English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

jokerdino

5:00 PM

@tchrist I forgot all the latin names.

Cerberus

Hello.

Never forget the Latin!

Matt Эллен

Hello

RegDwighт

See, that summons the dog.

jokerdino

@Cerberus Hi. Can I have some steak?

tchrist

And you’ll never guess what the dog was carrying in his mouth.

Mahesh

5:00 PM

@RegDwighт Do you actually have an archive of Robusto's chats? and a bot?

Cerberus

@jokerdino You may have some Latin instead.

user19161

@jokerdino Yes, it is true. Seth and I both look like Justin Bieber.

tchrist

@Mahesh No, he only keeps the dogs.

Cerberus

Quid vis?

jokerdino

@Cerberus I have the whole set of Latin alphabet though. Is that enough?

Matt Эллен

5:01 PM

OMG what have you latin now?

RegDwighт

Mar 27 '11 at 1:29, by RegDwight

Nobody may post any additional Latin sentences until everybody's memorized those already posted.

KitFox

I consider myself very latin now.

Mahesh

then he must be having a dog-bot.

tchrist

@jokerdino Disbelieve.

RegDwighт

@Mahesh everyone has an archive of Robusto's chats. It's called the transcript.

jokerdino

5:01 PM

You don't have to.

tchrist

$ unichars '\p{script=latin}' | wc -l
    1267

RegDwighт

Huhuh, he said WC, huhuh.

tchrist

Collect the whole set.

jokerdino

Only after I am done with the pokeball set.

RegDwighт

Ash sucks.

user19161

5:02 PM

@RegDwighт The map is wrong then.

tchrist

@Mahesh Spouting dog-latin, per his wont.

Cerberus

@jokerdino That will do.

RegDwighт

@JasperLoy the map is never wrong. It is not the cake, after all.

Mahesh

@jokerdino hop on to IRC for a moment will you?

KitFox

The cake isn't wrong.

jokerdino

5:03 PM

@Mahesh yes I am on.

@KitFox But is it a lie?

KitFox

That's secret.

Matt Эллен

it's a pie

RegDwighт

@KitFox see, even the cake is not wrong, and the map isn't even the cake! QED.

user19161

Oh @joker now I know why you always star my lines to Seth, haha.

tchrist

@JasperLoy Attention-queen.

jokerdino

5:04 PM

@JasperLoy What?

KitFox

The cake is a torte.

tchrist

Only if made with ground nuts.

By which I do not mean earth nuts.

RegDwighт

I can't help but note that dino's brothers in arms have silently marooned him.

tchrist

He still looks green to me.

jokerdino

@RegDwighт I like you English folks.

RegDwighт

5:05 PM

I am not English folks.

jokerdino

I wuv you all.

tchrist

Your accent betrays your Surrey origins.

user19161

@kitfox Is that a horse?

KitFox

@JasperLoy No.

jokerdino

Oops. Did that give me away?

user19161

5:07 PM

@KitFox Then what is it in your picture?

KitFox

@JasperLoy It's the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

user19161

@KitFox Ah! Hey you still use the email you sent to me right?

KitFox

@JasperLoy Did I send you my email? I haven't changed it, so yes.

RegDwighт

4

KitFox

Rawr!

RegDwighт

5:08 PM

This is how I picture jokerdino.

user19161

@KitFox Yes, you sent me exactly one when I deleted my ELU account, and I also replied then.

jokerdino

RAWR. Too accurate.

KitFox

@JasperLoy Oh, yes. Yes, I still use that one.

And I would be happy to hear from you.

user19161

@KitFox OK, I will email you again when I feel like sharing some secrets with you!

jokerdino

Do you like a zip bomb @KitFox?

user19161

5:09 PM

See @joker I email many people on SE, not just Seth.

KitFox

I consider myself very a zip bomb.

tchrist

@RegDwighт I really like the yellow feathers.

jokerdino

@JasperLoy ?

user19161

So there is nothing strange about me asking Seth to email me, in case you think I am strange.

jokerdino

@KitFox I can't imagine.

