The Nineteenth Byte

Are ya'll from Texas also?

Nah

@QPaysTaxes Scout, Medic, Demo ~~knight~~ man, etc

Indiana Jones and a pretty face.

I was about to suggest a Wizard. Desert circa 1900 blows that option out of the water.

Camel trainer?

4:26 PM

"confused blogger"

Time traveler?

Yea, but dhje doesn't know it at first.

All of your current classes have adjectives in front of them lol

So every merchant in your game is lost, every nomad is exiled

El'endia Starman

Man, I keep playing with this: spielzeugz.de/html5/liquid-particles

So maybe your camel trainer is "Dejected camel trainer"

And then we have "Eccentric time traveler"

Geobits did well with confused blogger

4:28 PM

@El'endiaStarman that's so COOL

I've got a XKCD bookmark, but I keep on forgetting that it points to a random XKCD, so everytime I open it up, I think that there's a new awesome XKCD

@El'endiaStarman Interesting effect since the size of each particle is based on its velocity.

"kidnapped heir"

"scurvy-ridden pirate"

@QPaysTaxes @QPaysTaxes no, only C++

"diseased street urchin"

"insane criminal"

El'endia Starman

4:32 PM

@PhiNotPi That's cool, and I especially like the combination of gravity and fluid-like interaction with the particles.

"oddball downvoter"

"fake unicorn"

"Terrifying Mod"

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I'm not that old!

@Phrancis Clearly the answer is yes.

4:34 PM

@El'endiaStarman you old hag :P

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes ಠ_ಠ

Figured I'd take a screenshot for posterity before it got nuked

aditsu

> They have balls also.

ballroom dance, perhaps?

> Djhected camel trainer.

ftfy

@Phrancis link?

4:44 PM

@Quill yup, but not with mocha as I'm too lazy to learn that. I wasn't able to get the reports uploaded to codecov but code climate works

@Quill y an?

Q: Does programmers need to dance?

in The 2nd Monitor, 16 mins ago, by Jeroen Vannevel

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we can go on dance practicing, I dont want to but my mother says you will need it even as programmer. They have balls also. I disagree with it So can some programmer and I mean actually programmer who works in some medium or greater firm tell me how it is with dancing ? How you used it in your li...

java

lol

thanks

@zyabin101 I personally do not understand the need for private repos :/

@Downgoat private code, eh

@Phrancis they should of asked on code review where it's on topic >:P

@Phrancis what's "private code"?

4:49 PM

@Downgoat It might be on-topic on reddit

@Downgoat Code you don't want the public to have access to

@Phrancis then why wouldn't you just keep it on your computer locally?

@Downgoat because with private repo, you can still collab, just in private with only giving access to who you decide to

Oh ok

@Zgarb thanks for posting on the Tour :)

Also if your PC dies, you're not losing all your private code ;)

5:00 PM

@Phrancis Brb making private repo with all my passwords in a JSON

lolol

@Mego Travis doesn't love goats :(

@trichoplax waddaya mean? Code Review has been here for a while :P

trichoplax

:P

5:17 PM

@Phrancis Tempted to vote to undelete. Is that bad?

@Geobits yes

privilege abuse eleven

What if I want to undelete it so that I can downvote it and delete it again?

What's the recommended amount of code that should be submitted to code review? Becuase, I've considered doing some code review for my crafting game, but my current code is approaching 1000 lines in total.

I recommend zero ;)

@Geobits still

@PhiNotPi what I've heard from the code reviewers is to post it all

1000 is well under the 64000 character limit

5:23 PM

It should be, unless it seriously needs some review.

@Downgoat I didn't realize the limit was that large.

Is that normal?

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

no, SE increased it for CR

New Sandboxed Posts

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Simulate a DNA Computer code-golf DNA computers are very powerful computational models, theoretically able to solve NP-complete problems such as SAT deterministically in polynomial time. Your task in this challenge is to write a program/function that simulates the behaviour of a very simple DNA ...

mınxomaτ

A few stats about the codegolf.xyz proxy: In the last month, 1719 unique users browsed PPCG using that proxy. A total of 63303 pages were served (~1 GB traffic). Only about 29% of users choose the experimental SSL page. The most active day had 179 users, the least active just 77.

@Downgoat .... you just gave me like 10 emails. gg

and thanks for the tag.

5:34 PM

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ @Downgoat ಠ_ಠ

you should really disable emails from github

@Downgoat Eh. It's pointed at my spam account anyway.

I wasn't expecting it to panic when I opened it.

@VTCAKAVSMoACE hey, I got tons from @Downgoat also.

1 min ago, by Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Downgoat .... you just gave me like 10 emails. gg

but sorry about that.

@VTCAKAVSMoACE brace yourself.

hey, I also got like 6 emails

but yeah, sorry about the spam emails

^

@VTCAKAVSMoACE okay, should be done until @Downgoat fixes.

