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@Sdjz Yeah. It's tough working backwards; basically have to rack your brain for all the rogues in D&D history and see which one fits; made especially difficult because you have to remember their titles that they've had over the years

Carcer

oh demogorgon

completely fell out of my brain there

I have a strong suspicion that AtLotN is going to be A-something, the Lord of the North

but no idea what the A is

wait

it's not Asmodeus the Lord of the Nine, is it?

I feel doubtful that's actually a title that has been used

Sdjz

XtE reminds me of Xanathar just because of XGtE probably

Xanathar the Everything

Carcer

it might be "Xanathar the Eye"

David Coffron

@Carcer Lord of the Ninth (as in the ninth circle of hell)

@Carcer Bingo!

Carcer

ah, Lord of the Ninth! that'd make sense

I mean the Nine also works since he's overlord of hell generally

Sdjz

4:12 PM

That leaves KtWtW

David Coffron

Hint: More of an old-school villain (not that the others aren't)

Carcer

my brain is seeing tWtW and making "that Wounds the World" which is probably spurious nonsense

JohnP

@DavidCoffron K'Varn?

Rubiksmoose

I was thinking "K[] the W[noun] that W[verb?]"

David Coffron

@JohnP That's "K'Varn the Mad" IIRC

NautArch

4:15 PM

@Rubiksmoose that's disgusting. you should be ashamed of yourself.

David Coffron

@Rubiksmoose That's the right structure

Rubiksmoose

@NautArch lol

JohnP

Kastighur, then? But they're a group.

Rubiksmoose

Worm that Walks?

David Coffron

@JohnP I don't think I know that one

Rubiksmoose

4:15 PM

Is that a thing?

David Coffron

@Rubiksmoose Aaay!

JohnP

Kyuss, the Worm that Walks!

Rubiksmoose

Wow I have no idea where I pulled that from. Teamwork!

JohnP

One of the Elder Evils, IIRC.

goodguy5

that guy's a Jerk

JohnP

4:17 PM

@goodguy5 don't be hatin'

goodguy5

I'll hate all I want!

NautArch

@goodguy5 Have you ever heard the tragedy of...

JohnP

@goodguy5 I hate that.

Carcer

oh

oh JohnP beat me to it

I got distracted by my actual job, no fair

Rubiksmoose

@Carcer Who needs a job. We need more D&D puzzles ;-)

Carcer

4:22 PM

LDQoS

that one's probably very easy

goodguy5

Lady D, Queen of S?

Carcer

one right

I feel like I'm playing mastermind again

goodguy5

Hrm.... LD Queen of Shadows, I assume.

Carcer

... one right

goodguy5

dang

It'd be unlikely that queen wasn't the right word.

Lady D, Quail of Shadows ;)

Carcer

4:26 PM

heheh

none

goodguy5

good

It's D&D related, right?

Carcer

oh yes

goodguy5

Like, I'm not trying to find one of the Warrior Queens of old Scottland, or something

Carcer

and with good pedigree going back to 1e

goodguy5

ooooh

Oh, wait, it's obvious. I just need to figure out the D

NautArch

4:28 PM

@goodguy5 dragons?

Carcer

where does she live

nitsua60

I just read the dice left-to-right, and announce a vague priority of targeting beforehand. Yes, it means that the enemies go down a *little* faster than they might, because the summonees are used at maximal efficiency. ("wolf 1 rolls 16 for 7 damage" "hit" "wolf 2 rolls 12 for 8 damage" "miss" "wolf 3 rolls 19 for 5 damage" "hit, first orc is down" "okay, now wolf 4 is on to orc 2....")
But turns/initiative are already a sequentialization of a chaotic fiction, so it doesn't bother me too much.

CollinB

"Lady Duck, Quail of Shadows"

Carcer

that most famous of D&D villains

the D is very simple though

goodguy5

Lolth Demonweb, Queen of Spiders

I can't figure out the d

Carcer

4:30 PM

Demon

Lolth, Demon Queen of Spiders

NautArch

@nitsua60 yeah, i think this is actually getting more complicated than it needs to be. Creating scenarios where the 'easy summon button' doesn't always work is my primary solution to this (after talking to the group.)

Carcer

she lives in the abyss

goodguy5

oh, derp

I was putting the comma in the wrong place

CollinB

rip

David Coffron

HBtMM

that one might be really tough depending on how familiar you are with the source material

goodguy5

4:31 PM

Harold Blackstone! (A joke to myself, about one of my favorite characters I made)

nitsua60

@NautArch My favorite easy summon was 24 draft horses summoned 60' above Acererak's head.

