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9:01 PM
although its probably MSRP there
its hard to support bike shops! even if you want to
 
All about the Nashbar
 
@David I use bib knickers most of the winter and bib tights on really cold days, mostly I get too hot even in the cold
 
i love PBK @ewwhite
get two GP4000S tires for $70
instead of $80/ea @ LBS
 
@David I can get them for about 6that price - I generally use Michelin Krylion Carbon yres
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9:20 PM
@Iain what do you ride?
and you can get GP4000S for how much...?
 
nothing special - a PlanetX SL Pro Carbon
 
nice
I ride a CAAD10 Ultegra
 
Mine stared with Ultegra 6600 and it now has 6700
 
You bicycle people are crazy. I can buy nice current model-year motorcycles for what you pay for new bicycles.
 
 
9:24 PM
@David that costs about the same as mine did
@Adrian mine was £1200 about 5 years ago ~ that's very much at the cheap end of carbon
 
I wanted a SuperSix (carbon), but I wanted Ultegra more than I wanted carbon
 
@Iain I was in REI a few months ago. $2500 buys you a good bike nowadays, not even a great bike.
 
REI ?
 
I keep forgetting they're not international yet. High-end Sporting Goods co-op.
 
Damn you all and your very shiny bicycles!
 
9:27 PM
@Iain surprisingly, the SuperSix w/ 105 (~$2200 I think) weighs more than my CAAD10 w/ Ultegra ($2000)
 
Nothing wrong w/ that @JeffFerland
 
@David I've also upgraded the bars to carbon and the saddle to a specialized toupé TI
 
just be proud you haven't been bit by the bug yet
@Iain only upgrade I did was change my chainrings to Praxis Works
but i'm gonna get new bars and stem some day, as well as carbon clinchers in the future
too cheap/afraid to go carbon stem/bars though, dont wanna have them fail after a cat5 race crash
 
helpful tags?
 
9:33 PM
I can't see
 
@David It gets me around nicely.
 
I find alloy forks a bit harsh
 
There's that
but a $500 bike isnt any slower than a $5000 bike
99% engine, 1% bike!
 
indeed
I'm not a high performance engine by any stretch of the immagination
 
i'm quite slow
because i suck at riding frequently
 
9:38 PM
this year if I'm lucky I'll manage 1200 miles I usually do more than 2.5 x that easily
 
i only rode like 600 something so far
gonna try to do 20mi x 3 during week and 40 on weekend
100mi/week should get me ready for racing
 
Oh god… OH GOD… just got an email from a guy who used to work for a customer before becoming an "IT consultant":
«I have a domain redacted.com hosted through
1and1 however I want to be able to host my own
Email and Web server, and possibly file server - but all
Virtually in Linux, through Parallels on my MAC.

Will your solution include this?

I also need someway to have a user friendly GUI
since I am not well versed in Linux at the moment.
At the very least I would like to hose my own email
and website...
 
@MikeyB Just quote your hourly rate. Usually that makes them go away.
* I would like to hose my own email* You're well on your way, sir!
4
 
@JeffFerland Precisely.
 
@MikeyB Reply with "You are dead to me, do not attempt to contact me again"
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9:45 PM
@JeffFerland Oh, he KNOWS our hourly rate. He previously asked our cost for a SBS license. We told him. He said "I can get it cheaper, will you price match?" "No." "Oh… can you provide me with a quote for a Linux equivalent?" "Here, look at Zimbra." Then we got this ↑↑↑
It's rather like watching a train wreck. And don't forget, he has FOUND CUSTOMERS WHO ARE PAYING HIM FOR IT WORK. Sad, isn't it?
@JeffFerland Exactly what I thought.
 
Plenty of folks in IT with more ego and salesmanship than skill.
 
Also, give me an F, a U, a C, a K. What's that spell? MARKDOWN!
 
FUGIGH. Night!
 
nvm. I'm a moron.
 
@MikeyB Oh good, something else to add to me list of reasons to kill myself.
 
9:56 PM
@WesleyDavid - still looking for HD CCTV Cameras? products.boschsecuritysystems.eu/en/EMEA/products/bxp/…
It's a goddamn 1080p HDR security camera that has an iSCSI initator
 
@MarkHenderson I don't see a price anywhere... probably not a good sign.
 
@HopelessN00b Yeah I'm looking for a price too :P It's designed for high-risk public places
So my guess is it costs quite a pretty penny
 
I Googled for that model + "price"... about 3 results. So I'm thinking I'd rather have the luxury car than that camera.
 
Got it
Not as expensive as you might think
 
/me rants on security.nl
 
10:01 PM
Yeah, that's much less than I though. Hell, for that price, I could get my hands on a half dozen without much difficulty.
 
