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12:08 AM
@ACuriousMind Wrong.
Motl and other enlightened thinkers have managed to prove String Theory.
 
12:25 AM
@guest Einstein's biggest mistake was his hair style.
 
Orly?
 
By far.
Everything else will be forgotten by history.
 
Perhaps.
His^ hair is not going to last much longer.
 
12:50 AM
Haha
 
1:01 AM
@BernardMeurer Man chat history is weird...
 
@NeuroFuzzy FLP has a sexy shoulder apparently.
>Skyrim OST is $16
Where is my .bsa extractor...
Oh god now I want to play Skyrim again
@BernardMeurer why did you do this to meeeeeeee
Wow, I don't remember a lot of these songs...
OH MY GOD iTunes has pokemon OSTs
> Beethovan: Are you guys ready for some symphonies tonight?
Crowd: cheers Yeah!!!
Beethovan: I can't hear you!
 
1:29 AM
I'm home now
 
YEAH!!!
 
@NeuroFuzzy Yep, it is
 
1:58 AM
What do you guys think about this edit?
 
@ZachSaucier I think schrubbles
 
 
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3:29 AM
@BernardMeurer: Good morning:P
 
4:30 AM
@ZachSaucier Too trivial. But to my thinking the question is rotten enough that I'd cast a close vote if I had a non-binding option.
 
4:54 AM
@dmckee please
does my handwriting remind you of a 10 year old girl's
@Danu I'm not a physicist.
 
Yet.
:P
 
 
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6:47 AM
This stuff had been circulating in the internet recently
Correction: circulating on facebook recently
 
7:17 AM
I once tried to model this problem by assuming a portal can be defined as the following mathematical relation:

A pair of portals, A and B is defined to be discs $\mathcal{D}_A$ and $\mathcal{D}_B$ such that for every point in $D_A$ there exists a bijective map to a point in $D_B$. More formally

$$\exists f : \forall x \in \mathcal{D}_A \& \forall y \in \mathcal{D}_B, f(x)=y \& f^{-1}(y)=x$$

Now assuming the mapping has circular symmetry. Then it is easy to show that there exists a fixed point c (the centre of the portals) such that
 
7:30 AM
I will need to wait until I get more better at GR before I can calculate the gravity of this configuration...
 
7:57 AM
@DavidZ
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/27794/is-a-photon-fixed-in-spacetime

When doing some seemly naive minkowski spacetime diagrams (shown in next message), I am wondering whether the perception that the photon is moving is because it is indistinguishable (because a photon's worldline from an event only intersect the time axis of any observer once as shown in the diagram) and thus we cannot tell apart one photon worldine from another emitted from the worldline of the photon source (e.g. a lamp) and interpret that as the same photon being continuously travelling
correction: Math workings in the chat.stasckexchange link attached
 
8:16 AM
I don't see what you're trying to say there
In (classical) relativity, we assume that the worldlines of different photons emitted at different times are distinguishable
 
8:36 AM
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Q: Using Comments as Answers

JenAn answer is placed in the comment box on your question and it would make an answer. As long as you quote it is it OK to use it? See Comments at this question for example.

 
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@DavidZ: Guess what? Big Name of the day: Stephen J. Crothers
 
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The man who has the personal vendetta on black hole; he left his phd just because his supervisors believed in black holes!
 
:-/
Good to know about, I suppose. I can anticipate some arguments coming up....
 
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Though, he is still unregistered ;/
 
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8:48 AM
@David Z: Hope he doesn't turn out to be another Duffield; we can't afford another one ;p
 
Well, we'll just all watch out and make sure things don't get too out of hand, as usual
I'm off to dinner...
 
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@David Z: Time zone! Enjoy your dinner!!
 
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Question on Stephen Crothers: Are Stephen Crothers' claims legitimate?.
 
9:06 AM
Guys
If you answer your own question on SE
Is it acceptable to say "Thanks for nothing jerks"
 
9:22 AM
wassupo
 
@ACuriousMind Please remind me to look at Bohr's biography if I'm online tonight ;) @0celo7 too
 
 
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12:10 PM
@Secret "calculate the gravity" of this situation is a pretty massive task and fails more often than not
@Danu Why would I do that?
 
