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Matt Эллен

16:00

maybe, I'm not sure it's a hobby item specifically

no, I think hobby is the wrong word

Kitḫ

Was it a vehicle?

Matt Эллен

no

Kitḫ

Was it a tool?

Matt Эллен

for some people, but not him

Kitḫ

Was it a sporting good?

z7sg Ѫ

16:01

these days it's something only used for fun

Kitḫ

A boomerang?

Matt Эллен

yes!

z7sg Ѫ

yay

Matt Эллен

woohoo!

Kitḫ

So he accidentally killed himself with a boomerang?

Matt Эллен

16:02

yeah

Kitḫ

Because he was distracted by the car backfiring?

Matt Эллен

yep

Kitḫ

Awkward.

Matt Эллен

:D

Not something you'd want to admit to your dead friends

Kitḫ

No kidding.

So @Rob? Do you still want to play?

Hmm. Anyone else?

Matt Эллен

16:07

on topic for a sec: I really want to close this

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Q: Word for almost black and almost white

Or, a word for really dark grey or really light grey.

single-word-requests

it's just such an utterly dull question.

I can't think of a reason

Kitḫ

Too localized?

Matt Эллен

hmmmm. possibly

Kitḫ

I NARQed it.

Matt Эллен

ooo! gen ref

Grey

Grey or gray is an achromatic or neutral color. Complementary colors are defined to mix to grey, either additively or subtractively, and many color models place complements opposite each other in a color wheel. To produce grey in RGB displays, the R, G, and B primary light sources are combined in proportions equal to that of the white point. In four-color printing, greys are produced either by the black channel, or by an approximately equal combination of CMY primaries. Images which consist wholly of neutral colors are called monochrome, black-and-white or greyscale. The first record...

Kitḫ

There's no effort there and no justification for needing the word.

Per @JSB's guidelines, this doesn't meet the criteria for a single-word-request

Matt Эллен

16:10

good point

JSBᾶngs

@Kitḫ it's a terrible question. i vote to close.

Kitḫ

16:24

ahem

Matt Эллен

aseam

I guess we can go back to our incomprehensible normality. Did someone have a mystery?

Kitḫ

Didn't you?

Matt Эллен

it was solved

by you!

and Sherlock Holmes

Kitḫ

Hmm. I am binding data. I'll think of a mystery in a minute.

Matt Эллен

I must away to my castle. Chat l8r!

Kitḫ

16:33

Oh my.

DForck42

just fyi

Kitḫ

We have an illustrious guest.

DForck42

6

Q: It's John le Carré week!

We kicked off a Topic of the Week series on a few other sites, and now we're bringing it to Literature! (If you want more background, see the discussion here.) The basic idea is to increase the content we have about hot topics (authors, books, etc). This week's topic: In light of the recent rel...

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z7sg Ѫ

Who? Is it John le Carré?

DForck42

@z7sgѪ they're an author

Cerberus

16:35

Aww I missed the mystery!

z7sg Ѫ

@DForck42 Yes, I am familiar with his work.

Kitḫ

@Cerberus You were gone forever!

Cerberus

The doorbell rang and a friend came over.

A tragedy!

She is coming back in 10.

Kitḫ

@DForck42 I'm not sure that mods really ought to be eligible for prizes. Seems a bit dubious.

@Cerberus Minutes?

Cerberus

Yeah.

DForck42

16:37

@Kitḫ shrugs i'm not participating this week. haven't read anything by them

z7sg Ѫ

I vote for topic of the week to be "a vs an"

Kitḫ

@z7sgѪ chortle smack

Cerberus

Who are "they"?

John le Carré and?

Kitḫ

Thanks for the heads up though @DForck42.

Cerberus

Too bad I missed Matt's mystery.

Kitḫ

16:39

Well, if you didn't have so many girlfriends, you could play some more.

:-P

DForck42

no prob. figured eu&l and scifi are our closest related sites

Kitḫ

Yeah. Good thinking. A lot of us are members of both.

DForck42

@Kitḫ cool. we've also designated The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo as this month book club book

if anyone's interested

even if you don't participate in the club, i highly recommend the book

Kitḫ

There's a book club?

DForck42

1

Q: Book Club #3 Announcement

OK, the book voted on for the book club #3 is The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo voted on here. The book club will meet in chat on February 7th. Let us know what you think about the book. In a couple of weeks I'll create a post for suggestions for the next book club.

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z7sg Ѫ

16:44

@Cerberus Just watch the real thing: it was from the latest Sherlock Holmes on the BBC. I think you'd enjoy it (just don't think about it too much cos that ruins the fun).

Cerberus

@Kitḫ lick

@z7sgѪ Ahh OK.

I heard about that.

Kitḫ

@Cerberus You cannot lick this green from me.

Cerberus

Green?

Is that something biological?

Kitḫ

Green with envy.

z7sg Ѫ

She is so possessive.

Cerberus

16:45

Ahhh.

z7sg Ѫ

Plenty of heads to go around @Kit

Cerberus

That green looks so good on you.

Kitḫ

Mmpfh. I don't need a puppy anyway.

Cerberus

@z7sgѪ That's what I keep telling them too!

DForck42

@Kitḫ yup

Cerberus

16:46

@Kitḫ But I can fetch sticks? And eat things?

Kitḫ

Can you constantly feed my ego?

Man, I really hit a wall. I am suddenly really, really tired.

Time for more coffee.

Cerberus

Good idea.

And food.

Kitḫ

Right. Lunch. Well, I ate a couple hours ago.

I think I will tell the ladies to go without me.