RAID IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR BACKUPS seems very hard to understand for some people.
 
"Hey, [boss], I need you to approve the purchase of 6 of these cameras... I can handle everything from that point..." :D
 
@HopelessN00b Even cheaper: geminicomputersinc.com/nbn-932v-ip.html
Nobody in this hemisphere seems to have it though
 
Nice. But if I'm going to steal them from work, I don't think getting a better deal for my victim employer is all that high on the list of priorities. :D
 
@HopelessN00b Ah
 
10:03 PM
My previous employer used to deploy similar camaras (Tyco fire and security)
 
I doubt I'd be able to sneak even one of them onto the credit card without the wife noticing :p
 
Always fun when people used cheaper cameras which got blurry in the evening
 
It's only 2MP that Bosch though. You could go with this: avigilon.com/#/products/cameras/hd-pro-cameras/… - 29MP @ 2FPS
And you can fit an SLR lens to it
 
@Hennes And that small business owners generally get the quality of IT help that they pay for, isn't awfully difficult for them to understand? =D
 
No iSCSI initator though, I think the Bosch wins just for that feature alone
 
10:07 PM
@MarkHenderson I was really intrigued until I saw 2FPS. No sense in covertly mounting a bunch of those pointed at my bed if the frame rate's that low. :o
 
@HopelessN00b Yeah I agree. Nobody wants to watch you jerking off, using your tears as lubricant, in 29MP
Regular HD would be fine
 
@MarkHenderson the Bosch is h.264, rather than jpeg2000. Another big deal, at least to me.
 
Rotterdam harbour had a a few donzen (30-ish) of those bosh 2MP. And peple tries to store all those images on a single server. 2 drives, raid 0.
Turned out not to be fast enough
 
@Hennes Need more disks in RAID0!
 
@MarkHenderson Right, right, that's what I'd be doing. Not committing any felonies. Just recording myself.
 
10:09 PM
@Hennes I'm not surprised
 
So they phone for help, got told to use RAID10 and went to IT to 'convert those TWO drives to RAID 10)
 
lol
 
@Hennes who the fuck advised them to use RAID10 to get increased write speed?
 
The technician actually paid enough attention to my previous explanation (when I explained what raid 0 was) that we wanted to use 4 partitions on two drives
The recorder/replay program manufacturor
Which was a 32bit only program
 
http://serverfault.com/questions/434571/raid-10-or-raid-50-on-16x-900-gb-10k-sff-disks

Like 16 disks in RAID 0, perhaps? Hehehe.
 
10:10 PM
We had a nice comedy of errors
 
@HopelessN00b Yeah your comment on that one collected a few flags
 
1) Install. Test with 4 camera's works. Ask IT for a server 2003 licence. (I say no, get your own)
 
@MarkHenderson OH. And got deleted, I see. >:/ Buncha humorless twits on the internet, surprisingly enough.
 
buddy of mine is volunteering for a local charity that had their Compaq server's pair of drives set up as RAID1+0. Apparently the server only offers RAID0 or RAID10.
 
2) test with 10 camera's. Fail. Ask IT. I ask them how much RAM and drives. They move to RAID10 and add a lot of RAM (on windows 32bit, no PEA)
3) I explain 64 bit OS advantages. They download/torrent a 64bit windows OS
 
10:12 PM
@Hennes 32-bit only, meaning it doesn't even load on 64-bit?
 
4) Program fails to work on 32bit hosts
 
@Hennes I'd hope not. Jamming peas into a server can really cause some problems. :p
A server room that smells like burnt peas, for one thing.
 
Did I mention this was my PREVIOUS employer? I am glad I left
 
@Hennes Sounds like some shitty software. what was it called?
 
Crap. thinks
Was 2 years ago, not sure. I remeber it needing a security key on boot etc, but the name evades me
 
10:14 PM
@MarkHenderson Is there such thing as not-shitty software for a security product? I've never seen such a thing.
 
This was shitty software and a good camera technician who did not know anything about computers, IP or whatever. Just give him a VHS equivalant and a coax camera and all works.
 
@HopelessN00b this is true
 
Is there any good way to remotely screw up a fax machine that keeps calling my number?
 
@Zoredache You can tarpit it
 
or something I can do to keep i online so I can make the caller pay a huge long-distance bill?
 
10:16 PM
Do you have a fax of your own?
 
@Hennes no
 
ok. So no faxing back 'get lost, here have a black page of 100'
 
Negotiate the lowest possible speed and lots of transmission errors back
 
@Zoredache I'd use my Google phone number to automatically dial it every 5 seconds until the year 2019.
Long live VOIP.
 
