English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

00:10

I didn't even have to scroll all the way up to know what song you were talking about. It's a good song.

Cerberus

Yeah.

How the phone holding up?

Shafizadeh

00:38

What's the meaning of "up top"? (I think it meas kick your hand to my hand, because we won, am I right?)

Cerberus

@Shafizadeh Can you give us a sentence?

It generally means "at the top, on top".

@Shafizadeh I believe it can mean that, yes.

Like a high-five.

Shafizadeh

"we won them buddy up top"

@Cerberus yes exactly

Cerberus

Ah, yes.

He should have added a comma.

Or a full stop.

Shafizadeh

Ah

Cerberus

And he should have said "beat" or "defeat", because "win" takes a thing as an object, not the opponent.

> We beat them, buddy. Up top!

Something like that.

Shafizadeh

00:45

I see

Cerberus

Perhaps it's slang. Or he isn't a native speaker.

Shafizadeh

Yeah he was Indian (I seen him in movie)

Cerberus

Ah OK.

Anonymous

I guess I can imagine a context where them in We won them, buddy! refers to an object: We won the prizes, buddy!

Cerberus

Oh, yes, that's possible.

Or if the prize is a pair of slaves.

Shafizadeh

00:49

Let me ask, English is your native language? @Cerberus and @snailboat

You seems vary expert in English

Cerberus

Nope.

I believe it is Snailboat's.

Shafizadeh

Ah, so good for you

Anonymous

Yes, I'm a native speaker of American English.

Anonymous

I think Cerberus has honorary native speaker status.

Shafizadeh

:-)

@snailboat So you speak English with your family? and your friend? You know, that's one of my dreams.

Friends *

Anonymous

00:52

Yes, I speak English on a daily basis.

Anonymous

I don't get to speak with my family too often, but when I do it's in English :-)

Shafizadeh

:-)

How old are you?

Anonymous

I'm 34.

Shafizadeh

good

you also know Japanese ?

Anonymous

Thanks, I worked hard on getting to 34 :-) I spent about 34 years on it.

Anonymous

00:54

@Shafizadeh I've been learning Japanese for about 18 years or so.

Shafizadeh

:D

Anonymous

Or is it 19 now? I keep forgetting to increment.

Anonymous

Maybe I should start telling people when I started learning so I don't have to do arithmetic.

Shafizadeh

@snailboat Ah, you studying is about languages? (I mean you have learned it in collage?)

Anonymous

I never studied Japanese in school, but I did study language and linguistics.

Anonymous

00:56

I took French and Spanish in school.

Anonymous

Did studied? Nice editing error there, snailboat.

Shafizadeh

OH ... how many language do you know ..! good for you

Where are you living now?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus the 5X? it's fine.

Anonymous

I'm always reluctant to say I "know" any language other than English. Instead, I always say I'm learning them. :-)

Anonymous

I live in the United States. California, to be specific.

Shafizadeh

00:57

Ah .. alrigh

Anonymous

@Shafizadeh I like terms for high fives. They're colorful! I don't really know anyone who uses them in real life, but I learned a bunch of them from fiction.

Anonymous

Up top! (high five way over your head)

Anonymous

On the down low! (well, use your imagination :-)

Hanii Puppy

Even if you're a native English speaker, you're still always learning the language :P

Anonymous

Well, sure.

Hanii Puppy

01:00

But on learning a new language, I'd like to offer you my most enthusiastic contrafibularities.

Anonymous

There's this idealization of the native speaker as someone who acquires their own language perfectly from birth, but in reality we're all exposed to different subsets of the language as we go through life, and we each develop our own personal version of the language.

Anonymous

And everyone we interact with and learn from has their own personal version of the language, too.

Anonymous

We influence each other and learn from each other. Spend time around someone, and you tend to start talking like them. We soak up language like sponges :-)

Anonymous

And language is always changing, so we have to keep adapting to that. The English I speak now is not the English I spoke when I was five years old.

Anonymous

@HaniiPuppy Contrafibularities! Now there's a word!

