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12:00 AM
Thank you.
 
Thank you for being a friend.
 
Oh yeah, watched every single episode of Golden Girls, too.
In German.
Really amazingly unfunny. But you wouldn't know until you've watched it.
And so I did.
@Robusto no, not Yoichi. Our dearest friend @Mitch right here.
 
I'm only seventh, myself.
@user85795 funny, but the actual issue is much more subtle.
Surely the problem can't be that a nazi shouts nazi paroles. Surely the problem should be that they shout it not in their own language.
What kind of nazi is that. She should be expelled and deported and stripped of her citizenship.
 
12:16 AM
Is that what they would do if it happened in Germany?
 
No, that's just what "nationalist" fucking means.
What kind of nationalist are you if you don't even speak your nation's language.
 
True. Language is a national construct.
 
If it's America first, the fuck do you think you're speaking German for. That's not in America. Their parliament is like 50% left, 25% green, and only 10% nazi.
Speak American or GTFO of the GOP.
 
She wanted shock value, I guess.
 
Nah, just a sudden rush of shit to the empty cavity that others use for storing their brain.
@user85795 that's an interesting question, actually. For most of history, it's sort of the opposite really. But @Cerberus is more of an authority on that.
 
12:23 AM
According to Chomsky.
 
Yes, and I challenge Chomsky to build even just one nation out of people who don't already speak the same language.
The egg comes first. And only after can you have a hen. Or a snake or a crocodile.
 
Just look at Turkey where it is illegal to say the word "Kurdish." According to Wikipedia.
 
That's a separate point really. And again, it can only come much later after you've founded a strong state with a bunch of people that all speak Turkish and not, oh say, Kurdish.
Once you have a strong state based on a common language, then you can conquer others and enforce your language upon them. It is only at that point that the language becomes a national construct.
But if you did exactly none of that, the language would still exist.
We can quip all we want that a language needs an army and a navy, but go tell that to a Geordie.
You will quickly discover that an army is not necessary. A broken bottle to the face will do.
 
and thus ends communication
 
Not all communication is verbal. Indeed most communication is not.
Hence the rise of smileys, mind.
 
12:37 AM
:-)
 
1:09 AM
 
@Robusto New Yorker is so New Yorker, even when it tries to say "the onion", it ends up saying "satire from the Borowitz Report" instead.
 
More terrific NM sky ^^
The Empire of Light
 
The sheds kinda ruin it.
 
Sheds? Them's houses.
I would've had to walk a couple blocks for an unobstructed view, and by then the light would have changed.
 
@Robusto I'm speaking Kiwi tonight.
@Robusto all I'm seying, in this horrible dialict, is that it didn't go streight to my skyporn folder, but to the TODO subfolder that I first opin in GIMP before I put it on my disktop.
 
1:19 AM
Can't ya just enjoy the colors and not try to break my balls every fucking time?
 
I did enjoy the colors first and only breaked your balls later.
I am a man of very strong priorities.
And I've not taken a picture of the sky myself in years, so I much rely on the steady input from this room.
 
Plus German skies aren't as good as these.
 
There's only one other friend on Instagram, but she hasn't posted anything in months.
@Robusto well mine are. I did show you a selection. But this is like half in France, so there's that.
 
I saw a lotta clouds, few colorful ones.
For that matter, I saw few colorful ones in Boston, either.
 
Yeah strong blues plus lavish reds are a rarity.
I always run out of memory when those are around.
 
1:24 AM
But here ... ah, mon ami ... toujours coloré
avec beaucoup de couleurs
 
This is the most recent picture from the friend I mentioned.
10 weeks ago. I'm starving.
 
@RegDwigнt The man is a real sewer.
 
I wouldn't call him exactly a man.
And it's an insult to sewers, too.
Especially that one named after John Oliver now.
 
> This page isn’t working If the problem continues, contact the site owner.
 
Well fuck Instagram, then.
It is working in this five-year old Chrome on Vista, funnily enough.
Maybe one day we'll come full circle and view sky porn in Lynx.
 
1:29 AM
Tried it on Firefox now:
> This Account is Private
 
Here's a 32-bit screenshot for your convenience.
 
Noice.
 
Yeah she's somewhere round your parts, I forget.
 
I can't find her really good ones, those are a couple years back and this computer doesn't know how to scroll.
 
