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jrg

12:00 AM

@RolandTaylor redoing that video of unity 3D multiple monitors in a minute, anything special you want me to cover?

@ThomasWard welcome to the 3K club.

Roland Taylor

@jrg if we can hide the launcher on the other screen, that I'd like to know.

jrg

@RolandTaylor ok. i'll research that. installs the forbidden ccsm

Octavian Damiean

@ThomasWard Sorry, I just couldn't vote on the Wubi answer. Something inside of me screamed OH GOD NOOOO HELL NOOO!!

Roland Taylor

insert meaningful statement here <--- does that action

jrg

Oh, and btw - i've found using the kazam trunk is better than the PPA.

Thomas Ward

12:03 AM

@Octavian i know right?

i'm actually slapping myself for recommending it

@jrg w00t!

Roland Taylor

@jrg Oh?

jrg

So, first things first @ThomasWard, get your butt in the regulators room and start voting. :P

@RolandTaylor yeah

don't ask me to explain it, it just is.

Roland Taylor

:P

I have a strange craving for cornflakes.

jrg

@OctavianDamiean i find it odd that the linaro person in that Ask Ubuntu goodies post has a Mac

Thomas Ward

@jrg heh.

also, i just got the Mortarboard badge :)

Octavian Damiean

12:05 AM

There are quite a lot of Ubuntu contributors that have a Mac but run Ubuntu on it. :)

jrg

@OctavianDamiean I know, the ubuntu tweak dev does, as does the ubiquity dev (and founder of this sites area51 proposal!)

@ThomasWard :D

Octavian Damiean

I think Mike Basinger does too.

I'm actually quite sure he does or did.

I should change that picture to that picture of Jorge and me. I look like a zombie on that picture in the meta question.

A cool Ubuntu zombie but still a zombie.

Thomas Ward

now i'm going to go get something to eat, i'm hungry

Octavian Damiean

Oh noes! I wear the wrong T-Shirt on that picture.

facebalms

user19161

Anyone experienced slow logout using unity 2d instead of 3d?

user19161

12:15 AM

Also weird to note that Fedora 16 shuts down twice as fast as Ubuntu 11.10, I wonder why.

Octavian Damiean

Mhmm, I have not tried Fedora since ... uh ... not sure if I tried Fedora at all.

user19161

Also both Fedora 16 and Ubuntu 11.10 have a problem with backlight on two of my machines.

jrg

I tried Fedora once.

or twice.

@OctavianDamiean Mike? Yeah he does.

user19161

Brightness settings are not preserved after restart.

jrg

@JasperLoy pretty sure thats a gnome 3 issue.

and i'm also pretty sure we have a answer on the site... googles

user19161

12:18 AM

@jrg Yeah hope it will be fixed upstream, there were no problems with gnome 2.

user19161

@jrg There are lots of questions on that, but no definite answer.

user19161

I mean the problem could be lots of different things.

jrg

this work? - askubuntu.com/questions/3841/…

user19161

@jrg Tried it. It sort of works but not as described. Thanks. Just wanted to see if someone found a better workaround.

user19161

For example, although that decreases the brightness, it is not to the level set in the file.

jrg

12:22 AM

I see.

user19161

@OctavianDamiean I thought you meant hi5 for Windows being free!

Octavian Damiean

heh

Thomas Ward

WINDOWS IS FREE?

SINCE WHEN?

whoopsies, caps

Octavian Damiean

I might be a bit crazy but not that crazy!

user19161

@ThomasWard Only the pirated version which I never used.

Octavian Damiean

12:30 AM

Actually, I might be that crazy but I like to pretend I'm not.

Thomas Ward

outside of the pirated versions :P

considering I get WIndows via the MSDN... :P

user19161

I have cast my votes for the mod election, shh...

Octavian Damiean

I'm still holding my votes back until I read the Town Hall chat transcript. :)

rlemon

ok so I have a issue with gparted. (i don't know what i'm doing)

jrg

@rlemon oh great... whats up?

user19161

12:33 AM

@OctavianDamiean You mean a candidate can vote too?

jrg

Yes, a candidate can vote.

rlemon

@jrg so I deleted my windows partition... now I have 40GiB of free space... how do I extend my ubuntu partition to fill the drive.

Octavian Damiean

@rlemon That is exactly the type of issues you don't want when working with gparted. :)

rlemon

I haven't done anything to my ubuntu partition... yet..

just windows.