Anonymous

01:02

Now where's that dictionary . . . ? :-)

Anonymous

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Anonymous

OneLook links only to Wikipedia for that term, and Wikipedia redirects to this page without explanation. I guess it was a nonce-word in an episode of Blackadder? :-)

Anonymous

Sadly, I haven't seen an awful lot of TV shows.

Hanii Puppy

I thought you were actually referring to Blackadder with "where's that dictionary" :P youtube.com/watch?v=hOSYiT2iG08

Shafizadeh

@snailboat :-)

Anonymous

01:08

Ooh, pericombobulation! :-)

user204373

Good evening folks

Hanii Puppy

Morning o/

user204373

wow this room never sleeps

Cerberus

@HaniiPuppy Why are you against hairpins??

angry faces

Hanii Puppy

o-o?

Cerberus

01:13

A fibula is a hairpin. Or any kind of pin.

Fibula (brooch)

A fibula (/ˈfɪbjʊlə/, plural fibulae /ˈfɪbjʊli/) is a brooch or pin for fastening garments. The fibula developed in a variety of shapes, but all were based on the safety-pin principle. Technically, the Latin term, fibulae, refers to Roman brooches; however, the term is widely used to refer to brooches from the entire ancient and early medieval world that continue Roman forms. Nevertheless, its use in English is more restricted than in other languages, and in particular post-Roman brooches from the British Isles are just called brooches (for example, the penannular brooches), where in German they...

user204373

Ok I am heading to my nest. Farewell!

Cerberus

It's actually for clothing, I knew that.

Sleep well.

Hanii Puppy

night o/

I'm not sure which answer to mark as the correct one :X Almost all of them are helpful, and all of them seem to get quite close, but none seem to be hitting the nail on the head. english.stackexchange.com/questions/320546/…

And I don't want to feel like a backside oriface by not giving at least someone the correct answer points.

Anonymous

I dunno. You might be better off asking what the most natural way to express the idea is.

Anonymous

I suppose I like contemporary as an answer, assuming you're willing to use the word the right way.

Shafizadeh

01:17

@snailboat As a note, "dunno" means "I don't know", So you don't need to write "I" before "dunno" ;-) !! (of course I know, you know English more and more and more than me)

Anonymous

@Shafizadeh Yes, but I can if I want to. :-)

Hanii Puppy

But contemporary has to be contemporary with something, defaulting to the present.

Shafizadeh

:-)

Anonymous

Dunno is an example of left-edge deletion: I dunno.

Anonymous

Hmm, that strikethrough isn't really clear.

Anonymous

01:18

[I] dunno.

Anonymous

We tend to call it Conversational Deletion here on EL&U, so if you look that up you can find some more information. Linguists have given it a bunch of different names, though.

Anonymous

"Left-edge deletion" is just a basic description of what happens: words or syllables are removed from the left edge of the utterance, typically predictable function words.

Shafizadeh

Good explanations

Anonymous

I is a pronoun, considered a kind of function word for the purposes of this discussion, and it's generally predictable, so we can get rid of it: Dunno.

Anonymous

You can do the same with all sorts of other utterances, but it's always optional.

Hanii Puppy

01:21

It's great for writing, if you want to make whether someone's talking about them and the group they're in, or just themself, vague.

Anonymous

@HaniiPuppy Well, like I said, "assuming you're willing to use the word the right way".

Anonymous

You can't square peg round hole it.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Unless you were on board Apollo 13. :P

Anonymous

Good point :-)

Damkerng T.

Personally, I like temporary.

Hanii Puppy

01:29

Using the word "the right way" can change the meaning of what I'm saying if it's not the right word, not what I'm trying to say. "Pasties and whelks are somewhat regional things." "goldfish-shoes and trench warfare are somewhat contemporary things."

Anonymous

Well, you're left with a problem without a solution.

Anonymous

You're free not to change the problem, if you like.

Anonymous

I guess I can see what you're asking, and none of the answers really fit.

Anonymous

So it's probably the wrong question to ask.

