The h Bar

Danu

6:08 PM

Handwriting is so 20th century

(don't have any notebook handy, atm)

oh JK, I do

0celo7

Not all of us are smart enough to tikz :(

Danu

How do I easily post pictures from phone-browser?

Imgur app

dun have

Imgur.com

6:13 PM

@Danu Typo in first line (is -> it); also I think there are a few too many parentheses in that section - e.g. "(since $\pi$ is)" could easily just stand there without being bracketed.

Danu

Hah!

Thanks

imgur.com/VfSpRPr

My handwriting is 0/10 :D

(also if there are grammatical errors in the handwritten thing, blame that on the prof---I do copy-editing only for typed notes :P)

ACuriousMind

@Danu I'm beginning to understand why you want to TeX everything ;)

Danu

@ACuriousMind Hehe

It's exactly just readable, but nothing more

ACuriousMind

Also, why lined paper? Have you not been taught that one writes math on square paper? :D

Danu

Squares are for people who are at the level of mathematics where one still writes numbers ;)

0celo7

6:18 PM

I can't get Karos with the correct width in this country.

Danu

Mathematics is text.

0celo7

My analysis notes are text and epsilons.

Danu

($\epsilon$ is a letter too!)

0celo7

Not a real one

ACuriousMind

@Danu I still prefer writing on squares though. It just somehow looks better to me

And if you need to draw something, that definitely looks better on squares

Danu

6:21 PM

I think squares make the paper too crowded.

If I want really nice notes, I take a lot of empty space

I get bigger notebooks and leave white lines between equations and stuff

This time I didn't really bother because I knew I'd type it up immediately after

Bernard Meurer

@Danu Has the handwriting of a true lord

With paralysis that is :p

Danu

:D

There have been many conversations with Duffield in this chat in the past.

They were... Not very fruitful at all.

ACuriousMind

@user36790 That's a bit offensive. Don't call people "insane".

user116211

@ACuriousMind: Sorry! there is no word to describe him.

0celo7

@ACuriousMind Insane people are insane

user116211

6:35 PM

He is a bit Jefimenko.

0celo7

What

I don't get the reference, probably the only person here who doesn't get it.

Danu

But I think JD doesn't come around here (often) anymore. Which is good for the general atmosphere.

Is he still as active on the main site?

Let's just stay nice :P

ACuriousMind

@0celo7 So? Without actual evidence that someone is insane, it is still offensive to call someone that (both to the person being called insane and people who are actually instane)

0celo7

Nice one Danu.

Danu

Thanks

Bernard Meurer

6:37 PM

@0celo7 I would smack you but in Germany we don't hit little girls

0celo7

I don't want him.

Is that not nice either?

Danu

Not really.

ACuriousMind

Guys...don't mess up the star wall

It looked so nice

0celo7

Well now that cat's out of the bag

I guess I'm a girl from now on

Bernard Meurer

Your handwriting gave it away

0celo7

6:38 PM

@BernardMeurer Also, wtf, you're not even German

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 It's all about the dream

Danu

Brazilians $\simeq$ Germans

ACuriousMind

@0celo7 Have you told the girl you're seeing that she's kinda a lesbian yet?

2

Danu

For some reason they all moved :P

@ACuriousMind Wait, what?

0celo7

Something something Nazi, right?

Danu

6:39 PM

Something something something

Bernard Meurer

I have nothing to do with my grandparents

excuse me

ACuriousMind

@Danu If 0celo7 is a girl from now on, that would be the logical implication, no?

Danu

I didn't know he was seeing anyone, period.

0celo7

He doesn't believe anyone would like me.

Danu

Congrats? :D

ACuriousMind

6:40 PM

@Danu Ah, that wasn't about the gender switch at all :D

Danu

Nope

0celo7

Congrats for being normal, thanks I guess...

Bernard Meurer

Did she really switch tho?

Danu

Seeing someone $\neq$ normal by a long stretch in the physics community

0celo7

I think @Danu thinks I'm some cretin

Danu

6:41 PM

LOL

ACuriousMind

"normal"... ::goes to sob in corner::

Danu

^that's what I mean

@ACuriousMind Why do we never hear anything about the romantic component of your life? ;)

Or am I just not around here often enough...

