Root Access

Michael Frank

12:14 AM

theregister.co.uk/2018/03/05/who_me

Reminds me of the time we were told to pull a blade server by rack/OU position.

Once we got it out, we found the serial number was not the same as the one that was listed on the job.

Quickly shoved it back in and turned it back on, the gtfo.

Bob

@MichaelFrank That's a pretty poor choice of photo :P

Michael Frank

Probably the first search result for "pressing power button"

Bob

Button in the photo is a momentary pushbutton of the type found in modern machines ... the type with ACPI ... the type that forces a hard power off if you hold it for a few seconds.

@MichaelFrank No indicator light? :P

I like the Dell servers with a little illuminated LCD display on the front.

Michael Frank

No light, we did think it was odd that it was still on, but I deferred to the more experienced engineer who said "Well, they want it out!" yank

I figured out what the little (i) button on the front of my server did the other day.

It turns a light on at the back, so you can ID the server once you walk around the other side of the rack.

Bob

I'm kind of glad I don't have to deal with physical servers anymore

Journeyman Geek

12:22 AM

@Bob the new ones do NFC and have an app it seems.

@MichaelFrank blades are 'fun'

also that story smells like bullshit

long press on a powerbutton should insta-off no?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek 1999

Michael Frank

Old hardware was a toggle switch.

Canadian Luke

Hooked directly up to the power supply, in some cases

bertieb

This is 1999, where old switches behaved different, men were real men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.

Journeyman Geek

pretty sure hard powerbuttons died before then

Bob

12:26 AM

@JourneymanGeek A server in 1999. Could've easily been manufactured ~1990

Journeyman Geek

ah true

Bob

@JourneymanGeek idk if you saw, but chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/43249982#43249982

Journeyman Geek

ah, cool ;p

Bob

problem now is ... getting a printer (and the possible 10 hours of setup time... :S)

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

12:31 AM

original: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/118?m=43250049#43250049

Journeyman Geek

(also, yay, I can bug you to model stuff if I get a 3d printer ;p )

Bob

also the features on it might be too small to print :\

Michael Frank

@CanadianLuke "It is now safe to remove the power cable from your computer."

Bob

@JourneymanGeek lol. it was actually kinda fun

been far too many years since I last did CAD

but a lot of it's just measuring the thing

hm. CR10s runs almost $400 (ow)

Bob

12:45 AM

@JourneymanGeek help picking a printer? :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob Its kinda on the pre 3 month rule thing ;p

amazon.com/Monoprice-Select-Printer-Heated-Filament/dp/…

Bob

@JourneymanGeek well, you'd know far more than me, soooo... any tips would be useful :P

Journeyman Geek

this would be what I'd buy tho

Bob

> $203.09 + $60.02 Shipping & Import Fees Deposit to Australia

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

sounds pretty good

> (120 x 120 x 120 mm)

also, I just realised I don't really have an SD card reader for the desktop

Journeyman Geek

ya. Its very cost competitive with the DX one I was looking at

Bob

12:52 AM

> Basic Skills Required:

A little better than basic understanding of electronics
A little better than basic understanding of mechanical components
A little better than basic computer skills

I can do that! ...maybe

Journeyman Geek

(its the gantry style so less stuff to break - I think its minimal assembly. Print bed is small but eh)

2

Journeyman Geek

1:23 AM

oh ya

68

Q: Support for OpenID ends on July 1, 2018

Stack Overflow was an early and strong supporter of OpenID. We built our sign up/log in flow around it. We were idealistic and had high hopes, but these hopes weren't realized. Over the years people have wondered if OpenID is dead. We've had to remove support as OpenID providers pulled support or...

