .10 releases
 
i think 12.04 is the most solid release i ever used after 10.10
 
9:02 AM
BBL
 
@jokerdino 10.04 and 11.04 were quite stable too.
 
i started using ubuntu after seeing the unity in 11.04
 
I upgraded 10.04 after having seen Unity :)+
 
haha
 
So far I do not seen any sensible reason to update my 12.04 to 12.10. I hope there will not be one soon.
Usually I think of upgrading my 2nd box some time after a release. But this time its different. Hmm.
 
9:09 AM
not much actually
 
Rather I'd upgrade my motherboard and CPU - but thats a different story.
 
lol
 
12.10 only runs smoothly on my Virtual Box when I give it 2 virtual cores. That's bad on a dual-core host. :"(
0 cores left for the host.
 
yeah. :/
 
<-- told Father Christmas of a 8-core CPU
<-- is of an age to give presents, not to get them
 
9:14 AM
:P
you have to give yourself
 
No budget left after buying LEGO
 
oooh
 
Two LEGO boxes = one 8-core CPU.
 
lucky kids i must say
 
Expensive kids I must say.
 
9:16 AM
well that too
 
At least still I dont have to buy games for a PS, XBox or Wii - the kids still are on Ubuntu.
 
well, i would say it is just matter of time
 
Real men teach their children to only run Ubuntu.
 
well, steam's coming to ubuntu
 
<-- failed because of Android
yeah - I heard that. Lucky kids I have.
 
9:20 AM
(;
 
o//
 
o/
 
kan
9:36 AM
Can someone help me with something? There are 7000 and odd lines of code. I would like to figure out where the code of a particular function is... luckily, all of the files are in one directory... I couldn't figure how to use grep...
 
o_. (me presenting a cookie first)
8
@kan its awk not grep you may need
 
he actually needs gawk.
 
kan
@Takkat and @jokerdino Hmmm... let me check out
 
or that but eat a cookie first
 
@kan 7000 lines of code in one file ... the programmer should be taken outside and shot! Hasn't he heard of creating modularized code?!
 
9:42 AM
7000 lines of code need considerable mental powers and patience
 
kan
@fossfreedom No, not one file, several files but one directory. :)
 
The function in question may be called many times thus may be referenced quite often. :/
 
kan
@Takkat I am sure that's not the case.
 
ok if you want a grep solution:
grep "stuff you need to figure" *
 
kan
There can be atmost four to five occurences -- in the docstring, function_header and the version_message... :)
@jokerdino Is the * indicating -- search the pwd?
 
9:47 AM
something like that
 
kan
Oh, OK. I was using .. but grep just smiled and gave the prompt back to me. sigh
Thank you!
I figured it out! Now, I'll shoot the programmer! He had put things under undecipherable file names!
 
well, i myself need to modularize a growing class
 
kan
Well, OK. Time to make changes, and submit my first patch EVAR.
 
10:06 AM
Hi all, there is a comment in an answer to this question that I think should be removed immediately as it might construed as offensive by some. askubuntu.com/questions/118151/…
I flagged it last night
 
gone
 
if you flag spam/offensive - they are seen as high priority compared to standard flags.
3
 
@fossfreedom i flagged it from my phone and probably dodnt see all the option, will do in future
 
10:23 AM
0
Q: Does apt-cacher Change Packages `Access Time`?

tAmir NaghizadehI tried to remove the long time unused packages from apt-cacher archive using find: 1. $find /var/cache/apt-cacher -atime +5 -type f -name ".*deb*" | wc -l 8471 2. $find /var/cache/apt-cacher -atime +9 -type f -name ".*deb*" | wc -l 2269 3. $find /var/cache/apt-cacher -atime +10 -t...

 
@tAmirNaghizadeh i don't know much. Good luck :)
 
@jokerdino :)
 
@tAmirNaghizadeh just saying: don't remove too much. There usually is not much gain in harddisk space. Its mostly not worth the effort.
 
kan
11:16 AM
Another question: how to interpret this line of output from ls -l:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 40079 Nov 28 15:27 name.py
 
kan
@jokerdino Looks like what I was searching for... Thank you. :)
So, effectively, I don't own the file and I cannot write into it... although it is in my home. sigh
 
i guess you used sudo somewhere.
 
kan
@jokerdino Yes. Is that also evil? :'-(
 
you end up with files owned by root.
 
kan
11:21 AM
@jokerdino so, how do I own the file now?
 
chown
 
kan
sudo chown?
(I haven't tried yet... so please correct me before I break anything... :))
 
hold on
i almost never use chown
1
Q: Changing file and folder ownership from root?

matt74tmI created a folder structure as root and now need to transfer ownership to an ordinary user. This question is linked to this one - http://superuser.com/questions/198191/providing-permission-to-specific-user-to-access-nfs-share I have a folder /srv/app-share that needs to be visible/writeable to...

if you run into any issue, i am not responsible.
 
kan
@jokerdino :)
 
it is almost not recommended to use sudo gedit. so i have no idea why you did.
darn, I thought Mahesh just came back.
 
