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@M.A.R. The Bernie meme is sorta played by now, innit? Or oughta be?
@Robusto Today I was browsing somewhere and it wasn't. But I can't recall where it was
Some subreddit? I dunno
 
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03:00
The British had Indian slaves in the 17th and 18th centuries. I don't know that I knew that.
> What further aided the Indian slave trade throughout New England and the South was that different tribes didn't recognize themselves as members of the same race, dividing the tribes among each other.
> The resulting Native American slave trade devastated the southeastern Native American populations and transformed tribal relations throughout the Southeast.
> The British settlers, especially those in the southern colonies, purchased or captured Native Americans to use as forced labor in cultivating tobacco, rice, and indigo. Accurate records of the numbers enslaved do not exist. Slaves became a caste of people who were foreign to the English (Native Americans, Africans and their descendants) and non-Christians.
Slavery among Native Americans in the United States includes slavery by and slavery of Native Americans roughly within what is currently the United States of America. Tribal territories and the slave trade ranged over present-day borders. Some Native American tribes held war captives as slaves prior to and during European colonization. Some Native Americans were captured and sold by others into slavery to Europeans, while others were captured and sold by Europeans themselves. In the late 18th and 19th centuries, a small number of tribes adopted the practice of holding slaves as chattel property...
03:26
You could say, the British enslaved the entire country of India.
While child slave labor is alive to this day there.
04:13
@Cerberus that mentality, unfortunately is not going to change; even with very strong evidence from neuroscience these days.
At least with this established generation.
Perhaps, I should ask on medical.se?
> this book also contains the description of the Roman heat exchangers, which were called "dracones", or "miliaria" - I came across this on Wikipedia, and thought "is this vandalism?", and I could not tell.
Naturales quaestiones is a Latin work of natural philosophy written by Seneca around 65 AD. It is not a systematic encyclopedia like the Naturalis Historia of Pliny the Elder, though with Pliny's work it represents one of the few Roman works dedicated to investigating the natural world. Seneca's investigation takes place mainly through the consideration of the views of other thinkers, both Greek and Roman, though it is not without original thought. One of the most unusual features of the work is Seneca's articulation of the natural philosophy with moralising episodes that seem to have little to...
I googled for "miliaria", and this must be the mile stone.
I googled for "dracones" and found nothing about heat exchangers.
04:34
@CowperKettle Hello.
Can I ask you something?
04:52
@riskymysteries Sure
 
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12:05
@Gigili oh! I didn't know about artsandculture.google. Thanks!
12:59
+1°C
@Gigili Cool, but my laptop had a heart attack on that page, and I was forced to close it.
Maybe because I disabled the 3d video accelerator, if I recall correctly.
I need to enable it.
13:19
@Gigili The Blob Opera is fantastic.
13:52
@Gigili Nice!
14:23
> Carriers of a single PKU allele do not exhibit symptoms of the disease but appear to be protected to some extent against the fungal toxin ochratoxin A.
Thus phenylketonuria sufferers are the payment for the advantage enjoyed by others.
15:17
@CowperKettle Cool!
If I am ever privileged to visit Sverdlovsk I will be sure to get a ride on your electric tram.
> For one thing, men smoke and drink more.
If this is the case, perhaps it could be said that smoke and drink carry an important responsibility in these deaths.
@Conrado Especially in the once-and-future Soviet Union.
> In Russia, where male drinkers outnumber female ones by four-to-one, alcohol was responsible for about three-quarters of all deaths among working-age men during the 1990s, widening the gender gap in life expectancy to more than 12 years. It is now down to ten years, the same as in neighbouring Belarus and Ukraine, thanks in part to a big reduction in drinking.
15:22
@Conrado I love trams, they indeed look cool
@tchrist Ah, yes, it is already said.
> Aggressive and risky behaviour also plays a role. Men are more likely to die violently, in car crashes or in other accidents. In El Salvador, one of the few countries where the life-expectancy gap between the genders has increased since 2000, gang violence is partly to blame. Men are also less likely to seek medical help than women.
