The Nineteenth Byte - 2016-04-04 (page 4 of 9)

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4:00 AM

@Geobits hai, i watch

@AlexA. 9.7th graders*

^

^

Actually... all of my friends and I are pretty close to 9.7th graders, haha

Rounds to 10th grade.

4:00 AM

I'm guessing flesch-kincaid

Most of the way through the 9th grade school year

@AlexA. Only 9 if you use the stupid floor function... >.<

@Doorknob Oh, that's right, you're 15. I keep forgetting; thinking you're grown

Careful, if we raise the reading level too much, Doorknob won't be allowed to read it.

El'endia Starman

@ZachGates He has grown. Grown more beautiful, I mean.

4:01 AM

@Maltysen I'm using the one Undo linked here:

118

Q: Our words are too complicated. Let's make them simpler!

TL;DR: Our wording is complex, and hard for people from other languages to read. Let's make it simpler. Seriously, though, at least read my example at the bottom. For a long time, I've noticed a trend: People from certain countries (which I will refer to, collectively, as Elbonia) seem ...

discussion languages rules

(That post is a good read, by the way)

@El'endiaStarman ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)?

@El'endiaStarman #awkward

@El'endiaStarman <3

@AlexA. capital 3

*capitol

4:02 AM

^

@AlexA. Elendia is less than 3?

El'endia = Minibits.

@EasterlyIrk ("capitol" actually isn't correct here, was yolk)

> 'Elendia' < 3
< false

@MyHamDJ Apparently not ^

4:03 AM

irb(main):001:0> "El'endia" < 3
ArgumentError: comparison of String with 3 failed
	from (irb):1:in `<'
	from (irb):1
	from /usr/bin/irb:11:in `<main>'

This is how a sane language does it. :P

yay math bronze

\o/

\o@

@o/

@Maltysen how do you get the first item of an list if it exists?

4:04 AM

@Maltysen congrats!

@KennyLau In what language?

pyth

h

h

@KennyLau h

4:04 AM

whoah

triple ninja'd

@KennyLau what should be returned if it doesn't exist?

idk what you mean by "if it exists"

ninja'd

.xhQ[default value]

[] -> (nothing)

4:05 AM

do you mean like a or?

what is "nothing"?

["hi"] -> "hi"

@Doorknob Baby "don't" hurt me

Don't hurt "me"

@AlexA. No "more"

@AlexA. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) "don't"

4:05 AM

._.

( ._ʖ.)

@KennyLau (but really, what is "nothing"? Pyth doesn't have a "nothing" value)

@AlexA. that is a little disturbing

^

i think i got it thanks @Doorknob @Maltysen @AlexA. @Downgoat

unicode abuse eleven

@KennyLau no thanks for me :(

goat rekt

@KennyLau My pleasure

4:07 AM

@Downgoat No soup for you :P

NO SOUP FOR GOAT CONFIRMADO?!

:'(

No, we don't cater to goats.

unless with human supervision

@Doorknob It should

@Doorknob well technically there is None

4:17 AM

Is there such thing as a loaded statement?

A persuasive statement portrayed as a fact?

you mean like this?: "you stopped beating your wife"

Yeah like

"Hey Joe, I see you've stopped beating your wife."

nomachetejuggling.com/2011/11/11/…

anyone who speaks J here?

@KennyLau I speak ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklnopqrstuvwxyz

4:23 AM

lol

@Downgoat so you speak in all caps?

@Maltysen see update

@Maltysen How to golf this? sm*d/<Q=hZd

what type of input is Q?

I feel like the <Q=hZ is too lengthy

a string

4:26 AM

try using enumerate

s=concat(), m=map(lambda d,sequence), /=#occurences(str,str), <=prefix(str,num)

enumerate?

wait

ah ok

*d/d is the same as @d

s.e@b<Qhk

is this correct? @KennyLau

@??

without the @ they have the same number of characters

Which @?

@ <seq> <num> Index into the sequence. Modular wrapping. A[B % len(A)] in Python.
@ <dict> <any> Index into the dict. A[B] in Python.
@ <col> <col> Intersection. Filter B on presence in A.
@ <num> <num> Root. A ** (1/B) in Python.

4:30 AM

wait aren't you counting the number of occurences of d

and multiplying by d

where d is a single-character string

s.e@<Qhkb

is that right?

which @?

the third one?

yeah

is s.e@b<Qhk right?