12:22 PM
Howdy
 
guy on internet said his caltech acceptance email from a week earlier was in his spam folder >.>
 
Damn Caltech, always selling me viagra
 
12:44 PM
My university email put scholarship info from my own university into the spam
 
: 27360392 Ok, didn't aware of that. I'll tidy up my questions again with this new piece of knowledge
 
1:03 PM
(~4 hours later) I guess one of my confusion is the following extreme example of a doppler effect:

suppose there's another observer starts -5 ls before the origin of this diagram and there is a massless photon source (that was placed there at the vertex of that triangle of cones in the diagram) heading towards the observer (i.e. the t axis).

For every 1 ls, the source emits a photon.

From the diagram it is clear that 6 ls later at the coordinates (t,x)=(1.0) the observer will see the arrival of the light signals
Trying to investigate this mathematically in the Relativistic Doppler shift formula result in a diverging result because the denominator became zero. Attempt to estimate what happen in this situation by taking the limit as $v_{source} \rightarrow c$ suggest the blue shift will became more and more pronounced.

What would the observer see at the red dotted event?
 
No new wormhole paper since 2013
Odd
 
1:21 PM
It isn't odd. Not when you understand why wormholes are woo!
@Danu : your comments are abusive.
@Danu : And this is dishonest.
@user36790 : WTF is this? Have you been calling me insane?
 
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@JohnDuffield: It's my opinion on your allegation on kyle's comment there at the meta;
 
@Ropstah : yes, you can change the wavelength of a single Photon, via Compton scattering.
 
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@JohnDuffield: Nothing more than that.
 
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And sorry for if it sounded harsh.
 
1:32 PM
@user36790 : KK is forever closing down good questions, and hardly ever answers any. That's a fact. Don't you go calling me insane. I'm not.
 
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@JohnDuffield: I don't want to argue; the question kk was talking about was really not that good like the way you are saying....
 
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And sorry again; bury the hatchet. The comment has been removed. No more about that.
 
@JohnDuffield Why are they woo?
 
Because they permit time travel, and time travel is woo. Because time is a measure of motion through space, not something you can move through.
 
You don't understand the difference between space and spacetime, sadly.
 
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1:38 PM
@0celo7: When would ACM come?
 
@user36790 Huh?
I don't keep track of @A uh @A
 
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here? I'm not seeing him...
 
Holy fuck where is his name in the @
Am I the only person who can't ping him?
 
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@ACuriousMind ...
 
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@0celo7:^
 
1:40 PM
 
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okay....weird!!
 
To lighten the mood, have a cat + dog pic
 
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It's yours???
 
My parents
Used to be mine
 
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1:42 PM
wtf
Now it works!
I have proof that it didn't work!
 
@0celo7: I do understand the difference between space and spacetime. You don't, as we can see from your question here. See Baez: "Note: not the curvature of space, but of spacetime. The distinction is crucial."
 
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@0celo7: The argument begins....
 
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Check my dog:
 
@user36790 I just wanted to get him riled up. I won't argue with insanity.
I do love Chrome tabs
~57 tabs
 
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1:47 PM
hey a doggy
good dog
 
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Want to know his name?
 
NO
(yes)
 
No, wtf is wrong with you
 
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@0celo7: Huh?
 
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@Slereah: MAFIA.
 
1:50 PM
Oh.
I am disappointed.
 
^^^
 
It is not a good dog name
 
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@0celo7: ;/
 
Spuds McKenzie is much better
No mafia here
No goons, no droppers, no grifters, no thugs
No dips, no clippers, no chippies, no lugs
No button-men packing gats loaded with slugs
 
Ted E Bear
Ha
@ACuriousMind An undergrad in my lab was complaining about having to type physics homework in Word, I pointed him to TeX.
Let's see if he accepts the superiority.
 
1:59 PM
So, who wants to talk physics? Instead of doggies.
 
What's the gauge theory of the falling dog?
@JohnDuffield Does EM geometry mean light waves curve in curved spacetime?
 
@0celo7 If he didn't like Word and didn't know Tex, what was he proposing to type in?
 
@Mast Word.
 
