English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

RegDwigнt

17:00

They say repetition legitimizes, but it does nothing for me here.

Mitch

@Robusto Carnival relations with a dictionary, rainbow striped and fireworks and dancing in the street

Carnivore relations with a dictionary, a slice of bacon between each page

tchrist

@RegDwigнt I think poets create a short foot that's missing a syllable when they want it to be especially strong.

RegDwigнt

Carnival relations with a dictionary,
Rainbow striped and fireworks
And dancing in the street
Gave proof through the night
that our flag was still there.

See, I can poetry, too.

@tchrist yeah I suppose being jarring is strong by definition.

tchrist

Only now that summer is come upon us. When the leaves fall, so too will your poet tree.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Sheer pottery

Bowls that you can look straight through

RegDwigнt

17:02

I call them super bowls.

Every player gets to wear one on each finger.

Mitch

I call them superb owls

You're awesome!

RegDwigнt

No spoonerisms in this chat.

tchrist

> The owl and the flittermouse went to sea...

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Whether the flag was there or not doesn't seem like it'd be as important as making sure the drummer and fife boys got a clean set of clothes.

RegDwigнt

@tchrist Then the Irish man said to the Pope, why the long hat.

Mitch

17:04

Those kids' outfits are a fashion nightmare

RegDwigнt

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Said the bishop to the vicar

tchrist

@Mitch The drummer's problem with the fife boys is that he was hoping to get six out of them.

Mitch

A six pack. Drummers don't work for just one

tchrist

@RegDwigнt Or at least a relative minor, which will get you 20 except in Arkansas.

RegDwigнt

17:06

I broke my g string trying to finger a minor.

I bet you've heard that one from Larry before.

Mitch

Dirty Uncle Larry?

Ohh...music puns

Here's a dirty one... why do they call a viola in German ein Bratsche?

Because that's the sound it makes when a car rolls over it

hahhaha

very dirty

snicker

Robusto

@Mitch Everything's better with bacon.

RegDwigнt

Just imagine all the additional memes if we had 26 notes.

Or if the Roman alphabet only had 8 letters.

The Internet would be full of memes! Picture that.

Robusto

Too late.

RegDwigнt

It's never too late to picture. That's why painters are still a thing.

Robusto

17:12

Not representational.

RegDwigнt

Just like your Congress.

Mitch

@Robusto Vocal relations with a dictionary "AA - A RIVER IN HOLLAND, AARDWOLF - A GROUND DWELLING MAMMAL OF THE CANIDS, AARDVARK - ..."

RegDwigнt

In Russia, there's a town called АА on the river called ЯЯ.

There's also a town called ЫЫ for some reason.

Mitch

Pfft, Russians

haha

RegDwigнt

Haha watch your tongue Mitch.

Surprise Russian Samovar incoming.

Mitch

17:13

I hear one now

CowperKettle

My Russian friend from Yekaterinburg liked you musical page very much, Reg

RegDwigнt

Nobody expects the Russian Samovar!

Mitch

@RegDwigнt I just broke my mouth on that one.

RegDwigнt

@CowperKettle thank you.

Mitch

ever lasting gobstopper

CowperKettle

17:14

@RegDwigнt Really? I googled and found none

Яя (река)

Я́я — река в Кемеровской и Томской областях, левый приток Чулыма (бассейн Оби). В основе названия, вероятно, лежит тюркское яй — «лето». Следовательно, это река, где были летние стоянкиДлина — 380 км, площадь бассейна — 11,7 тыс. км². Исток находится в отрогах Кузнецкого Алатау, к востоку от посёлка Яшкино (Кемеровская область). Питание снеговое. Ледостав с начала ноября по апрель. Судоходна на протяжении 114 км от устья. Пригодна для сплава, популярное место для рыбной ловли, в реке водятся: щука, окунь, пескарь, плотва, чебак, елец, язь. Крупнейшие притоки: левый — Китат (90 км от устья у д.…

Robusto

@RegDwigнt How is that pronounced? Yeriyeri?

Mitch

@RegDwigнt In Germany there's a small town called Aha.

CowperKettle

I found the river

RegDwigнt

@CowperKettle well I got that bit of info from way before the Internet existed.

Mitch

which of course everyone is surprised to know

CowperKettle

17:14

Haha ))

RegDwigнt

@Robusto I can't even type the Yeri with this keyboard.

Mitch

@Robusto Get your ЯЯ's out.

Robusto

@Mitch No, Ю.

RegDwigнt

Anyway it's /ɨɨ/. Not to be confused with /ɯ⁠ɯ/, which is what they have in Turkey.

Mitch

@RegDwigнt shhh

RegDwigнt

17:18

@Mitch why are you speaking Portuguese all of a sudden?

