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user30
12:00 AM
Hello again.
 
user30
It's been a long time.
 
How have you been?
 
user30
I was finding it difficult to stop myself from entering into a monologue while the room was in timeout.
 
Heh, tried from my mobile. Didn't work either. I suppose you can sent events through Fiddler or something to still chat. But nasty, I guess...
Ah wait, they are room owners, makes sense! :D
 
Er, I see a flag notice of "0" that won't go away...
Chat flag, that is.
 
12:04 AM
Just ignore it
 
@FallenAngelEyes I see no such thing!
 
It'll go away probably in a few hours
Or days.
 
Gotcha
...>_>
 
@FallenAngelEyes Me too, heh.
kills it with a refresh and makes note to blame balpha
 
@TimStone We blame @badp here.
 
12:06 AM
Since one of a mod's roles is liason between the community and the staff, I'm officially the Forwarder of The Blame.
Mostly to rchern's general direction.
 
user2334
Shuuuuuuuun!
 
After all she's got blame forwarding powers herself now.
 
@Ullallulloo That works, just as long as people aren't blaming me:
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, yesterday, by Jeremy Banks ʬʬʬ
I do approve of using @TimStone as our proxy-dev for blame when SE staff aren't around.
 
Well that was fun. I think I did well.
 
@TimStone That's a genuinely good idea.
I should blame you more often.
 
12:09 AM
I guess I'll find out tomorrow.
 
@badp That would imply that I did something to be blamed for, which we all know is silly.
 
Obviously. You do things that we have to blame @badp for.
 
@TimStone That's madness. Since when you do need to actually do something to be blamed for it?
I can blame you for not doing something too!
 
@GraceNote As it should be!
 
So is there like a chain of blame? Similar to the chain of command, but in reverse.
 
12:10 AM
I mean, you have all of chat's JS code, you should've figured out by now why the chat flag counter doesn't clear itself at zero!
 
@RonanForman I don't think it's a chain if the only target is @badp
 
@badp There actually is a bug related to flags and the stars list that could very well be related.
 
@TimStone Patch or nothing, maaaan.
 
@GraceNote Well, it's less of a chain, and more of a transitive property. So, for instance, I can blame @TimStone, but really, I'm just blaming @badp by proxy.
And so on and so forth.
 
It'd have to be a web, in which @badp is caught.
 
12:12 AM
@badp I'm fixing MVC Mini Profiler in IE 8 first, then the digests, then the rest of the Elections site, but maybe after that (Oh, and I need to fix the MySQL issue on the Minecraft server). :P
 
So far, I'm pretty impressed with Kingdoms of Amalur... <.<
 
user30
hm. I wonder if I could install ICS on my Desire Z.
 
@TimStone Oh yeah, I also wanted to blame you because I can't like link to http://elections.stackexchange.com/#gaming
Thanks for pointing it out.
 
Yeah, that's on the to-do list.
 
user30
I can't say I've ever looked into modding Android
 
12:14 AM
You'll be able to do that after I'm finished with the updates (and view historical elections).
 
Oooh, BloodRayne: Betrayal's been knocked down to only $10 from $15.
 
(By the way, I hope my requests for clarification post-THC are okay)
 
Did I get any?
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I know what it stands for in this context, but my brain still doesn't parse it immediately as "Town Hall Chat".
 
12:16 AM
So that sentence was more amusing to me than warranted.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Depends on who you're asking, I guess. I'm not getting started on the digest for a while, so it's certainly fine by me. And the candidates are at the mercy of your vote, so I figure they're game as well. :P
 
@RonanForman You'd've been pinged if you had.
 
@Ullallulloo nope, $3.99 is more than the minimum. The actual bundle will start at roughly $2.99
 
@TimStone Pre-emptive thanks for taking the time to put the digest together. :)
 
@TimStone Good enough. Was just making sure I wasn't breaking any rules by haranguing @OrigamiRobot and @Wipqozn
 
12:18 AM
@FallenAngelEyes Ah, no problem, this one should thankfully be much easier than the one earlier today.
 