@tchrist: Interesting bit of Mexican slang: poner salsa a los tacos meaning "to exaggerate."
Stubborn folks, we are.
@Robusto heh
@Robusto There's also aderezar for dressing something up. Like a salad. I could imagine that conveying the same meaning in the right context.
15:30
Lotta figurative language related to food.
It has a positive connotation in Acompañar una acción con algo que le añade gracia o adorno.
I think the Mexican expression is always a bit pejorative, similar to "gilding the lily."
The adornments here are useless or superfluous.
15:53
It's the pandemic Super Bowl Friday, let's get this party started!!!
KC –3
> Gabacho is the insulting word in Mexico for gringo; in Spain, it is a way of rubbishing a French person.
And here I thought gringo was insulting enough. @tchrist ^
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@user85795 Easy there, sailor.
Pardon the interruption.
@user85795 This is about Trump's golden toilet, right?
15:59
Yup.
This is the game we flush his memory away.
I got a feeling it's going to be a history making game.
They played the pro bowl online due to coV
lol, well said
Imagine the ignominy of a powered throne that you couldn’t flush during a brownout.
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There's a special place in hell waiting for them.
@user85795 It's like the old showbiz saying: "Be nice to people on your way up because you'll see all the same faces on your way down."
So it's best to stay at the bottom so you can be mean to everyone
Appealing to the bass instincts again I see.
or cod, or herring
well, I suppose plaice is more appropriate
Not sure I like the tenor here.
16:21
Or just ignore stupid ladders and do your own thing. And always adhere to etiquette, and be kind.
But at the bottom there's nobody below you to be mean to?
so you can be mean to the people above you
As Kant said, never treat a human being only as a means; you must always treat someone also as an end.
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The merely average are always mean.
@MattE.Эллен That seems to be the Trump cult's plan.
16:24
@Robusto this is the problem with metrics. they think they're succeeding
@Robusto Por no ser gente culta.
@MattE.Эллен American Imperial foot-pounds per pint for the win!
@Mitch that's quite a dense statement
Who wants newtons per square pascal?
@Mitch There's an Imperium Americanum?
16:28
stone miles per second per Svedberg per mmHg²
@tchrist Guam?
WHAM!
that was last Christmas
cripes I should look at those before I post
:classic
16:29
or rather I shouldn't look
No Corona Agogo.
so many shiny white teeth
All the better to Mr Shiny you with.
and New
Hi @Mr Shiny and New
Hi @MetaEd
Hi @JasonBourne
Hi ...
Who'd I miss?
Hi @KitFox
Hi @snailboat
16:33
@KitZ.Fox
> My wife left me because of my obsession with horoscopes. It Taurus part.
Hi @... hey what did your username used to be @user85795?
@Mitch Aren't they sk(u/i)llpatrol?
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My name has remained the same since one certain ELU chat resident requested it
It was 2017 or something
16:35
@M.A.R. Or was it @boatpatrol? or @skiffpatrol? or...?
Feels like 13 years ago
Petrol
@Mitch all aliases to throw off enemy's scent
@M.A.R. you tended to change every other month. it was hard to keep track
@M.A.R. I take a shower instead
Eh, I was a dork
16:36
@M.A.R. What does the Enemy smell like?
Unicodifying the heck out of my username
@M.A.R. it certainly was ages. We've all grown so much since then
@tchrist grilled shrimp
@M.A.R. 'was'? ha ha ha ha hah ha ha. Pretty dorky retort.
@M.A.R. The saltamontañoso kind?
16:37
@M.A.R. that's a pretty good smell
That sounds too fancy to be dinner
microwaved shrimp on the other hand...
Not sure these locusts are kosher.
@Mitch I'm picky with my enemies
@tchrist Some varieties of locust are kosher
16:38
AFAIK carnivores are haram
Few herbivores are haram too
I think some are not kosher whether they swarm or not.
Or "makrooh", which means it's not banned but it's frowned upon
I think anything that swarms is not kosher.
@Mitch why are swarms un-kosher?
Walrus, jellyfish, moss
@M.A.R. Why are lions not kosher?
