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12:14 AM
@Shafizadeh Etiquette? Good manners?
 
No PDA allowed in the lunch room.
 
When people touch and/or kiss each other a lot in public, that is often referred to as (a) public display of affection.
 
I wasn't sure what you were looking for.
So it seems etiquette is related to stick.
 
@Cerberus Actually I want to know is this correct? (English perspective)
 
12:19 AM
@Shafizadeh Okay, and what information do you require about this?
Your uncle is doting on your aunt in public.
It is a verbal public display of affection.
 
ok, is that a bad thing or good thing?
 
@Cerberus It normally just means a label in Spanish or Portuguese.
Like in clothing.
 
@Shafizadeh Depends on the culture, but usually it is considered bad manners or just silly.
@tchrist Yes.
Also related: stigma, instinct.
And of course ticket.
 
@Cerberus good. exactly I think so. that's kinda creepy for me
 
Yeah.
Does it help when you tell your uncle it is somewhat inappropriate or silly?
Some people just are like that.
 
12:22 AM
@Cerberus Now please tell me what I linked is correct? (English perspective)? Because I want to ask it in parenting.stackexchange.com
@Cerberus Other people don't care about that, but to be honest, their behavior bother me
 
@Shafizadeh There are a few small errors but it is clear and intelligible.
 
good, thx
 
@Shafizadeh I'm from a traditional background, and in my culture that is traditionally frowned upon.
 
"traditionally frowned upon" means a good thing or bad? (sorry I don't know English very well)
 
When you frown, you disapprove of something.
 
12:26 AM
Ah ... ok
@Cerberus Just to be clear, you are marred? and you are male? (I don't know asking that is a good thing or bad thing, if it is a bad question, sorry and I don't want you answer it)
 
I'm not married.
This is frowning. Sort of.
 
:-)
Yeah I got it
 
OK.
 
No self-portraits in this chat.
 
But you didn't post it.
No need to autoflagellate.
 
12:31 AM
It was the answer to the male question, no?
 
You know me too well.
 
@Cerberus Why would I need to whip my car into shape?
 
I know Americans are their cars, but...
 
Odd,I know English a bit, But really I cannot understand you :-) What are you talking about?
 
We were joking.
 
12:33 AM
Ah :-)
 
Tchrist suggested that I had posted a picture of myself.
 
:D
I see now
 
Of cabbages and kings, and whiskers on kittens all tied up with strings.
 
Then I suggested that it was his portrait.
Then I told him he shouldn't scold himself over that portrait of his.
Then he deliberately misinterpreted the "auto-" part as "car" instead of "self".
 
@Cerberus :D !! but please don't fight (however I don't know this is a fight or just kidding)
 
12:35 AM
All joking.
 
So ok. good
 
When we pick fights, it's not about these kinds of trivia.
 
Ah, So have you a real fight so far?
 
@Cerberus no Euglena in chat?
@Shafizadeh don't mention iPhones, that's all I ask
 
@Shafizadeh Sure.
 
12:43 AM
I didn't get it. I cannot find any related of their cell-phone with their fights
@Cerberus Ah .. seems you know each other for a long time
 
@Mitch I don't think Euglenae autoflagellate!
 
"their behavior gives me a bad feeling" OR "their behavior give me a bad feeling" ?
 
@Shafizadeh Another joke. I dislike Iphones, so if you like them, we're going to have to "fight".
@Shafizadeh Which do you think?
 
later
 
Gives is singular, give is plural.
 
12:45 AM
@Cerberus :D ... !! Why you don't like?
 
The main verb has to agree with the subject.
 
Socrates didn't end well.
 
@Cerberus Ah ok .. thx
 
So if the subject is singular, so the verb must be singular.
Is the subject singular or plural?
 
@Cerberus plural (their is plural)
 
12:46 AM
@Shafizadeh Because they are too expensive for what you get. Because Apple has a closed ecosystem.
@Shafizadeh What is the whole subject?
 
@Shafizadeh Not subject, and not always.
 
@Cerberus what? That's all they do!
 
@Cerberus "Their behaviors" ..! It is plural. because behavior has a "s" in the end
 
@Shafizadeh But you didn't write that s in your question!
 
Also, English possessive determiners match number and gender of the owner not the possession.
 
12:47 AM
oh sorry .. I missed it - I wrote it in the my real text
 
And you were correct: behaviour is not normally pluralised.
 
They have one big long whip. Actuall, the 'motor' for that whip is an example in nature or circular motion, almost literally a motor
 
So it should be their behaviour gives me a bad feeling.
 
