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7:00 AM
s/taco/corpse/gi
 
wat
@betseg @pavel @ATaco u.dk0.us/out-2.ogv
 
I'm in an iPhone here >:C
On even
 
Alright my fraction challenge kinda flopped because people were saying that the challenge doesn't terminate
 
wat
@ATaco even?
also the video is only about 5MB, nothing to worry about
 
iPhone can't play ogv
 
wat
7:04 AM
nm then
I can transcode
 
@wat Yeah, what terminal is that?
 
wat
@Pavel Just standard gnome-terminal, why?
 
o rly
 
That worked!
 
I have never seen gnome terminal being like that
 
7:07 AM
@wat Mine looks significantly different, that's why
 
wat
I just switched it in edit->preferences to theme variant: dark
 
wat
@Pavel screenshot?
 
 
wat
your terminal font is too big. install source code pro.
 
7:10 AM
I dont see why people think they cant input in wireworld
Even tho you can input integers by binary
 
@wat I like fira mono!
 
wat
then reduce size
also for the thing that I use, you NEED a powerline font
There's a powerline version of fira mono, let ne pull that up
 
@wat @Pavel This whole conversation you guys have been having reminded me strongly of this XKCD. So much so that I spent half an hour trying to find it and getting distracted reading other XKCDs. :P
 
Haha
 
@wat use the binary representation of each character 1bit:1pixel, though you could compress it further and get 3 characters per pixel, now that's a small font.
 
7:13 AM
@wat What's a powerline font?
 
hello
 
'ey
 
wat
http://u.dk0.us/FuraMono-Bold%20Powerline.otf
http://u.dk0.us/FuraMono-Medium%20Powerline.otf
http://u.dk0.us/FuraMono-Regular%20Powerline.otf
Install those three fonts
 
Should I put my KoTH suggestion on Meta?
 
wat
@Pavel Fonts with the Powerline glyphs in them
@Pavel what is your username
 
7:16 AM
@wat pavel
 
wat
k
save that file.
 
What is it?
 
wat
then sudo apt-get install zsh
@Pavel my .zshrc
 
That shouls be in ~, right?
 
wat
ok once that finishes run the command sh -c "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh/master/tools/install.sh‌​)"
@Pavel dont put it htere for now
 
7:17 AM
curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 400 Bad Request
 
wat
once that command finishes, you'll need to put in your password
ok whatever
try git clone https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh && bash oh-my-zsh/tools/install.sh
 
0
A: Implement a Truth-Machine

Matthew RohWireWorld (It doesnt have a scoring method yet :\) ████ █ <= this pixel will be the input. if it is a electron head (1), █ █ It will loop forever as 1. if its a wire (0), it will do nothing. █ ██ █ ██ █ ██

:)
The answer I'm proud of
(uhh did I break the conversation)
 
wat
a bit, yeah
 
@MatthewRoh Is there a place we can run it online?
 
Done, installed
 
7:20 AM
well, hmm
 
wat
@Pavel then replace ~/.zshrc with the file you downloaded
and then go to your terminal settings and select one of the fonts I sent you
and then restart your terminal
actually no, that won't work. relog
 
@DLosc newgrounds.com/portal/view/476772 (wtf, newgrounds for interpreting cellular automata? wtf?)
 
@MatthewRoh Wow. I hope that format isn't what we end up basing the scoring on... :P
 
Yeah...
I wouldnt hope wireworld being like whitespace either
 
@wat Done
 
wat
7:28 AM
@Pavel open your terminal now
 
/home/pavel/.zshrc:source:56: no such file or directory: /home/dmitry/.oh-my-zsh/oh-my-zsh.sh
riiiight
 
wat
dammit
i think you know what change to make
 
Yeah
 
wat
actually just sed -i "s/dmitry/pavel/g" ~/.zshrc
 
Yay! It works now! I'm happy!
 
wat
7:31 AM
screenshot?
It won't do syntax highlighting without some actions which are hard to do just via chat
 
 
wat
There's a package in arch linux that automates it
 
Slightly wierd behaviour there
 
wat
Um
 
And I think the powerline glyphs aren't aligned properly
 
wat
7:33 AM
How high did you put the hinting???
also, please send me a screenshot of profile preferences
 
This is a nice terminal prompt: github.com/edkolev/promptline.vim
 
Ah crap, I could have swarned I turned it off >_>
 
wat
> swarned
 
@Pavel What colouring did you choose for your Terminal?
 