Mitch

@RegDwigнt Carnaval of dictionaries, duh

RegDwigнt

O say can't you read.

That should be ELU's anthem.

Lyrics by Saint-Saens, music by Bieber.

Mitch

That's some red hot beaver fever

RegDwigнt

May 4 '12 at 9:46, by RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен You know, it's only 34km from Petting to Fucking, but a whopping 656km from Fucking to Wedding.

Mitch

Giardiasis

tchrist

17:23

@RegDwigнt It's been especially horrible the past few days.

Thus spake the recency illusion.

I blame being the #4 most trafficked site on the network.

Or that "English" doesn't point to ELL.

Robusto

Because everybody speaks English, right?

tchrist

In a nutshell.

And a pig's sty.

@Robusto You left out a word: wansta

Robusto

Why I don't involve myself with the site these days, mostly.

And when I do I'm punished for it.

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A: I'm looking for the spelling of the word which is pronounced [cashay]

You're looking for cachet [TFD]: cachet 1 a. Great prestige or appeal: a designer label with cachet. b. A quality of prestige or appeal: "Federal courts have a certain cachet which state courts lack" (Christian Science Monitor). c. A mark, as of distinction, individuality, or authentici...

Mitch

Robusto

No good deed ...

Mitch

17:26

You don't have to put on a red light

Robusto

Stop tweening me with your nothing comments.

tchrist

@Mitch We spell that oxen here now.

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Q: A summary of "The Face on the wall" by E.V Lucas?

Can anyone help me by giving some key points on writing A summary of "The Face on the wall" by E.V Lucas in about 200 words in simplified language.

literature

Mitch

You seem to have confused us for a site that helps people in their unethical pursuit of academic plagiarism. — tchrist ♦ 1 hour ago

nice

tchrist

That comment was posted before they edited their request.

Robusto

tchrist

17:28

It used to just read:

> A summary of "The Face on the wall" by E.V Lucas in about 200 words in simplified language.

Which isn't even a sentence.

But making it into one did nothing to improve it.

Mitch

@Robusto I say so much by saying so little

I've said too much already

Robusto

Until the single-word-request is removed from this site it will continue to be a joke.

Mitch

@tchrist and didn't really change the importance of you comment.

@Robusto Cerb already asked for a single word for that

Robusto

I think we should branch off into thesaurus.stackexchange.com.

Mitch

That's not unreasonable.

how about just thesaurus.com?

it already has all the words

plus a few more

that no one ever uses

The used key is shiny

The squeaky wheel gets the grease

Robusto

17:31

@Mitch There are no unused keys, only unopened locks.

Mitch

@Robusto That's like a metaphor for...

cake?

uneaten cake?

Robusto

It's a metaphor for figurative language.

Mitch

Unfathombable sadness?

tchrist

@Robusto B Locrian is a pretty unused key unless you're a toddler.

Mitch

(at the fact there is some cake that goes uneaten)

tchrist

17:33

But it's still not pretty.

Mitch

@tchrist Is that how those toy pianos are tuned?

Robusto

@tchrist You can't even make a New Year's resolution with the Locrian mode.

Mitch

Auld Lang Syne is in myxophrygian?

tchrist

Only with Bitters.

I had a demented triad once.

Robusto

I've heard it said that the vi-IV-I-V progression destroyed pop music. I think it was already wrecked.

tchrist

17:35

It's cold and raining here today. Very strange.

Mitch

@Robusto who uses that? Bieber?

Robusto

@tchrist Hot and dry here.

Mitch

@tchrist Isn't that usually how rainy works up in the mountains?

Robusto

Why they call it the high desert.

tchrist

@Robusto The south part of the state has been perishing of dryness.

It's been hot and dry here plenty already.

Mitch

17:36

Life is a balance

Robusto

According to Republicans, there is no such thing as climate change. So much so that they must eradicate even the term in all official documents.

Mitch

between keys and locks, shiny and dull

tchrist

Who the heck goes vi-IV-I-V? And how does that work, like Gm -> G -> D -> A ?

Mitch

the sun at noon is the sun declining

Robusto

@Mitch No quoting Springsteen in chat.

Mitch

17:37

the creature born is the creature dying

Andrew Leach

@tchrist vi is Bm.

Robusto

@tchrist No, like Am-F-C-G.

Mitch

soaps up noose

tchrist

@AndrewLeach I read iv for vi.

Which is why it was confusing.

Robusto

@tchrist Letters either mean something or they don't.

Andrew Leach

17:38

@Robusto Well, you have only to look at the site...

tchrist

They were small.

Mitch

@Robusto jibber jabber

Robusto

The Four Chords That Killed POP Music!