Ah, I got it completely .. thx pal
 
These behaviors must be nipped in the spud.
 
12:48 AM
@tchrist 'I drank what?'
 
Good.
 
@tchrist Your English is hard .. I cannot understand.
 
He's making little jokes again.
frowns at Tchrist
 
:-)
What's the meaning of "nipped in the spud" ?
 
Bud.
 
12:50 AM
@Cerberus bares iPhone at @Cerberus
 
@Mitch This is a family room!!
 
hisses maniacally
 
We're all family.
 
A spud is a potato but I wanted to avoid saying butt.
 
throws sheet over Mitch
 
12:50 AM
@tchrist Ah :D
 
_struggles to get out
 
Don't get it out! Put it back in, for hell's sake.
 
has trouble finding exit
 
Why are you constantly write italic texts?
 
Uh oh.
 
12:51 AM
wonders in head who is speaking so loudly
 
Put down that colada.
 
@Shafizadeh That is a chat convention: you use italics and no full sentence (no capital and no full stop at the end) to say that you're doing something.
You're not saying it, you're doing it.
Another typical chat joke.
 
Oh ... I see
 
The capital is on your name, which is the subject.
 
So what Mitch meant to say was, "I'm hissing manically!". And then "I'm struggling to get out".
 
12:53 AM
still stuck in sheet
 
I think this room is too much for me .. All people in here are really professional in English.
 
Of the verb in the 3rd person singular.
 
struggle is too much
 
@Shafizadeh Naaah.
 
Gives up lust for life
settles for platonic friendship while hoping for more
in the life friend zone
@Shafizadeh I make absolutely no money with my speech in English_
 
12:55 AM
@Mitch Plato's friends were all gymno^Hists.
 
@Mitch You can do that in Iran by translating :-)
 
@Mitch Then perhaps you should reprofess your vocation.
 
@Shafizadeh or teaching probably
 
Yeah ...
 
@Cerberus professors get paid to speak and write
 
12:57 AM
Actually one of my dreams (which is unattainable) is talking English as a English-man by american accent.
 
Are there no mute professors?
 
@Cerberus the wise know when not to speak
 
Speaking is silver, silence is golden?
Or how does the saying go?
By the way, I think Merkel's time is up.
Her having a comedian prosecuted for insulting Erdogan has had a hugely negative impact on her popularity.
And rightly so.
 
@Cerberus omg it's been forever!
 
Yeah.
 
1:03 AM
@Cerberus I've only heard snippets. It sounds bad to me but maybe there are rules that need to be followed
 
She publicly criticised the comedian.
And she personally approved of the prosecution.
 
Is this correct?
When I tell them it is somewhat inappropriate or silly, they fret!
 
(It's weird that she had to approve of it anyway.)
@Shafizadeh Yes, if fret is really what you mean.
 
@Cerberus I mean of "fert" is "frowning", am I right?
 
Not really.
> to feel or express worry, annoyance, discontent, or the like:
Fretting about the lost ring isn't going to help.
 
1:06 AM
oh
 
What is it they do exactly?
 
@Cerberus oh. That seems .... wrong. A bit too third world to prosecute people for saying things about a leader. Worse, in another country
 
They get annoyed with you?
 
@Cerberus They don't accept my idea and show me a frowning face and say we are good
@Cerberus yes yes
 
@Mitch Yeah. They, like us, have a law saying you can't insult an allied leader.
@Shafizadeh OK then say "they get annoyed with me and refuse to change their behaviour", or something like that.
 
1:08 AM
Ah ok thx
 
What did you mean by "say we are good"?
They say that their behaviour is good?
 
They say what we are doing is not creepy.
@Cerberus yes yes
 
OK.
Oops! That was a typo.
With me.
 
Good catch.
 
1:11 AM
@Cerberus Oh ... I heard it already in movies :-) So you are really like a native
 
It is a commonly used expression.
 
You know, I can understand English, but I cannot write my point .. :-( What's wrong .. :-(
 
But you can!
 
Sorry for asking too much, this is last one. Is this correct?
Should have a couple a privacy? ?
 
I'm afraid not.
 
1:15 AM
Recognition is much easier than recall
 
@Cerberus did you get what I want to say?
@Mitch agreed
 
No.
I don't understand the question.
 
Should a couple have privacy?
 
Of course.
 
I think it has to do with this: you don't think a couple should behave like this in public, but they may do so in the privacy of their own house.
 