@KritixiLithos Solarized
 
wat
7:34 AM
@KritixiLithos This is solarized dark
I use it on all my terminals
 
That is promptline
 
> find . | grep "blah"
Srsly?
find . -iname "*blah*"
 
wat
@betseg I know, it was a demo of the syntax highlighting through pipes
 
7:37 AM
@DLosc if you want a checkbox (a functioning one), here it is. pastebin.com/p0UPfGpJ
 
@Pavel Is that a powerline font?
 
@wat ah k
 
Ooh! that wireworld answer got a like!
 
@MatthewRoh Where do I put the signal?
 
Well, anywhere iirc :\
try it
It bugs but cant say it doesnt work
 
7:39 AM
@KritixiLithos Yeah, doesn't seem to be very good
 
How did you install the powerline fonts?
 
@MatthewRoh Ok, so it's looping and sending signal up both legs of the check mark over and over. Is that the intended behavior?
 
Yes.
 
wat
@Pavel
Pls
 
@KritixiLithos I got three from Wat and manully installed them
 
7:40 AM
So, then if you time the next click right, it toggles back off.
 
@wat Hmm?
 
wat
git clone github.com/powerline/fonts && pushd fonts && bash install.sh && fc-cache -fv && popd
then relog
 
@MatthewRoh Ooh--if you start the signal at the upper right end of the check mark, you get an epilepsy-inducing period-3 pattern throughout the whole space!
 
wat
@KritixiLithos that has glitches with alignment
 
7:42 AM
Well
 
It works fine for me
 
Thats unintended behaviour
but, ehh, thats nice
 
If you do it on the tip of the shorter leg, it dies out eventually.
 
Actually, I have to go now. Still, my everything looks nicer now, thanks for that!
 
@Pavel I hope you get it fixed soon (it took me 12-24 hours to set mine up :/)
 
7:46 AM
If I describe it as a circuit, it would be like:
 
@KritixiLithos o noes. I can't actually unix yet.
 
7:57 AM
(oh noes, did I break up the conversation again)
 
@Pavel Is Unix a verb?
 
Anonymous
@wizzwizz4 Anything is a verb if you verb hard enough
7
 
:\
I think the "unix" in it means "use unix"
 
@Mego Now you're verbing the nouns!
 
@MatthewRoh (Nah, don't worry about it. The philosophy of this site is, if no one has something to say, they shouldn't say it. Silence is fine.)
 
7:59 AM
Now I'm doing it! :-/
 
ok
@wizzwizz4 I verbed the nouns didn't I
 
I have no idea how this whole "do-stuff-without-a-gui" thing works.
 
 
@Pavel Without a GUI.
 
(I, like Calvin, support verbing.)
 
8:02 AM
 
Once upon a time, I turned calvin into a spy
 
@Pavel a) because many people only think in terms of theoretical regular expressions or regex with backreferences. PCRE and .NET should be able to do it (with recursion and balancing groups, respectively). b) because it's still a bad idea. c) because some people mix up parsing with lexing/tokenising.
 
I'm thinking of doing game development as a career when I grow up
I'm not sure what it takes though
 
Same here actually
 
@Qwerp-Derp Patience, and C.
 
8:03 AM
@wizzwizz4 No Java? :(
 
Anonymous
@wizzwizz4 Nowadays it's more like low standards and Javascript/C# :P
 
I'm learning/using Java simply because it's simpler to set up on Windows
 
@Qwerp-Derp Nope. C and a graphics library is the way to write fast games.
 
@Qwerp-Derp I hear it's really hard. The average length of a career in game development is something like 6 months.
 
> career
 
8:04 AM
@Qwerp-Derp C is even easier. Just install Pelles C, and you're done.
 
@Pavel re the other discussion, I only know that .NET isn't TC (barring an undiscovered bug that lets you circumvent the optimisation that prevents infinite loops). I'm not sure about PCRE though. I think recursion can be sent into an infinite loop, but I'm not sure it's sufficient for TC-ness, because I think your memory might be limited by the size of regex and input string.
 
Although Pelles C is sometimes hard to work with (because Windows), so you're better off installing Visual Studio for some things.
 
Anonymous
@Pavel A career can last years. Most game devs switch companies every 6 months or so.
 
You either code C or use programs that people coded with C.
 
ehm
 
8:05 AM
@Mego @DJMcMayhem I still can't get used to your italic names.
 
