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2:05 PM
@0celo7 what exactly?
 
@ACuriousMind Do you know infinity magic?
 
@BernardMeurer wat
 
Have you ever seen Euler's proof to $\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty = -\frac{1}{12}$?
 
@Jacobadtr : maybe I misunderstood what you were saying. Why don't you ask a proper question about Compton scattering? PS: don't pay any attention to Slereah or 0celo.
 
wot
 
2:16 PM
@BernardMeurer I'm not sure
I'm bad at names, perhaps what I saw was Euler's
 
@ACuriousMind It's the one where you shift the infinite series around I think there's a good video on it somewhere
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That's not a proof :P
 
The proper way to do it is either by analytic continuation or by regularizing the sum. Terry Tao has a blog post about that here
 
Yes, that's what I was going to ask! Can you just shift the infinite series around like that?
The proper way uses Zeta function sorcery
 
2:20 PM
@BernardMeurer Well...you can, but since it is not convergent in the first place, there is no guarantee that shifting around doesn't change its value
(If it even has a "value", since it diverges to infinity)
@BernardMeurer That's "analytic continuation"
 
That was my thinking, all that shifting just looked too magical to be correct
I asked my teacher what the hell that was once (analytic continuation) but got no anwer
 
@BernardMeurer Well...it's basically taking a function (in this case $\zeta(s) = \sum_n \frac{1}{n^s}$) which is only defined for certain values of $s$ ($s\geq 1$ in this case, since the series diverges otherwise) and thinking of it as a function on the complex numbers instead. There are techniques to determine how much you can now "expand" the domain of the function on the complex plane, and it turns out in this case it works for all $s\neq 1$.
 
Hmmm
Sometimes I swear that I feel like mathmaticians are just hacking the game
 
They are
 
That's physicists you're thinking of :P
 
2:30 PM
readies fists
 
@FenderLesPaul You still owe us your handwriting
So does you @ACuriousMind
And you're all hackers
 
@BernardMeurer ah yes
 
Oh, I thought the $\gamma$ was enough of that horror for you :P
 
Was that scanned or do you use one of those write pad things?
 
@BernardMeurer want to see mine?
 
2:33 PM
@BernardMeurer I have a tablet I write on - this way I can't lose my notes
 
Your cursive looks just like mine; unintelligible
 
How's that?
 
@3507 Please
 
@BernardMeurer here
 
2:33 PM
Fuck it's backwards
 
@FenderLesPaul Yeah, that looks strange
 
cries
 
Did you try to summon Cthulhu?
5
 
@FenderLesPaul You must be an angry teacher
 
@ACuriousMind I did :(
I'm just going to take a picture of my notepad :p
@BernardMeurer I'm nooott
 
2:35 PM
What bloody operation is that square symbol?
 
@BernardMeurer d'Alembertian
 
gets ignored
 
Really? A square? You guys are lost souls
@3507 The pic is far too small :p
I was going to comment on it but then @FenderLesPaul tried to summon stuff
 
I think it might be the writing that's too small :P
 
@BernardMeurer the writing is small though.
 
2:38 PM
12 hours ago, by Bernard Meurer
You have the handwriting of a sixth grade girl @0celo7
 
me?
 
You have the writing of a minified sixth grade girl @3507 :p
 
Hi everyone, I have a very specific question which might not make any sense
 
Is it possible to alter the wavelength of a single photon?
 
2:39 PM
@BernardMeurer really? if you zoom in it is not only small but illegibly messy.
 
Ok how's that?
 
@Ropstah No. It's only possible to absorb the photon and re-emit another one with a different wavelength, see, for instance, the Compton effect
 
@FenderLesPaul Is that your shoulder? Did you just invent the handwriting-selfie?
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@BernardMeurer haha yes I'm making that into a thing
that is indeed my shoulder
 
@3507 Is that an A4 piece of paper?
 
2:40 PM
@CuriousMind: ok that makes sense, but what I don't get then, why isn't frequency of light then defined as 'wavelengths per second'?
 