1:17 AM
@Cerberus That's not a question, It is a negative sentence. I want to say, I believe a couple should have a privacy for yourself(s)
@Cerberus exactly, thx (and thank you @Mitch)
 
I don't think you're using the word privacy correctly.
 
concept? or typo?
 
@Cerberus What evil fascist state prosecutes those whose words it finds offensive without a righteous revolt gopling said estado into the dust of ages?
 
@Cerberus privacy = when a wife and her husband are alone in a place. is that correct?
 
@Shafizadeh I think you're using it in a sense that is a little bit different from how it is normally used.
@Shafizadeh It can mean that, but only if you use it in the right way.
If you say, "should a couple have some privacy?", that means to me: "should a couple be allowed to have a place where nobody else can see or hear them?".
So that isn't a very logical question to ask.
 
1:20 AM
@Shafizadeh Privacy is hidden from indiscriminate public scrutiny or ridicule.
 
@Cerberus oh ... big difference than my point
@tchrist Ah I see
 
So privacy is a normally a right, it is something that you want to have. It is not something that others force you to have.
 
Owkey :-)
 
> 1. A state in which one is not observed or disturbed by other people:

she returned to the privacy of her own home

1.1 The state of being free from public attention:

a law to restrict newspapers' freedom to invade people’s privacy
 
@tchrist But that isn't enough information, that still doesn't tell you how to use it.
 
1:23 AM
> she returned to the privacy of her own home
> a law to restrict newspapers' freedom to invade people’s privacy
Does it not?
 
It doesn't tell you that she wants to have this privacy.
 
The light is low, the candle flickers.
 
That it is something people want to have, not something that someone else wants them to have for his own benefit.
 
Unless he's a peeping tom.
 
Then he doesn't really want them to have any privacy at all!
 
1:25 AM
@Cerberus Based on what I said so far, this question can be a good title?
Respecting Your Partner’s Boundaries In A Public Place
 
@Shafizadeh That would be an excellent title, but it is about this: when one partner does x, and the other partner does not want x.
 
So that's not proper for me
 
But your story about your aunt seemed to be different: your aunt did not seem to object, did she?
 
yes. may you please give me a title?
 
I'd need to know first what information you hope to get from the question!
What information do you need?
 
1:27 AM
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Q: Respecting Your Partner’s Boundaries In A Public Place

ShafizadehThere is a great and reasonable sentence: "Respect to your wife, express your feeling to her and make her happy." Ok, All fine. But is there any difference between expressing your feeling to your wife in a public and private place? Actually I have a newly married aunt. My aunt's husband alway...

 
What do you want people to tell you?
OK let me read it.
 
thx
 
You shouldn't capitalize those particular instances of "in" or "a" there in that title. English is weird.
 
:-) !!!!!
 
I think your title is about a different problem than your actual question.
And I have a question: is this really about parenting?
 
1:29 AM
Public displays of affection are acts of physical intimacy in the view of others. What is an acceptable display of affection varies with respect to culture and context. Displays of affection in a public place, such as the street, are more likely to be objected to, than similar practices in a private place with only people from a similar cultural background present. Some organizations have rules limiting or prohibiting public displays of affection. Physical affection has been defined as "any touch intended to arouse feelings of love in the giver and/or the recipient." == HistoricalEdit == ��2�...
@Cerberus I was wondering the same.
 
You're not talking about your aunt and uncle as parents, are you?
 
@tchrist very good reference ...
 
Except for the Unicode boogers.
 
@Cerberus no, I think partner isn't a good word
 
I don't think privacy is always what you want. It can be the state you're in, or the state someone else wants you to be in.
 
1:30 AM
Parenting means: how people behave towards their children.
It needs to be about them and their children.
 
@Cerberus ok, just please give me a title :-)
 
> Is it proper behaviour to dote on one's partner in public?
 
ah ok thx
 
But I still don't think that question is about parenting!
Parent ≠ partner
 
Doting sounds very ... Old fashioned
 
1:32 AM
That's because you're in your dotage.
 
@Cerberus yes, my question isn't about parenting. it is about partner
 
Parenting or child rearing is the process of promoting and supporting the physical, emotional, social, financial, and intellectual development of a child from infancy to adulthood. Parenting refers to the aspects of raising a child aside from the biological relationship. The most common caretaker in parenting is the biological parent(s) of the child in question, although others may be an older sibling, a grandparent, a legal guardian, aunt, uncle or other family member, or a family friend. Governments and society may have a role in child-rearing as well. In many cases, orphaned or abandoned children...
 
Seldom shall you see a word so fine.
 