Hanii Puppy

"The wrong question to ask" was usually what my college lecturers used to say before going off on a tangent, answering a completely different question no-one asked that I may or may not already know the answer to, leaving me nothing but frustrated and just as answerless as I was before. Saying that a question is "The wrong question to ask" only ever felt like a cop-out to me.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

01:39

There may not be a good word that hits the nail on the head. In that case, don't accept any answer that suggests a word: the best answer would be "there is no word". Of course, it's hard to prove a non-existence.

Feel free to upvote any answers you like even if they're not quite there.

Hanii Puppy

I'd kinda feel like a backside though, if I didn't give someone the correct answer points ^^;

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

well... if the answers aren't correct...

Damkerng T.

@HaniiPuppy Ignoring the bureaucracy of an answer that vaguely pertains to the question could land you in a political office someday. :P

Hanii Puppy

xD

Cerberus

@HaniiPuppy I agree: many good answers, impossible to choose.

Hanii Puppy

01:49

As long as you hope you don't come up against Jeremy Paxman.

Cerberus

But, to be honest, I think your question is not 100% clear.

Perhaps because you're not 100% sure what you're looking for.

Because the sentence with the blank that you propose seems unrealistic.

Damkerng T.

@HaniiPuppy xD

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Isn't it looking for a word that describes things restricted to a certain time, the way some things are spatially-restricted to a specific region?

Hanii Puppy

I asked that question specifically because I was talking to someone and wanted to describe something as being sorta-regional-but-for-time, and had to stop the sentence midway through because I didn't know the word.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Like, "pop vs soda" is a regional thing. "thou vs you" is a timey-wimey thing.

Hanii Puppy

01:52

In the specific example that prompted me to ask the question, I was talking about architecture.

Cerberus

I think it makes less sense to say something is related to a specific period of time, perhaps because almost everything is.

And, if you really must express that something is not universal throughout all time, you're always talking about something that belongs to a certain time in the past, so you would just say historical or something.

@HaniiPuppy Old-fashioned? Historical? Out of date?

Hanii Puppy

"historical" suggests in the past though, and not limiting it in the way that "regional" does. Saying something's "historical" would be more like saying it's "east of here" than "regional".

Cerberus

By the way, perhaps you might want to add the context of your question, your discussion about architecture, to your question.

@HaniiPuppy Yes, but what is there is no real west, not in a realistic situation? Then it makes sense to only use east as a direction.

Something is either limited to the present (modern, present-time, perhaps even contemporary, etc.), or to some time in the past (historical, etc.).

Hanii Puppy

Then saying something's "east of here" rather than "regional" becomes even more useless, because all it means then is "Everywhere except right here."

Cerberus

It doesn't necessarily mean "everything except right here": it can mean "some place that isn't here".

Hanii Puppy

02:00

But it doesn't convey any meaning, except "not here".

Cerberus

I understand why you were looking for this word, of course.

Hanii Puppy

"Food varies from place to place, it's very regional" "Food varies from place to place, it's everywhere except here"

Cerberus

I'm just saying historical and modern serve in that function with respect to time.

Hanii Puppy

Just makes me sound hungry :P

Cerberus

Haha.

Lawrence

03:35

@KitZ.Fox Just curious - was the use of the word posing intentional? It's an interesting way to describe the action of typing on a keyboard.

skill patrol

03:47

I think "posting" makes more sense @Lawrence

Lawrence

@skillpatrol I considered it, but "respond to posting" doesn't relate to the physical action, unless it's to do with keyboard feet - but then it's not a response. No relevant words come quickly to mind that become posing via typos (auto-correct doesn't count because that can come from any sequence of characters), hence my question to Kit Z. Fox.

skill patrol

@Lawrence pardon my comment :-)

Lawrence

Quite the contrary; thanks for prompting the clarification! :)

skill patrol

hi @Cerberus

Lawrence

04:03

@HaniiPuppy If none of the contributions quite answers your question, the usual advice is to edit the question to clarify what you're after. In this case, however, the question seems clear enough. There's no obligation to assign a green tick when there isn't a fully-satisfactory answer posted (yet).

@snailboat If you're looking for another term, try answer ellipsis.