5:43 PM

oh god, what happened to the header

Help this site groq#w

@wizzwizz4 Facepalm.

Slightly less embarrassing link!

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:-)

5:49 PM

rofl

mho

@Downgoat please keep updating the version number, helps with tampermonkey.

mınxomaτ

@wizzwizz4 rofl my hair off?

* head.

"What's the difference between a markov chain and a neural network?"

5:51 PM

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ btw, give the changes a minute to take effect, github caches raws

what kind of question is that, they have nothing in common

@Fatalize of course they do

Not really no

Obviously some people aren't sure, so it's a good question!

@Downgoat okay

5:53 PM

Commit to the site :-)

technical questions would probably all fit on cross validated

non-technical questions will probably be speculative circlejerk

@wizzwizz4 please don't post that link again, stop spamming.

Sorry.

@wizzwizz4 (should've been the link)‮

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@VTCAKAVSMoACE ihaichu

5:55 PM

I'd commit to AI.se if all the answers were written by AI.

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there's also data science SE

so basically AI is redundant for technical questions

A: This would dilute traffic from CS and the DataScience sites

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I am not sure about this claim. Assuming machine learning is part of AI, data science often sees ML as an application of its analysis results (well, I should cite a few books here). The DataScience project is more focused on statistics and modeling, I believe. On the other hand AI is also concer...

@Fatalize both are series of interconnected states which are weighted based on something

@Geobits like you?

@Fatalize Planning to post that earlier, but thought it might seem spammy. You carried on the topic, so I posted it.

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Stop editing that please, it pings me every time.

5:56 PM

You can ask coffee and/or beer questions on Seasoned Advice, but there are still dedicated stacks for each.

@wizzwizz4 (sorry)

@Downgoat lol, so then the question "what's the difference between spiders and horses" on biology SE would be acceptable to you?

they both have legs

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Just noticed what you did: nice work!

@Geobits Some of them will be...

By the way, have I passed the Turing Test?

@Fatalize asking what's the genetic difference between apes and humans would be a valid biology question

@Fatalize I'm guessing if you narrowed that down a bit it'd be a good question.

5:58 PM

^

^^

^^^

@Geobits that's my point, difference between markov chains and neural networks is a stupid question as is

@Downgoat the fixed worked, but now it looks fugly.

It'd be great if <script> tags could list their dependencies

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5:58 PM

@NathanMerrill you should probably check your email....

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ i know, the textshadow fix should take a sec to kick in

my email is open...

@Fatalize Then say that on A51. Recommend something. There are no comments on it.

@NathanMerrill solution: use babel+browserify

@NathanMerrill lucky, me and downgoat were accidentally spamming emails by discussing the PPCG design userscript.

6:00 PM

"What are the differences in models generated by HMM and RNN on identical time series?" would be a more meaningful question

but would be on topic on both data science and crossvalidated

Overlap hasn't ever been a reason for a site not to exist, unless you can show complete overlap. Even then, my example of coffee.se still stands.

the only questions that don't overlap are the ones like this: "How emotional intelligence could be implemented in AI?"

which are as stupid as the questions in the Paranormal proposal

SO used to completely overlap certain sites (like Programmers)

So I take it you won't be committing to the site then? ;)

but adding a site reduced the scope of the original site

6:03 PM

Hell, SO used to include [code-golf] too :P

lol

but we invented [king-of-the-hill], right?

yeah

(within SE)

Oh, within SE sure.

6:05 PM

@NathanMerrill you and phi are the main KOTH people. :P

And [code-trolling], lest we forget.

lol

FordFocus.se

Anyway my point is that this proposal is definitely not aimed at experts

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ahem :P

6:06 PM

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ in chat. We're a lot more visible, but there are lots of other users that post KoTH challenges

okay

@Geobits they seem to post mainly KOTHs.

seem though, idk if accurate.

I need to post another soon. I'm second on both the asker and answerer lists :(

lol

codegolf.stackexchange.com/tags/king-of-the-hill/topusers scroll to the bottom

how the hell am I in the all time top users in code-golf

I don't even answer that much

6:07 PM

I'm #3 asker

@Fatalize ;_; im last

@Fatalize It looks like you're in the all-time list for asking, not in the answerer list.

oooh, is there an overall asking list?

rofl

wait

I think it displays your name as last even if you're not in it

6:09 PM

@NathanMerrill Not broken down by tag? I don't think so, except through data explorer.

which is stupid

@Fatalize Oh, right. Yes, it does that.

I got it when @Downgoat said he was last when I'm also last

in fact we both suck

roflmho

Mego is actually last on code-golf

6:10 PM

For asking. Lynn for answering.

@NathanMerrill bad pun... :P

Does any smart person want to look over this question, so I don't look like an idiot because I confused my terminology?

oooh. @Martin has posted exactly 99 code-golf questions

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

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Parse a Formal Grammar Given a context-free grammar, and a string, parse the string using the formal grammar and output the matches for the non-terminals. Examples First line is string, following lines are grammar, last line is output, examples are separated by --- 123 n -> any of 0 1 2...