I deserve it
 
@Shafizadeh Then is "Parenting" the right SE site to ask about this?
@Mitch Then what do you propose?
 
1:34 AM
@Cerberus I didn't fine any better website. (parenting is more related to my question than other websites)
 
I don't know, they might close it!
 
Ever and anon a proposal is made for a dating.se site, and even and again does it go down to Tartarus again whence it originated.
 
@tchrist Curious how stupidity evolved to mean showing affection.
 
@Cerberus I hope not so!
 
@Færd Profound observation.
 
1:35 AM
Steak tartare does look like it has been chewed already
 
Let's hope not!
 
:-)
 
Let us not hope.
Wait, is that the same thing?
 
It's all about hope and scope.
 
@Cerberus doting sounds like you're bringing her tea. And a pillow. And a blanket. Can I get you anything else? Should I turn up the radio? Or turn it down?
I'm thinking of an alternative...
Being .... something
 
1:39 AM
Well, that is what he is actually doing, it seems.
 
Overly affectionate
 
@Shafizadeh I don't think you shall get "an" answer to this. I've been to some places where even holding hands is inappropriate and to others where even intercourse is not inappropriate.
 
Oh I thought the new husband was saying embarrassingly affectionate things
Not actually doing things
 
@Mitch Turn up your hearing aid.
 
@tchrist I hope get at least one answer. because my intend of asking that question is sending the link of that question to my aunt ant tell her other people are agree with me
 
1:41 AM
That's not going to help.
Sorry, but I believe this to be true.
 
Well I don't know what should I say ..! Ok let's see what happens
 
I agree with you, except if he only does that occasionally. If he does it all the time, it's annoying.
 
he does it all the time
 
Then I agree with you.
 
and his behaviors seems like feint
 
1:44 AM
On the other hand, do you really want to have a fight about this?
Feint?
 
@Cerberus Glad to hear that
 
Fake?
 
Your aunt may not be happy that you're asking in public about something you think is a private problem
 
Disingenuous?
 
@Cerberus pretence
 
1:44 AM
OK.
So you think in reality he doesn't like her very much?
 
@Mitch Maybe !
@Cerberus exactly, I think he don't like my aunt very much in reality and just he tells those speak for us
 
Do you think he is mean to her when they are alone?
Have you talked to your parents about this?
 
It seems like extreme things to say just for show
They just got married? In the past couple months?
 
@Cerberus yes, my family are agree with me. But no, he isn't mean with her when they are alone. but they don't have a great lovely relationship as pretend
@Mitch in past couple weeks :-)
 
@Shafizadeh Maybe he is trying to make their marriage seem happy because he is ashamed about their unhappiness/problems?
Or maybe he wants to save your aunt from dishonour?
 
1:49 AM
Was it arranged by the parents?
 
@Cerberus I believe so .. I believe he thinks he is low than our family and try to grow up his personality against us
@Mitch yes. All marriages are done by family in my country. A boy/girl cannot get marry o by yourself
 
@Shafizadeh That seems unwise: that just leads to boys marrying boys and girls marrying girls rather than vice versa. :)
 
@tchrist Not true either.
 
@tchrist to be honest I don't get your mean, but in my country marrying of two same sex isn't acceptable
 
@Shafizadeh do you think it is just ta'arof, being extra polite?
 
1:55 AM
@Mitch OMG, ta'arof is a English word? it is also a Persian word
 
@Færd Well, if you can't marry a girl and you can't marry a boy, that will just lead to frolicking.
 
@Shafizadeh That's not the case in my country, and we're living in the same country. ;)
 
@Shafizadeh Apparently marrying of opposing sex is also unacceptable. Perhaps you should reinvent marriage? :)
 
@Mitch no it isn't ta'arof. I think he try to tell us our relationship is better than everyone and we are very lucky
 
@tchrist I meant not wise, and not true.
 
1:56 AM
@Shafizadeh it is not at all an English word. Other Persians have been here before and discussed it.
 
@Færd Where are you from?
 
@Færd Can you get laughing gas in your country?
 
@Shafizadeh At least he is doing his best to be nice?
 
yeah
 
@tchrist I don't know. I never needed it.
@Shafizadeh I live in Tehran.
 
1:58 AM
@Færd !!! chera nemigi pas :P
@Færd inja chi kar mikoni? zabanet khoobe?
 
@Færd Your absence of laughter seems to belie that point. :/
 
@Shafizadeh and he spends time mostly with your aunt's family and not his family?
 
Please don't pith the joke.
 
@Mitch look, he is kinda slave of my aunt :-)
 

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