Answer ellipsis

Answer ellipsis (= answer fragments) is a type of ellipsis that occurs in answers to questions. Answer ellipsis appears very frequently in any dialogue, and it is present in probably all languages. Of the types of ellipsis mechanisms, answer fragments behave most like sluicing, a point that shall be illustrated below. == Examples == Standard instances of answer ellipsis occur in answers to questions. A question is posed, and the answer is formulated in such a manner to be maximally efficient. Just the constituent that is focused by the question word is uttered. The elided material in the examples...

@HaniiPuppy Consider period - period costume, period architecture, etc. You can also say period-specific - something can be regional (peculiar to a recognised place) and period-specific (peculiar to a recognised time).

Anonymous

@Lawrence The problem is that your term describes something else entirely.

Lawrence

06:40

@snailboat I thought you were referring to the truncation of the answer "I dunno" to just "dunno". Why isn't this answer ellipsis?

crl

07:02

this is an ellip...

skill patrol

07:34

...sis

Anonymous

10:03

@Lawrence For the same reason Going home early? isn't answer ellipsis. Being an answer has nothing to do with it. I can discuss the characteristics in more detail later if you like.

Matt E. Эллен

@KitZ.Fox OK :D

@Mitch I think you'll find it's spelt jyrk

Lawrence

@snailboat Thank you, yes please. On "<strike>Are you</strike> going home early?", that's not an answer, so can't be answer ellipsis. If you're arguing that it isn't ellipsis either, I'm puzzled.

@crl and @skillpatrol: same name, different kind.

Matt E. Эллен

@Lawrence Judging by the wiki page, I think dunno doesn't fall into specifically answer ellipsis because I is a full constituent unit of the sentence, but answer ellipsis removes non-constituent units

so in answering "why didn't you go to school today?", "ill" is answer ellipsis, as "I was" is a non-constituent unit, but "was ill" isn't answer ellipsis, because "I" is a constituent unit

Anonymous

Answer ellipsis isn't a general term for all sorts of ellipsis that could possibly apply to an answer.

Anonymous

I gave you an example of left-edge deletion (really a phonological operation rather than ellipsis, strictly speaking) in a non-answer to show that the operation applies to both answers and non-answers, so it can't be an answer-specific kind of ellipsis.

Lawrence

10:17

@MattE.Эллен Interesting. I hadn't considered that.

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

Is the plural of ellipsis ellipses ?

Anonymous

For discussion, you may want to start by reading Left-edge deletion in English and subject omission in diaries (Weir 2012), which contrasts two similar operations.

Anonymous

@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ Yes, but in this use ellipsis is non-count.

Anonymous

You may know the other phenomenon discussed in the paper by the name "diary drop".

Lawrence

@snailboat Aside from MattE.Эллен's note regarding constitutional units, couldn't it be both left-edge deletion and ellipsis?

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

10:20

This conversation is full of ellipses :D

Anonymous

@Lawrence Well, you can analyze most cases as ellipsis, but that breaks down when you encounter examples that delete parts of words.

Lawrence

@snailboat I don't have access to this paper, just the abstract.

Anonymous

Just a moment.

Anonymous

I uploaded my copy: Left-edge deletion in English and subject omission in diaries (Weir 2012)

Lawrence

@snailboat Inserting the link directly into the browser works :) .

Anonymous

10:24

Oh, okay.

Lawrence

Clicking on the pdf looked like it was going somewhere, but just left the page as it was.

Reading now.

@snailboat Both links get me to same PDF document. Inserting the listed URL from the PDF document directly into the browser gets me to the abstract on a pay-wall. ...

johnchae

Hello

:D

Anonymous

Good evening!

Anonymous

(Morning for me :-)

johnchae

Hey @snailboat

Afternoon where I live ^^

I just finished my transcription for a movie, it only took me around 20 hours for that 1h40' long :P

Anonymous

10:32

Wow! Great job :-)

johnchae

Thank you ^^

Anonymous

What time is it there? It's very early in the morning here.

johnchae

It's 5:30 Pm here

Btw, @snailboat, which one do you prefer: Transcript or Transcription?

In the context above?