@Bob ^

Bob

:\

@JourneymanGeek so I'm waffling between the Anet A8, the Monoprice mini, and its slightly bigger cousin :P

Journeyman Geek

apparently no more SE openid (which kinda was not expected but eh) and they'll switch to username/password logins (which should be seamless)

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek Wait... I can't click my Google button anymore? :(

Journeyman Geek

google and facebook logins will work

just over oauth

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ...that'll probably break cavil login

Journeyman Geek

1:32 AM

@Bob in that case @allquixotic ^ ;p

@Bob I didn't quite realise that

tho

@JF SE OpenID accounts are really email/pw accounts handled through complicated OpenID code path. They will be migrated to a more simple email/pw only code path as a part of this change. No extra work required on your part. — Joe Friend ♦ 8 hours ago

also

28

A: Support for OpenID ends on July 1, 2018

Just a quick addendum to Joe's post, we'll have a pretty strong support plan in place for those that become disenfranchised from their accounts due to not seeing the message. While we're being really proactive about getting the word out, there's always going to be a few stragglers. When we pulle...

Bob

@JourneymanGeek it'll be simple for humans

not so much for automated logins that make certain assumptions

Journeyman Geek

ah

well, there's 3 months to fix it? ;p

Bob

e.g. cavil webdriver login currently triggers an openid-specific JS function

Journeyman Geek

.... ow

Bob

@JourneymanGeek no. there's a period of brokenness followed by a maybe fix

unless they plan to release a test site with the new login flow, there's nothing I can do right now

Journeyman Geek

1:36 AM

er k?

@Bob ah

dang

I'd been under the impression SE openid was staying until...

erm

this morning?

Journeyman Geek

2:38 AM

hardware.slashdot.org/story/18/03/06/2347246/… 0_0

Bob

@JourneymanGeek O_O

Exactly. Even if the connection is really bad and the file somehow got damaged, it should work fine. PRO-TIP: Encrypt it, rename it to 'KimKardashianNude.mp4' and let thousands of people help you with the connection. Automatic, distributed backup for free! :) — Eric Duminil 19 hours ago

Bob

3:09 AM

@JourneymanGeek this is almost hilariously cheap rcgroups.com/forums/…

Journeyman Geek

3:52 AM

@Bob some assembly required ;p

also no heated bed

Bob

@JourneymanGeek think I'm going tevo tarantula

Michael Frank

@Bob I got a friend that works in 3D printing for Fuji Xerox... maybe he can cut you a deal on one of their entry level models...

They're only like $5k to start with!

Also, if you're doing this just to fix an umbrella, it must be a very special umbrella!

bwDraco

4:30 AM

...and Grandmother has either died or is about to die. My mom is grieving :(

Feb 20 at 17:11, by bwDraco

So... on day 5 of Chinese New Year, my paternal grandfather died 😢

Well, with this loss... I have no grandparents left.

The impact is especially hard on us because this means we've lost two relatives in less than 15 days... *sigh*

I don't think she'll grieve for a very long time given that Grandmother is a whole world apart, but it will be another few busy weeks for us as we prepare for a trip to Hong Kong.

bwDraco

5:37 AM

On max settings, FFXV is by far the most graphically intensive game I've ever played.

in The Bridge, Jul 21 '13 at 2:51, by DragonLord

I have a feeling that FF15 will end up being the performance behemoth Crysis was almost six years ago...

@JourneymanGeek Can you pin this?

(have Yahoo-based OpenID login on my account but that's no longer used; I just log in directly through Stack Exchange)

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco not entirely sure that's very useful?

I was debating vaguely mirroring it on meta, but I'm pretty certain most folks here arn't on openid

bwDraco

> ...but can it run ~~Crysis~~ Final Fantasy XV?

To finally see the PC version come to fruition, and to have the hardware to run the game at its best... is a dream come true.

I knew a PC version was inevitable, but I never thought I would have a PC anywhere near as powerful as Astaroth.

William

6:04 AM

is it just me or did mute tab turn into mute site?

in chrome

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek Qoo10 refunded my sister already.

Pretty fast turn around!

Journeyman Geek

nice!

