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jrg
12:01 AM
nice work @Flabricorn
well, most of them.
 
@jrg Well, most of them.
 
jrg
@Flabricorn right. mateo and jokerdino covered them
although why they didn't vote to reject them is beyond me.
 
Hmm, yeah, I got rep for those.
Wierd.
 
jrg
(granted, i also just went on an reviewing binge... ah, i miss the old suggested edits review format. the diffs were much nicer)
 
yeah weird.
 
jrg
12:04 AM
anyway, bbiab. please leave a message after the beep.
 
@jrg i didn't review the edits
 
jrg
@jokerdino @Flabricorn: I approved them on autopilot. i need to figure out how to use the new review and make it show the markdown diff for all of them.
 
oh right
 
jrg
markdown diff is much better for at-a-glance-should-i-approve-this than the rendered. too bad the latter is the default.
 
I skipped them, so I didn't vote...
I guess mod approval trumps all...
 
12:09 AM
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Q: Wifi signal strength and internet connection is slow

user1582478I hope that I have asked this question in the right topic. Basically I use BT (In the U.K.) and I have problems with my router receiving a weak signal in certain rooms of the house, which, therefore makes the internet really slow in some cases it won't work at all. I have had experience working...

Check out the answer...
 
+1 for removing brick walls!
 
my fave was "drape tinfoil over your home to block neighbours wifi"
A side effect of that would be that it would prevent your neighbors from using your wifi... kills 2 birds with one stone...
 
@mateo_salta I suppose that's actually not a joke.
 
I think part of it is.
 
I mean, covering your house in tinfoil? MY house is covered in tinfoil! Sure, do it all the time to prevent those neighbors from stealing my Internet!
Yay! Thank you @jrg.
 
@Flabricorn 2 things: you need to move your house further from your neighbor, and secondly you need to secure your wifi...
 
@Joshua Only joking, I'm actually the one who does all the technical items for the neighbors, they now have an amazing router of their own, incredibly secure, and sometimes, I end up stealing theirs whenever the cable gets clogged. It's a RT-N12 Asus Router.
 
brb coffee break
back if anyone remains to be here
 
12:39 AM
Food break, BBT? Or maybe later, but probably not later.
 
cya
 
@Joshua This is another version of the power strip jrg was talking about.
Explains what it can do more in depth
 
I will have to keep my eyes open for these crafty things..
 
yeah... they look a lot like power line networking boxes :/
 
If I see a power supply plugged into an rj45 port I will be very suspicious...
 
12:51 AM
Just make sure its not this
Hey, 35 bucks is a good price....
 
We don't use them at work :-D
or at least not yet...
 
=)
 
(don't discuss here, only certain people can read it and it's not related to Ubuntu ;)
 
@RolandiXor-TheIceMan I'm still running WUBI :(
I read if I convert the HP_RECOVERY or HP_TOOLS to logical it would break the mbr link in the BIOS.
And right now Ubuntu has to play second fiddle to Windows because of school
 
@iSeth you can't create a new partition from within windows or from the Ubuntu installer by shrinking the Windows partition?
 
1:04 AM
I can't get Wubi to boot, bastards...
@RolandiXor-TheIceMan and your link doesn't work that you sent me.
 
@Joshua He sent it to George Edison and jrg :D
 
@iSeth yeah but he sent me a link on google talk too...
@iSeth that doesn't work...
 
@Joshua try it again
 
"I'm on it"
 
@RolandiXor-TheIceMan No, if I can't a new partition it will Virtualize my other partitions.
@Joshua ah, sorry
 
1:08 AM
@iSeth weird
 
@RolandiXor-TheIceMan Its called 'Windows'
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:D
 
@RolandiXor-TheIceMan I have to go for a bit...
 
@Peachy Hello!
 
@Flabricorn hello
 
1:13 AM
@iSeth haha
@Joshua aw man :(
@Peachy hey!
 
@RolandiXor-TheIceMan yay
 
I'm looking for the song...the one that got away
 
\o/ - [ Why are we all raising our hands?]
 
radiobutton1.set_sensitive(False)
 
1:15 AM
\o/ [I don't know, just shut up and roll with it] - \o/
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@jokerdino why is radiobutton1 !sensitive?
 
@Peachy because the switch1 is active
i am trying to get this gtk thing to work. don't mind me :P
i am sorta ranting in py code
 
@Peachy that would be me
It was hard, but I escaped despite the vigilance of the guards.
 
hm, that song is by Katy Perry?
 
Had to dig a tunnel.
Wait, we're not talking about being secret agents are we O_o?
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1:18 AM
@RolandiXor-TheIceMan lol
@jokerdino yes
 
@RolandiXor-TheIceMan Psssh, yeah we are.
 