Lawrence

(cont'd) Based on the abstract, it seems that left-edge deletion, diary drops (subject omission) and ellipsis are three different things. Given a piece of text, it's possible for all 3 to apply while still being semantically different. By analogy, one could answer the question "What do you see?" with Light, My stuff, and matter, but even when they all apply, they're all completely different. I now understand your earlier point about left-edge deletion and ellipsis being different things.

Anonymous

I suppose they both work, although I think of is more common than for.

Anonymous

10:37

I'd probably say transcription of, but I don't mean to say the alternatives are wrong.

Anonymous

I think linguists tend to say transcription more than transcript when referring to writing down what they hear, but transcript is probably more common in general use.

johnchae

Thank you @snailboat, I always used 'for', but thanks for pointing that out, I will keep that in mind.

Anonymous

If you'll take a look at this corpus search: corpus.byu.edu/coca/?c=coca&q=47086306

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Anonymous

You can see how transcript and transcription are used, and how of and for are used.

Anonymous

You can click each of the four results on the upper-right portion to see a list of examples for each one, which will show up in the lower-right portion. Then you can click these results individually to see the full context for each.

Anonymous

10:43

As you can see, people do use for, but when they do they usually aren't using it to indicate what was being transcribed.

johnchae

Wow, thank you, I never knew this site before, to check which word is more used frequently I always used Google and then compared the results. But now that that I know the site, it'd help me a lot then. Thank you.

Kit Z. Fox

@Lawrence it was a typo for pressing.

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

Aha!

Anonymous

@johnchae COCA is a balanced corpus of American English, 80% written and 20% spoken (spontaneous speech). There are a number of other corpora you can use with other characteristics, and you can find many of them on corpus.byu.edu

Anonymous

I tend to check COCA before any other corpus because it's quite large (though obviously much smaller than Google Search!). For British English I recommend the British National Corpus, though it is slightly older and somewhat smaller.

Anonymous

10:48

I don't recommend treating Google Search as a corpus, as they've never attempted to make their search result estimates particularly accurate, and you can't look at the actual data.

Anonymous

Google Books Ngram Viewer is also a powerful tool and the Google Books corpus is much larger than COCA, but it has a lot of flaws that make it difficult to recommend.

johnchae

Got it, thank you!

Lawrence

@KitZ.Fox Thanks for solving that mystery. :)

johnchae

11:16

"Althought the number of orders... on a daily basis, we have been enjoying a steady increase in sales over the last six months". I would use "varies" to fill out the blank, but I see many other choose "have varies" to match the perfect tense with the latter phrase? So which one is correct, guys?

Anonymous

Did you mean to type has varied?

johnchae

Oh yes, sorry, it should have been "has varied".

Anonymous

They both seem grammatical to me.

RegDwigнt

Dear Australia,
WTF is wrong with you.
Sincerely, World.

johnchae

@snailboat Thank you!

RegDwigнt

11:31

Oh, the coin actually says Tuvalu. Unlike the website for professional coin collectors I have the image from.

Hm. Okay, lemme reword

Dear Australia,
WTF is wrong with you that people can't tell you from Tuvalu.
Sincerely, World.

Mitch

11:43

@MattE.Эллен That's exactly what someone who is confused with me would say.

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch Mitchs: can't be confused with them, can't be confused without them

Mitch

That's confusing me, which is no hard thing to do

Shafizadeh

Does "holy crap" mean "oh my god"?

Mitch

11:58

Yes, in the vague sense of surprise

But not surprise like in someone jumping out from behind a bush to scare you

More like "I can't believe this thing I just heard"

Shafizadeh

Ah ok thx

Mitch

@Shafizadeh but like with all synonyms, that doesn't mean you can just replace one with the other whenever

Shafizadeh

Yeah I know

Mitch

'Holy crap' is more vulgar than 'oh my god'

Shafizadeh

12:14

Ah. Also "holy crap" has a "bad feeling about sth" with along itself.

Mitch

Holy crap is not as vulgar as holy shit but is in that direction.

@Shafizadeh I'm not sure. What situation are you thinking of?