Bob

yo, you hirin'? — Bryan Boettcher yesterday

@JourneymanGeek ok, if I get one it'll probably be the tarantula :P

same-ish clone as the not-mini monoprice, half the price

...then again the latter comes pre-assembled

gah, back to trying to choose again :P

Journeyman Geek

6:21 AM

@Bob the 'nice' thing with the monoprice is - well, its preassembled. If nothing else, its less likely to be the printer

and the heated bed is a "very nice thing to have" since it prevents prints from warping

hackaday.com/2018/03/06/…

Bob

@JourneymanGeek tarantula does heated bed too

Journeyman Geek

ah ok

Bob

@JourneymanGeek reason for monoprice is I don't think I really want to spend 8+ hours fiddling :P

Journeyman Geek

;p

Journeyman Geek

6:58 AM

@Bob looks like the ruby and python SE chatbot frameworks have the same issue ;p

Bob

7:25 AM

yea, uh... no thanks

DavidPostill

lol. express saver takes longer and costs more :)

Journeyman Geek

0_0

@Bob the trantula?

I think DX does the same strange stuff now

they have a 10 dollar heat gun... with 20 dollar shipping

rahuldottech

7:47 AM

Good morning

Such bullshit

gadgets.ndtv.com/entertainment/news/…

Michael Frank

@rahuldottech The URL title makes no sense...

Disney India Hotstar Netflix deal over Marvel Pixar Lucasfilm.

Bob

8:14 AM

@JourneymanGeek no, that one is free dhl.

the crazy shipping is monoprice

Journeyman Geek

oh

don't ever buy directly off monoprice unless you're in the US

amazon's a lot cheaper

Bob

@JourneymanGeek still $100 shipping

Journeyman Geek

0_0

user226528

I once saw such a thing: I went to a shopping web site where I could choose between vendor A and vendor B (I don't remember their names). Vendor A more expensive but it was the only expense. Vendor B took you through additional delivery costs, tax, insurance, etc.

Bob

I'm looking for a Wanhao i3 (what monoprice rebadges) now

might go back to the tarantula

Journeyman Geek

8:16 AM

ah

Bob

don't really want to get a kit but... it's a lot cheaper

Journeyman Geek

ah

and you probably can find all the info you need on the internet

Andy K

morning

Journeyman Geek

8:58 AM

morn

Burgi

morning

Michael Frank

9:17 AM

mōrena

Burgi

how weird, go daddy was redirecting me to the Armenian home page

djsmiley2k

9:48 AM

got haxked?

or your proxy screwed again ?

Man

this 'was' the same price as the Wanhao i3

amazon.co.uk/…

I'm presuming it's terrible

because for £170, I can almost justify buying one

Journeyman Geek

its a knockoff of a really good 3d printer

djsmiley2k

Ah I see

Journeyman Geek

that said, this particular design is designed to be knocked off so to speak

djsmiley2k

Right.

?me is no expert in 3d printers, but I basically hear you can upgrade parts, to better parts, as you go along?

Journeyman Geek

the idea is you can buy or print everything but the circuit board easily, and that's also open sourceish

in theory? yeah

djsmiley2k

9:53 AM

Yeah.... theory ;D

Bob

...whoops

I broke my model

...I need git for cad

Journeyman Geek

cough

;p

in theory, there's nothing stopping you from storing your working models in git

Bob

@djsmiley2k with the reprap-based ones, yea

Journeyman Geek

or ... what about hitting undo?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek the undo function is broken until 0.17

0.17's been in beta for 6000-odd commits, since mid-2016

more specifically, hitting undo is what got me into this mess :D

djsmiley2k

9:54 AM

Git for CAd is cool.

idea wise

Journeyman Geek

._.

djsmiley2k

well, version control for CAD, I guess I should say.

Bob

(it deleted a bunch of constraints and now I'm trying to figure out a sketch that has 58 degrees of freedom where it should have 0)

djsmiley2k

Doesn't need to be git specifically.

As long as it's not got 6 degrees of kevin bacon you're safe.

Bob

@djsmiley2k if you're suggessing visual source safe I'm gonna need to find a way to slap you through your monitor :D

djsmiley2k

10:05 AM

@Bob Not suggesting anything, I have no experience of such things, I just like the idea of it

Source control all the things!

well damn

the city's hospital is on fire.

