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8:00 PM

So anyway Joel McHale would be driving some car down a desert highway and talk into the camera how the rental service was all awesome blah, and then the trunk would fly open and a different car would jump out. And he'd then sit in it and talk some more. Rinse repeat.

Alison Brie ... mmmm.

It went from like Mustang to SUV to Lamborghini to a semi or something.

If you want to see her nude, she offers that in GLOW.

Surprisingly well crafted CGI it was.

But scary as fuck.

imdb.com/title/tt5770786/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Hey, wtf happened to one-boxing?

8:01 PM

@Robusto I remember watching an interview with her a couple years ago and making a mental note how the poor girl has aged 20 years in 2 years.

It's been 10 years, actually.

@Robusto yeah I think it's gone. Amazon wouldn't one-box for me the other week. And some other shit I don't remember.

@Robusto but that's not when the interview was.

I think season 4 or whatever had just come out the year before.

Excuse me a moment, I'm watching porn.

You don't have to excuse yourself for that, you're on the Internet.

Couldn't find the clip, sorry.

8:04 PM

Well I'm looking for it now. Because I'm on the Internet.

Yup it's up on the hub.

I feel like shit. I have a cold and haven't ridden since Friday.

Well that sucks.

What's up with you folks having hail and cold.

I thought it was summer.

Climate change is a bitch.

Trump has outlawed that one guys.

And at any rate I'm in the same hemisphere and for once the summer's quite nice actually which it wasn't the last couple years.

Though hail is not a thing in my life at all.

Which hemisphere is that?

8:07 PM

user image

The left one duh.

America's in the right one.

Just watch Fox News.

@Mitch your photoshop skills are commendable.

3 hours ago, by Robusto

Stop tweening me with your nothing comments.

It's not nothing tho this time. There's some white in it. And some black as well. Basically what I'm saying Mitch is very racist.

@RegDwigнt Code brown

I gotta go change my pants

Yeah that code doesn't activate me, mate.

You need to speek Russian with a Putin accent.

8:10 PM

Sounds like a shitty code.

At least it's not all zeroes.

Also dafuq WHARF.

I know! Klingons are African American!

Which obviously is racist

What a quayint name.

@Reg, make me a chat owner so I can see dafuq Mitch is doing.

RegDwigнt has added Robusto to the list of this room's owners.

8:12 PM

Like the Na'avi'i on Pandora

He's doing quayint things and posting jetty remarks.

Thank you.

Not sure what that's supposed to fix.

Do some people see images other people don't?

Rob, please please please don't do anything you shouldn't, and don't not do anything you should.

Not so far.

8:13 PM

And there was Cerberus thinking we didn't live in a class society.

I think you're not seeing images that others do.

@tchrist Always. Never have, never will. I wuz framed, as you may recall.

Who framed Rob the Rabbit.

You may have to be nicer than you're used to always being. There are responsibilities involved here. You can always disown yourself if you don't want those.

@Robusto Are you still seeing the lack of things:

3 hours ago, by Robusto

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8:15 PM

@Mitch Yes.

@Robusto hm.

@tchrist Well, I don't have to come here at all, for that matter.

I didn't for a long time, if you recall.

I know. I just don't want you to get in trouble, ok?

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A: A guide to moderating chat

What tools are available to room owners? Room owners are users that have some elevated permissions in a chatroom. Typically, they will be the first line of defense when it comes to inappropriate content or behavior in a room. Users will look to the room owners to guide the room. The room owners...

No problema.

Lol I never read that.

8:17 PM

The only things that room owners can see that normal users cannot see is others' deleted messages they have an explicit link to.

I don't even know what ownership entails. I've been an owner since the beginning and can't see that I can contribute anything of value. Certainly haven't been for seven years.

I see dead people

Unless they've bee cremated

Then it's sort of a mess

@RegDwigнt There was quite a bit of work/docs done by the powers that be that grew out of the crises that risked shutting down all chat everywhere forever.

Oh is that true now.

@tchrist Oh

8:19 PM

I've been missing out on things.

And we had no idea

at any moment

the plug could be pulled

because of a few bad actors

that we've never seen

Yes.

Oh, I've seen them.

I for one got appointed owner by the system. The chat itself just went and said yeah you're an owner alright. Because you've posted over 9000 things and noone else did.

Not so much here, although it's not quite never.

how about banning those bad actors?