1:33 AM
 
Yes that one I remember.
I saved it.
 
Indeed.
 
3 hours ago, by Cerberus
@RegDwigнt Wow, you remembered.
 
1:35 AM
That is one of my faves.
 
Oooh nifty.
 
No sun, just a really interesting contest between clouds and sky.
 
Now those we don't get here.
Like, this kind of swirl.
 
Sep 26 '20 at 21:15, by Robusto
The sky out here is so damn gorgeous.
 
Yes, the last time we talked about it we ended up discussing Frankfurt and Chicago, I believe.
Yeah there.
 
1:38 AM
Wo ist denn das?
 
Jul 20 '20 at 17:34, by Robusto
This one looks like the loop viewed from one of the harbors: Diversey or Belmont, probably.
 
OH, right. I linked that. Duh.
If I only knew how to read ...
I was thinking about where that might be in Germany. But it wasn't in Germany, it was in Illinois.
 
Well, to be fair, I've no idea if that Robusto guy is credible with his theories.
 
He bears watching.
 
Might as well be Main that he may or may not have puked into.
 
1:40 AM
Odds favor may have.
Although who can say? When you're that drunk, you puke where you can. You don't save it for this or that river.
 
I support that agenda.
 
1:57 AM
One time at a party I almost made it to a nearby creek.
The keyword being "almost".
And the other keywords being "nearby", "creek", "make", and "I".
That was some twenty five years ago. Heavens I'm old.
 
2:21 AM
@RegDwigнt glares
 
2:33 AM
 
@Cerberus Like @RegDwigнt has said, you can go to the market place and tell people all you want without getting arrested by the state. I don't think there is a moral imperative that any company publish for you what you want to say (but maybe a case can be made that a newspaper or blog company -has- to publish what you want to say...I'm not sure).
I think there's a substantial difference between the government and a large company but I'm not sure how to articulate exactly what that implies about each can and cannot do though
 
 
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4:14 AM
@Mitch That is not at all true.
There are many things you could say in a marketplace which are illegal.
And you seem to be ignored the difference in importance and size between Twitter and your grandmother's website.
Size matter.
It's an anti-trust issue.
Monopolies and oligopolies are NOT free to do whatever they want with the market they control.
That is why we have laws.
 
The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that "ownership does not always mean absolute dominion." The court pointed out that the more an owner opens his property up to the public in general, the more his rights are circumscribed by the statutory and constitutional rights of those who are invited in.
Marsh v. Alabama, 326 U.S. 501 (1946), was a case decided by the United States Supreme Court, in which it ruled that a state trespassing statute could not be used to prevent the distribution of religious materials on a town's sidewalk, even though the sidewalk was part of a privately owned company town. The Court based its ruling on the provisions of the First Amendment and Fourteenth Amendment. == Background == The town of Chickasaw, Alabama, was predominantly a Gulf Shipbuilding Corporation company town near Mobile, Alabama, that was owned and operated by the Gulf Shipbuilding Corporation ("Gulf...
Marsh v. Alabama is a precedent for a number of cases dealing with civil rights and private property. The Wikipedia page is okay but not great.
 
nods
Even before that, many governments around the world have moved against monopolies, including America.
 
4:32 AM
@Cerberus Yes; one model is the public utility, which cannot refuse customers.
But if I have alternatives in cell phone service, can I be refused because I contributed to a political party the CEO doesn’t like?
Or a candidate the CEO doesn’t like?
 
Yeah, that shouldn't happen with large, important services.
 
And then, can a “cloud” provider refuse to carry my web traffic?
AWS, to name one. Bezos owns the Washington Post, and is widely kmown as anti-Trump. So there you are.
known, that is
 
@Xanne if and when they become a government entity, yes.
Remember when Cloudflare kicked 8chan off? Wasn't that just a terrible miscarriage of justice on the part of the federal government?
"Shouldn't be allowed to" my butt.
These are terrorists.
And I would not have used that term before a week ago.
But no other word suffices for what was done to the Capitol.
 
@tchrist The trials will be interesting. It’s really hard to prove sedition.
 
It is.
There are records, though, for some of them.
 
4:52 AM
@Cerberus Twitter is not a monopoly.
Most people are not even on Twitter.
Even most of the people that are on Twitter are not on Twitter.
 