16:39
Tuna fish have those large groups, though you wouldn't call it a swarm
Still
danged if I know
maybe because they're competitors?
so it's uncool?
Well, the stories behind our stamps are riddled with superstition
I think the reasons are all "I'm an old crotchety guy and I don't like the taste of broccoli so eff you all, no broccoli for anyone"
Like eating this sort of meat will make you grouchy or something like that
They were the annoying vegans before annoying meat-eaters was cool
Or worse, the old crotchety guy says "I love broccoli but I just don't feel like it tonight" and then somehow te could heard "screw broccoli" and it was never kosher again.
@M.A.R. Stamps on the other hand are totally kosher.
16:42
That broccoli was possessed
it was a tiny tinge towars maybe a little bit yellowy on that one side. BAN IT TO HELL.
Somehow I can't recall any good recent horror movie about plants
There's Shyamalan's meme-riddled The Happening
For the record, If I never had broccoli again I wouldn't notice.
I don't actively dislike it, but...
@Mitch I hate it when the iron or whatever in lettuce oxidizes and it turns brown
given a choice of X vs x with broccoli I'd totally on board with X.
@M.A.R. ew
Cook the hell out of the broccoli, mash it up, stir it in so I don't see it at all, I'm totally gonna eat that if I can't tell it's in there and nobody tells me there is broccoli in it.
16:46
Garlic, on the other hand
The way people like garlic makes me feel like I'm missing out on something
I like broccoli
But if there's a big honking tree of it on the plate in front of the ... whatever .. pretty much anything else... then GTFOH broccoli you're in the way.
Last time I went to the store with a couple of self-checkout machines, I noticed that they actually recognize the fruit I put on the scale. I put a bunch of bananas, and the machine highlighted the banana button. I put a transparent bag with apples, and the machine highlited the apples buttons. Amazing.
@CowperKettle You just wait until they put voice recognition there
No stickers with electronic tags on the fruit?
16:47
@Cerberus No, you have to weigh them on the machine
@MattE.Эллен ponders the horizon
For some reason humans will be able to travel to Alpha Centauri before we'd make good speech recognition software
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@M.A.R. Voice recognition is already very good in phones.
Not in my experience
@Mitch some of my best friends are Brassicales
16:48
@CowperKettle Perhaps the weighing is just in case the tags are wrong or not picked up by the machine?
But, yeah, probably not.
When my brother bought a new smartphone for my mother, she pressed the voice recognition button and asked what it was. I stood several meters from her, in the corridor, and I explained what it was. It turned out the phone perfectly recognized all my speech and put in out on the screen. LOL
@M.A.R. I don't agree with that. I think they'e figuring things out pretty well. It's not the best right now, especially if you don't speak a standard dialect of whatever. But they're making progress.
Get out of town
@Cerberus No, there are absolutely no tags on fruit and vegetables here.
I have never managed to get a single sentence right
16:49
You pick them by hand into a transparent bag
It is the same here.
@MattE.Эллен picks at fingernails
Only normal stickers, as far as I know.
@M.A.R. Get back into town
@M.A.R. Well, it's not 100% pefrect, but considering it's a machine, it's almost perfect
16:50
@M.A.R. They have a lot of room for progress, but they are constantly getting better.
Constantly very slowly getting better
I've learned not to use google assistant while driving though.
Who knew our next scientific breakthrough would have been to make better vaccines.
Boooring.
@M.A.R. I mean priorities right?
It took humans several thousand years in the African plain to start making slightly better stone axe surfaces. Speech recognition is getting better with a speed of an explosion compared to that.
16:52
We achieve anything best when it's an urgent need
I remember watching a program about that. They said there was a whole "stone axe factory" for several thousand years, and by the end of that period the humans discovered some better ways of making axes.
@M.A.R. Also Alpha Centauri is pretty far.