Windows is GONE!

Octavian Damiean

\o/

user19161

12:35 AM

@rlemon And that was intended right?

jrg

I'm not walking you through that, I'm not 100% sure how i'd do it myself...

rlemon

yes

user19161

@rlemon Simple, reinstall Ubuntu, haha.

jrg

Unlike my Windows removal in gparted... ah, the good 'ol days. :P

rlemon

[ unallocated ] [ swap ] [ ubuntu ]

me needs to have this fixed :P

Octavian Damiean

12:37 AM

I would format it as ext4 for starters.

rlemon

if it's a fresh install then so be it... kinda hoping i wouldn't have to though.

Octavian Damiean

That can never be wrong.

user19161

@rlemon I like fresh installs. They make me feel clean.

user19161

@OctavianDamiean What about the dessert then?

rlemon

but how do I merge two partitions separated by a swap.

Octavian Damiean

12:37 AM

@JasperLoy Yea, you'll get over that feeling once you forget about your old Windows days.

jrg

I don't think you can...

Octavian Damiean

@JasperLoy I'm not quite sure yet.

jrg

what you could do is move /home over to that partition.

easier than resizing everything

Octavian Damiean

nods

jrg

not to mention a heckuva lot safer.

Octavian Damiean

12:39 AM

That'd make sense BUT only after backing up ALL THE THINGS!

user19161

Unity and Banshee crash a lot.

user19161

I wonder why that is so technically.

jrg

@OctavianDamiean well, if you follow the directions, you don't even technically need a backup (not that I'm implying you shouldn't/don't need them)

rlemon

lets hope it does not....

Octavian Damiean

Blasphemy! How dare you question the backup?

user19161

12:41 AM

@rlemon Whatever you do, just back up all your data externally.

rlemon

nothing important on the drive... ssd. all data stays on hdd.. just didn't want to have to reset everything up.

@SSD you so fast....

Jorge Castro

anyone using ddwrt?

Octavian Damiean

Oh, fancy! Sublime Text 2!

badp

And @castrojo will henceforth be known as Groppler Jorge. Let's hope the Ferengi find him as tasty as their past associates.

Tweeted by segphault on February 8, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Jorge Castro

heh

Octavian Damiean

12:46 AM

Nope.

rlemon

ok everyone... cross your fingers! hopefully i'll be back!

badp

@JorgeCastro got promoted?

rlemon

Woot!

Windows free and ubuntu is rocking all 60GiB of my SSD! and all by myself... kinda... and no errors/crashes

Octavian Damiean

:)

Isn't it wonderful?

rlemon

yes... yes it is... now to instantly get Diablo II: LOD working in WINE

lol :P

Octavian Damiean

12:50 AM

lol

Mate, Minecraft is all you need.

rlemon

I have been addicted to Minicraft for a few days now... haven't gotten into Minecraft yet.

Octavian Damiean

WHAT!? Pokemon meets Minecraft?

rlemon

Minecraft meets Legend of Zelda... not Pokemon... how old are you?!?!

Legend of Zelda -> all other games like it (including pokemon) -> minicraft.

Marco Ceppi

I've come to the conclusion asking "How old are you" on the internet is henceforth irrelevant.

rlemon

it was rhetorical

Octavian Damiean

12:55 AM

Hey, Pokemon is awesome.

rlemon

it's like referencing something to being like "pokemon trading cards", when in fact MTG would be the correct reference .

it is. however it is the most awesome thing to hit 16bit graphics SINCE Zelda.

Jorge Castro

@badp we're trying to catch you guys in traffic, we're getting close!

Octavian Damiean

Never played Zelda.

Jorge Castro

stackexchange.com/sites

Octavian Damiean

I have played Mario though!

Jorge Castro

12:57 AM

only 6k difference now!

rlemon

man, you don't know what you're missing.. granted the first Zelda for NES was good. SNES Zelda: Link to the past is by far my favorite

Thomas Ward

@MarcoCeppi you're just coming to that conclusion?

rlemon

for the record... the new zelda's for Wii kinda suck. disappointing really..

Marco Ceppi

no way, Skyward Sword was great

rlemon

It had it's moments... but so did Twilight Princess...

Wipqozn

12:59 AM

@JorgeCastro Never

rlemon

but overall I could not get into it as much as the old Zelda's

Marco Ceppi

Well, what did you think of the Wind Waker?

rlemon

It's like no FF will ever compare to FF7

Marco Ceppi

eye roll Final Fantasy

Octavian Damiean

Yet another game I've never played.