 
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6:06 AM
@RegDwigнt It is a company with great market power.
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It doesn't have to be a monopoly.
@tchrist I do not think that constitutes terrorism?
It was not aimed at ordinary people.
 
6:59 AM
@RegDwigнt Twitter is a Twitter monopoly.
2
It's the only thing of its kind.
No, actually, that might not strictly be true. I've heard rumors of free alternatives.
But almost nobody uses them.
 
7:44 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, potentially bad keyword in answer, toxic answer detected (159): What do you call someone who doesn't know how to swim? by user411432 on english.SE
 
8:35 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Chinese character in title (83): Connection between "wiseguy" and the Cantonese slang 古惑仔 by masterchan on english.SE
 
 
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10:08 AM
minus 22°C
 
10:53 AM
In Texas you don't say "you all" you say "y'all" which means, "you all," unless there's a lot of y'all then it's "all y'all" which means "all you all." Isn't that amazing? — Oleg_S 50 mins ago
Word of the day: all y'all
 
English loves to take a second person plural pronoun and make it singular
 
11:24 AM
Russia's last Emperor with his mother
 
 
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1:33 PM
@CowperKettle That's a sad story. I remember watching "Nicholas and Alexandra" a long time ago. I detest monarchies, but it's hard not to feel sorry for them.
 
 
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2:38 PM
@Cerberus Twitter is not a monopoly on expression.
The internet is not a monopoly on expression. Freedom of speech was an issue well before the internet existed, maybe even before computers.
I grant that a lot of this discussion is about questions of size and of power (very continuous measures) so the cutoff is vague
And there are similarities between governments and large enough private corporations.
Also having a -number- of companies, even though not in explicit collusion, choosing to deplatform feels a little dodgy.
But the things these individuals were deplatformed for are (probably) things that you would be OK with restricting (calls for violence, organizing to commit violence, etc).
 
2:55 PM
Deplatforming is a monstrous word.
Reminds me of defenestration, but less elegant.
Pirates would execute people by deplatforming them.
 
3:18 PM
oust, still, ban, shove, banish, bar, hush, ditch, thrust, lown, shush, purge, cleanse, fleme, unland, evict, exile, expel, disterr, devest, exturb, expulse, kick out, spit out, chase out, cast out
eject
 
3:31 PM
 
4:02 PM
@tchrist Deplanking.
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.
 
@tchrist Then do not use it.
@Mitch It also not about absolute power in society as a whole, but 'market power'.
 
shun
 
That's what modern anti-trust laws are focusing on.
@Mitch If they should be restricted to protect society, isn't it the role of the state to do exactly that?
Either it should be forbidden, or not.
If not, then powerful private organisations shouldn't be policing society.
 
4:31 PM
That said, if I must play Hades's advocate, Twitter could say, the state is deficient, and so, if nobody will police what ought to be criminal behaviour, then we will do it.
But that doesn't mean this is how it should be.
Either the state is deficient in policing criminals, or it is deficient in regulating powerful businesses.
Or both.
 
@Cerberus The modern American regime polices only the opposition's criminals, not its own. Hadn't you noticed? :(
 
@tchrist I think the justice system is still fairly independent.
 
4:47 PM
Interesting book about the French Revolution.
 
@Cerberus got this message from Telegram just now and I'm not even joking:
> In the past 72 hours alone, more than 25 million new users from around the world joined Telegram.

Thank you!
More like, 25 million new rednecks that would kill me dead if they had the chance.
@Cerberus yes, but that's weasel wording. You keep backing off from your statements when pressured.
What "market" are you talking about, anyway? Please define.
Posting bullshit on the Internet? That's not a market, and there is no monopoly.
Twitter doesn't even have a monopoly on reaching Twitter users. Any Twitter user at all is reached by a hundred other means every single day. Websites, print, TV, radio, colleagues, friends, family.
 
Hello folks.
How to say in official email:

"I came across to a problem with the assets. This problem slowed me down at least two hours off the schedule."

If you understand me :)
 
@FaheemMitha by that token, this room here is a monopoly. And so is your kitchen.
In the market of being your kitchen, your kitchen is the only player.
I say, we must destroy your kitchen.
Pass some laws, quick.
 
@RegDwigнt Hardly comparable.
 