David Coffron

@goodguy5 tell me it's not the "mass murderer" ;)

goodguy5

Magnificent Man

Carcer

Halaster Blackwhatever the Mad Mage

Blackcloak, I think?

David Coffron

@Carcer You got it.

nitsua60

4:32 PM

SSDtM

Carcer

Seven-Sided Die the Moderator

nitsua60

^^

Carcer

wait, I was right?

nitsua60

=)

yup

Carcer

this was meant to be for villains

nitsua60

4:34 PM

I'm sure they've done something bad in their life?

Carcer

probably.

nitsua60

d7

see--failing to appear when rightfully summoned!

Carcer

still, having seen the name abbreviated to SSD often enough that one jumped out at me

NautArch

@nitsua60 trying and failing to make some sort of falling horse related joke.

JohnP

@Carcer I see SSD and think Solid State Drive. :p

Carcer

4:35 PM

@JohnP yeah, that competes for my brainspace

Himitsu_no_Yami

@V2Blast I am cus I took a level dip in fighter

David Coffron

Here's my favorite villain: VtCG

JohnP

Vecna?

David Coffron

@JohnP Quite.

Carcer

also SSSD, for System Security Services Daemon

Vecna the something God

David Coffron

4:36 PM

@Carcer Chained

Carcer

not familiar with that appellation

JohnP

huh. I never knew Vecna was an anagram of Vance.

Carcer

oh, a bunch of stuff from that era was just anagrams of gygax's friends names wasn't it

NautArch

did y'all see the meme on corona/raccoon and umbrella corp?

David Coffron

@Carcer Now that you say it, isn't Tharizdun also "the chained god"

JohnP

4:38 PM

VtMoAtiSaH

nitsua60

Five to ponder: CtPoC, ItPoF, OtPoE, OtPoW, YtPoA.

Carcer

@DavidCoffron "the chained oblivion", at least as far as I know from Critical Role.

David Coffron

@JohnP isn't it master of all things secret or hidden?

JohnP

> He is known as the Master of All that is Secret and Hidden, the Arch-Lich, the Chained God, the Maimed God, Master of the Spider Throne, the Whispered One, the Dying King, the Lord of the Rotted Tower, and the Undying King

NautArch

Why do I have a feeling Kryan would just come in here and give all the answers?

Carcer

4:39 PM

@nitsua60 looks like a lot of X the Y of Z

David Coffron

@nitsua60 lots of "Po*" so I'm thinking these are princes of something

goodguy5

BtPD (KotGD)

JohnP

So, VtMoAtiSaHtALtCGtMGMotSTtWOtDKtLotRTtUK

Carcer

@DavidCoffron they'll be elementals

Prince of Fire, Prince of Earth, (water, air)

David Coffron

Ah it's the elemental princes, Imix the Prince of Fire. Ogremoch, Prince of Earth are the only two I remember

I thought there were only 4, who's CtPoC

Carcer

4:40 PM

@JohnP The Artist Formerly Known as Vecna

JohnP

TAFKaV?

Carcer

@goodguy5 Bahamut the Platinum Dragon, King of Good Dragons

goodguy5

^

Carcer

not villainous but I guess we're evolving!

David Coffron

@JohnP No that's the Taffy Cavalier

JohnP

4:42 PM

> The evil archomentals are collectively known as the Princes of Elemental Evil. The five most famous include:

Cryonax: Prince of Evil Cold Creatures

Imix: Prince of Evil Fire Creatures

Ogrémoch: Prince of Evil Earth Creatures

Olhydra: Princess of Evil Water Creatures

Yan-C-Bin: Prince of Evil Air Creatures

Two further archomentals, Uzrith of Earth and Alyolvoy of Water, are mentioned in "The Mud Sorcerer's Tomb" in Dungeon #37. They are powerful and possessive evil elemental beings who created at least one of seven magical vessels called the Ships of Earth and Sea, which have the abi…

goodguy5

I didn't realize we were bound to evil

nitsua60

@JohnP ding, ding

Carcer

the original premise was initialising villain names

goodguy5

ah

David Coffron

@goodguy5 It was me playng on the fact that acronyms are scary to those not in on the lexicon (I made a joke about VPN and DNS)

I can't think of any iconic illithid villains. Who am I missing?

Yuuki

4:44 PM

I mean, as a hivemind, I suppose that's the point.

Carcer

Specific Illithid is the name of my fantasy punk rock band

goodguy5

What's the acronym for the sound of telephathy?

Carcer

telephanty

David Coffron

@Carcer Sound of Telepathy is my Indie Rock band

Yuuki

@goodguy5 SAG (Simon and Garfunkel)

David Coffron

4:50 PM

Going a bit outside of D&D, but still in RPG-land, you've got AtRQ

Or a related: KCotBL

goodguy5

Kurt Cobain?