/ <str> <str> Count occurrences of B in A.

yes it is

4:32 AM

yeah @b just gets you all ocrruences of b in the string for single char b

what does @ mean at all?

oh ok

for multiple len seqs it does setwise intersecition

in python same as & on sets

thanks :)

Maltysen for taking out two bytes

Why would @"ab""abcaabbc" produce "abaabb"?

wait huge golf

whaaaaaaaaaaat

4:35 AM

down to 6 char

s@VQ._

boom

What the brainfuck?

._ gives sucessive prefixes

on implicit input

@Maltysen ._.

what does @V even mean

@KennyLau then I vectorize intersection on the prefixes

with the input string

and then sum all the intersections

4:37 AM

wtb

its still your algorithm, just shifted around and really short

...

credits to Maltysen for taking off 5 bytes

to understand V trying using +V @KennyLau

like +V[1 2 3 5)[4 7 8 3)

I think I get it, thanks.

Anonymous

5:07 AM

Yay I have a gold badge! Granted, it's the "you need to get a life" badge, but it's still a nice thing!

Congrats!

Getting really close to Electorate too...

@Mego Nice, PPCG has officially take your soul

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RDFOTD

El'endia Starman

@MyHamDJ This seems like a fantastic idea. I'll have to try it sometime.

@Doorknob are you mad of brass? ^^^

5:13 AM

@Dennis RDFOTD?

RabDabFactOfTheDay

Random Doorknob Fact Of The Day

Anonymous

@Downgoat I never had one to begin with

oh okay

@Mego is that because penguins don't have souls?

5:15 AM

@Maltysen I guess the lack of a soul comes with flightlessness

ah true

Anonymous

@Maltysen No it's because I gave it up in exchange for programming power

Anonymous

In hindsight I should've just traded it for money

@Mego you can do that?

you can't make money off of something worthless :P

Entire industries are built on the opposite premise.

2

Anonymous

5:22 AM

Yeah I mean look at ECMA

@Dennis oh like JavaScript

ninja'd

Anonymous

Actually I was referring to the fact that ECMA is a company whose goal is to make money from writing standards

oh

Anonymous

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob That post and the answers. This is one of those times where I'm glad that we have a Q/A format instead of a blog/comment format.

5:25 AM

CheddarTypedLiteral {
  Index: 8,
  _Tokens:
   [ CheddarLiteral { Index: 4, _Tokens: [ 'Test' ] },
     CheddarAnyLiteral {
       Index: 8,
       _Tokens: [ CheddarNumberToken { Index: 8, _Tokens: [ 10, 0, '123' ] } ] } ] }

\o/ I reinvented the wheel!

Anonymous

Only on this site is that a good statement

I should post that on the code reviewer's chat and see what happens

Anonymous

Ooh I'm 5 votes away from getting Electorate

@Downgoat your spaces are weird

Anonymous

I could get a gold badge double whammy

5:27 AM

@Mego if you upvote enough of my answers within the next 10 minutes you will get a free 1000 rep boost :P

</scam>

@Mego if you upvote my answers, my nigerian prince relative will give you 100,000 nigerian reputation

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob: That said, one thing I noted from the answer where they analyzed other pieces of text around Meta is that the average reading level does seem to be roughly around 9. In that sense, the PPCG welcome post is just fine. Also, I put effort into making it clear and to-the-point, which I think will help more than lowering its reading level.

but he needs a little rep to access his SE account first

El'endia Starman

@Maltysen In the form of a bounty, right?

@Maltysen only giv ssn, home adres, credit card info, and all pasword

5:29 AM

@Downgoat aslo scret avocad juic fuormla

pls no, avocad juic furmula is tap secrit.

no wrroy, it olny uesd by nigerian FBI, they aslo vrey tap scert

Anonymous

SSN is not-my-real, home address is "South Pole", credit card # is 1234 5678 9012 3456, all passwords are "penguin"

Anonymous

plz rep soon

@Maltysen y nigerian FBI ned tap secrit avocad fermula

El'endia Starman

5:32 AM

brb tri pswd

@Mego whre avocad juic farmlua?