@TimStone Ah, why so?
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I prefer people to respond to my answers. It clears up any misunderstandings due to my frantic typing. Keeping up was/is hard
 
returns
 
@badp "The Valentine's Bundle will launch fully later this week at $3.99 USD and up - watch our Twitter feed or Facebook page for immediate notice at launch time."
 
How goes the thing?
 
12:19 AM
So, yeah, @GnomeSlice, nothing about kilts.
 
@Ullallulloo I guess they noticed the idiocy of doing preorders at a higher price then
that's a good thing.
 
@Mana Oh, hey, whatever happened to seeing how well you can name the avatar listing? ♪
 
I'm kind of thinking a future Town Hall Chat should be moderated. Have questions submitted in Meta prior to Town Hall, and have a Panel (of existing mods and users, selected... somehow) asking questions based on said meta submissions, but also following up and allowing a bit more back and forth. Would be a worthwhile experiment IMO.
 
@Ullallulloo I know it's a good deal, but I just can't justify spending money for an unknown product. I buy enough indie games that with my luck, I might have the whole bundle already...
 
@GraceNote Ah, not really feeling up to it right now, sorry.
 
12:20 AM
@FallenAngelEyes Mostly just general silliness, I think the answers were more tightly grouped with their respective questions in this one (although I haven't started on either yet, so we'll see)
 
I think I've made @Mana depressed.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz We had some experimentation with pre-submitted questions in the second season, but there was a lot of push back on it after examining the results.
 
Oh?
 
@TimStone Ah gotcha. Good luck!
 
Thanks!
 
12:21 AM
That kind of makes it feel less like a chat.
 
@Mana That's alright. I can find ways to remember it in the future ♪
 
@Noctrine there's got to be a Better Way.
 
@GraceNote Oh? What criticisms were there? I don't think I recall reading about that anywhere.
 
No, I'm actually happier than I've ever been before in my life @GnomeSlice. The stuff about you sucks, but I'm not going to feel down about it. I'll just try to listen and help you.
 
@FallenAngelEyes I don't recall.
 
12:22 AM
@Mana Glad to hear you're happy.
 
user30
@LessPopMoreFizz I didn't like the presubmitted questions trial.
 
But I remember there being a decision "We're not doing this again".
 
Part of the issue is that having pre-arranged questions requires people to think of things in advance, and it can limit the ability for people to ask follow-up questions.
 
user30
I felt that everything came across as a bit too 'ordered'.
 
Hm. I know I, personally, vastly preferred the second one over the first because it was much easier to reply to. That's a shame.
 
12:22 AM
Also, it's a suuuuuuuper pain to reattribute questions to their original askers.
 
Perhaps two rooms, one for Question Submissions/Commentary, and one for Answers, with a set of Trusted Users filtering them in via links?
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@Wipqozn Thank you. :)
 
Maybe after a question is asked, a short quiet period that actually allows the nominee's to answer. Followed by discussion before the next question?
 
user30
Rather than being a discussion it was more of a question -> prewritten answer.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz That's what I was thinking of as well
 
12:23 AM
I'm such a battered man.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I like that more.
 
T_T
 
@Noctrine Yeah, I actually think that could work fairly well. As it allows a moderator to 'set the pace' as it were'.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I like this a lot.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah, I often see this method used for stuff like developer chats and stuff
(talking with game devs, I mean)
 
12:24 AM
And allows questions to come in as fast as people can ask them - a 'moderator' or panel thereof can then select/filter questions, using the ultra-scientific 'Number of Stars' method to identify the 'best'/'most important' ones.
 
@Mana Glad things are going well for you!
 
user30
I've noticed a repeating theme in a fair few questions being asked, anyway.
 
user30
Such as 'What do you think of ITG'
 
@ThomasMcDonald We should revisit that discussion after the election.
 