@JasperLoy I think you are strange.

RegDwighт

5:10 PM

@tchrist it believes it can fly.

tchrist

@JasperLoy Try candy.

KitFox

@jokerdino No, you can't.

user19161

@jokerdino Yes, I am strange, but I am not gay, and I am not a paedophile.

jokerdino

@KitFox I can imagine a KitFox though.

Typing on a keyboard.

Mahesh

@jokerdino I've seen you replacing those false teeth. :P

jokerdino

5:11 PM

@JasperLoy Yes. What? IDC

KitFox

Tell me, in as much detail as possible, only the positive things you think about when you think about a KitFox typing on a keyboard.

jokerdino

@Mahesh I have a pair of dipthongs.

@KitFox They are cute. I am done.

tchrist

@jokerdino δίφθογγος

user19161

By the way, what the hell does kitfox mean? Is it a kind of fox?

KitFox

Kit Fox.

tchrist

5:12 PM

Fox kits.

Matt Эллен

It's a fox made from a kit

tchrist

Some assembly required.

Matt Эллен

like a kit car

user19161

I only know that Kit Kat is a chocolate.

tchrist

Swift.

jokerdino

5:13 PM

@tchrist You wasted my 15 seconds. I am disappoint.

MετάEd

Kits, kats, sacks, wives.

RegDwighт

Okay, what the hell is north-american-english?

tchrist

@jokerdino You missed a leter.

MετάEd

@RegDwighт Spanglish.

tchrist

@RegDwighт Canamerican.

jokerdino

5:13 PM

@tchrist Only one?

MετάEd

jinx

RegDwighт

That is the most backwards way of labeling things.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwighт it's a mix of American English and Yorkshire dialect

jokerdino

@MετάEd I believe.

user19161

@jokerdino There can be miracles when you believe.

RegDwighт

5:14 PM

If once in a lifetime a question happens to be about Mexican English, label that one as such. Don't go around labeling everything else as Non-Mexican-English.

tchrist

It’s for English that is distinctly Canadian+American, as opposed to overseas versions.

RegDwighт

0

Q: the crawling of the walls

I can practically feel the presence of disease: the crawling of the walls, the energy and tension— like the nesting of a thousand insects.

tchrist

The Mexican version tiene acento.

Matt Эллен

0_0

RegDwighт

@MattЭллен yeah you're British, you no understand that.

user19161

5:16 PM

Do you guys think this smiley looks wicked? ;-)

KitFox

Where?

jokerdino

What is this weird random gibber gabber we are discussing?

RegDwighт

Gotta run eat soup.

tchrist

@RegDwighт He’s formicating on the formica side-flooring again.

KitFox

Bye.

Matt Эллен

5:16 PM

Yo no entiendo

jokerdino

@RegDwighт corn?

@KitFox Please no!

Matt Эллен

@RegDwighт CU. careful if it's hot. running with liquids can cause spills

user19161

Hey @cornbreadninja麵包忍者 I am black but I am not Professor Black, lol.

Mahesh

@jokerdino we are discussing ELU.

@JasperLoy Nes.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@JasperLoy how is it?

jokerdino

5:17 PM

@Mahesh I got lost. Thank you.

user19161

@Mahesh What is Nes?

tchrist

@MattЭллен My tap is always running with liquids, and it never spills.

KitFox

@JasperLoy No and yes.

jokerdino

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 How do you ninja it?

Mahesh

@JasperLoy It is a blend of No and Yes.

Matt Эллен

5:18 PM

@tchrist or is it that it only spills?!

jokerdino

So, yo is blend of yes and no?

tchrist

@Mahesh Noesy.

user19161

Ah, I have now made some enemies on Math, but that is my secret!

jokerdino

@tchrist Too nosy and noisy.