Damn, I need an 80+ koth to take over Rainbolt's spot :/

6:11 PM

@Downgoat -15

@Optimizer y u do dis ;_;

its on your forehead

@Optimizer no it's not

oh, btw, I have good news from SE team. We are getting our own awesome site design in November. Its a long wait, but it will be worth it.

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@Optimizer we already have a beautiful site design

6:14 PM

@Optimizer Oh, you just heard? I posted that a while back. You must not have been in here.

goats are not beautiful :/

@Geobits link or it didn't happen

D:

@Optimizer s/goats/llamas/

I did not say that I have a beautiful design

@Optimizer Sure, give me a few minutes. On mobile.

6:15 PM

@Optimizer i was tslking about the ppcg site not me

@Optimizer I thought that we were still set to graduate in a couple of months

your design has goats in place of vote buttons

August 8th, if I remember

@NathanMerrill we have already graduated :/

@Optimizer only id you enable thay optio

6:17 PM

having that option itself is not beautiful

I don't see why anyone would replace beautiful downvote icons with goats.

trophies for badges? seriously? how much more of a cliche it can be?

@Geobits ill replace them with geobits and antigeobitses, how about that?

Or just wait til November.

@Optimizer as cliche as llamas being smart :P

6:18 PM

that is not a cliche

its not even a thing

^ true

those are just lame goat facts

@Optimizer i know

Here ya go, Optimizer:

40 more answers, and the sandbox will hit 1000!

6:19 PM

Apr 21 at 17:29, by Geobits

I heard we'll be getting the design in November, though. From a very good source.

Facts about lame goats, or lame facts about goats?

lol does Sandbox get a badge for that?

@Optimizer says the llama...

@TimmyD the first one doesn't exist.

Hello @QPaysTaxes!

6:20 PM

@TimmyD lame "goat facts" about llamas

hjklk

^ that's not a very good way to define a struct

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ 40 more active answers ... there are 2422 total counting deletions

@Geobits not even a single star? I think you have lost our trust after playing the "graduation in November" lie.

@Optimizer Yes, it's a sad state of affairs. Now people won't even believe the truth when it's presented :/

@QPaysTaxes you don't need to free something you never malloc'd or w/e. It will be left there until the OS cleans it afaik

@TimmyD woah

6:23 PM

@Geobits don't worry. I am here to reconfirm.

Good thing, too. I don't want people to be taken by surprise.

@QPaysTaxes: the char array exists as long as thing is in scope

@QPaysTaxes returning a struct returns the whole thing, INCLUDING the char array. So it's a copy

@QPaysTaxes what os thing?

Oh, i missed that

@QPaysTaxes: Yes. a struct is the whole memory making up the struct

(but not things it points to of course, only pointers)

@QPaysTaxes: C or C++ ?

@QPaysTaxes Ok, no smart pointers then. Still, you COULD make it a char* and indeed alloc it, but then you have to track its history and where copies end up to know when to free it. . Or build your program with one of the garbage collector librtaries which makes it easy again

@TonHospel to the rescue!

@BaldBantha i liked the old name better...

Try epicTicTac?

6:30 PM

@QPaysTaxes: Yes, though it's conventional to switch the order of level and name (big things first in general leads to less struct padding and accessing level will need no offset)

Zgarb

@NathanMerrill I'm just hoping it won't die off...

@QPaysTaxes: struct player { int level; char name[50] }

@NathanMerrill <script emokid.js dependencies='none' whywontyoujustleavemealone='true'>

@QPaysTaxes: Probably meaningless here since you don't worry about 50 mostly useles bytes. But generally it makes structures smaller, causing you to use less memory and have more chance of things fitting in cache

@QPaysTaxes: Sure it's a microoptimization and probably premature

Clear code first. optimization never or later if really needed

If padding doesn't matter I usually put importanbt things first. the reader gets tired if he needs to read a huge list of names and starts skipping..

6:51 PM

@Zgarb yeah, I've been posting daily to ensure that it stays to the top of the list

Luis Mendo

@AlexA. Did you see my message? If I didn't explain clearly just let me know!

@QPaysTaxes answered.

there's nothing like refactoring some code, and seeing how much more flexible everything is

Patrick Roberts

Hey would stackoverflow.com/q/37018833/1541563 be a good question to transfer to Code Golf? I'm not getting anywhere on SO with it and it's been bugging me for a week now.

Yeah, but prepare for dissent.

Technically meta says golfing help is on-topic, but some people disagree.

6:58 PM

@PatrickRoberts yes, you could

but try to refactor the question so it works better with our site's scope

Patrick Roberts

summary: Solve this problem in MIPS assembly in as few lines as possible?