Marco Ceppi

1:00 AM

BTW, there are a bunch of rabid gamers over here

Octavian Damiean

I should probably mention that I'm not the fantasy kind of guy.

Marco Ceppi

I would be amiss if I didn't mention it

rlemon

yea... FF, and Lufia, and Soul Blazer.. all epic childhood games.

Marco Ceppi

Galaga.

George Edison

@JorgeCastro: I'm back.

You had a question?

rlemon

1:02 AM

Making a poorly dressed Italian Plumber jump on walking mushrooms and bang his head for money was never quite challenging enough for me...

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro I tore up those retro arcade games at UDS

Jorge Castro

@MarcoCeppi they had a retro party at SCALE

with like old school video games, some air hockey

Octavian Damiean

@rlemon Neither was it to me.

rlemon

@OctavianDamiean i mean.. i still played and beat them all... partly because they were shipped with every nintendo system ever made.

Octavian Damiean

I am more the shooter kind of guy. :)

rlemon

1:04 AM

strategy, and rpg for me.

Marco Ceppi

SCALE!!!

Octavian Damiean

And yes, I've been playing shooters before Counter Strike. :P

Marco Ceppi

We've fallen behind in the cleanup

Jorge Castro

@MarcoCeppi I can't find any questions

I have all my flags though

George Edison

@JorgeCastro What did you want to ask me?

Marco Ceppi

1:05 AM

Time to jump to the API

Octavian Damiean

@MarcoCeppi Oy vey!

rlemon

the only shooter I can say I ever played somewhat long term was 007 for the N64 and Halo

Jorge Castro

@GeorgeEdison I totally always ping you in the morning and then forget what about

George Edison

:)

Octavian Damiean

hehe

Marco Ceppi

1:06 AM

I'm a HL/HL2/Source junkie

Thomas Ward

@rlemon 007 ON THE N64! I still play that! xD

Jorge Castro

oh right, I was wondering if you were bored with the SE API and want to make more charms

Marco Ceppi

@OctavianDamiean You still play any source games?

Thomas Ward

@MarcoCeppi HalfLife / HalfLife2?

Marco Ceppi

Yes

rlemon

1:06 AM

@ThomasWard yea... good times was getting someone who hadn't played the game stuck in a corner and you with a rocket launcher..

or watching them shoot a wall with the rocket launcher point blank the first time they get it. also lols

Octavian Damiean

@MarcoCeppi I still have a key and sometimes I still play CS1.6 :)

Marco Ceppi

Ushers everyone to the Gaming chat room

Thomas Ward

@rlemon or in my case, the person who spawns isnt actually there atm, you pick up prox mines, and set them in a pattern around the person :P

then they move, and BOOM

rlemon

@ThomasWard hahah yup.. done that.

I gotta pee don't kill me.... OK

anyways... back to my install.

Thomas Ward

:P

rlemon

1:09 AM

I think I shall open a sharaz in honour of my windows departure... and in the mean time get WINE going.

Marco Ceppi

@GeorgeEdison How can I search for questions with a tag in Stack.PHP?

Shoo @Wipqozn

George Edison

@MarcoCeppi This:

Wipqozn

I don't even know how I managed to join this room right now.

swoosh

George Edison

API::Site('stackapps')->Questions()->Tagged('tag')->Exec()

Marco Ceppi

thought so, thanks!

George Edison

1:13 AM

:3310120 That's the old version of the API.

Marco Ceppi

(I couldn't find Tagged in the Stack.PHP doc)

George Edison

Really?

rlemon

I should update my bookmark...

George Edison

@MarcoCeppi stackphp.quickmediasolutions.com/doc/…

Marco Ceppi

Ah, I'm looking in the Site doc

For an array of tags, will it be an AND or OR match?

George Edison

1:14 AM

There's an index here.

@MarcoCeppi AND, I believe.

...but let me check.

Marco Ceppi

bah, kk ;)

George Edison

Yup, it's AND.

> "This is an and contraint, passing tagged=c;java will return only those questions with both tags."

rlemon

when swapping out discs while installing in WINE is there any trick to it? like i unmount the first disc and put in the second..

Octavian Damiean

1:29 AM

@MarcoCeppi Ondina uses Ubuntu Server, eh? <333

Marco Ceppi

Yup! :)

Only the best!