8:19 PM

So I'm the system. I'm the chat.

It's you

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A: We're more aggressively enforcing self-moderation in chat

So, in keeping with This Meta.SO post, I figure I might as well mention the obvious: Chat moderation tools are terrible Let me describe a real event that illustrates this. I was in a room where there's banter. People sometimes take friendly jabs at each other and someone crossed a line. Someon...

it's your fault

Yeah I saw that title in the sidebar on the main site.

people aren't generally jerks here

ugly maybe

8:20 PM

Well by the looks of it, there's no people in here unless I'm in here.

yes. yes, that's how it works

We don't have a problem here.

we could make a problem

Nah we couldn't. We suck.

No, you couldn't.

8:21 PM

See. Everyone agrees with The System.

there's potential. don't hide your light under a bushel

it'l light up the bushel and burn the house down

I pour my potential into violins not internets.

And likewise does Rob.

those poor poor violins

the poor neighbors

361

Q: If you're gonna talk Politics, you must respect those who disagree

This is sort of a follow-up to two past discussions: Toward a philosophy of Chat Does the Be Nice policy require SE users to "be nice" to people who are not SE users (e.g. public figures)? Over the past year, there's been an uptick in discussions of politics in chat. JUST LOOK AT THIS CHART! ...

discussion chat etiquette

Yeah not sure about Mitch at all tho. He doesn't seem to play an instrument. Very suspicious. And then all those racist photoshops he posts.

8:23 PM

the poor cats hearing their compatriot being stepped on.

@RegDwigнt I play the didgeridoo.

@tchrist yeah which is why I never talk politics. Waste of my time.

and the triangle

@RegDwigнt no shit

For the record, Matt made me an owner way back when. Then, as an owner, I extended the courtesy to @tchrist and Mr. Shiny and @Cerb. Then Cerb and I got 86'ed because of an invasion of hostile people bent on destruction. I am more sinned against than sinning.

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Q: Toward a philosophy of Chat

TL;DR: The Problem This keeps happening in chat: Surprise at flags on vulgar messages. Language that would invariably get your comments deleted on the main site occasionally gets flagged and deleted in chat. Confusion reigns. Controversial topics leading to bickering and name-calling. Folks b...

discussion chat feedback help

8:24 PM

@Robusto see I don't even remember half of those details. Or all of those details.

I only remember how I became The System.

@Robusto 86'd?

No profanity in chat

@Mitch What Sarah Huckabee got in the Red Hen.

No pro fannies in this chat.

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> Should your room be graced with the presence of a user who is causing trouble, and they fail to respond to the guidance of the room owners and other participants, then you have the ability to kick them out of the room for a period of time.
The kick-mute length increases with each instance: initially they will be kicked for 1 minute, then 5 minutes, then 30 minutes. After three kicks from the room, an automatic moderator flag is raised. The kick-mute option is available by clicking on the username and the following pop-up will be presented:

8:25 PM

@Robusto mmm yeah, their fried chicken!

kinda weird to call it the 'red hen'

Have we ever even kicked anyone from this room. I'm not counting ourselves.

It's like the grocery store 'piggly wiggly'. Pigs feel uncomfortable going there.

I know we've been frozen a couple times. And then Disney made a movie out of it.

@RegDwigнt let it go dude

@RegDwigнt I kick muted one of the vultures after they were incessantly flagging Reg. End of story. Only time I ever muted anyone, and it was like a crowd of Sean Hannity's started shouting me down with outrage.

8:26 PM

@Robusto Yes, that was annoying, when we got 69'ed and all.

Why did they do that to us?

@RegDwigнt I think a handful of people have been frozen in the further past

Sean Hannity. I remember that name. Is he a snowboarder?

@RegDwigнt No, just an ordinary liar.

it's been relatively quiet and uncontroversial for the past couple years

But anyway, I do recall your booting Catija. That was a bad idea.

8:27 PM

@Robusto Well that sucks. He could at least snowboard.

Then again, nobody's perfect.

oh shit. we're talking shop. we're talking about what we're talking about.

Catija. I remember that name. Was she a snowboarder perhaps?

It's like ham radio operators talking about their ham radio equipment

I don't know about that.

But I know her from Cooking.

8:28 PM

But as we have seen, no good deed goes unpunished.

@Cerberus Well you don't know anything. Are you a snowboarder?

I generally like her, but let's say we have wildly different opinions on freedom.