I phrased that wrong. On average, someone who gets a job developing game will have a non game-related job within 6 months.
 
What about cpp?
 
Anonymous
@wizzwizz4 It's weird for me too
 
@betseg Or write programs using programs that people programmed with C.
 
@wizzwizz4 Switch to mobile then. All the names are the same, the important options are missing, and the diamonds are ugly. 10/10, I can chat any time anywhere
 
8:06 AM
@Downgoat see my last message. I think the only ones that have a chance at being TC are Ruby and PCRE and I doubt they are.
 
@wizzwizz4 I phrased that wrong, but that was what I tried to say
 
@Qwerp-Derp C++ can produce more optimised code in some cases, but it's usually more efficient to use C.
 
Aren't there bucketloads of C++ libraries? Is it the same story for C?
 
Plus, you don't have objects, which are a minor abomination in C++.
@Qwerp-Derp Yes and yes.
 
@wizzwizz4 Everything in Java has to be an object
 
8:08 AM
If you've got a DLL that only has C++ headers, you can rewrite the headers if you re-compile a .lib for it.
 
What's wrong with objects in C++?
 
idk
nothing
 
@Qwerp-Derp They're a mixture between structs and OOP.
 
Am I aiming too high if I want to try and make it in to MIT?
 
You often have more control with struct pointers.
@Qwerp-Derp No.
You can never aim too high.
 
8:09 AM
@wizzwizz4 Is the story with C libraries that you usually have to get it from a third party? Because that's what it seemed like when I tried to find a hashtable library the other day.
 
@DLosc Sometimes you have to get it from a third party. But you can have per-project libraries in most compilers.
The built-in libraries in C are the ones starting with c in C++.
They're heavily optimised.
 
@Qwerp-Derp You are aiming too high if you want to make a school, everything else is not high
 
@MatthewRoh ??? I don't understand
 
nvm ¯_(ツ)_/¯
 
@wizzwizz4 (My C and C++ experience is just a few basic programming classes, so) Define per-project library, pls?
 
8:13 AM
@DLosc If you do #include "libheader.h" from another project (a grouping system used by compilers to keep source files together and trackable), it won't #include. That way, you can have identically-labelled headers in two different programs.
 
Well, installing libraries in each project, not installing in one place iirc
 
@wizzwizz4 Ok, so that just translates to "get it from a third party and put the .h file in your project folder, you can #include it and it won't mess up any other projects"?
 
@DLosc ... Yeah.
 
yeah
 
I'm not good at golfing sentences.
 
8:18 AM
I guess I'm spoiled by Python's "batteries included" philosophy.
 
@wizzwizz4 shall we make an esolang called "sentences"
 
@MatthewRoh Not until we've got a FOSS natural language parser library.
 
¯_(ツ)_/¯
 
Write the interpreter in Mathematica
There's a builtin for parsing natural language
 
@Pavel That's not FOSS.
Plus, I don't have it.
 
8:19 AM
ppcg.github.io/chatiquette - "Avoid repeatedly editing messages that contain pings."
you edited like 2 or 3 times
 
@wizzwizz4 It's Free Beer online
 
@MatthewRoh Sorry. :-/ I made a typing error.
@Pavel I think that's Wolfram Alpha, which is a different language.
 
Requires an account, but it's free
 
@Pavel That's Wolfram Language.
It's different to Mathematica.
 
@wizzwizz4 Uhh, not really
What's different about it?
 
8:22 AM
@Pavel It's... erm... I'm not sure.
@J843136028 Hello! :-)
 
they meant this
 
@MatthewRoh No I didn't
 
@MatthewRoh That's Wolfram Alpha. It's quite different.
 
@wizzwizz4 I wouldn't call it "quite different", it's a kind of weird subset of Mathematica.
 
8:24 AM
@Pavel Subset / Superset...
 
You can evaluate W|A in Mathematica and vice versa
Which is why I said it's kind of weird
 
I have found this
 
@J843136028 I think your computer turned on whilst you were out; iirc you can't access TNB at your present location.
You might want to check that when you get back.
 
I know, I know.
 
8:26 AM
@MatthewRoh That costs. It's cheaper, but still costs money.
My immune system is ridiculous. I had influenza symptoms from ~10PM last night, and they had gone by ~5:30AM (except for cold symptoms).
I'm not socialising though, so I'll have more golfing time.
 