KitFox

Yo no soy marinero.

jokerdino

5:18 PM

@JasperLoy Thank you for enlightening us.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@KitFox tu soy capitan?

jokerdino

@KitFox Yes, Marina beach is right next here.

user19161

@jokerdino Sorry, I like to speak of random things. That is what chat is for.

Mahesh

@jokerdino absolutely!

tchrist

@KitFox s/nero/cón/

KitFox

5:19 PM

Soy capitán. Soy capitán.

user19161

@jokerdino They call me Captain Obvious and also Non Sequitur.

jokerdino

@JasperLoy That helps.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

rubs cat tummy

Mahesh

cat barks

user19161

So why are you Ubuntu guys here today?

Mahesh

5:20 PM

(Bilingual cat. ) :P

user19161

Did you come here to troll?

KitFox

Yes, they did.

jokerdino

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 How does it feel? I never tried.

@KitFox We do no different than what you do here.

Matt Эллен

they thought they wanted to learn English. It turns out they wanted to learn how to english a ball

jokerdino

Actually, we fit right in.

KitFox

5:21 PM

You came to troll. You got schooled.

Mahesh

@JasperLoy we no troll.

jokerdino

No, we don't do no trolling.

KitFox

You can pretend otherwise, and I'll play along so you save face.

user19161

@Mahesh Yes, you monkey, no troll.

tchrist

@MattЭллен I think you have subject and object swapped there.

Mahesh

5:22 PM

Double negatives. They are not that annoying till you encounter someone who can not help using them.

KitFox

A ball wanted to learn how to english them?

jokerdino

@KitFox It's alright. I know what I am not doing here.

I can tell.

then Y U NO TELL?

I can't answer that.

5:24 PM

Guess he wasn't around when we last had a rendezvous.

tchrist

entiende

KitFox

Frig. These functions all have a ton of dependencies.

tchrist

@KitFox No, they wanted to learn how to ball an English. Or maybe bowl one.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox the only answer is to re-write the standard libraries

KitFox

@tchrist Yeah. But it's good that you missed the joke.

Mahesh

5:25 PM

@jokerdino variable he undeclared. Use let variable = value in statement

tchrist

@MattЭллен Monkey patching works.

KitFox

@MattЭллен Can't I just use jQuery?

tchrist

@KitFox Get a room.

jokerdino

@Mahesh let there be foxes.

is that how it works?

user19161

And there were foxes.

KitFox

5:26 PM

There is only one foxen kith and that is me.

Matt Эллен

And they were good

Mahesh

let there be trolls..

wait, ELU exists already.

user19161

And that was the first day.

user19161

Let there be Justin Bieber!

jokerdino

@MattЭллен the meat, isn't it?

@JasperLoy No thanks.

Matt Эллен

5:27 PM

EL&U trolls noöne. we get trolled, but only because people mistake us for a place for trolls

user19161

@jokerdino Baby, baby, baby, oh!

jokerdino

@MattЭллен I thought it was a good place to discuss Game of Thrones.

Matt Эллен

@jokerdino no, no, the existence

tchrist

@KitFox vulpine kin

Mahesh

@MattЭллен ELU is the reason 4chan exists.

user19161

5:28 PM

Existance is a common misspelling of existence.

jokerdino

@MattЭллен But what about the meat?

KitFox

I don't think I am the right person to help you with the meat.

Matt Эллен

@Mahesh I see. I think 4chan might have something to say about that

jokerdino

@JasperLoy Language is about communication, not pedantry.

Matt Эллен

@jokerdino you are the meat

jokerdino

5:28 PM

@KitFox It could be the start.

user19161

@jokerdino You need meat to have the pudding.

tchrist

More revolting pedants.

KitFox

You don't say.

jokerdino

@MattЭллен Am I?

user19161

@jokerdino Pedantry is about communicating clearly, not unclearly.

KitFox

5:29 PM

That depends.

jokerdino

@tchrist I thought it was the peasants who revolt.