Forward the number to the reception of the dailers firm?
 
10:17 PM
@HopelessN00b Might fall out of Fair Use I think :p
 
*21#new number@ style?
 
@Hennes With digital fax inboxes, I suspect that wouldn't have as much of an effect as you would like
 
What Use?

`Error: "Fair," definition not found.`
 
Well, the human reception
 
Set for 2400 baud
Reply to ever frame with a request to resend the frame
 
10:19 PM
@Zoredache Sounds like the answer is "get a fax machine and fuck with them"
 
@MarkHenderson Backburnered, but always taking names.
 
Ooh, bonus! v.27 is half-duplex
Answer and never stop talking :)
 
@JeffFerland OH, oh, oh! Forward the number to a dialup modem! :D
 
@HopelessN00b Where the fuck are you going to find a dialup modem?
nvm looks like there a billion on ebay
What the fuck? A PCI-E Fax Modem
.... WHY?!
 
Yeah, ebay, or my box of paperweights.
 
10:24 PM
Anyway @voretaq7 - there's your answer ;)
I'm thinking set it to v.27 and ask for retransmission of every frame
 
probably so you can put it on a Micro-sized motherboard.

We use a bunch of those in our manufacturing plants, and if there's anywhere you'd need a modem in this day and age, it would probably be attached to some piece of industrial machinery somewhere.
 
@HopelessN00b Interesting. I guess I forget about industrial applications; we don't have a POTS service at home, nor POTS at work
VoIP all the way
 
Amen to that, but not everyone's on board with this whole "technology" fad. Like the government, the whole reason faxes still exist, for example. >:/

I actually had to install a brand new fax, on an actual "telephone line," and then the associated drivers so our systems can communicate with the piece of shit as recently as last week. It feels so wrong and evil to be doing in this day and age... but government requirements demand it. :(
 
@HopelessN00b As do doctors and nurses for sending prescriptions and medical records. =/
 
@HopelessN00b Lawyers too. Our solicitor asked for my fax number the other day so he could send me a contract. I actually had to stifle back a laugh. In the end the joke was on me because then I had to pay for a goddamn courier to send me the originals.
 
10:32 PM
@Adrian on account of the government, probably... otherwise it'd be encrypted email.
 
@HopelessN00b Our docs & nurses hate technology. It's probably how they end up here at the end of the line.
 
Could be that too, I suppose... but I do know that when you're in an industry where you must send most of your documents via fax or registered courier as your only options, because it's mandated by law, email seems to be ignored or forgotten about as a communication medium.
Hell, my doctor's pretty tech savvy (and every employee there has tablets, rather than dead trees for notes and patient files), and his biggest problem is getting the computers to communicate with the fax machines he needs to keep around and use for some legal requirement.
 
@HopelessN00b Younger doctors are getting more and more tech savvy. I do contract work for a doctors office that has half a rack of tech gear, and my wifes cousin who is a neurosurgeon with 3 different offices in 3 hospitals has a fully integrated network between all the sites so she can access all her resources from wherever
And in Australia hand-written prescriptions are virtually un-heard of in the last 5 years
 
@MarkHenderson AMURKA STRONG
 
@MarkHenderson Well, my doc's about 70... so kudos to him for that, but that reminds me... all his prescriptions are printed out, wirelessly, and have to be hand signed, because state (?) law mandates no electronic signatures for prescriptions. Lol.
 
10:42 PM
@HopelessN00b That makes sense. ours are printed and hand signed as well
Otherwise I could just steal prescription paper and write my own, like in the olden days :p
Although I'm fairly sure they would only check the signatures if they suspected fraud
 
Oh, you still can. At least here. Because the accepted way of sending a prescription to a local pharmacy... is to fax it over.

*<rolleyes>*
 
@HopelessN00b We have to take our own prescriptions to the pharmacy here
 
Oh, well, if you ever need a fraudulent prescription filled, now you know which state to fax it to, right?
 
@MikeyB I haven't had such a good, genuine lol in such a long time
Wow, that's intense.
Linux in Parallels on your Mac to host your website and email, except with a control panel because you don't know Linux. I hope hope he was going to use his 11" Air.
Because I know I sure do!
Oh, and Gentoo.
 
11:05 PM
@HopelessN00b As does vmware. How's that for irony?
 
@MikeyB Oh, geez... alright, I'm intrigued. For what does VMWare require faxes?
 
@WesleyDavid Nice to be appreciated. He's just so earnest about it! Can't wait to crush his soul.
"can't wait to crush" was all predicted-text.
 