My immune system is good
Havent had a flu for ages
without a vaccine
 
@MatthewRoh That is not a good reason to not get a vaccine
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
@MatthewRoh It could just be that you haven't caught it.
 
¯_(ツ)_/¯
who cares XD
 
8:34 AM
If you don't encounter it, your immune system could forget about the illness.
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
Vaccines are there just to make sure that your immune system retains the necessary antibodies.
And they don't cause autism.
 
Not doing that don't cause autism either
 
But it does cause the flu
 
8:36 AM
And it causes other people you interact with to get the flu
 
yeah
 
@MatthewRoh Even if your immune system is good. That's why I'm staying away from other humans.
Because I am definitely a human, and not a bot.
 
Speaking of vaccines, is polio a thing I have to worry about?
'cause that's the one vaccine that I don't have
 
Anonymous
@wizzwizz4 I don't think you really understand how human immune systems work
 
8:37 AM
@Pavel We do not provide medical advice. Always read the label.
 
I don't think most prime get polio vaccines
 
@Mego Of course I do. I am a real human.
(I know that's not a very good description; I'm not good at explaining.)
 
Being a human doesnt mean you understand the immune system
 
@Pavel According to Dr. Wikipedia, not unless you live in or travel to Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Nigeria.
 
> Vaccines work by making us produce antibodies to fight disease without actually infecting us with the disease. -- NHS Choices
 
8:40 AM
I recall seeing on reddit that fewer people get polio vaccine in Seattle than in Nigeria. The comments were full of people calling out Seattle for being anti-vax, and I was just confused because I'm pretty sure that's not really something anyone gets anymore.
 
@DLosc And you will have nearly no reasons to go places like there
 
Anonymous
@wizzwizz4 Well, it's wrong in a very important aspect: vaccines teach your immune system how to fight off stuff. You don't have to keep getting a vaccine to keep the immunity. The misconception may come from vaccines like the flu vaccine, which is updated annually to mitigate what researchers believe will be the most common strands of influenze that year (because influenza mutates rapidly, causing previous vaccinations to be ineffective), or multiple-stage vaccines
 
@MatthewRoh I'm not going to make that assumption.
 
Anonymous
... (which are for stuff that has multiple strands/versions that are all commonly lumped together under a single umbrella term).
 
8:42 AM
@Mego The quantity of antibodies decreases over time, but doesn't completely disappear.
 
@MatthewRoh We've got people from all over the world on this site. Somebody could live in one of those countries, have relatives they're visiting, have business dealings there, be in the US military... But it is true that most people probably won't go to any of those three countries.
 
lets assume that noone does business dealings in Those countries
 
> If enough people in a community are vaccinated, it's harder for a disease to pass between people who have not been vaccinated. This is called herd immunity.    Herd immunity is particularly important for protecting people who can't get vaccinated because they're too ill or because they're having treatment that damages their immune system. -- NHS Choices
@MatthewRoh --- before.
 
@MatthewRoh Afghanistan and Pakistan aren't in Africa
 
@MatthewRoh You'd be surprised. ;)
 
8:48 AM
At what point does the discussion lean on the incorrect location of Middle Eastern Countries?
 
Anonymous
@wizzwizz4 You're confounding antibodies with memory T and B cells.
 
@ATaco Erm... you'll have to scroll up quite a bit.
 
"Aliko Dangote"
"Dang"
Hmm
 
@Mego I thought T cells were types of antibody... TIL.
 
There's actually two conversations going on here, and we haven't realized it until now.
 
8:49 AM
@Pavel They split off a while ago.
About 3 or 4 messages in?
 
Anonymous
@wizzwizz4 Nope. Memory T and B cells "remember" antigens on foreign invaders, allowing antibodies to be produced sooner upon reinfection. They're like a cache for your immune system.
 
I asked this on Wolfram alpha: "Why did the road cross the chicken?"
 
@Mego Of course... How did I forget that? I learnt it when I was 8!
 
8:53 AM
99 little bugs in the code, 99 bugs in the code, Fix one bug, compile again, 127 little bugs in the code.
3
Ha. Ha.
 
@MatthewRoh I've been planning to write a KOTH where you define rules for those.
 
._. wot?
 
But instead of a rule, it's an independent program.
Each cell that you can spawn runs a program or function, and cells can't communicate.
There are "faint" cells, that can turn into "static" cells, and "static" cells that allow "faint" cells to spawn around them.
Essentially, three types of programmable cell: "off but next to a static", "faint" and "static".
 

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