Sounded like he had a better alternative of his own.
 
No, he was suffering with Word.
 
2:06 PM
Everybody suffers with Word.
Humanity dies a little every time Word is booted.
 
Why does everyone use it, then?
 
Probably lacking a clue better alternatives exist. And for those who simply want to type something simple and add pictures.
 
Word works fine for my double spaced 1'' margin TNR papers.
But I'll use TeX for anything that needs equations.
 
@0celo7 : no. Curved spacetime is an abstract thing. It's like Ben Crowell said: Objects don't move through spacetime. Objects move through space. Light waves curve when they move through inhomogeneous space, which is modelled as curved spacetime. For an analogy imagine an ocean wave near an estuary. There's a salinity gradient, the sea is inhomogeneous, so the path of the wave is curved.
For EM geometry, think about the surface of the sea where the wave is. It is curved.
 
@JohnDuffield Please put this in equations, I'm pictorially challenged.
 
2:14 PM
No.
 
So you're just waving your hands?
A nice picture does not constitute proof or explain anything.
So, as usual, you come up short.
 
No. I'm explaining curved spacetime to you.
 
No you're not.
You're making an analogy that you have no way of verifying.
How am I supposed to know that this analogy is accurate at all?
 
@0celo7 Because you want to help me
 
Because you can read Einstein describing a gravitational field as space that's neither homogeneous nor isotropic.
 
2:17 PM
Ah, but I've shown that he was wrong.
And that does not support your ocean analogy at all.
 
@Danu Uh, okay
 
Especially because he's not using any mathematics either :)
@Danu What makes you think I do?
 
I'm telling you
 
@0celo7 : No, you haven't shown that Einstein was wrong.
 
@ACuriousMind Thanks
How about we make a separate room for discussions on Einstein?
 
2:19 PM
@JohnDuffield Of course I have. Didn't you read my answer on the derivation of FLRW?
 
I think a room in the HSM chat would be perfectly suited
Want me to make one?
 
Nope.
 
Everybody can make a room.
 
@Danu You have no power over me!
 
@0celo7 You really have trouble remembering he's a mod, eh?
 
2:23 PM
Hmm?
lel
 
That was one of the strangest edits I have ever seen
And you know that mods can see deleted messages, right?
 
@ACuriousMind Yeah, me too
 
@ACuriousMind He's the one who edited it, dummy.
 
Me?
Pffft
 
2:24 PM
Now why would I do that?
 
Because you like to abuse power?
 
:D
The sad truth
My topology exam went pretty well
 
@0celo7 : yes, I read your answer. It was circular, and wrong. Your answer said the proof closely follows the one in Wald. Which suggests that that's wrong too.
 
@JohnDuffield What was circular about it?
 
@0celo7 You have had this exact same conversation before.
 
2:27 PM
@ACuriousMind I need help. I have an equation $\rho_1D+\rho_2(H-D)-\rho_3H=0$ and need to solve for $D/H$. I can't PhD level algebra please help!
 
@Danu Nice (although I read "proctology" for a moment there, dunno what's wrong with me)
 
@ACuriousMind It's so... unfruitful
 
@ACuriousMind Really?
 
@0celo7 ::shrugs::
 
@ACuriousMind Close enough!
 
2:28 PM
Please link, I don't remember anything coming out of it.
@ACuriousMind D:
 
You started by saying a spacetime is said to be spatially homogeneous. You went wrong from the off because... you don't know the difference between space and spacetime.
 
What
 
@0celo7 Yes. The point is that one of you doesn't understand what homogenity/isotropy of spacetime means.
 
A spacetime has spatial slices which are homogenous
 
(Of course, you both disagree on who it is)
 
2:29 PM
Therefore it is spatially homogeneous
@JohnDuffield I don't see what's so hard about this
@ACuriousMind Well, which one is correct?
 
@0celo7 Not going to play your game.
 
@ACuriousMind What game?
 
Guys, come on. All the points being made have been made a hundred times before (even this one!).
Can you just agree to disagree and drop it?
 
@Danu : No.
 
@0celo7 And...I've told you before that that is not meant to condone such behaviour, but to make fun of it.
 