David Coffron

@goodguy5 haha. That is kind of hilarious considering the last is "of the Blood Lords" (also, that's a hint)

Yuuki

@DavidCoffron Kookie Crisp?

Or as they say in the commercials, KooOOOOOoOOookie Crisp?

goodguy5

gotta be some chaos general or something

David Coffron

@Yuuki Yeah, only when said that way though ;)

@goodguy5 Close to the opposite actually

goodguy5

4:55 PM

a law private?

Carcer

King Crimson

JohnP

Kemnebi, Chancellor of the Blood Lords.

David Coffron

@JohnP ding, ding, ding

JohnP

my google-fu is strong today.

David Coffron

@JohnP Did it help you find AtRQ?

Carcer

4:56 PM

tLoP

JohnP

Although I knew he was a chancellor, that helped.

goodguy5

@Carcer the Lost of Phandelver :P

Carcer

hah

no

Hot RPG Questions

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Q: When True Polymorphed and making concentration saves, what stats do I use?

If I true polymorph myself, when I make a concentration save, should I use my character's or monster's statistics? And if I have relevant feats can I use them?

Yuuki

JPTDMotSoGF

David Coffron

4:57 PM

@Carcer Lady of Pain?

Carcer

@DavidCoffron yeah, she's an easy one.

I mean, to guess.

David Coffron

@Yuuki John Paul Tetris Dune Monkey of the Sands of Greater Fantasia

Yuuki

I mean, you got the first one right.

And the lowercase ones.

David Coffron

3/10, just like my batting average (googles and finds out that's a pretty good batting average, so that's not accurate)

JohnP

@DavidCoffron someone the Red Queen?

David Coffron

4:58 PM

@JohnP mhm

Carcer

yeah I'm thinking Red Queen but would have no idea what the A is without googling

David Coffron

@Carcer I guess Pathfinder villains don't have the same weight of publishing behind them

JohnP

@Carcer there was a D&D offshoot game about an Android named the Red Queen...

Carcer

@DavidCoffron oh yeah I know almost zilch about pathfinder's actual setting

David Coffron

@Carcer Nor do I to be honest. I just googled some up

Yuuki

5:01 PM

I suppose there's a question of whether it's "JPTDMotSoGF", "@JPTDMotSoGF", or "@TDMotSoGF".

David Coffron

@Yuuki A twitter villain?

Yuuki

@JohnP, Tenth-Dan Master of the School of Google-Fu

David Coffron

@Yuuki Curse his villainous ways!

;)

Carcer

D:FotN(CotS)

Yuuki

Dcastlevania: Fsymphony of the Night.

I'll figure out the rest later.

Carcer

5:09 PM

heh

David Coffron

@Carcer Father of the N*?

Carcer

no

this one is admittedly not D&D

or even RPG

it just popped into my head

goodguy5

Dracula?

David Coffron

@goodguy5 I think that would just be: D, C. (Dracula, Count)

goodguy5

I would think so, but there could be further titles I don't know

Carcer

5:16 PM

no

it's Dayman: Fighter of the Nightman (Champion of the Sun)

David Coffron

@Carcer Oh. Haven't heard of that oen

Yuuki

@Carcer TG:LTWPiP

Carcer

itsalwayssunny.fandom.com/wiki/The_Dayman

Yuuki

The Gang: Literally The Worst People in Philadelphia

Carcer

I don't actually know anything about It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, I've just been exposed to the Dayman thing because I live on the internet.

MikeQ

5:22 PM

@Yuuki The Gang seems like a typical D&D adventurer party

Carcer

@MikeQ my dragon age rpg party has the motto "Say Bad Things, Do Good Deeds"

RandomDudeWithAKnife

lol, same with one of the previous rouge character.

hey, anyone recognize my profile pic?

Yuuki

Yeah, I've seen it in this chatroom recently.

David Coffron

@RandomDudeWithAKnife Google reverse image says its a fish

Yuuki

I'm getting birds.

David Coffron

5:28 PM

@Yuuki Huh.

Yuuki

And now a macaque.

David Coffron

Why would that be different

I know google results change based on search history and stuff, but reverse image is just searching for simiilar images I thought.

Upper_Case

@DavidCoffron Maybe they're searching different versions of the image? Like the picture from the profile page for one and the thumbnail from a post for the other? If the resolutions are different, maybe...