If a huge asteroid set on its collision course towards Earth we'd suddenly discover interstellar travel maybe
Then come back and yell at our kids behind bookshelves
@M.A.R. That's when that movie lost me.
like you chose a -bookcase- to go behind?
choose maybe a lamp and use morse code
-something-
@Mitch Yeah, it's kinda disappointing that it's very likely that millions of planets harbor life but it's also very likely that we will never ever see them, or them us
16:55
but pushing books off a bookcase? what are you some kind of cat?
@M.A.R. it -is- disappointing
maybe we -are- special?
We're special so much as it matters
We're gonna visit all these star systems in spaceships that take 10,000 years to get there and all we're gonna find is -maybe- amino acids.
Probably the only example of life in a several light-year radius
-maybe-
Sci-fi books make you think people just hop from one planet to the next
16:58
and that it takes seconds to dock a spaceship -and- go through an airlock.
@Mitch And we can't even stop worrying about crazy leaders making the planet uninhabitable several decades in the future, or we can't make governments give a damn about a project for more than a couple of years
democratically electing leaders doesn't work well when the idiot populace elects idiots
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people are idiots
people (who are not idiots) keep telling me "hey dude, uncool man, they're not idiots, they 'low information' voters"
and all I can think is "that is what an idiot is"
my apologies to those who are actual idiots.
I don't get how 1.1 is archaic
it looks just the same as 1
oh, now you're calling me the idiot
You're not voting on the definition so I think you're safe for now
for now
first they came for the idiots, and I said nothing, because I'm an idiot
17:17
I'm reading about phenylketonuria, and for some reason Turkey has an incidence 4X that of the most of countries. One in 2600 vs. one in 10000.
17:53
Another tram photo I made today
This is the main prospect, Lenina Street, that runs from the east to the west of the city
On the right is the large telegraphy office building built in the late 1920s in the Constructivist style
Дом связи (здание главпочтамта) — здание, расположенное в Екатеринбурге, на проспекте Ленина, дом 39, и построенное в 1933 году архитекторами К. И. Соломоновым и В. Д. Соколовым. Здание выполнено в форме конструктивизма 1930-х годов. У входа в здание Главпочтамта вмонтирована круглая рельефная бронзовая плита, символизируюшая нулевой километр.. == Архитектура == По проекту административное здание в деловом центре Свердловска расположено на площади Труда (Екатерининская площадь), на пересечении улиц Толмачева и Пушкина. Пяти-шестиэтажное здание с П-образным формой имеет со стороны улицы Толмачева...
"Bunker King", with Putin's face
18:52
On Strava, "Evening Run" sounds beautiful in Spanish: corrida vespertina
19:16
> A mute citizen of St. Petersburg was fined 5000 rubles for "chanting political slogans" during the pro-Navalny rally. He has grade III disability due to his absent hearing, and is unable to speak. zona.media/news/2021/02/05/agafonov
When he was confronted by the police during the rally, he made gestures indicating his inability to speak, but was apprehended along with the others. He spent 9 hours at the police station, during which no mute-person interpreter was provided to him.
The policemen just use a "carbon-copy" template with pre-determined phrases, and they just fill in the names of all persons they managed to grab in the streets.
Thus, sometimes such funny mishaps occur.
19:44
Russian journalists today published an investigation. They discovered that the Head of the Russian police has a 3-storey mansion, 1200 square meters, that costs some USD 20 million.
> Doctor in charge of treating Alexei Navalny in Russia after Novichok poisoning dies suddenly and 'very unexpectedly' of suspected heart attack aged 55
Oh those 'sudden' deaths in Russia
20:29
Pretty horrible.
Putin is panicking.
 
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@CowperKettle So much for Thou shalt not suffer a poisoner to live. Clearly, not an Orthodox princple.
@Cerberus He has nothing to fear.
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@CowperKettle Yes, both in the raw phonaesthetical appeal as well as in the more extended connotational one related to the canonical hour of Vespers.
Just don't have a corrida a las cinco de la tarde; SPOILER ALERT: the bullfighter dies.
22:29
Totally a cappella
Well now, we just hit a new daily high for Covid deaths: > 5,000. Geezis keerist.
 
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@tchrist Dude. You gave it away.
That story was written from the point of view of the bull.

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