2:31 PM
@ACuriousMind I have no memory of this.
 
I guess your memory really is crap.
 
I guess I'm just gonna come back later
 
Ok, bye.
 
Jan 20 at 15:05, by ACuriousMind
@0celo7 You do realize that's meant as a humorous exaggeration of a bad trait, yes? :P
 
Hmm, I disagree.
I think it's a reasonable position to hold.
 
2:38 PM
@0celo7 : go and read what Einstein said. A gravitational field is a place where space is neither homogeneous nor isotropic. So if space is homogeneous and isotropic, there is no gravitational field. Then there's no spacetime curvature. That's it. It's that simple. Starting with some abstract spacetime definition of homogeneity leaves you contradicting Einstein and the evidence of say WMAP. Which means you're wrong. Sorry.
 
Hey, I didn't notice you actually got a qualified answer to your EM in curved space question, @0celo7!
 
@ACuriousMind Yeah, I'll give those a read this weekend
Girl is going home for the weekend, I've got time
Or maybe I'll try to crush this Satanic crystal
 
1 hour ago, by Secret
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WTF, I didn't post this?!
 
Danu probably messed with something
 
@0celo7 No edit history on that one
 
2:51 PM
@Secret Perhaps not on purpose, but I did see it showing up.
 
what happened during the past 2 hours when I was having a bath?
looks like someone figure out how to impersonate someone now...
 
Are 2 hour baths common in China?
 
Why would you take any shorter bath? You could just shower, then :P
 
nah, that's just me. I got carried away with doing experiments with water buckets in the shower
 
How is the water not cold after 2 hours
UH
Ok
 
2:55 PM
@Ssecret : somebody impersonated me a couple of months back. I was not best pleased. Nor was I pleased with twhat I considered to be inadequate moderation. Which made me wonder if it was a moderator who did it.
 
http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/III_11.html
Currently on here
 
@ACuriousMind FYI, I managed to solve that algebra equation
 
@0celo7 ::shrugs::
 
What's up with this shrugging
 
@0celo7 ::shrugs::
 
3:02 PM
@ACuriousMind
Now perhaps to me the only mystery is that I am not sure in general how to determine the size of the basis I need to solve some quantum problems

Suppose someone give me a black box. He then shine a light through it. An interference pattern is then projected onto a screen. How can I base on the interference pattern formed determine how many indistinguishable states I need in order to make a complete basis for calculating the probabilities?

(This is really another way to ask the question. How to determine the number of interfering states I need in order to model the problem ex
 
Why am I being trolled
 
@Secret the observer never sees the 5 photons... they're emitted heading away from O and O'
 
@ACuriousMind Mathematically

$$\lvert \psi \rangle = \int_S \lvert a \rangle \langle a \rvert \psi \rangle da$$

How to work out the interval S that I need to integrate if the only data I have is the interference pattern that is experimentally obtained?
 
@Secret Well, you have to determine your Hilbert space first. The $\lvert a \rangle$ have to form a (generalized/rigged) basis of it. I don't know what "interference pattern" you're talking about, I think you have once again some far too complicated situation in mind.
 
@DavidZ So one cannot have any photons that are emitted towards the right at the events marked 1 to 5 as the massless photon source head to the right? (Clarification, the rays are supposed to be light cones produced by the massless photon source at the events 1 to 5)
 
3:13 PM
@yuggib haha algebra prof is going over the homework, he's upset that people don't think 0 is a natural number
 
Morning @user36790
 
@Secret Oh, that's not clear from the diagram. OK, then, let's forget about the left-going photons and look at the right-going photons only.
 
@ACuriousMind Where I can read more about how to determine whether a given problem has more than one Hilbert spaces involved (as in the case for the double slits for the states $|x,D_1\rangle$ and $|x,D_2\rangle$). The Feymann lecture notes does not seemed to cover this except just saying that we need to know what states are indistinguishable thus the probabilities are calculated as $\sum_i |<|>|^2$ or $|\sum_i <|>|^2$
 
All five photons are received by the observer at the same time, coming from the same direction.
 