@Maltysen wil giv, brb

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@Downgoat fur runign avocadOS fur tap sceret jQuery nigerian prince ~~scams~~ halping peaples

Anonymous

@Maltysen I don't know it I swear, I'm just a simple penguin

@Maltysen ok, avocad juic fermula is udner juicr, pls giv reps in thirtee minuit maks

5:35 AM

@Mego ok than here 100,000K nigerian rep = .4 SE rep rounds to 0

@Downgoat ^ i gave to you too, vry gut servce < 5 minuet

@Maltysen ;-;

@Maltysen avocad/10 vry grat servic, pls covnrt 2 zimbabwe rep

en zimbabwe rep it 100 millun

o wow, tank fer hilps

Only this room can go from the Electorate badge to recieving rep from a Nigerian prince's FBI fer tap secrit avocad juic fermula

3

@Downgoat tap secrit

see update

Anonymous

5:42 AM

It actually went Fanatic badge -> ECMA -> Electorate badge -> Nigerian rep scam for avocad juic fermula

@Mego too late to edit

what's the best way to get the largest substring in a string that is in an array?

Is it possible to do this in something better than O(n^2) time?

Anonymous

Alright, I should get Electorate when the badges update next

@Mego congrats on the Electorate badge (when you get it)!

Anonymous

@Downgoat Thanks! (it just showed up)

\o/

Anonymous

5:52 AM

Now I just need the election page to update so my candidate score will go up :P

I haven't voted for #2 and #3 yet... I should decide on that soon

Anonymous

I knew my choices long before the election started

are you one of them?

Anonymous

I don't vote and tell :P

I'm voting for: 1. Martin 2. I don't know 3. I don't know

Anonymous

5:59 AM

Though I certainly wouldn't turn down a vote from you, I'm not going to try to woo you into voting for me :P

@Maltysen

Why does `=N"abcd"XN0\dN` produce the below?
`dbcd`
`abcd`

Hmm, should I vote for a bird with flight or without... :P

cuz you replace the first element of N with "d" and print it, then print the original N again

strings are immutable

whaaaaaaaat

...

just like in Python

6:01 AM

so I have to chop it?

for what?

if I want to replace

no, just assign the value to N again

...

oh ok thanks

or better, use augmented assignment

6:02 AM

oh ok

"=Xd0\dN" ?

yeah I think

All the candidates are so qualified, I don't know which one to pick ;-;

El'endia Starman

Me me me me me! :P (I kid.)

Anonymous

If all of the candidates are well-qualified and good choices, does it really matter who you pick?

El'endia Starman

^ Good way to put it.

6:08 AM

wheeldecide.com

Anonymous

If there is no wrong choice, then any choice is a right choice.

Ok, I got Dennis and Elendia

wheeldecide.com/…

@Dennis Thanks :)

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat I just got Mego, Doorknob, and myself, in that order. :P

Anonymous

Amusingly enough, I got 2 of my 3 choices when I spun it twice

El'endia Starman

6:11 AM

I got only one of my three choices.

Anonymous

However, the third spin was not any of my choices

Anonymous

Maybe after the election I might disclose my votes, but for the time being I don't want my choices to influence anyone else's

El'endia Starman

Same.

Anonymous

I do agree with the goat, though. All of the candidates are good choices.

Anonymous

And I'm happy with the support that I got during the primary

6:15 AM

I keep getting Alex and Mego on the wheel so I guess I'll be voting for them for now

Anonymous

Normally I'd object that the reason you're voting for me is because RNGesus said so but meh

I'd vote for all the candidates because they are all great, so I needed to use the wheel to narrow down my choices

Anonymous

omg he said I'm great keep it cool Yeah they are pretty great nice work

Anonymous

Huh, I missed Calvin withdrawing

El'endia Starman

Did he ever nominate himself?

Anonymous

6:20 AM

Oh wait he never nominated

Anonymous

Why was I thinking that he did?

El'endia Starman

He's a high-profile member of the community.

you did not miss me withdrawing?

nobody wants me as a mod :'(

@Optimizer I'd vote for you as a mod!

(if the RNG lands on you)

i'd vote for the llamaMartin as a mod

6:22 AM

@Downgoat downvote, right? Couldn't expect upvote from a Downgoat

I can upvote, I just can't up_goat_

@Maltysen wat.

up town goat it up

girls hit goats, hallelujah

that came out really weird >_<

Does anyone know what the 3-Pin IC footprint thing is called

@Maltysen .___.

Anonymous

@Downgoat The joke is that, because Optimizer's avatar is wearing a scarf (like Martin), he's the llama version of Martin.

6:26 AM

oh

Optimizer is llama sock of Martin?!?!

@Downgoat But don't you have the userscript?

Hello

@MarsUltor yeah

@zyabin101 hi

@Downgoat Can't you change the userscript to goat mode to upgoat?

oh, yeah, but it keeps getting reset every so often

I don't know why

6:28 AM

The userscript?

yeah, all the userscript's settings

Someone broke it

Anonymous

Oh that reminds me I need to open yet another issue on the github page

vihanb:~/workspace $ node test.js
'!=='

this is the first time I've written JS and it worked on the first try

Anonymous

I read that incorrectly

Anonymous

6:31 AM

"You've written JS before though... Oh wait I'm the fool."