@ThomasMcDonald Yeah, a good moderator would go a long way to making things more orderly and less repetitive.
lowercase-m in this case.
 
12:26 AM
@ThomasMcDonald That was actually asked about 3 times.
 
and marvel at the awesome of ITG questions, and decide to never doubt them again.
 
I can't believe ronnie didn't show up for the town hall chat.
 
user30
starring for potential out of contextness.
 
I like ITG, but for the most part they are too localized. They don't do much to help the internet as a whole, but for individuals they are awesome.
 
@Noctrine I ground my ITG axe in the last two elections. I figure, the community has mostly come around at this point, it's just a matter of time before we finally get to kill it with fire.
 
user30
12:27 AM
I don't think it's something that as a community we'll agree on.
 
MY problem with ITG has more to do with the problem that any answers can only be guesses, nothing more.
 
My problem with ITG is that the vast majority of ITG questions happen to suck. The tag is a magent for the worst content on the site.
 
@Wipqozn Indeed. That seems very un-pro to me.
 
@Wipqozn doooon't feeeeed the trooooooooll
 
There's something to be said for deciding that a certain category of content has a strong enough tendency towards low quality that you just don't want to put up with it in order to retain the occasional pearl.
 
12:29 AM
@FallenAngelEyes It's only feeding if I ping him :P
 
(See also: )
 
@Wipqozn I swear if "pro much" becomes a meme here, I'll just... cry.
 
@FallenAngelEyes how very un-pro of you
 
@FallenAngelEyes Too late.
 
user30
Everyone's attitude towards Ronnie disappointed me. His nomination is succinct and to the point.
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user30
12:29 AM
and pro much
 
@ThomasMcDonald It's super pro!
 
@FallenAngelEyes Next you're going to tell me that Lyndon Larouche and Vermin Supreme shouldn't be allowed to run for President.
 
I hereby make it my duty to do everything in my power to turn "pro much" into a meme to troll @FallenAngelEyes.
 
I'm suprised he didn't turn up to THC.
 
Oak
Man that was grueling :)
 
12:31 AM
@Oak Lightweight.
 
@Wipqozn More like "troll Gaming." :P That's all they want, attention, and we're giving him that. :( It just makes me cringe.
 
Yes, I know the irony.
 
user30
@FallenAngelEyes I don't think he put that much thought into it.
 
user30
I find it amusing.
 
Note to self: Never, EVER talk to GnomeSlice about relationships.
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jesus christ.
 
user30
12:33 AM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahah.
 
user30
I can guess.
 
Is it because of his bad past or is he critical of the concept, or...?
 
@Mana I thought that would be common sense.
 
@GraceNote He's...rather crude.
 
@Grace Any word on the HDD front? I don't mean to he a bother or anything.
 
12:34 AM
@Oak I feel mentally tired on your behalf.
 
@Mana And graphic?
 
(collective you)
 
@RonanForman I forget how you responded to my advice.
 
I want to throw another voice in here for @LessPopMoreFizz idea. I think having two separate rooms for questions and answers would be an ideal solution.
I already said that, but if enough of us repeat and over and over again, maybe it will happen!
 
@RonanForman Not too graphic, but when he asks me about the size of her breasts...
 
12:36 AM
@Mana this is why you shouldn't ask gnome for advice.
 
it's pretty weird.
 
@mana, I have a question, what's the size of her brain?
 
I've already asked, but even so, my household would still have to pay. And he won't buy all of it.
 
@RonanForman Oh, doh! That reminds me, did you ever find a replacement DVD drive? Because I do have one sitting in a box over here, from my first Xbox 360.
 
@Mana WHY WOULD YOU POST THAT HERE.
 
12:37 AM
@Mana ...oh. That kind of stuff is what you mean.
 
Oak
@FallenAngelEyes I'm still sad you're not participating :)
 
@Tim not yet. What make is it?
 
@GnomeSlice I think a better quesiton is why you would ask him.
 