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind is an AI

2

I'm sure of it

user116211

@BernardMeurer: I was about to write it ;/

Bernard Meurer

@user36790 I have kenian typing skills

ACuriousMind

6:43 PM

@Danu Probably because there's not much interesting going on there.

user116211

@ACuriousMind: Accept it. You are an AI.

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer I wish I were, immortality is nice.

Danu

@ACuriousMind Are you passive, or unlucky?

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind exactly what an AI would say

0celo7

Not really when you're alone the whole time :^)

ACuriousMind

6:46 PM

@Danu A bit of both, I guess.

user116211

So, has anyone ever played Zerg Rush?

ACuriousMind

Uh...unless you mean the Starcraft strategy, no

@BernardMeurer Which an AI would have foreseen and said something else

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind You're pushing us to a paradox

AI!

user116211

I discovered it while reading Quora. @0celo7: ve you played it?

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer Aren't AI conventionally destroyed by paradoxes, and would thus seek to avoid them?

user116211

6:49 PM

Just google zerg rush and see what happens. One of the fine tricks to entertain yourself with Google. Try this.

0celo7

Part of my analysis notes from today:

imgur.com/a/QI2uD

Why is the quality so low :/

Oh well, I'm sure you people can still read it

ACuriousMind

@0celo7 Because you wrote it?

(joking!)

Bernard Meurer

@ACuriousMind You tell me AI!

0celo7

@ACuriousMind IMAGE QUALITY

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 pff, sixth grader...

0celo7

6:51 PM

seriously :(

Looks like I forgot to write the second line on an $\mathbb{N}$

GBeau

@0celo7 what book are you using

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer Okay: If I were an AI, would have said something different.

Bernard Meurer

Don't try to deceive me with your AI mind tricks!

ACuriousMind

@BernardMeurer I am not the droid you are looking for

Bernard Meurer

You're not the droid I am looking for

Ok guys move along

0celo7

7:00 PM

@GBeau Abbott

@Danu please rate my handwriting

Danu

Just fine

0celo7

not a 6th grade girl?

Danu

Whatever floats your boat :P

0celo7

I don't want to be a 6th grade girl, I think.

user116211

@0celo7: Your handwriting is ok but not better than that of my dog : P

user116211

7:03 PM

Actually yours is a bit childish, really.

0celo7

It's confirmed, I'm a 10yo girl.

user116211

6th grade? don't think so.... may be less ;/

0celo7

@ACuriousMind And a pedophile, to boot!

Wow that's gonna be an awkward talk we're gonna have about this situation...

@user36790 I don't know if you're a troll or not

@dmckee Do you agree with this assertion? You're the only one here who is actually a teacher.

user116211

@0celo7: Sorry : (

0celo7

@Danu How the hell is that obvious

Danu

7:09 PM

Do what I told Bernhard

And since you love analysis so much

0celo7

I hate analysis with a passion

Danu

You should prove what I told him

about the limit of step functions

0celo7

We haven't done limits of functions yet

Danu

I know I proved it when I studied Reed & Simon as prep for my degree :P

0celo7

Bye, lecture.

RS? I thought you didn't know functional anlysis

FenderLesPaul

7:10 PM

Bai

ACuriousMind

@Danu it's something one typically proves when defining the Lebesgue integral, I think

Danu

I know enough :P

To know that I don't want more

@ACuriousMind Stieltjes integral in my case but yeah

This type'a thing

0celo7

@Danu Remind me to prove it after this semester

I should be able to do some analysis by then.

Danu

I did it without having had any course on analysis

You can do it!

[with some help from math.se!]

0celo7

@Danu Haven't we proved many times that you and ACM are many times more intelligent than me? It's getting annoying that you keep implying otherwise.

Danu

7:16 PM

Neh, you're way ahead of where I was at your age

FenderLesPaul

@0celo7 what about me?

0celo7

@Danu That's irrelevant.

@FenderLesPaul I think you're the smartest one here.

egasp

Maybe tied with ACM.

runs away

7:18 PM

I cry evrytiem

FenderLesPaul

@0celo7 Also what did you want me to ask Zee?

0celo7

@FenderLesPaul Tell him to write me a check for the price of his QFT book, it's garbage.

FenderLesPaul

That's a fair request

0celo7

@Danu It's irrelevant where I am now because I could never get to where you are at your age.