Matt Эллен

pedants, are we? I thought this was a communal anarcho collective

tchrist

@jokerdino Classist!

KitFox

Maybe you could attempt to revolt.

user19161

Come to my place and see the exponential growth of my log, lol.

jokerdino

5:29 PM

@tchrist Just a wannabe historian.

user19161

That's what a math bro said today, lol.

Matt Эллен

lol

KitFox

Hey, would you like to be checking the pedants?

jokerdino

I would be wary of that bro.

tchrist

@JasperLoy Liar.

Mahesh

5:30 PM

lol is a palindrome! OMG!

tchrist

Seducer.

KitFox

More or less a palindrome, yes.

Matt Эллен

palindrome is onomatopoeic

jokerdino

Any one letter word is a palindrome.

user19161

@jokerdino There are some people who call you bro and then stab you in the back, be wary.

Mahesh

5:31 PM

@MattЭллен How is that so?

KitFox

Not everything is onomatopoeic.

user19161

@Mahesh Good observation.

jokerdino

@JasperLoy Thank you.

Matt Эллен

@Mahesh it sounds like what it represents

Mahesh

@MattЭллен Not to me.

user19161

5:32 PM

@jokerdino But I would be the last person to hurt you.

jokerdino

@Mahesh depends on how he pronounces it.

tchrist

Do good? I? No! Evil anon I deliver. I maim nine more hero-men in Saginaw, sanitary sword a-tuck, Carol, I ? lo! ? rack, cut a drowsy rat in Aswan. I gas nine more hero-men in Miami. Reviled, I (Nona) live on. I do, O God!

Matt Эллен

when has palindrome not sounded like palindrome?

jokerdino

@MattЭллен when you pronounce it incorrectly.

KitFox

The answer is pretty complicated.

user19161

5:32 PM

My favourite palindrome is nurses run.

jokerdino

That's not how palindrome works.

Matt Эллен

I've never seen nurses run backwards

user19161

Palindrome can be a sentence dude.

user19161

It need not be a word.

Mahesh

@jokerdino It is, atleast for your first programming assignment.

jokerdino

5:33 PM

@MattЭллен Might want to check with Robusto.

tchrist

Er, go on, trap Steven in, I say. Me oh my! Nor can an "air" bee sew. We see, Brian. An acronym? Hoe my asinine vet's part? No, ogre!

Matt Эллен

:D

user19161

@tchrist WTF!

tchrist

Embargos are macabre. Sad Nell, listen O! not to no nets ? I'll lend a Serb a camera so grab me!

jokerdino

@Mahesh I skip mine.

@tchrist brb I got a Serb friend.

Mahesh

5:34 PM

@tchrist Totally deserves to get into ELU's description.

user19161

I am very proud that I can spell the longest word without looking it up.

jokerdino

@JasperLoy cheers. I used to too.

KitFox

@Mahesh No, no it doesn't.

tchrist

No witness ? a fool. A nasal aria's time emits air. Alas, an aloof assent: I won.

Mahesh

@JasperLoy prove it.

jokerdino

5:35 PM

@Mahesh as silly as it can get.

Matt Эллен

I am very proud that I can use a dictionary.

user19161

pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

tchrist

On a clover, if alive, erupts a vast, pure evil; a fire volcano.

Mahesh

@KitFox I dont have an evil diamond yet, so yes, its your call. :P

jokerdino

Hey, can I time out this dude?

user19161

5:35 PM

floccinaucinihilipilification

Mahesh

time out who and time out how?

@JasperLoy I knew this. not the other one.

user19161

Those two are the longest technical and non-technical words respectively.

tchrist

@JasperLoy Doc, note I dissent: a fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod.

jokerdino

@Mahesh btw, omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/…. Spouting incorrect info :(

user19161

The first is a lung disease contracted by miners.

user19161

5:36 PM

The second is the observation that the act of estimation is worthless.

jokerdino

fossfreedom added a comment. Check it.

user19161

@tchrist Did you make them up yourself?