4:53 PM
Easily comparable. Indeed I only just did it just now.
"Only Twitter is Twitter." is not a formal definition. Only your kitchen is your kitchen.
Provide me with a formal definition of Twitter.
And then as soon as you try, you'll immediately be able to name any number of alternatives off the top of your own head.
Note that this is not an idle exercise. This is what you'll actually have to do if you want to pass an actual law of any kind.
Otherwise Twitter will just say yeah no, this law actually doesn't apply to us, and they have ten thousand lawyers to prove it.
 
A Twitter is a comapny with ten thousand lawyers to prove otherwise
 
What, exactly, is Twitter's market. What power, exactly, does it hold that, say, Rupert Murdoch does not hold tenfold.
@MattE.Эллен good. Which is a very competitive market with a thousand other global players.
 
@Hairi I don't quite understand. Perhaps something like "There was a problem with the assets, which has delayed the schedule by at least two hours."
 
@MattE.Эллен
Yes something like that.
What I want to say is that because of this problem I will not manage to keep the deadline. Probably will be ready two hours later
 
@Hairi cool. What I posted conveys that.
 
5:06 PM
@MattE.Эллен Thank you
 
no problem
 
I like fundamental theories for physics.
 
5:28 PM
@RegDwigнt First, there are 500 million people on Telegram. And it has had surges at various times.
> On Tueday, Durov shared a little more data regarding Telegram's recent milestone.

"These new users came from across the globe," he wrote in his Telegram channel. "We've had surges of downloads before, throughout our 7-year history of protecting user privacy. But this time is different. People no longer want to exchange their privacy for free services."

The boost in users may have something to do with a change in WhatsApp's terms of service, which now state that the app will share certain categories of information with Facebook.
But what I have seen many times in the past is people's installing Telegram, using it to send a few messages, then forgetting about the app.
The next time they have to reinstall apps on a phone, they don't reinstall Telegram.
So I'm not quite convinced Telegram will be a replacement of Twitter or Facebook in any way.
I would say no.
> Als je kijkt naar het onderzoek rondom deplatforming lijken er genoeg aanwijzingen om te voorspellen wat er nu gaat gebeuren met Trump-aanhangers. Die moeten na Parler opnieuw op zoek naar een alternatief platform. Rogers denkt dat het Telegram wordt, maar mogelijk staat er ook weer een nieuw platform op. Het is natuurlijk maar de vraag of dat wél in de appwinkels mag blijven staan.
...
Als er een platform opstaat dat wel aan die regels zou voldoen, en stel dat de techgiganten ze dan netjes lieten bestaan, dan is de kans alsnog groot dat de groep volgelingen kleiner blijft dan ze nu is op
Research shows that shutting people out from major network services is quite effective.
 
Today the deposition of snow is thick so that my feet may be buried as I walk on the road.
 
6:30 PM
@Bohemianrelativist Russia's Ministry of Emergencies is sending out SMS messages to people in the Urals, saying that another blizzard is coming.
It is actually quite nice to run in deepish snow. Not very deep.
It cushions the foot strikes against the ground.
Word of the evening: treecreeper
 
@RegDwigнt Absolutely not. Tell me where and when.
"Monopoly" is just an example of market power. Reducing it to that is a straw man.
By the way, I'm seeing tons of my contacts joining Telegram today and yesterday.
@RegDwigнt Newspapers have been reporting on Whatsapp's new bad privacy policy this week, and the richest man on the planet has been posting on Twitter(!) warning people against Whatsapp. So Durov is probably right when he says new users are coming from all over the world.
And most Trump supports are probably not joining Telegram.
> Signal saw 7.5 million downloads last week, a 4,200% increase on the previous week. Telegram, a similar app, saw 9 million downloads, a 91% increase. India was the biggest source of downloads for both.
 
6:47 PM
I have a lot of 'real-life' friends present on Telegram.
 
6:59 PM
I have a couple.
But the large majority I must speak to through Whatsapp.
We have a Signal family group, but only half of the family is in there.
And the Windows client doesn't synchronise well for me.
 
7:29 PM
I downloaded Signal yesterday.
I think in terms of security and safety, Telegram is preferable to Signal for Iranians, because you get to delete every message in chats, even those posted by the other person.
So if you fear that you may be arrested someday and physically forced to reveal all your passwords and chats and stuff, and thus you want to clear risky records once in a while, Telegram is optimum.
If the chance of that happening is miniscule, then Signal is preferable in safeguarding your data from surveillance, I think.
WhatsApp is the absolute worse in every regard, of course.
 