Let's see
 
@Oak Same here. I don't get the same 1st choice that I had in the last two elections.
 
12:37 AM
@Wipqozn She is one of the smartest people I know. :)
 
I was joking around man, lighten up...
 
Oak
Anyway, yes, it doesn't feel like chat, it feels like a quick trivia tv-show
 
@Wipqozn INAPPROPRIATE.
 
Oak
Maybe a better format will allow some place for discussion...
otoh, lots of candidates * lots of questions doesn't leave a lot of room for discussion
 
@Gnome Suuuuuurrreeee. IDontBeliveYou
 
12:38 AM
@Oak As am I. Silly life getting in the way. :( I have confidence that we'll end up with 2 great mods, regardless. :)
 
Finally...answered...them all..... gasps for breath
 
@Mana Excellent.
 
user15026
@John gives cookie
 
@RonanForman It's the Hitachi one, which I think was the slightly-less-loud-than-the-previously-obscenely-loud-model model.
 
Oak
Anyway, it's interesting to see if it affected the primary votes
 
12:39 AM
@Mana What about me? I'm offended. Hurt even.
 
Oak
I seem to remember the last THC did change my vote somewhat
 
@John As a moderator you will often be called out on your decisions and will have to come up with something sensible. How does that make you feel now?
 
@badp TERRIBLE.
 
@badp this
 
12:40 AM
@John Gnomeslice asked you about the size of your significant other's breasts. How many years should he be banned for?
 
@AshleyNunn gobbles cookie while thinking of answer to @badp's question
@badp Eternity.
 
@John DING DING DING! Correct answer!
 
Oak
@badp oh man you made my day :)
 
@badp I already have some experience explaining decisions (usually not mine) to people on MSO, so I don't find this that daunting.
 
@badp Does saying 0 make it now set a limit and therefore never unban him?
 
12:41 AM
@Wipqozn It is terribly dissonant to listen to that while playing peaceful ol' Rorona celtic music in the background.
 
@RonanForman Unfortunately, nope.
I need to try -1 though.
 
I think I need emotional counselling.
 
For?
 
@Tim can I have a picture, so I know if it's the same shape?
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Given earlier comments, I'm actually inclined to believe you're serious on that thought.
 
12:42 AM
@RonanForman I like the out of context value for that one.
 
@John I'm still working :(
 
Not what I'm talking about!!!!
 
Why would you star that...
 
@RonanForman Sure.
 
@GraceNote Emotions.
 
12:43 AM
Now I know how @GnomeSlice feels.
 
@Wipqozn Actually I thought it was funnier in the context of Gnome's asking about Mana's girl's breasts, and whether or not they're in the same shape of Ronan's man boobs.
 
@GnomeSlice My assumption is that others aren't expecting you to be serious about actual emotional distress that you implied with discussing with @Mana and are instead thinking you're referring to the recent context of us slamming you about asking about breasts (and in general, one might say).
 
@GraceNote Oh, that's understandable.
@GraceNote Bwahahaha, I appreciate the honesty. :P
 
user19161
@GraceNote I see you look different from the last time I saw you.
 
To be honest @GnomeSlice I agree with @GraceNote. You do seem to have trouble keeping your emotions in check, and they seem to vary wildly. Emotional counseling could be very useful.
 
12:45 AM
I should get tested for moodswings.
Assuming that's a diagnoseable condition.
 
@badp I don't have man boobs, not only am I not fat, I'm actually the opposite of fat.
 
@Wipqozn The last psychiatrist I saw didn't help at all.
 
@OrigamiRobot Keep at it!
 
@gnome You should get tested for hypochondria.
 
If you're feeling mighty down or even up-down, then it may be good to seek counselling.
 
12:46 AM
@RonanForman That's not what the out-of-context star seems to imply once it's in context. That makes your message even more star worthy
 
@RonanForman No, I'm not a hypochondriac
 
user19161
@GnomeSlice If you think you need it then I think you need it.
 