@Peachy right. my memory isn't failing too much.
 
@Flabricorn Too late! starred
 
@Flabricorn who?
I have no clue what's going on...
 
It's because you got away
 
1:20 AM
Wow, four stars in less than 5 seconds :O
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@iSeth You inspired us.
 
@Flabricorn Haha
 
iSeth everybody! Clap, clap, clap.
Clap...clap... clap.... Chirp, chirp.
 
Well, @iSeth I guess no applause for you.
 
1:23 AM
Clap.
Clap clap clap.
 
There we go! :D
 
:D
 
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLPACPALACPAPLAPLCPALAPLCPLAPLAPLAPLAPLAPLAPLAPLCLCPLAPCLAPLCPALCPLCPALPALPLCPAL‌​CPLAPLCPLAP...
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o_o
 
@RolandiXor-TheIceMan Man, you made me LOL!!!!!!!!
 
O_O
 
1:25 AM
xD
I try lol
 
Shoot, my blank face was late.
 
Anybody know where I can get background music for my video projects? I don't want to look like the guys that always use the ones that come with the editor :/
And I don't own a mac... so no Garage Band :(
 
So, I was looking at Quickly and Glade, they seem pretty cool, I was thinking instead of writing a firefox chromeless "app" because the project is deemed dead, I could write a web browser, this would let me learn some python and then I could just set default homepage to here, remove all the items that make it a web browser and see how that works out.
@iSeth No, I don't, but I could look for something.
 
@Flabricorn Awesome Idea!!! Just make sure we can really make it small e.g. not always full screen
 
I thought so, with the size of around half, or maybe the entire file browser.
Maybe I could somehow get the applications you can place in the dock which are links to webpages to work with it.
 
1:32 AM
@Flabricorn too small?
 
No, that could work.
I just know some people would want access to the Starred section and the bottom links for formating help...
So it could easily be scaled.
 
@Flabricorn Unfortunately, my py skills are almost nill
 
To fit all! :)
 
@Flabricorn Great!
 
Ha, my py skills... wait what py skills?
But, on the quickly download page when not accessed through the software center, there is a 43 minute video tutorial where they go through how to make a web browser.
 
1:36 AM
@Flabricorn Ah, that could help
 
And I figured I could pick up python as I worked, by navigating tutorials inbetween, and learning based on what he says.
By the end I'll see if I retain any of the information.
 
look for 'Think Like a Computer Scientist Python'
Ahah! found it
Some of the math is slightly above me, but thats OK.
 
Hey, for the Garage Band situation, do you need looping?
 
@Flabricorn Naw, I could handle looping in the editor
 
Because with looking around here, people have said that there is "No replacement for GarageBand with the "Just Works" feel from Mac".
 
1:40 AM
BTW isn't Glade for GNOME only? not Unity
 
But an alternative would be:
Jokosher
and LMMS.
 
@iSeth it's for Gtk
 
Ah, OK thanks
 
Oh, joker got it.
 
1:41 AM
@Flabricorn jamendo.com
 
time for a long nap :)
 
@iSeth Wasn't mega trying to do that, but with heavier advertising?
 
I don't no what mega is.... sorry
 
Meagupload was going to, (after being shut down) release a music platform that allowed you to download titles for free, have heavy advertising and 90% of profits would goto the artists.
They had a me.ga domain, but Gabon shut it down.
 
Creative Commons : Attribution-Share Alike 3.0
So, its legal... sites kinda buggy though
 
1:48 AM
Mmm, still nice! I can't find anything I have an affinity for, but I'll keep it in mind. Thanks!
 
@Flabricorn Wow, LMMS look awsome thanks!
 
No problem!
 
I gota go eat dinner now.
Talk to you later!!
 
See you later!
 
2:04 AM
@iSeth Moby released a bunch of things for non-profit projects, mobygratis.com/film-music.html
 
That's cool!
Alright, nighttime now, off I go!
 
I am bored and uninspired lol.
 
jrg
2:30 AM
sup guys?
 
writers block? @RolandiXor-TheIceMan
 
@jrg your still up? O_o
 
jrg
@iSeth it's 9:30PM.
 
Yeah I know. I guess I go to bed early... =)
 
jrg
haw4aii - now that's an original password.
 
2:36 AM
haha
One of my old ones was IlUaF+P123
 
jrg
heh.
 
So... who's password was that?
 
jrg
that was some poor guy from the linkedin breach.
 
Whew, I was worried that it was a new mod power :D
 
lol
p4ssw0rd
 
2:41 AM
@mateo_salta thanks for the link!
 
jrg
fishiefishie << interesting one.
 
though recently I switched to the 3 word with substitution
 
jrg
oh? i'm looking into a system like that.
temp1: +135.9°F (high = +158.0°F)
Well, at least I know my GPU is working.
 