@FenderLesPaul Your i-dots and question mark dots seem...well-nourished
 
@ACuriousMind :3
 
@ACuriousMind From a mathematical viewpoint, the difference between vectors and pseudovectors is their degree in the exterior algebra (i.e. $1$-forms vs. $(n-1)$-forms). Does it also make sense to talk about them in the context of representation theory of $O(n)$?
I mean, $O(n)$ is generated by the same infinitesimal generators as $SO(n)$ plus the discrete generator $\mathbf P$ (parity), so if I choose a representation of $SO(n)$ and a rep of $\mathbf P$, I can construct a rep $\rho$ of $O(n)$. For a trivial $\rho(\mathbf P)=\mathbf 1$, we get a pseudo representation (pseudoscalar, pseudovector, "pseudotensor" whatever) and for $\rho(\mathbf P)=-\mathbf 1$ a "normal" rep (scalar, vector, tensor etc). Does that make any sense?
 
His question marks look like a number 2 taking a dump
 
2:41 PM
@BernardMeurer no it's about somewhere between a5 to a6.
 
@Ropstah Because that doesn't have units of frequency
 
@FenderLesPaul your writing is really bubbly.
 
@3507, wait so it's smaller than A4? Who taught you how to write? WinRAR?
 
@3507 Yeah I've been told that
I try to keep it lively!
 
frequency is a quantity over time right?
 
2:43 PM
@Bass Yes, that makes sense, but it only works that way for odd $n$. For even $n$ the "pseudovectors" are wedges of odd numbers of vectors and behave like vectors under parity
 
@BernardMeurer it's depressing.
I lose marks and stuff because of it.
 
I used to loose marks because teachers said I was teaching on the size of my essays
 
@ACuriousMind: to what extent is a wavelength different than a cycle in the way that it does NOT contain any unit?
 
every character took about twice the space of a normal person's character
 
@ACuriousMind I see, thx.
 
2:45 PM
@Ropstah A wavelength has units of, well, length
 
@ACuriousMind: yes, and a frequency does not have units, other then just a cycle (which could be the same as a length which whill repeat itself right? Just allowing for another definition of frequencies in terms of (an unlimited amount of) lengths)
 
@ACuriousMind If you had a black hole at hand, couldn't you red- or blueshift it?
 
@Ropstah Frequency has units of inverse time - it tells you how often per second something happens.
 
Yes, but light moves, and length tells you which amount of length it travels in that same second
it doesn't happen again at the same place
 
@Bass I can also accelerate very fast and blueshift photon I fly towards. Does that mean I changed their wavelength?
 
2:49 PM
@ACuriousMind: You should have absorbed and re-emitted them if I understand your earlier comment correctly ;)
 
@ACuriousMind I didn't know you could fly
 
@Ropstah I'm not sure what you're going for here. The wavelength is the period length of the wave. The frequency tells you how many wavelengths it moves per second, and thus the relation between them is that wavelength times frequency is the velocity.
 
Sorry for 'interfering' in your other discussion
 
@Bass Hmmm...you might be right that gravitational blue-/redshift is an exception as it doesn't depend on the observer
 
@ACuriousMind do you write on a tablet with a screen or those blank ones?
 
2:53 PM
@ACuriousMind: I'm trying to fix wavelength with a value of 1 (unit wavelength) and infer time from lightspace or something like that
:)
 
@Ropstah We're already defining the meter by the length light travels in a certain time.
You could as well define time by the time light needs for a certain length, but we're better at measuring times than lengths
 
@ACuriousMind: which would require a constant rate of time?
Ah ok, so for measurement time is leading
 
@Ropstah I don't know what "rate of time" means. A rate is tautologically the time derivative, and the time derivative of time is 1.
 
@ACuriousMind Well, photon energy/wavelength is not Lorentz covariant, so it's difficult to even define "change photon wavelength" for all observers. Maybe one can define it by saying "if its energy change's sign is the same for all observers, then it's really a change", and that would be the case with a black hole.. nvm
 
Acetone melted the lab scissors to my hand
 
2:56 PM
@0celo7 are you ok?
 
@0celo7 I once dun goofed and it melt my keyboard
@3507 Acetone only attacks plastics, in particular ABS
 
@3507 Of course
 
And your sense of smell over long periods of time
 
Scissors are fucked
 
@Bass That's what I was thinking, too
 
2:57 PM
They were most likey make of ABS
 
@ACuriousMind: well if time is dependent on an observer it might progress differently?
 