Even given a "head start"

Danu

@0celo7 I'm not so sure of that. How old are you again?

0celo7

7:21 PM

18

Danu

You shouldn't forget that amount of knowledge grows pretty much exponentially with time

Bernard Meurer

I'm turning 18 in a couple of months sigh

0celo7

I'm behind where ACM was at my age.

Let that sink in...

Danu

The older you get the more efficient you study (up to some point... of course)

user116211

ACM must be child prodigy.

0celo7

7:24 PM

No, he just learned an incredible amount in a very short time.

He also knows 3+ languages.

Bernard Meurer

A

I

0celo7

No, he's just a superior human...

user116211

@0celo7: Don't underestimate yourself; you've achieved much more than an avg. 18; in our country at this stage, we just prepare for board and then for JEE for getting admitted for undergrad.... so, you are much, much better.

0celo7

So what, I'm in the top 5 percent? How does that matter when there are millions and millions of people better than me

Bernard Meurer

Blame China

That's my strategy

user116211

7:27 PM

@0celo7: Maybe,...

0celo7

And I'm fairly sure I have some neurological issue.

Maybe due to excessive drinking last summer/first semester/Christmas

user116211

like?

0celo7

Very bad memory loss.

user116211

Most do suffer that.

0celo7

I also read slower than I did in high school and have a harder time understanding math.

user116211

7:29 PM

So, what?

0celo7

So I'm getting dumber and I won't be learning exponentially like @Danu claims

Bernard Meurer

I have a hard time understanding.

user116211

You can't expect everything is high-school!

Danu

You're just realizing how easily you brushed over things that you maybe didn't really really understand, when you were younger :D

That's what happened to me, too, about 2 years ago.

user116211

@0celo7: You are lacking self-belief; that is indeed making you dumber.

0celo7

7:30 PM

How am I supposed to believe in myself when people like ACM exist

Or FLP, Danu or @BernardMeurer

user116211

@0celo7: hmmm.....

user116211

@0celo7: you are really a child ;/

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 I'm the incentive to believe in yourself hahahaha

0celo7

@user36790 Insult me all you want, I don't care anymore

Danu

^lol

Drama queen 0celo7!

Bernard Meurer

7:33 PM

@user36790 His handwriting gave it away right?

Danu

I'm starting to believe this 10-yo girl story

0celo7

It's not drama, it's the truth.

Bernard Meurer

56 mins ago, by Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 I would smack you but in Germany we don't hit little girls

user116211

@0celo7: Never intended to insult; ever! Tried to tell the truth, IMO.

0celo7

@BernardMeurer you're 17 and done way more than I ever will

Danu

7:34 PM

Lolololol

come on

Bernard Meurer

@0celo7 lol

I got robbed once, I have linux on a calculator and I work

Danu

Is this a reality-TV type meltdown?

Bernard Meurer

I'm pretty sure you can achieve that

user116211

@BernardMeurer: 17?

0celo7

@Danu Meltdown?

Bernard Meurer

7:35 PM

@user36790 uhum, why?

0celo7

You think I'm crying?

I'm just stating the way things are.

user116211

@BernardMeurer: No, just....

Bernard Meurer

Yeah, go ahead @user36790?

user116211

@BernardMeurer: By the by :/

Bernard Meurer

What?

Oh, like by the way

(Urban Dictionary @0celo7)

ACuriousMind

7:38 PM

@0celo7 We haven't proved that at all. Unfortunately, I cannot let you talk to first-semester me, otherwise I would so you realize I wasn't breezing through stuff, either

user116211

@BernardMeurer: Just wanted to know. BTW, it's an idiom.

Bernard Meurer

@user36790 SURE YOU DID

(joking)

user116211

@BernardMeurer: Undergrad or high school? Just want to know; by the by :P

Bernard Meurer

Hiatus between those two

Applying to college in the US

waiting for them letters

FenderLesPaul

lettahs

user116211

7:40 PM

@BernardMeurer: Everyone is well ahead of me ;(

Bernard Meurer

How old are you?

user116211

18

Bernard Meurer

Ancient

user116211

huh?

user116211

idiom??