@Færd Is the message also deleted from Telegram's servers?
 
@Cerberus I'm not sure. Maybe not.
 
@Færd In most regards, but I believe Telegram's security is a bit worse than Whatsapp's (which I believe uses Signal's security software thingy).
 
Oh?
 
Yes.
 
7:42 PM
I'd had heard otherwise from some friends who feared getting arrested.
Maybe it's just about the 'delete everything' facility.
 
> One thing that WhatsApp definitely has going for it is its end-to-end encryption. Plus, E2E on WhatsApp is available on every single mode of communication that the app enables. So all your messages, video calls, voice calls, photos, and anything else you share is end-to-end encrypted on WhatsApp.

What that means, is that you and the recipient are the only people who can read the messages you send to them. WhatsApp can’t decrypt the contents of your messages, calls, photos, etc, thus ensuring your security and privacy.
Telegram messages are not encrypted end to end, I believe?
> It’s also noteworthy that even though all your communication on WhatsApp uses E2E encryption, the company does not encrypt backups (cloud and local). Also, it does not encrypt the metadata which is used to carry communication between two endpoints. This is one of the major criticisms of WhatsApp’s security model. While metadata does not allow anyone to read your messages, it lets authorities know whom and when you messaged someone, and for how long.
 
So why does WhatsApp get such a bad rap in comparison to Telegram? Durov is always going on about how they're superior to WhatsApp.
 
The metadata.
Although I believe only Whatsapp has access to those, not governments.
 
Hmm. I'm not well-versed in this.
 
Do you always use secret chat in Telegram?
I don't, and I believe normal conversations are not encrypted end to end in Telegram.
 
7:46 PM
@Cerberus Even under gag orders?
@Cerberus No, usually not.
 
@Færd Then governments can probably access them as well.
I think the article above gives a good overview.
 
I'll take a look. Thanks.
 
I'm not sure whether Telegram stores metadata.
> While WhatsApp encrypts messages and calls (and that’s enough for most users), Signal goes one step further and encrypts the metadata too. In order to protect user privacy from all corners, Signal devised a new way to communicate between the sender and the recipient and it’s called Sealed Sender. Basically, with Sealed Sender, no one will be able to know — not even Signal — who is messaging whom, which is amazing.
 
And the whole code is available online, so people can verify all these claims.
As opposed to Telegram, I think.
 
Yeah.
 
Tim
7:59 PM
@Cerberus That was very misleading
2 days ago, by Cerberus
Elite is a collective noun: it is not one person.
> d: a group of persons who by virtue of position or education exercise much power or influence
members of the ruling elite
e: a member of such an elite —usually used in plural
the elites …, pursuing their studies in Europe
— Robert Wernick
 
> The troops should be disembarked, except from 2,500 to 3,000 men of the élite of the army which..should remain on board the frigates.
> A workers' corps d'élite from whose ranks men can be picked to undertake the more skilled jobs.
 
Tim
You are all elites
 
> 1958 Observer 18 May 6/4 Grammar school pupils—the bulk of our future corps d'élite.
1970 Times 19 Nov. 10/2 The Bar is not remotely a corps d'élite—as is impliedly..claimed.
@Tim Are you trying to make trouble here?
 
Tim
elite, elite, elite
 
> 1924 W. Holtby Crowded Street iii. 27 The magic circle of ‘Them’, the great ones. ‘They’ were the élite, the prefects and the games captains.
> 2005 D. Cruickshank Around World in 80 Treasures 250 The doors behind the sultan opened into two routes—both of which were only to be trod by the select, the elite, of the land.
> 1951 J. Steinbeck About Ed Ricketts in J. Steinbeck & E. F. Ricketts Log from ‘Sea of Cortez’ p. liv The neat page full of small elite type.
1986 ZX Computing Monthly Oct. 76/2 There are two 10 cpi fonts..two 12 cpi, Elite (traditional), Piazza (italic), and a proportional font.
2008 P. L. Fradkin W. Stegner & Amer. West (2009) 78 Stegner..hammered on typewriter ribbons until the small elite typeface was almost illegible.
 
8:06 PM
@Tim That is bad English.
 