►

The Four Chords of the Apocalypse.

Mitch

Chords are so twentieth century

KannE

Thought for the day...If everyone received a Peer Pressure Badge for submitting to bullies, the world would be exactly the same...unless they pinned them on their jackets and walked around outside, of course; that would be bad.

Mitch

17:40

Like jazz just created all of them, and since then all the songs have covered all of them

Robusto

Bach created all the chords.

tchrist

Oh hmm looks like Peter Paul and Mary's One Tin Soldier likes IV-I-vi-V too, so the same set permuted.

Robusto

And I-vi-IV-V is a classic R&B progression.

RegDwigнt

Hey I know that thumbnail that's Rick Beato.

Dude should slow down he puts out like five videos a day.

I can't keep up.

Mitch

hip-hop doesn't bother with harmony

or melody

RegDwigнt

17:44

Rap Vs Classical Violin

►

Robusto

@Mitch They don't bother with meoldy, either.

RegDwigнt

There's a video for your prejudices, @Mitch

tchrist

@Robusto I thought blues usually featured some funky sevenths with twists.

Mitch

That's a Paga-no-no

tchrist

flat 9ths

stuff like that

Robusto

17:47

@tchrist Well, sorta. But R&B is not, strictly speaking, blues.

tchrist

@Mitch You're just parroting that.

RegDwigнt

Yeah they took blues and added rhythm.

tchrist

@Robusto ah

Robusto

Here's your classic R&B I-vi-IV-V progression:

Gene Chandler - Duke Of Earl

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Mitch

OMG violins. like cats being stepped on, slowly.

Everyone is tortured

tchrist

17:48

♫ Ain’t no rhythm to mah ♭lues

RegDwigнt

When the night has come
And the land is dark

Mitch

Stand by Your Man

Under the Boardwalk

When the Tide Comes in

tchrist

@Robusto That's about as “blue” as Frankie.

Robusto

Sometimes they substitute a ii for a V, as in "You Really Got a Hold on Me" ...

@tchrist You're getting hung up on blues as in "rhythm & blues" the way some folks get hung up on gender in grammar. It don't mean whatcha think it does.

tchrist

House is shaking with thunder again. Last time this happened and I didn't unplug my router wasn't a week ago, and it got fried. Sigh.

Robusto

17:52

Don't you have surge protectors?

Mitch

@Robusto At least I'll get my washing done

tchrist

@Robusto It wasn't a surge. It was a direct hit.

Lots of stuff fried.

Robusto

Yikes.

Sounds like you need a lightning rod.

tchrist

Surge protectors don't stop lightning, which is wrath-of-God level burn.

That's what the last surviving of three cottonwoods is there for.

Mitch

What happens when that one's gone?

Robusto

17:54

@Mitch Substitute your lies for facts.

tchrist

@Mitch More nuclear fallout.

Via your typical matter–antimatter annihilation.

Hence wrath-of-God–level burn.

Robusto

Los álamos no son buenos protectores contra rayos.

tchrist

Ni contra el viento tampoco.

nature.com/articles/nature24630

Mitch

@Robusto I thought I'd use hot water instead and now all my white shirts are pink

tchrist

> Lightning and thunderclouds are natural particle accelerators. Avalanches of relativistic runaway electrons, which develop in electric fields within thunderclouds, emit bremsstrahlung γ-rays.

Robusto

17:57

@Mitch Let it bleed.

tchrist

Here comes the hail now.

Mitch

@tchrist hides under bed

coughs

Robusto

@tchrist Hail and well met?

tchrist

Car's in the carriage, kitties under the chairs.

Mitch

Dust bunnies are also afraid of loud noises.

Robusto

17:58

@tchrist Perhaps you mean garage?

tchrist

@Robusto No, I fetched ’em first.

But any port in a storm.

Mitch

@Robusto YOu're whispering words of wisdom before swine

Robusto

No. "Let it be" is a programming construct.

Mitch

@tchrist A little bit of Sherry in my life

tchrist

@Robusto Fluid-let my butt.

Robusto

18:00

I said programming construct, not sex toy.

Mitch

@tchrist (defun it ley)

RegDwigнt

Mother Mary comes in me.

tchrist

@RegDwigнt I already quoted the Hail Mary today: et in hora mortis nostrae

Little did I know that she would return my hail.

RegDwigнt

There's a surprising amount of cars in carriages if you google for them.

tchrist

RegDwigнt

18:01

Yo dawg.

tchrist

Damn it it's still going.

RegDwigнt

@tchrist Oh I recognize that skill tree, it's from Mess Effect 3. That game sucked.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt If you think that one was bad, try ME:Andromeda.

tchrist

My car was out at the airport, uncovered, when the mega-hail smashed everybody's windshields here.