FenderLesPaul

7:41 PM

no literal

Bernard Meurer

Hey there sexy shoulder

user116211

India is different from US ;(

0celo7

@ACuriousMind I still don't see how that's relevant

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer meow

pretend I didn't say that

Bernard Meurer

printed

FenderLesPaul

7:42 PM

damn it

Bernard Meurer

@user36790 Brazil is different from both :p

FenderLesPaul

@BernardMeurer nooo

user116211

@BernardMeurer: Everyone goes to college there after 17 and before 18?

Bernard Meurer

I graduated one year early

Because my grandmother taught me how to write so I jumped one year way back

Usually it's 18-19 you go to college

user116211

@BernardMeurer: I'm pre-historic ;( Fie to our system of education !!

Bernard Meurer

7:45 PM

@user36790 Everyone's education system sucks

user116211

Still in high-school hopefully this year getting passed out :/

FenderLesPaul

Don't pass out

that's dangerous

user116211

nit picking??

Bernard Meurer

hahahaha

0celo7

8:00 PM

@Danu and really the only ones causing drama are you and ACM

FenderLesPaul

@0celo7 dude calm down

no need to cause drama

guest

The real drama is this Sunday pal ;-)

0celo7

@FenderLesPaul I am perfectly calm, I have accepted my fate...

guest

Are you ready for some FOOTBAAAL?!!!

user116211

The more i try to encourage one, the more he (she) goes indulged in depression...hmmm... probably starts rebuking the fate or some sort of luck : /

0celo7

8:08 PM

Are you talking about me?

I'm not depressed.

Although I'm not sure if he or she is correct anymore

guest

There's a fine line between "fate" and "destiny."

user116211

@0celo7: You create your own fate.

user116211

okay, destiny replaced.

0celo7

I don't know what my destiny is

user116211

Can anyone tell me about $\mu$-space? I've come across this in Statistical Mechanics.

user116211

8:11 PM

@0celo7: Astrologer?? If you believe, then go and touch those crystal balls.....

0celo7

@guest ok, tell me

guest

I'm referring to myself @0celo7

user116211

@ACuriousMind: Can you tell me about $\mu$-space? How is it used?

ACuriousMind

I don't think I've heard the term $\mu$-space before

user116211

Hmmm... I googled it but there is no wiki article on it : (

ACuriousMind

8:14 PM

Might it just be a measure space, and $\mu$ is the probability measure?

user116211

It's a 6d phase space.....blah, blah! used to count arrangements for a specific distribution.....entropy.

user116211

It's bookish; but couldn't figure out what actually it is .

Bernard Meurer

Crystal balls? That's what youre up to now @0celo7? Kinky af huh?

guest

Destiny

Destiny or Fate is a predetermined course of events. It may be conceived as a predetermined future, whether in general or of an individual. == Fate == Although often used interchangeably, the words "fate" and "destiny" have distinct connotations. Traditional usage defines fate as a power or agency that predetermines and orders the course of events. Fate defines events as ordered or "inevitable" and unavoidable. It is a concept based on the belief that there is a fixed natural order to the universe, and in some conceptions, the cosmos. Classical and European mythology feature personified "fate...

Bernard Meurer

PRINTED

0celo7

8:19 PM

Damn laggy SE servers

guest

-_-

user116211

@guest: Jaws dropped!!

guest

Enjoy @user36790 :)

Bernard Meurer

Brazilian ping

user116211

@ACuriousMind; Would you mind if I invoke that ergody ghost???

0celo7

8:21 PM

Damn.

user116211

@BernardMeurer: You are the fastest man alive. You are The Flash!!!

0celo7

He does finish quickly

Bernard Meurer

Italics? Is that an insult? :p

guest

Hairy balls?

user116211

@BernardMeurer: No. I thought CAPS are insulting ;/

Bernard Meurer

8:23 PM

@user36790 Caps are just angry. Italics is for when you want to insult

Look

You're so smart

user116211

@ACuriousMind: I would like to revise what, I think, have learnt from your earlier comments; would you want to see that, please?

user116211

@BernardMeurer: Probably you don't know about Barry Allen, that's why:/

Bernard Meurer

@user36790 Just googled. Didn't know him

0celo7

Wow what a noob

user116211

@BernardMeurer: See? I'm always serious. I'm not a troll.