@RegDwigнt I don't know.

@Cerberus I think that's quite a different thing

David Hasselhoff - Looking For Freedom

@Mitch W'evs.

8:30 PM

@Mitch oh I need to listen to some of that. I need a new mic.

@Cerberus I only remember when Reg and I chased Rand away when he came prancing about thinking he wanted to show off how much he thought he knew about English. And that we did simply by swarming him with more incomprehensibilities than he could shake his tick at.

I noticed that recording myself with the mobile phone kinda sucks.

@tchrist I do not recall this Rand.

@tchrist Ayn Rand???? I must be older than I thought.

@Cerberus Sān sì èr shi yī

8:31 PM

I know your Randy from pictures.

@Cerberus al’Thor F&SF mod

Oh, I know him.

"recent", and with history.

When was that?

He's generally nice?

Well must be in the last seven years like.

8:32 PM

at least?

Two or three years ago? Dunno.

See. Called it.

The System never errs.

When used as a verb, eighty-six, eighty-sixed, 86, 86ed, or 86'd is American English slang for getting rid of something, ejecting someone, or refusing service. == Meaning == According to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary, "86" is a slang term that is used in the American popular culture as a transitive verb in the food service industry as a term to describe an item no longer available on the menu. The Merriam Webster dictionary suggests the term may be associated with the word "nix" ("no" or a more general prohibition). It is related to the word "Nichts", which means "nothing" in the German language...

I must have been elsewhere.

@Robusto SHS is no longer on the menu? Schade

8:33 PM

So today must be the International Remembrance Day or something. I hear so many things thrown around that I kinda don't even remember remembering.

Like even that Wiki @Robusto just posted.

He posted that before.

And then I forgot he did.

ORLY?

Yeah.

@ThibaultMartinez Having trouble following? Us too. Did you want to ask anything?

How does it feel?

To be on your own?

8:34 PM

Apr 17 '11 at 13:24, by Robusto

The American jet is an F-86 and the Soviet one is a MiG-15. In most performance aspects the MiG was the superior aircraft, although the F-86 enjoyed a greater kill ratio (10:1) in combat, mostly due to inexperienced pilots flying the MiGs. When experienced Russian pilots were flying the MiGs, the actual ratio was more like 1.3:1.

Well that's not the one.

but also interesting

Feb 22 '11 at 1:38, by Robusto

Well, that's why we need more attentive moderation. I personally don't like some questions to get a peremptory dismissal, but then there are some that I'm glad get 86-ed in a hurry.

Warmer.

Dec 23 '11 at 3:50, by Robusto

Just think of it like this. 10° C is 32°F + 18, or 50. 20 is 68, 30 is 86, and 40 is hell on earth.

Jul 3 '14 at 14:35, by Robusto

Here's reality for you, on a percentage basis:

96-100% = really good
86-95% = good
78-85% = not bad
66-77% = crap
below 66% = kill it with fire
below 25% = kill it with fire and find everything it's ever touched and kill that with fire too

Much warmer still.

@Robusto oh that's just HOT

Also why is there still Hasselhoff in the background.

This is the third song I'm listening to. That was never the plan.

fuck YouTube autoplay

I'm CRAAAAZY for you, you're CRAAAAZY for me.

@Færd I don't know, I would not be surprised to see that second picture called a quay.

Nor a wharf.

@RegDwigнt Get out of my car.

I understand that reference.

What I don't understand if it's really a reference.

OMG I KNEW SOMETHING

8:37 PM

You can't know

AND YET

Hasselhoff transcends even your general incapability.

@RegDwigнt Is this how you normally respond to people's jokes, rather than with a polite laugh?

@Cerberus What happened. Did you forget it?

@Cerberus I dunno, you've been watching me for years, is it?

8:38 PM

Possibly!

But I knew it at the time of that line.

BTW, I haven't been able to find my damn car keys since Friday morning. And they have to be in the house because I drove myself home. WTF is up with that?

@RegDwigнt There have been intermissions.

@Robusto Maybe you left them in the carriage.

When some of the cameras went off in a power outage.

@Robusto They're in your hands right now

8:39 PM

I looked everywhere. Even in the not at all likely places.

@Robusto Odd. Just cycle, then.

@Cerberus stop playing me like Five Nights at Freddy's.

Don't push it.

Push it real good

@Robusto Are there any holes in your pockets?