@ACuriousMind
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/123480/double-slit-experiment-with- two-independent-sources

Or more specifically, where I can read more about what affects the coherance between two states?
@DavidZ So because of that does the observer effectively seeing the entire worldline of the massless photon source from 1 to 5 effectively concentrated at one moment and one spot as seen from his frame, thus the source act as if it has never moved at all?
 
3:23 PM
The observer receives all the information about the photon's history at once. That does not mean it's as if the source had never moved.
 
I see
How does the observer can show experimentally that the photon source has moved other than the fact that it is massless thus it must move at c?
 
In this case, if the only information they have is measurements of the photons received directly from the source itself, they can't.
With other information about the photon source - for example, with the knowledge that it must have existed for at least a certain amount of time prior to being observed - then you can constrain its speed to be $c$. Within some measurement uncertainty, of course.
 
I see, nice
That's a truly bizarre case
 
Is it weird that I've been watching this on repeat for about 1 hour now?
 
3:35 PM
Haha no
I love that video
@0celo7 dude
skype
 
I think he got banned
 
LOL what?
 
And he's offline on skype
Idk
 
What do you mean he got banned?
 
@FenderLesPaul Yes he did, look at his user profile
 
3:36 PM
Banned for two days off the chat
 
Oh only two days
what did he do?
 
@FenderLesPaul Insult JD, what else?
 
ahhh
gotcha
 
3:38 PM
Y'all know we recommend not discussing suspensions
 
Yikes
 
@BernardMeurer another chatter
 
@DavidZ my bad!
@DavidZ also Ashtekar got back to me! He said he's still doing classical GR research!
 
@DavidZ Why's that you recommend that? (I don't mean to be confrontational, just honestly wondering)
 
@BernardMeurer Fair question. There are a few reasons; for one thing, it's kind of like talking about the suspended person behind their back, where they can't respond, which isn't really fair.
 
3:41 PM
They can read though, it's a public area.
 
Another reason is that suspensions are usually done in response to some kind of behavior that sets a bad example, which we'd like to avoid in the future. One of the best ways to do that is to drop the subject - not to forget about it entirely, but just let it slip from the front of people's minds, so to speak.
 
That I can agree with.
 
@Mast yeah, that's true. Doesn't matter.
@FenderLesPaul cool :-) Sounds like you might have an opportunity there
 
I totally agree with the first point, now the second one I disagree, but then again, just opinions. Thanks for clarifying @DavidZ !
 
To clarify, there's no rule saying you can't talk about a suspension or a suspended user. It's just kind of bad etiquette.
 
3:44 PM
@FenderLesPaul @0celo7 is on skype now btw
 
So, has anyone noticed it's Friday?
 
@DavidZ Uhum, I see what you mean?
 
@BernardMeurer gotcha
thanks
 
Although the moderators do hold ourselves to that rule - in other words, we don't discuss specific suspensions in public.
 
No worries @FenderLesPaul
 
3:45 PM
@BernardMeurer Wrong video. Try this.
 
@DavidZ Show us your handwriting
@Mast The cure is badass
I'd like you @Mast, except on your profile it says you use Python 2.7 as opposed to Python 3.5
 
Suppose I got the following (some general) probability distribution of some particle from an experiment and this is all I knew from the experiment
 
@BernardMeurer Hmmm, yes, I used to work at a place where they used Python 2.x for legacy reasons. So that's what I got acquainted with. Never felt the need to switch to Python 3.
 
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/150146/is-decoherence-continuous/150166#150166

@Acuriousmind What is the thinking process, then, to work out the number of hilbert spaces that could possibly be involved?
 
@Mast Come to the dark side
 
3:49 PM
I can review both though, they don't differ much.
 
because one need to know the hilbert space before one can work out the basis set and hence the hamiltonian and the probabilities
 
@FenderLesPaul Are those mongooses?
 
@Mast yeah, since I've switched to Py 3 as my primary language, I don't notice very many differences
 
Thanks @DavidZ I watched this entire "drama" unfold and I would like to thank you for your explanation; but now I have no one to talk to about the Superbowl :(
 
@Mast @DavidZ Parenthesis on prints are a must
I used to hate not using parenthesis
 
3:50 PM
Well yeah, that's one
@guest well, if you're looking for Superbowl conversation, this is probably not the best place :-P
I guess I don't know if there are football fans around, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are not
 
True dat.
 