Shafizadeh

Actually I seen it in movies, when people have a bad feeling plus surprising, they say "holy crap"

Mitch

No, it doesn't really have the idea of 'I have a bad feeling about this'. More like 'I have been inconvenienced'

Shafizadeh

ow, I see

and one thing else, there is a sentence made of two words which means "what you said is right". I cannot remember it, it is something like "it so". Anybody knows what's that?

Cerberus

12:32

Quite so.

Indeed.

You're right.

Lawrence

12:54

@Shafizadeh Probably not; you'd be well advised to confirm if that really is what the person worships.

@Shafizadeh Cerberus is quite right. There's also the Japanese so so, not to be confused with so-so.

@Shafizadeh Perhaps you were thinking of "so it is", though I think the alternate "it's so" isn't as common.

@Shafizadeh How did your hill starts go?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

13:24

@RegDwigнt Tuvalu gets their coin minted in Australia.

tchrist

13:54

@RegDwigнt Fairy gold turns to dross come the morning.

Mitch

14:48

And if you let dross sit out too long in the sun... ewww.

dexys midnight runners come on eileen

►

"tu va loo va loo va loo vye yay!"

MετάEd

15:05

Oh, dear, look what I stepped in.

Gigili

15:42

Hillo

What is the meaning of First line supervisor personal care workers?

Or First line supervisor anything, actually

MετάEd

@Gigili businessdictionary.com/definition/first-line-manager.html

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

first line means what you use first.

hm, I guess first line supervisors is a slightly different sense of first line

Gigili

hmm, OK Thanks

pfft, now that I know what it actually means, I should find a term for it in the target language

Shafizadeh

16:33

@Lawrence thx for your explanations

@Cerberus I think I was looking for this, thx

Keep these mind

Ola

MετάEd

17:23

@Keepthesemind Olé. Ώπα.

crl

18:06

@MετάEd a dog poop?

MετάEd

@crl A holy crap. So maybe a god poop.

crl

a go(o)d sign then

MετάEd

@crl Well, bird poop is lucky in Italy when it steps on you.

crl

free sun cream

MετάEd

@crl Free hair tonic.

Kit Z. Fox

18:19

Free hair tonic? How can I lose?

MετάEd

@KitZ.Fox You could lose your hair, I suppose.

Kit Z. Fox

You say that like it's a bad thing.

crl

hair is somewhat the fruit of evolution to protect the top of the head, maybe, well all hair has the purpose of holding heat, protecting a bit, I'm saying shit..

SmokeDetector

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Kit Z. Fox

@MattE.Эллен I commented on a question while you were deleting a bunch of comments. Awkward. :D

Matt E. Эллен

18:33

@KitZ.Fox d'oh! sorry :D did you get caught in the purge?

Kit Z. Fox

No. Now there's just my comment there.

Matt E. Эллен

an answer in a comment!

Kit Z. Fox

Meh.

I don't care if you want to delete it too.

Matt E. Эллен

I'll leave it then! howja like them apples?

Kit Z. Fox

haha ok.

Mitch

19:28

I put comments in answers

Gigili

I post my questions as answers

I walk like a duck

Shafizadeh

"pv football" means "football for children" ?

Mitch

@Gigili if you also talk like a duck and look like a duck, then I have some uncomfortable news for you.

@Shafizadeh needs context

Gigili

@Mitch Like a highly contagious intestinal disease that can be found in ducks?

Mitch

Peewee football is for children. Peewee means it is for smaller children. Possible formed from 'wee' which is Scottish dialect for 'tiny'

@Gigili that is certainly uncomfortable, but not exactly the news I was thinking of.

Also probably not treatable by antibiotics

Unless...

No. Mankind is not ready for things like that

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

19:44

Is womankind ready?

Matt E. Эллен

or manunkind

Mitch

I don't know. Somebody ask them.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

What about duckkind

Mitch

they're probably too ready. That's also an uncomfortable realization.

Gigili

People, we've talked about this

Mitch

19:46

Ducks, we haven't

Matt E. Эллен

Quack quack quack

Mitch

ducks

Matt E. Эллен

swans

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен how dare you

flickers

Matt E. Эллен

I'm not a duck, so I don't fear the repercussions

duck society has always shunned me

Mitch

19:47

I'm not a lot of things. Most in fact

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

honk

Mitch

Look where you're going pal

Matt E. Эллен

careful or he'll (Canadian) goose you

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

They're called Canada geese. scoffs

Mitch

St nitouche. Scaramouche.