Octavian Damiean

Totally endorse CouchDB and Juju. I guess you want to wait until those technologies are more mature?

Marco Ceppi

It's being considered

We don't fully endorse them

Juju likely will be used for management post-precise release, CouchDB is still being investigated, as it OpenStack

Jorge Castro

juju will be ready post-12.04

I wouldn't do production stuff on it quite yet

Marco Ceppi

Right, we're not - but we're charming our infrastructure in anticipation :)

Jorge Castro

1:38 AM

and the charm store won't freeze for a release until release+1

so the real benefit will be the cycle after the release

rlemon

what if i don't have /dev/hdc/ where do I point WINE

nvm

hrm.. still nothing.. why do these guides never give it to you straight.

Octavian Damiean

Because they are not on Ask Ubuntu. ;)

Marco Ceppi

@OctavianDamiean If you wanted to discuss other logistics, I'd be happy to carry on the convo elsewhere :)

Octavian Damiean

I'm really considering applying for a PPR but I got stuck on the What interests you most about Ondina?. I'd totally want to answer, Every-friggin-thing

Damn PPAs ... :P

Marco Ceppi

Well, the field is optional - but I just realized that form is broken

Octavian Damiean

1:51 AM

Oy!

Marco Ceppi

First impressions <3

but it's fixed now if you want to refresh and fill it out again

Octavian Damiean

Yup, it worked. :)

Marco Ceppi

We're starting PPR on the 13th so you should be getting an invite by the end of the monthish

Octavian Damiean

Awesome. :)

rlemon

well can't get wine to work... looks like it's another night of working.

Octavian Damiean

2:01 AM

So, I read this OMG! Ubuntu! article about Sublime Text 2 and I instantly bought it.

3 a.m. - time to get some sleep. Night guys!

George Edison

2:24 AM

@MarcoCeppi: Some kind of markdown, huh?

Marco Ceppi

I see a lot of markup - not a lot of markdown :)

George Edison

Oh, lol. That's true.

Marco Ceppi

Results are nice though

George Edison

That's the important thing.

Questions Feed

2:38 AM

Bounty offered: Mouse wheel jumpy on scrolling http://askubuntu.com/questions/32280/mouse-wheel-jumpy-on-scrolling #mousescroll

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on February 8, 2012 at 2:27 AM

William

2:49 AM

Hello, @all!

George Edison

Hi.

William

Lovely town hall chat today.

George Edison

I read the transcript.

William

Good for you.

news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57372847-1/raspberry-pi-$25-computers-ready-to-go-february-20/

Any interest?

I am most certainly buying one.

George Edison

The Raspberry Pi is ready already?

William

2:59 AM

In two weeks, yeah.

George Edison

Cool!

William

My thoughts exactly.

William

3:25 AM

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A: Connecting to the internet through Firefox

You have scarcely any detail in your question, so it is very hard to help you. But, I will try to touch on the most common issues with getting online and Ubuntu. I hope this helps, and if you need clarification, please ask. But next time, please be a little more specific. You said that you use W...

pls approve edit

George Edison

Edit?

One Zero

hi , i have answered a ? plz have a look have i answered right askubuntu.com/questions/102406/…

William

@GeorgeEdison I edited the question to make the formatting look better, please approve the edit.

George Edison

Oh, okay.

William

Thank you.

George Edison

3:31 AM

I don't see the edit.

Are you sure you gave me the correct link?

William

hmm.. I'll try again.

@GeorgeEdison nvm, seems to have corrected itself. Sorry to have bothered you.

George Edison

No problem.

Thomas Ward

aww, nobody's answered this: meta.askubuntu.com/questions/2499/…

William

@ThomasWard Thus is life.

I still have only one upvote on askubuntu.com/questions/102396/… , which I spent 20 minutes on. This also makes me sad.

Should I make a tag wiki for [date] ?

Thomas Ward

3:46 AM

if you want.

personally i think date should be burninated, but meh

William

ok.

George Edison

4:05 AM

And FlackBot gets smarter...

William

Man...

I am impressed.

Thomas Ward

@GeorgeEdison is flackbot oss yet?

George Edison

Yup.

Thomas Ward

completely?

George Edison

launchpad.net/flackbot

All except for the code that actually posts the physical messages to chat.