11:26 AM
Hey everyone~
 
kan
@jokerdino What?! I use no sudo gedit... I copied this file from a root-owned directory, OK?
 
@jokerdino Sorry to disappoint you.
 
kan
@Mochan Hello! :)
 
brb
 
@kan that might explain. just use chown.
@Mochan ok
 
kan
11:27 AM
@jokerdino should I also change the group?
 
i think u just copy the contents to another file. much better. ;p
 
kan
@jokerdino What? How is that different from having a copy of that root-owned file?
 
open the file, ctrl+a, ctrl+c, open a new file, ctrl+v
 
kan
but why? ;-)
Well, just plain curious and bored before an exam.
 
because i don't care about chown
 
kan
11:30 AM
:P
OK.
 
Back :)
@kan, remember what I said about not thinking I'd pass?
 
kan
@Mochan yes...
 
@kan Well, I was right. I failed.
No
LOL
 
kan
Holy! :(
Well, try codeacademy now!
 
-shrug-
 
kan
11:33 AM
I mean their Python track...
 
@kan Haha. Maybe. I'll take a break from programming for a bit before I jump in, I guess.
 
kan
@Mochan Basic Python is easy. :)
 
ok time to debug :P
 
@kan If I did the course, don't I know the basics? Technically?
@jokerdino Good luck, bro! ^o^
 
(:
 
11:35 AM
I don't know how you guys do it.
 
kan
@Mochan I am sure, you'd, but when I said basics, I was thinking of more like data structures in Python, not the absolute basics. :)
 
i start with figuring why i am doing something
 
@kan Data structures?
My attention span is too short for that. I'm actually more creative than logical :S
Probably why i failed :P
Look at my rep. I increased it by 200-300 I think?
 
kan
@Mochan Lists, sets and dictionaries to begin with. Then, about how to use them as stacks and queues... :)
 
o.O
 
kan
11:37 AM
@Mochan My rep: 13.
 
stacks and queues..
 
@kan Dictionaries + Lists were covered, were they not?
 
hmm ... --> re my spam/offensive comment ... just to say, we'll come down on you from 64000ft if you frivolously use spam/offensive
7
 
@kan Not today
 
kan
@Mochan They were, but I'd suggest that you become familiar with useful methods they allow: technically, most of the methods they allow. :)
@Mochan OK...
 
11:38 AM
@fossfreedom lol
what's with the number?
 
kan
@jokerdino cube of 40.
 
@kan I would like to learn Python. But, what am I to use it for? I was just learning a bit for the heck of it.
 
@Mochan I guess that's why you failed?
 
@kan But how is that relevant? Is it not just a random number? XD
@jokerdino +1
I better go. Sorry for the brief visit. I'll be back sooner rather than later.
 
@jokerdino we are always watching you ... even from the international space station ;)
 
kan
11:40 AM
@Mochan Well, there is nothing as random numbers. Definitive algorithms generate them. So, "random" numbers are truly pseudo random.
 
@kan You earned 12 rep today I mean 500 in yesterday...?
Same thing? IDK.
 
@fossfreedom Ah, ISS is at 30km height? :P
 
kan
@Mochan No, my entire AU rep = 13 rep.
 
Correction: 20KM
 
@kan Ugh. Don't get technical on me now. @JourneymanGeek needs to flow you ~_~
 
kan
11:41 AM
OK. My system will throw an ExceptionError from now on. :P
 
@kan Oh~ I think I technically have 250-ish.
Anyway. I'm leaving. See you all~
Bye~
 
kan
Bye. And, I am off too.
Thanks @jokerdino and @Takkat.
 
11:57 AM
lol
there is such a thing as a random number
but not what you generate on a PC
 
4. 4 is the random number.
 
there's actually physical RNGs
as opposed to /dev/random
which creates an enthropy pool off what you do
 
i hate entropy.
it gives the idea that things aren't orderly by nature
 
which they aren't :P
 
it isn't orderly, yes. but commoners won't figure much.
 
12:09 PM
If the world was orderly it would not be possible that fixing a bug gives birth to another bug.
 
hm, well, i also hate philosophy.
 
Philosophy is where a bug is allowed to stay forever.
 
lol
 
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