Superbowl? Sorry, wrong continent.
 
@guest I like football, but the one you play with an actual ball, not an egg-shaped thing
 
@Secret It's no different from figuring out configuration spaces in classical mechanics.
 
I'll be in Finland at the time, probably sleeping
 
3:52 PM
@DavidZ Findland must be badass
I'll be in SF at the time
 
It'll be cold, at least
 
Which reminds me, does anyone here live in either SF or LA?
 
Why?
 
Wondering about how the weather there currently is
Passing by both in a couple of days
 
Oh, I'd just check the NWS
SF isn't hard to tell though, it's always 40-50 F and foggy :-P
 
3:55 PM
Cool, I never know because down here in Brazil the weather forecast is about as trustworthy as just guessing at random
 
Haha, well, it's not perfect, but forecasts in the US are definitely better than random guessing
 
@BernardMeurer perhaps :p
 
I'm not even joking, my guessing is so much better than the forecast
@FenderLesPaul because I ain't never seen a crocodile getting punked by no mongooses
 
@ACuriousMind I see, I guess that's why Feymann said working out the hamitonian for the high energy particles are hard in Ch. 10, because I guess we know little about the possible states they can be (because we still know little about the underlying mechanism, unlike chemical reactions), thus there is few hints on the hilbert space(s) involved
 
@BernardMeurer shieeet
that's savage
 
3:58 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement
Currently reading this, because I want to start messing with the phase of things to cook up an interference pattern (for personal investigation)
 
In my experience, forecasts up to 12 hours or so tend to be very accurate. Between 12 hours and 2 days, they might be off by several degrees, but the general ups and downs of temperature, and the approximate time of precipitation, are fairly trustworthy. If you go beyond 2 days, you can believe the forecast for ~5 days as to whether it's going to rain or not, plus or minus about a day, and the general trend of warmer vs colder will be accurate out to about 7 days.
 
@DavidZ Yesterday the morning news said it'd rain in the afternoon and throughout the night
It hasn't rained ever since
 
haha, that's kind of sad
I mean, I've seen it happen in the US too on occasion, but it's rare to miss by that much
Look at this: that's basically the forecast for San Francisco always.
 
Yeah I had checked and I was like "Woah he got the temp almost exactly, what a savage!"
 
The weather should not affect the game any way.
Maybe the passing game.
 
4:03 PM
I like to look at the digital forecast maps too
 
70ºF is the ultra red? Ha! plebs
we get 90-100 or more very damn day
::cries::
 
Yeah but we have winter :-P
Actually now that I look at it, the upper Midwest is rather warm for this time of year
and the northeast
 
Global warming
 
I can't find if it's going to rain on the Super Bowl?
 
@FenderLesPaul He loves you
 
4:12 PM
They say Saturday is going to be "very cloudy".
 
Hmm, how does letting two particles interacting with each other can produce a composite state that is a sum of tensor products?
is there any more detailed rules or mechanisms that suggest how it can be enforced, or it is still relatively random?
 
I think Vegas is trying to keep the weather forecast a secret so that it doesn't affect the betting.
 
In particular, to have interference, two states have to be coherant. How does these methods ensure the states to be coherant enough to interfere and then entangle?
(have to read this more in detail, but at least entanglement is no longer as mysterieous to me as 2 years ago)
 
@DavidZ your page mentions HEP. th or exp?
found the answer ;)
 
I found the answer too. Looks like no rain on Sunday :)
@ChrisWhite I was very impressed by your involvement in the prison teaching initiative, do you mind me asking if you've done anything recently?
 
vzn
4:31 PM
@guest spking of superbowl & "drama". just read this great retrospective. Boobs, Beyoncé, & Brass Bands: The Evolution of the Super Bowl Halftime Show... makes me proud to be an american :P
remember a very lively chat here last year on superbowl day. :)
 
Thnx :)
 
vzn
spking of weather forecasting, with some tiein to physics/ computational simulation, reminds me, see also
 
@vzn the point spread line has moved too much for my involvement this year ;-)
 
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