@BernardMeurer chemistry is dumb.
:(
 
@BernardMeurer f u
 
@Ropstah Yes, different observers have differing notions of "second" and "meter", that's why length contraction and time dilation is about.
 
@0celo7 Why?
 
2:58 PM
you called me a girl
 
@ACuriousMind: might those concepts work better with a fixed wavelength?
 
@3507 It's difficult as fuck, and organics is bullshit
 
@Ropstah I don't understand what you mean
 
@0celo7 You called yourself a girl
 
What wavelength do you want to "fix"?
 
2:59 PM
13 hours ago, by Bernard Meurer
You have the handwriting of a sixth grade girl @0celo7
 
of light
 
@BernardMeurer definitely 100%
 
@Ropstah But...light doesn't have one wavelength - different wavelengths are different colors
 
that would mean that the speed of light would need to vary to adjust for calculations
yes, but those colors aren't the light
it's 'new' light
 
@Ropstah Not following you.
 
3:01 PM
@ACuriousMind: light does have one wavelength, it's speed is just different
 
@Ropstah You can't define all light to have the same wavelength but different speed in vacuum because it is obvious that all colors have the same speed in vacuum
 
I'm not postulating that :P, just thinking about it ;)
Why is that obvious?
Or is that the most basic concept which drives physics?
 
@Ropstah Otherwise you would see prism-like effects all over the place, not only in special materials. The way a prism functions is precisely by having different speeds for different colors.
 
@ACuriousMind: a prism is converting photons into slower moving photons?
 
@Ropstah Ah, well, when you're not in vacuum, thinking about light as being made out of photons gets a bit difficult
 
3:04 PM
:)
 
But no, it is not changing their wavelength. It's only changing the speed (and thus their frequency)
The wavelength is independent of the medium
Wait
I always confuse myself about that, I should better look it up
Ah, yes, it is the frequency that remains unchanged, not the wavelength
 
@ACuriousMind but that then means that a prism changes the direction for different wavelengths?
 
I'm not a girl
 
Oct 22 '15 at 1:12, by 0celo7
I'm a hypocrite
 
13 hours ago, by 0celo7
I'm a girl
 
3:10 PM
Thanks @3507
 
@Ropstah Yes, that's how it works. You can understand refraction very well with that if you draw the wavefronts and let them move slower once they enter the prism - if the ray is not incident perpendicularly, then one part of the wavefront will enter the prism first, and since it is moving slower, this will slant the wave towards the side where it entered first
...I'm not sure that made any sense without a picture
 
I think i got it clearly
 
Wow you people are really mean
 
Oct 28 '15 at 23:40, by 0celo7
I wish you people were meaner
 
My crystal is too hard to grind up, going to try the diamond saw.
 
3:13 PM
@0celo7 Why are you grinding up a crystal?
 
*up by hand
@ACuriousMind Simulating a magnetic monopole
I can't do math for shit but I can do manual labor for people who can
 
@0celo7 Oooooh
That's some nice gauge theory right there ;)
 
What
I'm synthesizing a crystal with interesting magnetic properties
Have to grind it up...but it's way too hard
 
A monopole happens when the part of space(time) on which the gauge theory lives is topologically non-trivial
 
Went at it with a razor, the razor started depositing on the crystal
@ACuriousMind I know
This is completely different :P
 
3:17 PM
@0celo7 Did no one tell you what to use to grind it up? oO
Seems a bit strange to me to just let you try things until one works...unless no one has ground this crystal ever before
 
I ground up my other sample with a mortar and pestle
Apparently this one is ridiculously hard
Harder than steel, apparently
The dude who made the first stage must have over pressurized the press
@ACuriousMind this is a monopole in the classical, not QFT, sense
A magnetic charge
 
@0celo7 That makes no difference
 
See where the steel rubbed off
 
The presence of a magnetic charge is also modelled classically like that, but of course you can also just add a magnetic source term to the Maxwell equations and don't care that this destroys the gauge theory
 
@ACuriousMind: I'm not exactly sure where I'm going and if it either makes sense or is essentially the same as something which is already defined.
But what 'happens' to light as it slows down beyond a certain 'threshold' that it disappears (or changes into some other elements)?
At which interaction or speed does it stop to emit a new photon?
 
