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David Wallace

21:00

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 OK, like I said, that's not how I read it.

@DavidWallace You are being way too nice to the rapist here. "Forced to spend the rest of his life married to someone he dislikes"? Who says he dislikes her? Anyway he is free to marry other women too. Lots of men in the bible had multiple wives. Kinda like this lady I know who has multiple dogs. When one dies she gets a new one.

@DavidWallace Read the whole thing, the first 5 books at least, and make note of every time a woman is mentioned. You'll see the picture emerge.

David Wallace

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Why would he rape someone he likes?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@DavidWallace because he wants to put his penis inside her.

Cameron

@kenny Howdy

David Wallace

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I have read the whole thing, thanks.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

21:02

But I have to get going. My wife, being an autonomous person who is not obedient to me, is working late, so I must be off to pick up the kids.

@DavidWallace Yeah but you should read it again.

David Wallace

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 doesn't seem like "like" to me.

MετάEd

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 ReligiousTolerance.org did a very good job of collating the passages from which we can see the status of women in the OT.

TRiG

21:30

@MετάEd As an example, Jephthah's daughter. Her own name is never given. (Read the comments on that post for some insightful remarks and some stunning poetry.)

MετάEd

@TRiG The translation of that story is controversial.

TRiG

@MετάEd Of course. Because Christians don't like tragic heroes, and can't accept that Jephthah is one.

MετάEd

@TRiG It's controversial because the meaning is actually in doubt.

And, yes, that story has created some amazing, poignant art of many kinds.

MετάEd