Mahesh

@jokerdino WTF!!

tchrist

I saw desserts; I'd no lemons, alas no melon. Distressed was I.

Mahesh

we told them so long ago. Its the worst way to do that.

user19161

5:37 PM

There are some other long words, like interdenominationalistically.

jokerdino

@tchrist You were distressed? My condolences.

tchrist

Desserts I desire not, so long no lost one rise distressed.

user19161

Also, my favourite sentence in Great Expectations is this. The effort of resolution necessary to the achievement of this purpose, I found to be quite awful.

jokerdino

@Mahesh yes. And Joey is a bit too rude-ish about it.

user19161

Hey @joker did you know that it is "just deserts" and not "just desserts"?

tchrist

5:39 PM

@jokerdino Now, Ned, I am a maiden nun; Ned, I am a maiden won.

jokerdino

@JasperLoy just?

tchrist

Ger@t, I saw Ron avoid a radio-van ? or was it @Reg?

jokerdino

@tchrist Do you still maiden?

Sudhir

Hi @MattЭллен

KitFox

0

Q: What is a “big-ender pair”?

In the sci.math newsgroup ca. 23 Mar 2013, in thread Subject: Re: math formulae?, I saw the following: "Is the tournment liken to a bridge tournment? The problem is vague. As there are 100 diffenent bigender pairs, 10 rounds would be inadequate." I can’t compare euchre to bridge, ...

meaning punctuation computing paraprosdokian

Sudhir

5:41 PM

How do you do?

Matt Эллен

I'm fine thanks. How are you?

KitFox

Hey @tchrist, can you get the > to render without the code font?

tchrist

@KitFox Of course.

KitFox

Thanks.

Sudhir

I'm fine.

user19161

5:42 PM

OK, no need to panic that @sudhir is here. Sudhir, just remember not to ping the people who don't like to talk to you, and don't keep asking basic questions here, that's all!

KitFox

Who's panicking?

jokerdino

I am.

I am shivering and cowering with fear.

tchrist

@KitFox Like that.

user19161

Well, I figured some people don't like to talk that much to Sudhir.

Sudhir

@JasperLoy: That person don't have problem with me.

user19161

5:43 PM

@Sudhir Really?

Sudhir

Yeah.

He is a very nice guy.

KitFox

@tchrist Oh, that was easy. I added the extras. Thank you.

user19161

@Sudhir Oh you mean Matt.

Sudhir

Yeah.

tchrist

@KitFox Only those who get all pan-icky about pansexuals.

KitFox

5:44 PM

@jokerdino hands paper bag

user19161

@Sudhir OK, just don't ping tchrist and simchona then, lol.

jokerdino

@KitFox That is so kind of you.

Sudhir

I already know. No need to tell.

KitFox

I consider myself very kind of me.

Mahesh

@jokerdino I should have probably finished that patch.

jokerdino

5:45 PM

blows his nose

tchrist

@jokerdino A nut nosed itself; it stifles tides on tuna.

jokerdino

@Mahesh we wish.

Mahesh

:(

user19161

@Sudhir Yes, just a reminder. I spoke up for you earlier today, in your defence though, lol.

jokerdino

@tchrist Not a fan of tuna.

Mahesh

5:46 PM

@jokerdino YAY!!! new idea!

tchrist

@jokerdino No cab, no tuna nut on bacon?

Sudhir

ok. thanks for the support.

jokerdino

@Mahesh Yay.

@tchrist I don't eat bacon either. I am a weirdo like that.

Mahesh

@jokerdino actually, nope. missing feature in UTT.

over to IRC

user19161

@Sudhir Anyway, it is best to ask on ELL main site if you have many basic questions. That way, you get good answers quickly.

jokerdino

5:46 PM

@Mahesh could be a quicklist? :)

Mahesh

we have a quicklist entry.

Sudhir

I have already started asking there.