Burgi

10:42 AM

welp

ugh

why are american call centre staff so happy?

djsmiley2k

;D

becuase it immediately stops you being so angry

Burgi

all our domains are locked for transfer

djsmiley2k

who they with tho

I heard GoDaddy mentioned, if so, hahahahaha have fun

Burgi

:'(

djsmiley2k

Oh dear

Burgi

10:47 AM

they don't have email support

djsmiley2k

:(

Burgi

i have better shit to do than hold the line!!!!!

djsmiley2k

lockin domains for transfer is normal tho.

Burgi

hold music you have won this time!

Journeyman Geek

11:10 AM

@Burgi clearly they're happy their jobs haven't been outsourced to elbonia.

...

Burgi

lol

Journeyman Geek

wait. why the hell would a domain host only have phone support?

@Burgi also, I usually just toss it on speaker.

sometimes I also complain their hold music is terrible

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek thats what i want to know

Hiccup

What's the meaning of the "X-Px" field that wget sometimes produces when using the "--server-response" parameter?

example:

``HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 10:15:20 GMT
Server: PWS/8.3.1.0.8
X-Px: ht [url]
Cache-Control: max-age=604800
Expires: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:05:40 GMT
Age: 4180
Content-Length: 2564
Content-Type: application/octet-stream
Last-Modified: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:46:52 GMT
Connection: keep-alive``

I replaced the URL with "[url]"

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi also, eww godaddy.

that said apparently people seem to hate namecheap too :(

Hiccup

11:16 AM

I think its the hostname, actually.

Michael Frank

11:28 AM

@JourneymanGeek What, why?

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank no one seems to want to tell me ;p

Michael Frank

Well, I'll tell you that I don't hate Namecheap!

Journeyman Geek

I'm using them for a few domains, and one email account on an old domain for dad (its cheap, and someone else's problem ;p)

Burgi

i find the dashboard interface on namecheap absolutely terrible and confusing

Journeyman Geek

I only really look at it when I renew ;p

djsmiley2k

11:42 AM

hmmmmm

who knows what a CCSA is

DavidPostill

12:03 PM

@djsmiley2k Check Point Certified Security Administrator

checkpoint.com/support-services/training-certification/…

djsmiley2k

yusss

Didn't know if anyone' heard of it before tbh

it's the training I'm going on

:/

Burgi

12:22 PM

i vaguely remember interacting with checkpoint once before

it wasn't pleasent

djsmiley2k

12:39 PM

yeah it's nto great

ok damn, this pulled pork gonna be too spicy for kids

i need to cool it some how :/

Burgi

ffs

why do i always get errors running npm?

djsmiley2k

not root?

Burgi

i am root

djsmiley2k

'i r root'

I hate all other package managers, but what's the error?

Burgi

12:54 PM

npm WARN registry Unexpected warning for registry.npmjs.org: Miscellaneous Warning EINTEGRITY: sha512-lreewLK/BlghmxtfH36YYVg1i8IAce4TI7oao75I1g245+6BctqTVQiBP3YUJ9C6DQOXJmkYR‌9X9fCLtCOJc5w== integrity checksum failed when using sha512: wanted sha512-lreewLK/BlghmxtfH36YYVg1i8IAce4TI7oao75I1g245+6BctqTVQiBP3YUJ9C6DQOXJmkYR‌9X9fCLtCOJc5w== but got sha1-LtgVDSShbqhlHm1u8PR8QVjOejY=. (5535 bytes)

npm WARN registry Using stale package data from https://registry.npmjs.org/ due to a request error during revalidation.
npm ERR! path C:\inetpub\wwwroot\pbp-17-418\node_modules\npm\node_modules\ansistyles
npm ERR! code ENOENT
npm ERR! errno -4058
npm ERR! syscall rename
npm ERR! enoent ENOENT: no such file or directory, rename 'C:\inetpub\wwwroot\pbp-17-418\node_modules\npm\node_modules\ansistyles' -> 'C:\inetpub\wwwroot\pbp-17-418\node_modules\npm\node_modules\.ansistyles.DELETE'
npm ERR! enoent This is related to npm not being able to find a file.