@GnomeSlice May take a few tries to get one you can work well with.
 
user19161
@GraceNote What about mighty up?
 
@JasperLoy Is that... someone agreeing with my point of view, in chat!?
 
12:47 AM
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@FallenAngelEyes This. 110% this.
 
I gots dinners to dine.
 
@GraceNote See @Ullallulloo?! I'm not the only person!
 
@GraceNote Eat well!
 
@GnomeSlice I agree with @Wipqozn. You seem emotionally unstable.
 
12:48 AM
@John HERP-A-DERP NEVER MIND
 
user19161
@GnomeSlice No I am not agreeing with you or disagreeing with you. My thinking is, if you think you need it, it means you don't think you can help yourself, in which case you need someone else to help you.
 
@GraceNote Just had some cold pizza leftovers from my dinner. Yum yum!
 
@Wipqozn That's the best thing you've ever said.
 
There's even more cold pizza leftovers than I ate. Waiting for me, loyally, in the fridge. Yum yum yum!
 
12:49 AM
I don't think anyone can help me, to be honest.
 
@badp I love cold pizza almost as much as warm pizza. Maybe more.
 
user19161
@GraceNote Dinners? Give me one of them then!
 
@GnomeSlice There's no harm in trying.
 
@TimStone That image turns my floppy disk into a hard drive.
 
@GnomeSlice Then you can't be helped.
 
12:49 AM
@Wipqozn @GnomeSlice this
 
@FallenAngelEyes Correct.
 
Therapy has to be willing.
You have to be willing to compromise, and most of all, to change.
 
@GnomeSlice I take it @Mana didn't use your pick-up lines to get his first date.
also goes off to eat dinner
 
user19161
@GnomeSlice So you think you cannot help yourself and also that others cannot help either?
 
@TimStone Believe it or not, I'm not as retarded as I act.
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@JasperLoy Pretty much.
 
12:50 AM
If you're not, then it doesn't matter if you have the best psych in the city, county, state, or country. They can't force you to do something you don't want to do.
 
user19161
@GnomeSlice If you don't mind sharing I am all ears.
 
@GnomeSlice Then act like you are.
 
resists temptation to edit it to ":3309776 Believe it or not, I'm not as retarded as I act. I'M MORE MWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAWHHAWAHHWHAHHHAHAHAWHWHAWHWHHAHAAHAWHHAHAWHAHAWAHW"
 
@FallenAngelEyes I think their is a different between how willing you are, and whether or not you think someone can help you.
 
So you star that, but mot my stupid computersex joke?
 
12:51 AM
@badp Do it
 
1 min ago, by GnomeSlice
@TimStone That image turns my floppy disk into a hard drive.
@badp =[
 
@GnomeSlice that's why I resisted it
 
In short, I'm a troll.
 
@badp You used to be cool @badp.
 
I do dumb stuff to get attention.
And I've gotten really good at it.
 
12:52 AM
@Wipqozn There's still a strong correlation. You have to be willing to be helped.
 
@Wipqozn lol, wut?
 
user19161
@GnomeSlice Wait this is what you are talking about, or something else?
 
@RonanForman Ah, chat didn't do what I asked, so see this photo by the way
 
@FallenAngelEyes That's not as black and white as you're making it sound.
@JasperLoy Something else.
 
12:53 AM
I will say that for all of his act and everything, GnomeSlice is surprisingly good at advice regarding emotions and women.
 
user19161
@GnomeSlice Ah OK, good luck to you. Just know that you are not alone in your suffering in this world. May the force be with you.
 
I think I'm done, but who knows :(
 
@GnomeSlice Of course it isn't. We're human. We live in shades of grey. But you still have to decide you want to change, no one can make you change.
 
15 mins ago, by badp
@John As a moderator you will often be called out on your decisions and will have to come up with something sensible. How does that make you feel now?
 