3:24 PM
@Ropstah I don't understand the question. It's just that the electromagnetic waves in solids are not well-described by imagining a photon moving through them
 
Because EM waves are described in terms of electrons?
 
This gonna be good imgur.com/a/d0lV5
 
@Ropstah Uh, well, the whole solid will behave in a certain fashion, not just the electrons
And I honestly don't know how the exact quantum mechanical description of that works. Maybe you can say there are photons, just like there are phonons? At least it won't be your picture of the light wave being made up out of well-localized photons that just fly in a straight line
 
@ACuriousMind: I'm assuming that photons interact with electrons in a way that electrons are 'pushed/pulled' by photons rushing by, in turn redirecting/slowing down the photons. << does this make sense?
 
@Ropstah The fundamental description here is probably not in terms of photons. You don't insist on thinking about sound waves in terms of phonons, do you?
 
3:30 PM
@ACuriousMind Phonons or GTFO
 
@ACuriousMind, no because the wave is deducted as a result of behavior of multiple particles. However the photon itself has a wave like behavior in it's particle state
 
@Ropstah Classically, if the angle at which the wave (light) enters the medium (prism) is so low that the wavelength would be infinite inside of the medium, it gets reflected instead of entering it. I think that's the threshold you mean. Best example: look at a water surface, you see what's in the water at high angles, but near the horizon, you just see reflections.
 
I was surprised that I couldn't find a duplicate for this question:
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A: Are the relative abundances of different types of energy present in the universe constant throughout history?

DanuShort answer: It has changed over time, drastically. Initially (and by that I mean after the conjectured inflationary epoch, which I will not consider here), radiation dominated all other forms of energy by far. However, as the universe expands---as measured by the increase of the ''scale facto...

 
Yes, I think i'm looking for a reflection property, isn't that defined by the size of the atoms?
 
Did I miss something?
 
3:31 PM
@Ropstah I'm afraid that sentence does not make sense to me
 
A watched diamond saw holder never cools
 
Yeah, close but no cigar
 
I don't think we have an exact duplicate of that
 
@ACuriousMind: "A" photon has a wavelength, a water or iron molecule doesn't
 
3:33 PM
Everything has an associated wavelength
Quantum mechanics, remember?
 
@Danu: But what does that wavelength imply? Frequency or size?
 
@Ropstah They have deBroglie wavelengths. But even if they hadn't, I don'T see what's your point. I asked about phonons because I wanted to make the point that the particle description is not always the best
It is not the case that "photons make up electromagnetic waves" in the sense that the photons are "fundamental" and the wave is somehow emergent. It's that the wave is one way to describe what is happening and "a bunch of photons" is another.
 
@ACuriousMind: Ok so the wave isn't as much a physical concept, it's more a mental construct to define its repetitive nature?
 
3:47 PM
@ACuriousMind Because that is i think where I was trying to go, if I am trying to be ignorant and take the photon as a particle, then it doesn't make sense to 'repeat' or 'copy' it using a wave, but rather define it's size and speed.
 
@ACuriousMind Anyways, I think it's a nice 'n' simple question that could be interesting to a low-level audience, so it's worth answering.
 
4:00 PM
@Danu Didn't say anything against that!
 
@ACuriousMind I felt I should defend myself regardless ;) The answer was just "too easy", haha.
 
@ACuriousMind I need your help
How can one picture the idea that an integral is the opposing operation of differentiation? As in, how can area be the opposite of 'rate of change'?
 
Fundamental theorem of calculus much?
Or do you mean geometrically?
The rate of change of area under the graph is the height of the graph (also rather obvious)
 
@Danu Do you study in Brazil much?
 
@BernardMeurer Never have I ever
@BernardMeurer I didn't mean to offend you. My apologies if I did.
 