One Zero

4:09 AM

hi

William

hello

One Zero

plz have look at this ? askubuntu.com/questions/93942/lxc-containers-bridge-connection

this ? is mine

Thomas Ward

@OneZero for the record, using "?" to denote the word "question" annoys some people... you dont need to use txtspk on here :/

William

Sorry, but I can't help you.

Thomas Ward

woah, holy crap...

rubs eyes

William

4:11 AM

I know absolutely nothing on that topic.

One Zero

i was thinking do u guys have any good web abt lxc containers

Thomas Ward

i'll give you $0.15, @William to edit that question so the formatting works better

William

If I saw holy crap I'd rub my eyes too...

Thomas Ward

because the formatting in that question as it is just explodified that window of ffox :/

William

OK I'll edit it

gimme a minute to finish the answer im currently working on

Thomas Ward

4:13 AM

you do agree with me that the formatting in that question is semi-damaging to the mind, right?

William

Yes.

Thomas Ward

i mean, random code blocks, random quote blocks... random shiftw between bold/notbold...

goes to find coffee, as he now requires some

William

I call editing. No one else try to edit simultaneously.

Thomas Ward

edits it simultaneously in order to annoy @William xD

lol i kid

William

I feel so annoyed...

You know what -

I don't have time for this.

Thomas Ward

4:16 AM

lol

William

someone else can waste their time for 2 reputation and 15 cents

Thomas Ward

or for no rep... :P

William

nah, talking about the +2 edit

William

4:35 AM

0

A: how to downgrade

Welcome to Ask Ubuntu! Sorry, but once you've upgraded, your'e stuck. You'll have to completely reinstall the operating system from an older version of Ubuntu 's cd. You can download disk image files of older releases of Ubuntu from cdimages.ubuntu.com. From this point forward, be sure to try out...

Umm... what just happened?

I answered the question first and have the most complete answer, then two people come along later and answer the question in a sentence or two.

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Q: Why i have 2 launch bar after installing ccsm

Just install Ununtu Oneric (11.10) and Compiz, make some tweak, everything is looking grate, however. now I have two launch bar and those setting dos not star automatically if I logout and log back in. I'll appreciate any help you can provide. PS: all my drivers are up to date, my PC is a ace...

amd-graphics

Anyone understand what is being asked?

Sathya

@ThomasWard my mind, my eyes..

@William I just did -.-

William

@Sathya Good job.

Sathya

I'm actually surprised it's got a score of +2

William

don't forget the 15 cents!

@ThomasWard pay up!

0

Q: Connecting to the internet through Firefox

I downloaded Ubuntu and can't access the internet. I have Windows XP. Can you help?

networking

what a waste of my time.

Thomas Ward

@William I just did. Oh wait, you got taxed for it, oh well :P

William

4:45 AM

@Sathya Now we have both wasted our time.

@ThomasWard If I got taxed for it I would have to pay the goverment money

it would be in the negatives.

Thomas Ward

@William the feds just taxed me on the $0.15 and took the entire $0.15 :/

William

;(

Thomas Ward

@William is this even on topic for AU? It seems their question might be for WinXP and not Ubuntu, if i'm interpreting the failed vagueness of the question right

Sathya

@William heh.

I'd have closed it as NARQ

William

I dunno how to interpret the vaugeness

and I still have only one upvote

Sathya

4:48 AM

annoying to start from 0 on a new site when you have full privs on the other :/

William

what a waste of time

Thomas Ward

i'm tempted to close-vote it

William

at least gives me upvotes first

Thomas Ward

you already have an upvote.

and i just voted to close :p

William

Upvote tax!

More upvotes... more... more!

Thomas Ward

4:50 AM

you got an up vote.

the question got a down vote

William

Thanks to you.

Thomas Ward

and a VTC vote

William

I voted low quality

0

Q: Why i have 2 launch bar after installing ccsm

Just install Ununtu Oneric (11.10) and Compiz, make some tweak, everything is looking grate, however. now I have two launch bar and those setting dos not star automatically if I logout and log back in. I'll appreciate any help you can provide. PS: all my drivers are up to date, my PC is a ace...

compiz

pls close vote it into nonexistence

I cant stand to look at it anymore

dont even know what the OP means

Thomas Ward

VTC-NARQ'd

William

BOOM!

IT HAZ EXPLODED!

Thomas Ward

4:53 AM

now i just need 2k more rep and then i can do tag wiki stuffs :P