I will also say that he is pretty much the guy responsible for me deciding to ask Daphne about her feelings about me, which is what led to the aforementioned happiness that I am experiencing now.
 
12:55 AM
BITCH.
 
So...GnomeSlice : Pretty cool guy.
 
@FallenAngelEyes I think you're confusing lack of faith with lack of will.
 
@Mana Careful there with your information leaking
 
Thanks man.
 
@badp A first name isn't a big deal.
 
12:55 AM
@FallenAngelEyes Again, not as simple as that.
 
@OrigamiRobot This is an additional question you now feel the urge to answer. Please make it easier for both of us and just moan at its general direction.
 
user19161
@Mana Oh, this is new to me.
 
The future Mrs. Alexander Mana.
 
@Wipqozn Well, if I make a decision, I will have a sensible reason so I wont need to "come up" with anything.
 
@Mana Daphne? OH MAN I'M GOING TO LOOK HER UP ON FACEBOOK, AND LIKE LIKE ALL HER POSTS, AND THEN MAKE A FRIEND REQUEST!!ONEONE111!
 
12:56 AM
@Mana Hey, it took me many years of time before I would release even my first name to the internets at large.
 
@Wipqozn Do not do that.
 
@Mana See also: area51.stackexchange.com/users/22475/gnomeslice (Note the Followed Proposals.)
 
Although it doesn't help that my first name is kinda uncommon.
 
@badp This is not a question.
 
@JasperLoy Hey, you changed your name back.
 
12:56 AM
@OrigamiRobot Fine, you asked for it.
 
user19161
@Mana Yes, full disclosure. Nothing to be ashamed of.
 
Also, @mana, is this your g/f:
 
I'm not going to lie.
That's the first thing I imagined too.
Then I switched to Velma.
 
@JasperLoy Who were you before?
 
@badp COME AT ME BRO
 
12:57 AM
@Wipqozn I hate you, but that's not the first time that joke's been made before.
 
Aw, who did that. :P
 
user19161
@Wipqozn Will Hunting.
 
@Mana Makes the roleplaying interesting.
 
I don't think I'm communicating myself well here, nor do I have the capacity or the desire to defend my POV at the moment, so I'm just going to leave this discussion. Have a good night, all.
 
@GnomeSlice Yeah, Daphne seems like the kind of person you would have a one-night stand with, and velma is the person you have an actual relationship built on trust and love with.
 
user19161
12:58 AM
@FallenAngelEyes Goodnight! Somehow I have said many goodnights to you.
 
@Wipqozn ...Maybe for YOU.
 
G'night @FallenAngelEyes
 
@OrigamiRobot As a moderator it'll be part of your duty to maintain a clean and active meta for both users and the staff, which only really looks at either what you link them to or what's in the unanswered tab. As such, you'll be expected to answer pretty much all softballs on Gaming Meta, and this is even underlined by the simple fact those questions immediately land in your inbox even before they hit the homepage. How does this endless slaughter of questions you must answer make you feel now?
 
I never found Daphne to be particularly shallow.
 
@JasperLoy Wait...those both sound like real names.
 
12:58 AM
Velma was pretty hot stuff though.
 
@GnomeSlice she's fairly was slow though. Doesn't seem like she would have much to talk about outside of "I LOVE FASHION! SHOES ARE GREAT!"
 
user19161
@badp Sounds scary!
 
Take warning!
 
12:59 AM
@GnomeSlice Usher made that joke before you.
 
@Wipqozn Precisely my point.
@LessPop_MoreFizz Joke?
 
@Gnome: Seek help if you feel you need it. It's the right thing to do, and I have faith in you. G'night.
 
user19161
@Ullallulloo Ya so now many might be confused.
 
@GnomeSlice I'm 10 minutes behind.
Look at what I replied to.
 
@GnomeSlice She was mostly an empty character IIRC, up until the flanderization in the most recent movies
 
12:59 AM
@LessPop_MoreFizz It's not a reply.
 

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