@MikeyB Crushing n00b souls is the best perk of this job (that, strangely, they don't teach you about in class, or disclose in the interviews), isn't it?
And speaking of n00b souls, how's this for timing? 51 seconds ago...
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Q: How to find out what program is sending emails

SinanI have linux (debian) box which is running fine. However I have problem I need to find out what program is sending emails when i use "mail" command. Or for that matter when a PHP script is sending emails with mail() function I need to know what program is sending those emails. How can I find out?

 
Aug 13 at 18:24, by MikeyB
From VMWare: "Thank you for your purchase order… please sign and return the quote."
/me whips out 'gpg -s'
Ugh using hover webpage functionality on a tablet.
 
@MikeyB Fucktarded JavaScript pop-ups on mobile sites make me want to kill myself. CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD OUR MOBILE APP. No, I'm good actually, I came here to read text, not install a whole new "app" just to view a website
 
11:14 PM
@MikeyB You sure? I'm almost positive I've sent pdf purchase authorizations to VMWare before.
 
@MikeyB Anyone who's a Gin-You-Wine IT person knows that if you're going to virtualize your email, website and file server on your laptop, you use VMware Fusion.
@JoelESalas You are so unhip.
 
Hmm. Am I so out of practice with Linux that I got this wrong?
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A: How to find out what program is sending emails

HopelessN00bThe program that the mail command calls... is called mail. Therefore, the program you're using when you type mail at the command line would be "mail." Linux / Unix Command: mail Command Library NAME mail - send and receive mail SYNOPSIS mail [-iInv ] [-s subject ] [-c cc-addr ] [-b bcc-addr ] ...

The mail command in *nix calls the program named... mail ... right?
 
@HopelessN00b didn't -1 you, but I don't think php's mail() function is shelling out to call mail.
 
Oh, I see that in the comments now. OP needs to learn how to ask questions better.
 
What the hell happened here?
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Q: YUM Update Failed with calledback

Tiffany WalkerRunning "yum update" and it gets to installing and then breaks. Not sure what the problem is. Google shows nothing. Error in POSTIN scriptlet in rpm package gtk2-2.18.9-10.el6.x86_64 error: error creating temporary file /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.NB84HC: Invalid argument error: Couldn't create temporary f...

 
11:27 PM
@HopelessN00b Also mail can (it is on Debian) a symlink to /etc/alternatives/mail... which in turn is a symlink to something else, bsd-mailx, by default, which is the mail you're thinking of.
 
@ewwhite I've seen weird stuff like that, but only when doing a massive upgrade from CentOS 4 to 5 to 6
 
I hear people complain about RPM "dependency hell", but often times, you have to do something to get into this funky state.
 
@jscott Yup, like how I change the system variables on the helldesk's Windows boxes to redirect cmd.exe to execute the renamed shutdown.exe instead, on account of being cruel and all that.
@ewwhite Such as installing a RHEL-based distro? :p
 
@HopelessN00b Ha! do you stick -s -f -t 0 in there for extra efficient processing?
 
@ewwhite If I had to guess, someone needed a core library and just force-installed it
That situation is fixable, it's just really slow going and you'd better pray you don't reboot
 
11:32 PM
@jscott I like to use 5 for the -t switch, so they know what's happening, and so I can hear the loud expletives across the office, actually.
 
@HopelessN00b Even better!
 
* cloudlinux-x86_64-server-6: cl.banahosting.com
Yeah, eff-that...
 
It's actually a great test to figure out how much someone actually knows about Windows (and how smart they actually are)... had one kid that spent a week rebooting his machine thusly, until he complained that his machine must be defective, because it kept randomly rebooting itself.

*<sigh>*

Only time I can think of I that I wanted to be a manager, so I could tell him he was fired.
 
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Q: cups log kills ubuntu 12.04 and sudoer permissions changed

peterretiefI am using Ubuntu 12.04 as a desktop and recently had a weird crash with the log file for cups filling up the entire drive and not letting me back in, also what changed was /var/lib/sudo had changed from root to peter (me) I didn't make this change - I checked the history! I set the sudoers bac...

 
11:56 PM
@ewwhite How do these people find SF
 
I'd say, look at the comment strings below:
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A: YUM Update Failed - Error in POSTIN scriptlet in rpm package

ewwhiteCan you check to make sure you have free space? Run a df -h to see. Also check the permissions on the required temporary directories. Run ls -ld /var/tmp/. Update: I would just download the offending package directly, OR see if you can install yum-utils (either via yum OR direct download and ...

 
Hahahaha
 
I'm 1 minute and one vote from a repcap...
and I wasted my time on that shit.
 
@ewwhite Shameless, but I gave it to you
 

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