djsmiley2k

o_O

Burgi

your guess is as good as mine

nukes entire project folder

time to start again

djsmiley2k

no one knows \o/

github.com/npm/npm/issues/17146

'I delete teh cache and the errors go away1'

well yeah.... becuase the errors are saying the cached checksums don't match

idiots -_-;

djsmiley2k

1:23 PM

> I'm not a frequent node user, and experiences like this don't inspire confidence. Reliably delivering cryptographically verified packages across platforms and architectures seems like a pretty basic task for any package manager...

haha

couldn't of said it better myself

Bob

1:34 PM

@djsmiley2k s/of/have/

FML Cat

> Dr Katie Slocombe from the university's department of psychology explains: "This high-pitched rhythmic speech is common in human interactions with dogs in western cultures, but there isn't a great deal known about whether it benefits a dog.

"We wanted to see whether social bonding between animals and humans was influenced by the type and content of the communication."

user226528

Hi, guys!

user226528

Sorry, I don't how dread pirates say hello.

FML Cat

Yeah but what's to say that's not just because it's what dogs in western cultures have been brought up to expect and be accustomed to? If I started talking to humans in an alien dialect and a socially inappropriate tone they wouldn't pay much attention either

user226528

Anyway... Has Windows 10 cumulative update for March shown up on anyone's machine yet?

user226528

1:42 PM

It is supposed to be released by now.

FML Cat

I've only just been forcefully terrorised by the fall creators update

user226528

Oh, that's bad, because Destroyers Update is right around the corner.

user226528

But I didn't mean that.

user226528

I meant "2018-03 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1709 for x64-based Systems (KB4090913)"

Bob

@FMLCat Heh, that actually fixed hibernation for me.

Funny thing about the rolling releases. You're effectively doing a reinstall every half year, so some of the weirder issues get fixed by it :)

user226528

1:48 PM

@Bob Windows 10 is not on a rolling release.

user226528

Rolling release requires there be no cumulative updates.

user226528

e.g. instead of getting a bagful of changes twice a year, the browser team updates as soon as possible without regards to the calendar team, kernel team or customer harassment/satisfaction team

user226528

Although input from espionage/telemetry department is usually vital.

rahuldottech

2:10 PM

@DavidPostill @Burgi remember that question about liquid metal cooling from a week ago? Apparently that's a thing.

Liquid Metal Cooling a PHONE!?!?!

►

Burgi

ugh

That REDACTED Guy

Why is my system installing a vulkan package?

user226528

@ThatREDACTEDGuy Short answer: Video card

user226528

If you've installed video card driver, a video accelerator, a video codec with hardware acceleration enabled or a GPGPU component, they may install a Vulkan package.

That REDACTED Guy

Why is my system installing a package for a programming language created more than 60 years ago?

Burgi

2:17 PM

legacy dependancy

That REDACTED Guy

@FleetCommand I just ran dnf update and it is installing vulkan as a dependendy of... something?

Burgi

i'm having all sorts of issues installing foundation for emails

FINALLY!!!

maybe

user226528

@JourneymanGeek Recently, I flagged an answer in SU because it started with "To FleetCommand" and seemed like a reply. You just removed "To FleetCommand" from it. Now, it looks like an answer that starts with unnecessary criticism of ... something, but no one has a clue as to what.

Journeyman Geek

it basically suggests one approach has issues and suggests an alternative

looks fine to me!

user226528

I think the solution is to remove the criticism altogether and write "Get-Content might be the straightfoward way but I suggest this..."

Journeyman Geek

2:33 PM

but I think the critique is an essential part of the intent of the poster.

user226528

Yes. And what I suggesting is to make "Get-Content" the object of criticism.

user226528

No pressure of course.

Bob

user226528

God knows what would have happened by July 2019.

user226528

Where does this come from?

Bob

2:36 PM

@FleetCommand ?

user226528

The photo. Did you find it somewhere on the web, or did you take it? If the latter, do you find the batteries in your tool shed?

Bob

@FleetCommand I took it.