@iSeth sure, np
 
wonder if haw4ii would stand a dictionary attack.
 
jrg
2:44 AM
and i know my fan is working. :P
@iSeth it wouldn't.
 
@jrg Go figure.
 
jrg
i can tell you that right now with 150% certainty that any dictionary attack with its salt will do a simple number substitution like that.
 
@jrg BTW I was not trying to show off or anything like that... just talking....
Sorry if your offended
 
jrg
huh?
 
I don't think you offended him
 
jrg
2:47 AM
as most of these guys will tell you, it's almost impossible to offend me.
and i'm not sure what you are referring to, but you certainly haven't offended me.
 
@jrg sorry. just realized that I kinda sounded like that.
 
jrg
But, i am now taking offence at you thinking you can offend me. ;)
 
@jrg: you need to ragequit
@mateo_salta: perfect way to harvest passwords ;p
 
0.544195584 seconds for that one to crack
 
2:49 AM
Yikes!
 
just don't try real passwords in that...
 
jrg
i've inspected that site, it seemed reasonably secure.
 
just in-case like @JourneymanGeek said...
 
ya, I just tried a same charecter/substitution password
 
a 13 letter with 3 words/number substitution would take a thousand years for a desktop to crack ;p
 
jrg
there are ways around that.
for example, if i know that $service requires everyone to have a password > 10, then well, i just start my brute forcing at 10.
 
I try to think up a phrase and use the first letter of every word, then add some numbers
 
I personally think that passwords should be freeform, with a minimum maximum length of 20 chars
 
jrg
i know two passphrases. the rest of my online life lives on inside my keepass database.
 
2:53 AM
@JourneymanGeek O_o
 
jrg
@JourneymanGeek i'd be ok with that.
i already live like that, so it wouldn't be a hardship.
 
@iSeth: what? you can use a password of up to 20 charecters
not you MUST
but they should allow 20 or more at design level
8 is the shortest I feel happy about and thats the longest in a lot of places
 
@JourneymanGeek ah, ok. I don't think I could come up with 20
 
bl4ckch3rrywin3gr4pes0
not an actual password ;p
 
@jrg how often do you change your keephrase password?
 
2:55 AM
137 quadrillion years
 
but something I'd use if it wasn't actually ... yanno on a chat thats googleable
and its not that hard to remember
 
jrg
@iSeth every 6 months, and all my passwords inside it are on a 3-12 month rotation.
 
@JourneymanGeek I didn't know its googleable
 
jrg
i have three levels of passwords, in order of least important to highest:
 
ya, SE chat can be googled ;p
takes a while to index
I also have some one time use passwords
say for setting up things
 
jrg
2:57 AM
3. linkedin, stuff like that. this gets comprimised, whatever.
 
which are random alphanumerics ;p
 
jrg
2. my secondary email account
1. my FDE passphrases, my keepass, my primary email, my pgp key, and then finally my ssh key. you get this stuff, i'm screwed.
everything falls into one of those categories.
 
@jrg thats pretty powerful though
I try not to leave important info behind.
That doesnt work in email and such though
 
Used up all 40 of my reviews for tonight and tomorrow, (Here). I'm going into withdrawl.
 
jrg
@Flabricorn dang, you're addicted already?! :P
 
3:03 AM
BBL (hopefully)
 
@jrg Don't you have that password that you didn't remember that was about 40 characters that you relied on the browser to store, and yes, yes I am. But if I stop, then I stop contributing, and it's not something as silly as browsing reddit, so I can't block it yet. I just need to... pssssh. Controll.
 
jrg
@Flabricorn i don't have that password.
i rely on keepass to store almost everything.
ah, just put my laptop up on stilts. so much cooler.
 
What if keypass fails? I would edit the HTML on a page from password type to text, and get all that down.
 
jrg
what do you mean?
 
Take a webpage, the password box is filled by dots, or the asterisk.
Simply edit the HTML, by inspecting the element, on the password text field.
You should see something like "Text input: passwd or password or whatever"
Change that to "text" or whatever is used in the above user name box.
Then write it down, and keep some hard copy somewhere safe.
You never know when suddenly.... it's gone.
For instance on Gmail, inspect the element for the password. Then change this line -
<input id="Passwd" type="password" name="Passwd"></input>
<input id="Passwd" type="text" name="Passwd"></input>
Now you can view the password.
Alright, sleep time, goodnight everyone!
 
jrg
3:15 AM
Ohohoh. I know what you mean. I thought you were talking about a different scenario. Yes, that theoretically would work.
 
ah, backing up your own keypass, not hacking another.. makes sense now.
night all
 
3:37 AM
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6:29 AM
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7:20 AM
What school really teaches: 1.) Get up at night 2.) Bad language 3.) Teachers are stupid 4.) Paper is for planes 4.) Pens make nice tatoos 5.) Boys/Girls are yuck
Hi all
 
7:49 AM
For me Community is best School, where I can learn the real world problems , rather than just learning old technologies learned in School and Colleges.
 
appears
 
8:40 AM
Anyone floating?
 
rather stuck on my chair here.
 