4:05 PM
It's alrighty, it wasn't in italic :p
My point was I never learned any of this, so I figure it out by myself most of the time, which generally leads to badly formed ideas that take a long ass time to get corrected
 
Okay. Well in terms of analysis it's the fundamental theorem of calculus
In terms of pictures I just told you
 
I get what you said
it does make sense yeah
 
But thanks for asking, because I never really thought about the pictorial version before ;)
 
It just swirls my brain a bit, the inverse of rate of change being area
It's not intuitive at all
to me at least
 
Try a constant function; then it is obvious
Then do a piecewise linear graph
Then use that the graph of any function is a limit of such graphs
(even of "step-like" functions, IIRC)
 
4:14 PM
@BernardMeurer Think "accumulation" instead of "area".
 
^not very intuitive to me
I'm not sure how to parse your sentence
 
@Danu In the context of his.
Rate of change is not the "inverse" of area.
It's the inverse of "accumulation".
If you get 100 bucks each day, you accumulate 700 bucks in a week.
 
Hmmm
I see what you mean, it does feel more intuitive when thinking like that
 
If your function is "how much money do I have on which day" (accumulation), then you can differentiate it and you get the function "how much money am I getting per day" (rate of change).
If you start with the rate of change, you can integrate it for a specific period (a week) and you get the accumulation.
 
Another thing that confuses me a bit
You can have $\int$ and $\int_{a}^{b}$
The second one I can see that represents the area in the function between points a and b
but what the hell does the first one represent if it has no start or end?
 
4:26 PM
@BernardMeurer Yes, aka indefinite and definite integral. The second one (definite integral) is the one with a specific "period", like, how much do you earn this week.
The first one (indefinite) is just any function that is an "anti-derivative" of the function you start with. $g=\int f$ means basically that $g'=f$.
 
So I can't properly 'picture' an indefinite integral?
 
@BernardMeurer You can, but you have several possibilities. There is more than one function. For example, if $g$ is such a solution, then if you add a constant $C$ like $g+C$ its still a solution
So you have to set something like a start condition, which basically says with what "amount" or "accumultation"you are starting.
 
I recall seeing that you could add a constant to the solution of an integral and it'd work the same. Because $C' = 0$
 
For example, if you get 100 bucks a day, nobody can say how much money you have in a week without knowing how much you have today.
But if you know how much you have today, then you can construct the function.
@BernardMeurer Exactly.
And this constant can be seen like "the amount that's already been there."
 
Ooooooh
 
4:32 PM
Money analogies best analogies hahaha
 
That's to do with how you can move a function around in certain ways and not change it's derivate one bit
 
@Danu In my experience, yep :D
@BernardMeurer Yes. Certain ways meaning "up and down", which is like adding a constant.
 
I connected the points now!
@Bass exactly, because sideways you'd break it
Thanks @Danu and @Bass; you guys are the best
 
Don't thank me :P
I didn't really help
 
The constant function tip was great
 
4:44 PM
@BernardMeurer np
 
@ACuriousMind I may have already asked this, but here goes: Is there a precise meaning for "canonical" in a general categorical setting?
It's close to "unique" in terms of usage in my course, but probably not exactly the same.
 
@Danu Usually, "canonical" maps are those induced by universal properties
But they can also be maps coming from adjuctions...let's say that "canonical" is made more precise in category theory, but the word itself is not formalized, afaik
 
Okay.
 
@Danu If it reassures you, I have always been bothered by the word "canonical". It doesn't actually convey any information about the thing that's described as "canonical".
 
5:02 PM
@ACuriousMind It always feels like I'm missing something!
 
I think the main use of the word is that if it is used consistently for the same map, you can really just say "Take the canonical map" instead of having to define the map.
 
hahaha
standard didn't sound epic enough
 
Can anyone here help me with a basic entropy problem?
Namely, I'm asked what the entropy increase in the universe is if I drop my pen off my desk- but to do that don't I need to find a reversible path?
 
Reversible implies [...] for entropy
 
Reversible implies entropy of a closed loop is zero.
But the pen hasn't completed a full loop, so it will have some change in entropy.
Moreover I understand that heat will be dissipated from the pen as it falls, but the increase in entropy of the surroundings isn't just dQ/T, is it? Because that's only for reversible processes.
@Danu Am I other thinking something?
Oh nevermind, I get it,
 
5:50 PM
@Danu Show us your handwriting
 

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