8:39 PM

@Robusto you should google for "where are my keys". As I sure a million people actually have done by now.

Between the lining of your coat?

@Cerberus Only for money.

Hmm.

In the fridge?

@Cerberus I don't wear a coat in summer.

The oven?

The freezer?

8:40 PM

Anyway I can't find the wiki but there's like fifteen instances of Rob 86ing things left and right.

The rubbish bin?

NOU

@RegDwigнt There's an amazon service for it

Looked there too.

Do you have a strong magnet?

A metal detector?

The garden?

8:41 PM

Too much metal in my house to make that work.

Yeah because that'd make him find the keys and not the fridge.

You could use it in the garden maybe, or with rubbish.

@Robusto You should switch to Gothic Melodic Speed Death. Problem solved. Also a few other problems.

Is the car locked? Are they inside the car?

On the ground near the car?

I was coming back from the eye doctor, had my lens prescription and the day's mail in my hand, plus my keys, I vaguely remember putting the keys somewhere non-standard and now they're just gone. So if I can't find them by Tuesday morning it's going to cost me $300 to get a new set. Right now I just have the backup.

8:42 PM

I am liking how enthusiastic Cerberus is about the situation. A true dog at heart.

Did the cat paw them off the table and under the fridge or similar?

I looked.

I like thinking about problems. Especially if they're not mine own.

Even searched the washer/dryer in the laundry room, etc.

Right.

You've checked all shelves in the house?

Between papers on your desk or table?

8:43 PM

I emptied out all my dresser drawers even.

Nada.

Your wife?

Where do you throw away all the junk mail?

Zilch.

Bupkis.

Checked the recycling.

Do you have a metal detector?

I am paranoid about losing my keys. I actually almost always hold them in the palm of my hand. Except at home where I just put them in the door and leave there.

8:44 PM

@Cerberus Do I look that geeky to you?

Yes.

But no matter.

I remember using my phone as a metal detector.

What.

It could generally find the pipes in the wall.

But it wasn't super precise.

You have a strange life.

There is one -meter present in many phones that can do this.

8:47 PM

@Cerberus See, pipes belong in the wall, or so I was taught.

Yeah tell that to organ makers.

Yes, but they do not belong wherever you're going to drill a hole.

They get the basicstest things wrong.

@Cerberus I think it's the other way round how it generally works.

You don't say.

I don't. I type.

8:49 PM

Typing can be saying.

Just as it can be writing.

There's a voice in my head reading it aloud but it doesn't have an accent so that can't be me.

Inferiority complex?

No. It's called facts.

Oh.

I don't know any of those.

And that's a fact.

8:51 PM

Do you think Erdogan will win today?

I didn't know he was going to.

I don't follow the news.

Or in this case, the non-news.

Today are parliamentary and presidential elections.

So far, it seems Erdogan claims presidential victory in the first round, but he may have lost his majority in parliament.

But the official results will only be announced tomorrow.

Yeah I guess I've arrived in the Internet Age alright. I don't care about IRL anymore whether good or bad as long as it stays the same.

Right.

Erdogan is there to stay, Putin is there to stay, Merkel is there to stay, Lukashenko is there to stay, Trump is there to get re-elected, Berlusconi is there to come back.

And it's good because then I don't have to care. Because it's same old same old.

8:55 PM

I think only one of those is certain.

We'll talk again in five years.

Berlusconi, of course.

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Q: Name for the idea that as something becomes more complex, more overhead is necessary

For example, In software, as a project becomes larger, more documentation is necessary. And this relationship is not linear -- in fact, the amount of documentation over the size of the project will increase with the size of the project. Similarly, as an organization becomes larger, there needs ...

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And that is really the tragedy of the Brexit. That is why they shot themselves in the foot with that. Because now they have to change everything and care about IRL.

Who are 'they'?

8:57 PM

The Brits.

What do they have to change?

Well not the pillow norms that they don't.

Ah, I didn't know we had those.

Well that was Farage's advertised reason for leaving.

153 pillow norms and regulations.

Ah, that guy who got paid by a Russian oligarch.

8:58 PM

Of which only 10 were related to pillows and the rest was just unrelated search results that they never filtered.

And the 10 that did apply they now have to reinstitute themselves because they still have to trade with the EU so they need the norms no matter what but now nobody's writing shit for them they have to write it all from scratch.

Of course.

They will have to comply with almost all EU rules.

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