Somethety something go take a douche

I fear the reapercussions

Baby take my hand

Ok can I have it back now?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

19:53

I'm not sure you remember the words to the song properly.

Matt E. Эллен

:D

Gigili

He began suffering from Alzheimer's when in his 90s

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the fandango?

Mitch

Bismillah nah!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

whines make him sing it right!

Mitch

19:58

Galileo should be concerned about letting himself go.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Beelzebub has a devil set aside for you

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 where I come from they don't need the right words.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 what? I never knew what they were saying.

Now I'm a little peeved. Why don't I get beelzebub himself?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

The devil nazi says "No beelzebub for you. come back one year."

skill patrol

Thunder bolt^ and lighting very very freighting

does thunder come in "bolts"?

lightening does

Mitch

Shortening comes in canisters or sticks

Shortening is not lightening

More fattening

skill patrol

20:10

a flash of lightning with a simultaneous crash of thunder.
a supposed bolt or shaft believed to be the destructive agent in a lightning flash, especially as an attribute of a god such as Jupiter or Thor.
used in similes and comparisons to refer to a very sudden or unexpected event or item of news, especially of an unpleasant nature.

Mitch

And not flattering or flattening

Coup de foudre is not unpleasant

Depends on who gets hit

skill patrol

thunderclap = clap of thunder

Mitch

I'm not sure I follow. That makes too much sense

Also it means 'love at first sight' but with a little more dramatic effect with all the lightning and stuff.

skill patrol

thunder comes in claps, lightening comes in bolts

when the two are simultaneous you get a thunderbolt

the concept of simultaneity is so deeply ingrained in our thoughts

no wonder people find relativity tough to understand

Mitch

Also seeing shoots out of our eyes, it's not light coming into our eyes

skill patrol

20:23

good point

~~good~~ excellent

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch eyes shoots and leaves

Mitch

You forgot a comma

Matt E. Эллен

,

Mitch

Thank you

Wait...have we had this conversation already?

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch so do radiators suck cold into themselves, leaving only warmth in the room?

@Mitch this chat room contains everything in the universe, including itself

Mitch

20:27

ponders

That's how electricity works, right? Or at least in semiconductors

skill patrol

here; have half a colon

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch with holes?

Mitch

Please tell me that's well done.

@MattE.Эллен yeah something like that. Gravity should work the same way

skill patrol

well done

Mitch

Holes move away from matter

Matt E. Эллен

20:29

@Mitch I'll have a word with the subcommittee

MετάEd

@MattE.Эллен You might try a subtext, or perhaps a subliminal subvocalization.

Matt E. Эллен

@MετάEd I tried the latter but it felt like nobody heard me

Mitch

@skillpatrol adds steak sauce anyway

MετάEd

@MattE.Эллен They're not subposed to.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен they figured you would say something like that

So they preemptively took action

Anonymous

20:34

@skillpatrol not a colonː half a not-a-colonˑ

skill patrol

half empty?

Matt E. Эллен

a quarter colon,

skill patrol

or half not-full

a quarter not-full

Matt E. Эллен

can you guess what it is;

Anonymous

∷

skill patrol

20:38

this could go on forever...

Mitch

Probably will

You failed to respond just to prove me wrong

MετάEd

@snailboat "Half a colon, philosophically, must, ipso facto, half not colon." Nope, doesn't work.

@snailboat "A semicolon, philosophically, must, ipso facto, half not colon." Doesn't work either.

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Kit Z. Fox

23:05

Here I am, baby / signed, sealed, delivered / I'm yours

I just introduced my boys to some soulful funk. The littlest took to it like water.

Shafizadeh

23:33

I'm trying to find a reference about following subject, but I cannot find anything, can anybody?

subject: don't express your feeling about your spouse in a public place and keep a privacy for yourself(s)

I mean "don't express your feeling more than enough ... "

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