Bah. I don't know enough about image processing and searching

David Coffron

@Upper_Case Good thought. I searched the one here

But when I search here, I get Darth Vader

NautArch

tineye gave me a null

David Coffron

5:38 PM

If I clock the little on in chat I get monochrome: google.com/…

The one in the room section gives me macaque like Yuuki: google.com/…

I bet the larger one when longer chats are posted is birds

Or maybe it's the brighter one instead of the faded one

I searched mine at maximum brightness, gonna try in a couple minutes with less

Nvm, when you mouse over the images it maxxes the brightness anyway

JohnP

5:56 PM

@RandomDudeWithAKnife Is that.... Scarecrow?

Upper_Case

@RandomDudeWithAKnife It looks like a Ringwraith to me, or possibly the Witch King (both from LotR). But I am, by a wide margin, the worst face-recognizer of anyone I've ever met, so I accept that my guesses are probably not great

NautArch

@RandomDudeWithAKnife I'm still interested in how you got those damage values at level 1 :)

goodguy5

hrm?

NautArch

@goodguy5 wizard at 1, but scroll up and there's a level 4 monk build with level 4 monk doing 64/round.

GcL

6:32 PM

@NautArch max or average?

kviiri

Ethiopian food was tasty but the injera was served cold instead of warm which is new to me and now I know not which one is the correct way

NautArch

@GcL i think @RandomDudeWithAKnife said average

GcL

So a L4 monk on the top of a 200' cliff just punching enemies off it?

I don't think I can sort out how an L4 monk could consistently do 64 points of damage. They water and fire bender monks can do a bunch of AOE by smoking ki points, but that's hardly consistent and requires multiple targets.

David Coffron

@NautArch Is it 5e?

NautArch

@DavidCoffron pretty sure they said it was

David Coffron

6:44 PM

@NautArch Hmph. He hinted that greataxe is involved, and if you let a greataxe work as a monk weapon and work with flurry of blows then it deals only 45 at max on dice (81 with crits)

Which is about 64 if you take the average (so critting 50% of the time and rolling max on all dice)

GcL

Max I can get is 4th level elemental monk smoking 4 ki points to water whip for 5d10 as a bonus action. Which lets them get a two handed smack in with a quarterstaff. So 5d10 + 1d8 once.

David Coffron

@GcL He said it was sun soul

GcL

Not familiar with that one. XtGE?

David Coffron

@GcL SCAG iirc

Xirema

@GcL Elemental Monk can't spend 4 Ki points on a single Discipline until level 9, also.

GcL

6:48 PM

@Xirema I must have missed that rule.

Xirema

@GcL Oh, hmm. It might only apply to spells.

David Coffron

If you are counting a deflected missile you could get to 64 over a whole round

GcL

@Xirema I concur. I think that's just for spells.

@DavidCoffron Does deflect use a reaction?

David Coffron

@GcL yeah

GcL

About the same as a AoO then?

Yeah. I think @RandomDudeWithAKnife misread Radiant Sun Bolt

David Coffron

6:53 PM

You've got to do your 13 damage with Radiant Sun Bolt, your 7.5 with your monk weapon, and then deflecting a missile that deals fire damage (so the tiefling resistance kicks in) for 27 expected damage. Although even that is only 47.5

GcL

It basically replaces flurry of blows with a ranged radiant attack. So 1d8 for quarter staff + 1d4 + 1d4 for Sun Bolts.

KorvinStarmast

@NautArch that is why my nephew likes it. as we go up in level and monsters become bags of HP, CS really is handy.

GcL

@DavidCoffron Sun bolts are only d4 at L4, and they cost your bonus action.

David Coffron

@GcL d4+4, two of them = 13 on average

NautArch

@KorvinStarmast Yup. And the extra consistent 1d8 and 1d6 from HM plus damage die and modifier adds up.

KorvinStarmast

6:55 PM

@kviiri last time I had good Ethiopian food, in Chicago years ago, we thought the bread most resembled carpet pad in consistency, but ... Yummy!!!!!

GcL

@DavidCoffron It's two 1d4 attacks. Not two 2d4 attacks.

David Coffron

@GcL 2.5 + 4 + 2.5 + 4= 13

GcL

What's the 2.5?

Xirema

@GcL The average of the d4 itself. The +4 is the Dexterity modifier.

David Coffron

@GcL expected damage of a d4

> This special attack is a ranged spell attack with a range of 30 feet. You are proficient with it, and you add your Dexterity modifier to its attack and damage rolls. Its damage is radiant, and its damage die is a d4

GcL

6:58 PM

@Xirema Gotcha

David Coffron

If all three attacks use the greataxe, you get 31.5 meaning a resisted missile that gets deflected can deal 27 for 58.5. Still not 64

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