Mahesh

but it doesn't do anything right now.

tchrist

@Mahesh Keep it clean.

jokerdino

@Mahesh I might have missed it.

user19161

5:47 PM

@Sudhir Very good, I hope you make rapid progress.

jokerdino

@Mahesh What's the point? lol

Mahesh

@tchrist ?

Sudhir

Also I've gained points there.

user19161

@Sudhir Oh by the way I am the same person who told you I am not of this world last year.

Sudhir

Very fast.

user19161

5:48 PM

@Sudhir Very good.

Mahesh

@jokerdino that was planned for the future. :P Now I'll just put the unity reset script into it.

jokerdino

not a terribly bad idea. :)

Sudhir

@JasperLoy: I think you'd closed your account.

user19161

@Sudhir I have deleted all my SE accounts except Math.

Mahesh

well, I like to reuse the code I wrote. and it actually works, and is better.

tchrist

5:49 PM

Eternal lies.

jokerdino

Yes. In many ways.

@tchrist Do you want to guide me there?

Sudhir

I guess I've asked that from which country you belong?

Am I right?

Mahesh

@jokerdino I thought you were an extert at that already.

jokerdino

The one where you haven't set your foot on.

user19161

@Sudhir Yes, and that is my secret...

tchrist

5:50 PM

@jokerdino To R’lyeh?

jokerdino

@Mahesh I might not have known.

Sudhir

So you didn't told me.

jokerdino

@tchrist That would be fine too.

user19161

@Sudhir Yes, I did not tell you, because it is a secret.

Sudhir

Okay as you wish.

tchrist

5:51 PM

T. Eliot, top bard, notes putrid tang emanating, is sad. I'd assign it a name: gnat dirt upset on drab pot-toilet.

jokerdino

Is T Eliot still alive?

Chinua Achebe passed away not so long ago.

user19161

Is jokerdino a dinosaur?

tchrist

Bird brain.

jokerdino

Better than the one gold fish has.

Sudhir

@MattЭллен: Don't you reply "how do you do" with "how do you do"?

user19161

5:53 PM

Fishes have no eyelids.

Sudhir

My English teacher had told me.

jokerdino

They do have nictitating membrane.

tchrist

@JasperLoy Fishes?

KitFox

They don't need them.

user19161

@Sudhir Some people say how do you do is a greeting and not a question.

tchrist

5:54 PM

What’s is it gots in its fisheses’ pocketses?

user19161

@tchrist The plural of fish can be fish or fishes.

jokerdino

The pedant might know it better.

tchrist

@JasperLoy That doesn’t mean they are interchangeable. And you just used it wrong.

Sudhir

@JasperLoy:you're native speaker of English?

user19161

@tchrist Well, if I had used fish instead the sentence might have a slightly different meaning, but both sentences have correct meanings.

KitFox

5:55 PM

@Sudhir He's a native speaker of an English.

user19161

@Sudhir I would think so, though some others might think otherwise.

Matt Эллен

@Sudhir I normally answer with "Fine, thanks. How are you?"

jokerdino

One of the various variations of English.

Sudhir

Oh! That's great!

jokerdino

@MattЭллен I am fine too. How do you do?

user19161

5:55 PM

@MattЭллен I normally say nothing, just like I don't shake hands.

Matt Эллен

@jokerdino how do I do what? Are you a spy? You want to steal my secrets. I can tell

user19161

@Sudhir But many people from where I am don't speak English that well.

jokerdino

@MattЭллен Sssh. Don't tell it too loud.

tchrist

@MattЭллен Nurse, I spy gypsies, run!

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy do you shake your head?

Sudhir

5:57 PM

16

Q: Do you really answer “How do you do?” with “How do you do?”

I'm a non native speaker of English. In our learning we were told that when we say hello to someone we use equivalent phrase: How do you do? In response we do say: How do you do? But I'm unsure about the usage in the USA or UK. I haven't heard from them. I'm an Indian. Is this the c...