RegDwigнt

Friends don't let friends try Mass Effect: Andromeda.

tchrist

18:03

The airport is more dangerous, but this time the smashing pattern was spatially inverted.

Robusto

@tchrist Just how mega was it?

tchrist

@Robusto Three inch.

Robusto

Eeek.

RegDwigнt

That's what she said.

tchrist

Kill ya, that.

RegDwigнt

18:04

That's what he replied.

Mitch

@tchrist It spared the windshields and only dented the hoods?

tchrist

@RegDwigнt Wide not long

RegDwigнt

@tchrist how is your hail 3 inches wide but not long?

Do you live on pancake planet?

tchrist

denverpost.com/2018/06/19/colorado-hail-stone-totals-june-18

Robusto

We got more frozen precipitation recently in 20 minutes than we got all winter. In June. It freakin hailed and the ground was covered with white.

tchrist

18:05

I have a crying kitty to console.

RegDwigнt

Aw.

tchrist

@Robusto yep

I have a picture of that here somewhere.

Robusto

It was raining and I was driving my wife's car and thinking, damn, this rain is really loud in her car. Then I realized it was ice, not water.

Mitch

Like @KannE, I'm going to make like a baby and head on out.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt And since when do Google hits prove anything about language?

tchrist

18:12

Hail and well wet.

Mitch

one more:

> Remember when plastic surgery was a taboo subject?

Now you mention Botox and nobody raises an eyebrow.

Robusto

That was our entire snowfall from last winter.

Shadow thought the gods were playing tricks on him.

Færd

18:45

Do you agree with the English words?

Isn't the first one better called a wharf?

RegDwigнt

@Robusto good question, I dunno, let me google that.

Færd

I thought jetties were stronger structures that withstood strong waves and made the bank safer for boats to moor at.

RegDwigнt

So there's a paper that suggests it's since 1837.

So I guess that's your answer.

Færd

(in the video, the "jetty" floats and wobbles on the water)

@Robusto Oh sure, thanks. I almost knew about the intransitive usage.

Robusto

19:11

@RegDwigнt A. Back in 1837 they didn't fucking have cars. B. Nobody uses "carriage" and "garage" interchangeably, at least not where I come from.

RegDwigнt

4 hours ago, by RegDwigнt

@Cerberus published research also shows that most of published research is wrong.

Also they totally had cars. They just put them on tracks for some reason.

Alas, we're descendants of idiots.

Færd

19:36

Wikipedia corroborates my notion of the jetty:

Jetty

A jetty is a structure that projects from the land out into water. Often, "jetty" refers to a walkway accessing the centre of an enclosed waterbody. The term is derived from the French word jetée, "thrown", and signifies something thrown out.. == For regulating rivers == Another form of jetties, wing dams are extended out, opposite one another, from each bank of a river, at intervals, to contract a wide channel, and by concentration of the current to produce a deepening. == For berthing at docks == Where docks are given sloping sides, openwork timber jetties are generally carried across the slope...

Or maybe that's where I'd gotten my notion from in the past.

Anyways. Tiny floating wobbling stages are probably not jetties.

RegDwigнt

Say, Candy and Ronnie, have you seen them yet
Uh but they're so spaced out,
J-J-J-Jetty and the Bens.

Robusto

@RegDwigнt And car and carriage meant the same thing back then. Still do, for that matter.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto well that's what I took tchrist to mean. I pictured him putting a car into another car. Hence my yo dawg comment.

I am not familiar with carriage meaning any kind of building.

Robusto

Which was weird. But that is par for the course in this chat.

RegDwigнt

In Yerevan while waiting for my brother to fill out the paperwork for the rental car, I watched their stupid commercials on a big LED screen on one wall, and one of them literally had cars within cars within cars. And starred Joel McHale, of all people.

I'm not making this shit up.

And I can't even find it on YouTube. But apparently the company goes by the name Enterprise. They do have a couple commercials up that I saw in Armenia, and a few that I didn't that do feature Joel McHale. But not the one I'm looking for with cars within cars within cars.

Robusto

19:56

Maybe you just have dreams about Joel McHale.

RegDwigнt

And apparently the girl from the other commercials is called Kristen Bell. Whoever that is. I know I've heard the name before.

I thought she looked terrible and couldn't act. And Wiki tells me she's an actress.

The more you know.

Robusto

It's the vogue these days.

Poor acting and strikingly bad looks seem to be au courante.

RegDwigнt

@Robusto ever since I turned off my TV three years ago, I forgot Community even existed. But now that you mention it, if I ever had wet dreams about any of their cast, I could think of a couple more appealing candidates on there.

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