Had a box of 10 of those 4-packs

Journeyman Geek

I just noticed chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/43246004#43246004

Burgi

they could have been stored in direct sunlight or a hot australian shed

user226528

Is this the only victim?

Bob

2:38 PM

@Burgi in a drawer

@FleetCommand one other pack has one that's leaking slightly

user226528

@JourneymanGeek Yeah. That's indeed legendary.

Journeyman Geek

probably got attacked by drop bears.

Bob

I only checked cause 2/4 of them leaked all over my fancy MBT-1 battery tester

Burgi

they could be counterfeit

user226528

I once bought a cheap pair of Chinese headsets for someone to do some tinkering. He was so happy until he discovered the headset was called SQNY, not SONY.

djsmiley2k

2:40 PM

@FMLCat indeed.... cats figured out meowing gets human attention, why would dogs not learn to speak/hear the same?

Bob

@Burgi bought em from dick smith... was a preeeeeetty big local retailer

Burgi

faulty batch stored in a hot australian's drawers

user226528

O.o

Journeyman Geek

was

user226528

A large retailer called "**** smith"? Really?

Journeyman Geek

2:41 PM

@FleetCommand at least it wasn't SPQR

@FleetCommand that really was the name of the founder

Burgi

@FleetCommand dick is short for richard

user226528

@Burgi Oh, I know! Believe me. I've read Anne Shirley and played Mafia.

Burgi

do you also self censor dick van dyke?

user226528

The most frightening thing in your message is "self censor" without the intervening "-".

Burgi

i'm a rebel

user226528

2:44 PM

@JourneymanGeek Huh? The Roman Republic?

Journeyman Geek

yup

user226528

Not sure I get the joke. Or the point.

Burgi

a battery bought then would be totally dead by now

Journeyman Geek

they would be really old headphones.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Wanhao i3 Duplicator is $360 shipped from China (US retailer dropshipping?)

Which is effectively the Monoprice Maker Select v2

Journeyman Geek

2:49 PM

ooh

Bob

(Monoprice rebadging it)

user226528

Er... @Burgi, I'm not sure if you got the joke. Let me put it this way: Smith Hammer is the name of a person, but smith hammer is an object.

Bob

uh, that is, 360 USD

Compare the Mini on Amazon is $270, and the Select is $400

user226528

Now, Dick Smith is certainly the name of person, as is Dick Chenney.

Bob

The larger one is 2x the bed size in all dimensions

djsmiley2k

2:50 PM

@Bob The monoprice being the one Hack-A-Day were going crazy about?

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

@djsmiley2k uhhhhhhh

idk :P

Journeyman Geek

probably saw it there

djsmiley2k

yeah

Bob

also, they do support over facebook messenger

which is ... interesting

on one hand, I don't really like using facebook across more sites

djsmiley2k

2:52 PM

Ah, it was the mini they were loving.

Bob

on the other, it's actually a great support experience

much better than those shitty support chat sites that don't really work

djsmiley2k

hackaday.com/2017/08/21/monoprice-mini-delta-review

Bob

hmmmmmmmmm

one of my 18650s, a Samsung 26F, has dropped to 2.1V

that's ... bad

maybe I should toss it

djsmiley2k

> This is a high-quality printer that will find a home on many, many desktops. If you’re looking to get into 3D printing, if you’re looking for a new hobby, or that eager inventive 12-year-old cousin is showing an affinity for building stuff, this is the perfect printer. It’s cheap and well within impulse buy territory.

> It’s also a very well designed and extremely capable machine. I would recommend this machine to anybody, whether that’s someone who has never touched a 3D printed part before or someone setting up a bot farm to produce more parts faster.

Journeyman Geek

oh that's a newer ne

not seen that anywhere

this is the previous, non delta model

problem with monoprice is their shipping outside the US is insanely expensive

Bob

2:56 PM

@djsmiley2k that's the delta, which isn't on amazon

djsmiley2k

Not this one amazon.co.uk/Wanhao-Duplicator-I3-Mini-imperesora-i3mini/dp/… ?

amazon.co.uk/Wanhao-Duplicator-I3-Mini-imperesora-i3mini/dp/…

yey oneboxes.