Bernard Meurer

8:26 PM

@0celo7 I don't watch TV

Nor do I like comics

nor cartoons

user116211

@BernardMeurer; Only studies! wow!!

Bernard Meurer

Not really hahaha

I like movies and I listen to classical a lot

0celo7

He's a nerd

user116211

@BernardMeurer: Beatles?? Harrison's Indian fusion??

Bernard Meurer

@user36790 Meh, the beatles are okay. I used to love them as a kid but I grew past it

and with all due respect to your culture I really dislike indian music in general

The zither just sounds bad to my ears :/

but then again, I'm picky af

user116211

8:29 PM

@BernardMeurer: I admire Harrison a lot especially his style of playing the sitar. BTW, I'm a sitar player.

user116211

You can. It's democracy.

Bernard Meurer

I always like to be extra sure before saying I dislike something that I'm doing it politely

some people go crazy

user116211

BTW, which Indian music?

user116211

There are many.

user116211

All???

Bernard Meurer

8:31 PM

My mother has a CD in the car that I really hate some ravi something I don't really recall

Definitely not all

I can only dislike what I have listened to

guest

Ravi Shankar?

Bernard Meurer

I'm not into Harrison's indian fusion either

user116211

@BernardMeurer: You are the most polite one;

Bernard Meurer

@guest YES

that one

@user36790 Thanks man :)

user116211

@BernardMeurer: Shankar's??? He won Grammy!! His style of playing sitar is very different from typical players; moreover, we don't normally play his type of sitar.

Bernard Meurer

8:34 PM

It's not the style that bothers me in particular, it's the very sound of the Sitar that I dislike

and no one impresses me until they win an EGOK (An Emmy, a Grammy, an Oscar, and the Kentucky Derby)

user116211

@BernardMeurer: Hmmm.... okay, that does depend on perspective; don't hate me!

guest

What about the drum beat?

Bernard Meurer

Hahaha I do not, trust me, I admire anyone that plays any instruments

user116211

Phew!!

Bernard Meurer

@guest These are the drums I like

user116211

8:36 PM

@BernardMeurer: What do you do in spare time? You don't see TV; then what?

Bernard Meurer

@user36790 I listen to music (Ravel, Grieg and Rachmaninoff mostly), I program and I teach

Sometimes I read and that's all I do

Oh, and beer

Every Saturday at 10:20 PM

user116211

@BernardMeurer: All noble causes. You are the most gentle man, I've ever seen.

Bernard Meurer

You haven't seen me tho, ha!

Thanks a lot tho, I'm flattered

user116211

@BernardMeurer: Beer? How it tastes! I don't even drink tea, let alone beer in India, at 18!! Dad would slay me!! I'm a veggie : P

Bernard Meurer

@user36790 Listen to this; it's probably my favorite piece, this very part in particular listen to it for about 5 minutes

@user36790 Depends on the beer, some are bitter some are not, they change a lot. I for one like my beer dark and heavy

Mostly German beers, my favorite is the Flensburger

And do you mean veggie as in vegetarian or vegan?

user116211

8:43 PM

@BernardMeurer: Thanks for the link; I would hear; 've bookmaked it. Time for sleep; it's 2:16 AM.

user116211

Veggie and not vegan.

Bernard Meurer

Damn, forgot about the whole timezone thing for a second

I couldn't be a vegetarian, my blood is about 10% Schnitzel

user116211

@BernardMeurer: Yes, time zone!! WTF!!! Irony is that I've to remain without sleep throughout the night to get hold of ACM and others :(

Bernard Meurer

ACM doesn't sleep. Ever

user116211

Nice to talk with you; Good night!! Oops, time zone!! See you tomorrow!!

user116211

8:45 PM

Probably he is ghost.

Bernard Meurer

Goodnight!

user116211

ACM- A ghost who never sleeps.

user116211

Dedicated to @ACuriousMind.

user116211

@ACuriousMind: Please correct me where I mistake:

Bernard Meurer

8:52 PM

Sigh, losing audition on my left ear has really fucked up some musics I used to love

user116211

@ACuriousMind: Ergodic hypothesis must include the term over long time scales; at equilibrium, there would be only one macrostate which has the greatest multiplicity. However, all other microstates would be accessible over the long time scales. However, there would be one macrostate which has the greatest entropy that is the largest no. of microstates at equilibrium.

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