The Eurasian magpie or common magpie (Pica pica) is a resident breeding bird throughout the northern part of the Eurasian continent. It is one of several birds in the crow family designated magpies, and belongs to the Holarctic radiation of "monochrome" magpies. In Europe, "magpie" is used by English speakers as a synonym for the Eurasian magpie: the only other magpie in Europe is the Iberian magpie (Cyanopica cooki), which is limited to the Iberian Peninsula. The Eurasian magpie is one of the most intelligent birds, and it is believed to be one of the most intelligent of all non-human animals...
 
Modern dictionaries have a tendency to include common mistakes without censure.
 
Pica pica
Be best.
 
You will notice that the uneducated use is not mentioned in conventional dictionaries.
 
Apparently, elite simply means educated or competent these days. Who knew?
> 1852 C. M. Yonge Two Guardians viii. 143 She did not belong to those élite circles.
1912 J. H. Moore Ethics & Educ. xiv. 111 The fighting instinct persists so strongly, even in élite peoples, that all our games nearly..are arranged on the plan of a battle.
1955 A. Koestler Trail of Dinosaur 209 The proposal aims at the creation of an élite force, within the framework of the Atlantic Pact.
> 1962 G. Murchie Music of Spheres ii. 24 The most elite of the elite new breeds grew powerful antigravity muscles and air gills called lungs.
1985 P. W. On & C. H. Persell in P. W. Cookson & C. H. Persell Preparing for Power i. 28 Janitors pick up the litter of the elite students and the dogs.
2014 G. Tholen Changing Nature of Graduate Labour Market ii. 45 Recruitment practices for elite graduate positions may not deliberately be unmeritocratic.
Toppers the whole pommy lot of them.
Next up: tony.
> 1922 J. Joyce Ulysses ii. viii. [Lestrygonians] 153 Theodore's cousin in Dublin Castle. One tony relative in every family.
toffish
> 1901 J. K. Jerome Obs. Henry 31 Toffy enough she looked in her diamonds and furs.
The English have always known how to do toffee well.
 
8:26 PM
We have this:
> Nnl. tof ‘leuk, aardig’ in Hij speult een rolletjen, dat tof is [1805; Boddaert], tof ‘goed’ [1824; Weiland], toffe kerel [1914; Van Ginnken]. — Ontleend, mogelijk via het Bargoens, aan Jiddisch tof ‘goed’ dat een ontlening is van Hebreeuws tôv ‘goed’.
Probably not related to English toff?
 
They don't know.
> Etymology: Perhaps a vulgar perversion of tuft n., as formerly applied to a nobleman or gentleman-commoner at Oxford.
 
Ah, I see.
 
8:58 PM
I don't see.
 
9:11 PM
Put on rose-coloured spectacles?
 
9:26 PM
 
10:09 PM
@Cerberus I think you are saying that (pick your internet voicing option twitter reddit parler blogs whatever) is like a utility, where you have no choice. I think you have lots of choice. An internet provider (of the cable) that may well be like a utility. But suppose there is only Twitter. Even then banning someone depends on the content of what they say.
If they say 'storm the bastille tomorrow at 8am' the government should take some action (both prepare for it, send a SWAT team to their house, and possibly ban them). If they say 'let's protest against poisonous drinking water' that's probably protected. (lots of room for judgment here.
@Cerberus good ones will usually add '(non-standard)'
 
My two cats fought in the corridor at 2 a.m. and woke me up
Behemoth, who is a good 10 years younger than Nelson, usually starts the fight
 
10:30 PM
@CowperKettle Pro tip: don't give your cats the run of the house at night, or you will be awakened with problems at awful hours.
The most litigious man ever to hold high office is now having trouble finding lawyers to represent him in his impeachment trial.
> “I’m not terribly surprised that top tier conservative attorneys who a Republican president might normally turn to would not be interested in jumping on this particular grenade,” said Keith Whittington, a politics professor at Princeton University.
 
11:08 PM
@Cerberus How do you know that? I don't use FaceBook and Twitter.
 
11:20 PM
@Mitch I don't get it, why do you use parentheses when you always forget to have the closed paranthesis
Apr 16 '12 at 18:02, by FumbleFingers
<wails, gnashes teeth, bangs head on wall>
 
11:44 PM
It's not fair, rich people living in bigger homes could enjoy the lock-down.
 

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