@HaydnWVN yeah
 
Hi @jokerdino :)
 
Hi :)
 
How often did you mess up your Glade file with the mouse scroll wheel?
 
8:50 AM
not often
it messes before i even open it
 
lol
Glade3 opens Glade2 files nicely. Displays them in a funny layout. Saves them as Glade3 but when you then load it in your app it still has the old design. Weird weird weird.
 
how difficult is it to redo the whole thing in glade 3?
 
Depends on the numbers of widgets you will have to name.
 
hah
 
Call them radiobutton1, radiobutton2, radiobutton3,... and you're lost forever
 
8:54 AM
ofcourse i rename my widgets to sane names
 
Sane names turn insane over time.
 
radio_unity_reveal_left
well, it's only sane for me.
the rest of the team would not quite figure it out
 
r_u_r_L_button... :D
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:P
 
I found out that if you want to change icons on the GUI it's better to have them numbered. Then you can associate an icon programmaticall in a for i in loop.
 
8:57 AM
whoa
 
works nicely as long as you knwo what the numbers stand for...
 
well, it's pretty tricky
 
played with it the whole weekend. Unitl this tiny empty window bug.
Got it solved yesterday. \o/ Thanks to Foss
 
awesome.
 
while examtimeleft!=0:
    for question in history_exam:
        write.answer(question)
 
9:01 AM
examtime['Takkat'] < 0
 
I wish it was that easy
dammit Renaissance :P
dammit Reformation :P
 
Baroque
 
BBL
 
9:19 AM
Ubuntu - running 24/7 happily, then randomly (in logs) we see tty1 & 2 (local) root logins when we know nobody should have been accessing the server. A few seconds prior it logs a time change and then seems to refresh it's hosts file (which we use for the local network machine entries). Normal behaviour?
 
9:33 AM
@HaydnWVN no idea here. You may want to ask on the site for a larger audience.
 
@Takkat Okies, thx
 
10:07 AM
o/
 
o//
 
10:39 AM
how do i modularize my python file?
D:
 
@jokerdino for system wide access or is it for clean-up only?
 
i don't even know what's that supposed mean :P
i think i would leave it to Mahesh to sort out :P
he is the core dev
 
Core dev sounds great!
 
what's wrong?
we actually have quite a team.
 
You can always split your app into several .py files and import them as module
 
10:45 AM
dedicated designer, icon designer, maintainer, core dev and then me
@Takkat yeah that's what i am thinking how to do
 
Nothing wrong :)
 
@Takkat oh right :P
 
@jokerdino You're the... Mascot? xD
3
 
when people can't take it anymore of programming, he tells a joke
stress reliever
 
11:13 AM
@HaydnWVN that's one way to look at it xD
 
votes for Project Manager
 
@jokerdino - who is your project manager for your myunity-mark-2 app?
 
that might be me
 
you are dishing out the tasks, timelines etc?
 
sorta
if we do indeed have a working piece before the end of the year, then yeah
 
11:26 AM
... deadline is the 13.04 feature freeze whatever that date is?
 
Hi @fossfreedom: thank you for putting me on the right track yesterday. I had to remove dialog tag from the Glade file. Now all is good - no more tiny ghosts.
 
feb 2nd week
i hope that is enough time ;P
 
@Takkat well done for finding that.
@jokerdino sounds ambitious - you going to have to work through christmas - I presume you are about 50% through now? Should be if you are going to make the date.
 
we are almost done with gtk designing. connecting signals with gsettings is the main part remaining.
 
How well is the ARB process working now - few days? couple of weeks?
 
11:31 AM
weeks.
but someone in the board offered help
 
Feb 2nd subtract weeks means not a lot of time. Well done for finding someone to help through the process.
 
yeah. hope it works out ;p
 
hey - just shout if you want any help with reviewing/coding etc - happy to help.
 
oh thank you :D
 
12:29 PM
delete
 
O_O
need more spam flags
 
I never asked this before, but in cases like this, is the user blacklisted?
 
user account gets removed
 
but who decides? its spam counts?
 
ip address is not usually blacklisted because it is just a safety theatre
 
12:33 PM
@jokerdino: I has flags ;p
I can help
 
@EvandroSilva yeah.
@JourneymanGeek the post is gone
 
12:54 PM
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