Anonymous

My brain inserted an imaginary comma after the "JS"

Anonymous

My brain tends to automatically add commas where they could go because people on the internet tend to not use commas when they should

Anonymous

"Let's eat grandpa" and such

the worst one I've heard is:

> Let's eat goat

commas people!

El'endia Starman

I'm not sure how much better "Let's eat, goat." is.

6:35 AM

@El'endiaStarman At least it isn't like eating a goat. It's like eating with a goat.

^

Anonymous

I think the latter may be worse

Anonymous

Goats have horrible table manners

@Mego ಠ_ಠ

Anonymous

And they suck at using trampolines

6:37 AM

My table manners are perfectly fine. eats entire plate as a whole

2

@Mego ??

Anonymous

How To: Goat Simulator (...with Russel the Goat)

@Mego the goat simulator goat is the only goat dumber than Chatgoat

Anonymous

@Downgoat No not that goat, I mean Russel

Anonymous

The GoatSim goat is incredibly intelligent. It regularly breaks physics.

Russel?

Anonymous

6:38 AM

Watch the video

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10/10 would trampoline again

Anonymous

Dumb goats aren't trampolining right. They should be getting way more height.

Anonymous

I've seen goats jump on top of buildings from trampolines.

i have seen goats defy gravity and climb up a vertical cliff

Anonymous

@Optimizer I've seen horses do that too, so it's not that special.

6:41 AM

really?

llamas can't do that..

:(

Anonymous

Skyrim - Horse Mountain Climbing Glitch

in real life!

^^ Proof goats are the best artiodactylas

Anonymous

Oh who cares about real life?

Anonymous

Besides, Skyrim and GoatSim are 100% accurate depictions of the real world.

6:44 AM

GoatSim's physics are just about as realistic as Chatgoat's chance of passing the Turing test

Anonymous

It's far more accurate than your typing

._. I cannot argue with that

@Downgoat s/change of passing/score on the/

You can't measure physics in percentages

Anonymous

Things goats are good at: bouncing on trampolines, flying, sacrificing humans for Baphomet, going to space
Things goats are not good at: typing

El'endia Starman

@Mego I was just about to question your use of the word "suck" when it came to using trampolines. Then I got it.

Anonymous

6:47 AM

@MarsUltor He's saying that Chatgoat doesn't have a realistic chance of passing the Turing test.

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman Wait I made a pun?

El'endia Starman

@Mego No, I just got to see a goat using a trampoline awesomely first, then the real-life sucky one. :P

@Mego Oh, right. It's got a fictional chance though

@El'endiaStarman In real-life I am great at trampolining

user image

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman Oh ok. I was afraid I had made a pun without realizing it. I wouldn't want a great pun to be made punintentionally.

Anonymous

6:49 AM

@MarsUltor Its chance is a complex number.

@Downgoat down wards trampolining

g'night, all!

@Mego but complex is the opposite of real, not the opposite of realistic

Anonymous

Huh, interesting math thought: there is a bijection between the real numbers and the complex numbers.

Anonymous

@MarsUltor The reals are a proper subset of the complex numbers.

6:51 AM

-1

Q: website for lowest bidding auction

Create a website to auction things. The lowest unique bidder should be considered as the winner. Your website should contain an admin login and user login.

@Mego TIL goat simulator uses complex numbers often in its physics

Anonymous

@MarsUltor Well of course, complex numbers are everywhere.

@NewMainPosts this level of shamelessness in outsourcing, o_O

Anonymous

@NewMainPosts "make ebay plz" There, golfed the spec more

Should have been code-trolling

6:53 AM

we should write one that has lifetime of universe runtimes just for kicks and watch him get fired when he hands it in to his boss

If that wasn't burninated

Anonymous

@MarsUltor I'm not sure what it should have been, but code-trolling is never the answer.

@Maltysen What do you mean? Just make the logins accept any value :P

Anonymous

@Maltysen O(INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER)

Also, 0/10 no winning criteria

6:54 AM

@MarsUltor ooooh, nice idea! and since we'll golf the code, no one will be able to find what we did

@Maltysen Write it in an esolang

one more close vote

> The lowest unique bidder

huh?

Anonymous

I have Weird Al polka medleys stuck in my head :/

Or WLanguage/Oration

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