Cerberus

Whither?

To lunch?

userscripts.org/scripts/show/64877

Does this link open for you?

It refuses to load.

JSBᾶngs

@Cerberus sic mihi

Cerberus

16:51

Thus for you?

It opens?

JSBᾶngs

@Cerberus no, it doesn't open

Cerberus

Ah.

JSBᾶngs

i should probably have linked to the other one

Cerberus

OK, then at least it's not my problem. Usercripts.org is often slow for me.

Still annoying.

JSBᾶngs

as in, responded to "refuses to load", so that you could understand what sic referred to

Cerberus

16:52

Yeah, I understand, though I'm not sure sic would work there.

I think you would rather use something like idem.

Or simply et.

JSBᾶngs

i thought of et mihi, but i wasn't sure if it was idiomatic latin

Cerberus

I can be, depending on the construction of the clause you're appending it to.

"For me too".

JSBᾶngs

et mihi exactly calques what i would say in Romanian, which is şi mie

Robusto

@Cerberus — Semper Idem, Semper Fidelis.

Cerberus

şi = and/also?

JSBᾶngs

16:55

@Cerberus yes

although, interestingly şi < sic

Cerberus

@Robusto Qu'est-ce que c'est, ça?

@JSBᾶngs Hmm odd.

Robusto

@Cerberus — Short story by Jack London.

Cerberus

I don't have time to read it now, friend will be here any minute.

Kitḫ

@Cerberus I could open it.

z7sg Ѫ

I wonder if Cerebus's friend is hot

Kitḫ

17:09

Mmm. I imagine that she is.

Hey @Cerb. Pics of your friend?

Same one that wolf whistled at you?

z7sg Ѫ

It's odd that she left and came back. Probably forgot to bring the dog biscuits.

Kitḫ

Maybe stopped by on her way home to ask him to dinner.

Kitḫ

17:41

falls asleep on desk

Matt Эллен

@Kit Are you asleep? Are you sleeping? Are you awake?

Kitḫ

Wha—? Huh? WHere?

I have the agendas right here.

Matt Эллен

excellent

what's first on your agendas?

Kitḫ

completed action items

reviewed

stuff

Matt Эллен

I like the sound of stuff. lets start with that

JSBᾶngs

17:45

lunchtime for me. hope that @Kit wakes up and feels better

Kitḫ

so to begin, let's take the time to review the benefits of stuff over things and talk about the gradual implementation of stuff of the course of tghe coming year.

So sleepy...

sleepbites @JSB

Matt Эллен

Hmmm, yes. Stuff does seem to have some benefits over things, but can the benefits last or is this some sort of stuff bubble?

Kitḫ

yes bubble things have had a significant impact on the invertsments if funds in stuff but this seems to be a longterm dohickey with seignorage.

snores gently

Matt Эллен

oh, right, of course, seigniorage. I completely agree

Kitḫ

i propose forming a committee to investigate the details adn present the findsing to the body of evidence.

ad hoc

z7sg Ѫ

17:51

i second that motion

Kitḫ

called to vote

aye

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

my Christmas turkey had stuff in it. but we forgot to take it out and then we saw that it wasn't stuff, it was things.

z7sg Ѫ

aye

Kitḫ

@MrShiny point of order!

motion carries.

z7sg Ѫ

or is it a point of fact?

Matt Эллен

17:51

aye

Kitḫ

no, sa point ovorder. mrshiny's comments came after the vote was called.

highly improper conduct for a man of his station

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

at my station there was an improper conductor so I got off the train

Kitḫ

Move to censure MrShiny by appointing him as chair of the committee to investigate the stuff details

Matt Эллен

aye

Kitḫ

@MrShinyandNew安宇 that highly conductive for a man of your stature!

@MattЭллен Is that a second, Mr. Ellen?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

17:55

I used to be a man of my stature but now I'm more into paintings

Kitḫ

You must be highly impressionistic.

Or rather conducive to impressionism.

z7sg Ѫ

agreed, MrShiny is clearly a personage much possessing of stature

and thus eminently suited to chairing the investigation into the details of stuff

and things should they arise eventually

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ si si

Kitḫ

Call to vote.

Aye.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Nay

Matt Эллен

17:58

Yay

z7sg Ѫ

aye

Kitḫ

Motion carries. MrShiny is so censured.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

sigh

z7sg Ѫ

majority rules, MrShiny appointed chair

Kitḫ

I expect that report by next meeting.

That reminds me:

Aug 25 '11 at 16:56, by KitΘδς

@aediaλ Nonsense. What kind of place are you running there? You should have a standing committee for the assignment of action items that reports to the sitting chair of the committee for the approval of meeting minutes so that they can coordinate the joint approval of the inclusion of the approved, assigned action items in the approved meeting minutes. tch Duh.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

18:00

my first act as chairperson of the stuff-things dichotomy, or STD, is to appoint Kit as secretary, treasurer, and janitor for all things STD. Also, I nominate Cerb as caterer.

Matt Эллен

woohoo!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

and Aedia seems to have a good understanding of how these sorts of meetings should go, so she can be the vice-chairperson in charge of organizing the meetings. @aedia, please coordinate with Kit.

@Matt you will be the Chief Stuff/Things Inspector, or, Chief STI. Your role will be to look at an item and determine if it is stuff or a thing. Please submit your itemized lists in PFS FirstChoice Spreadsheet format compatible with my Dos 3.3 computer.

Also I expect your executive summary in the form of a limerick

Matt Эллен

I see

z7sg Ѫ

hey nice seeing you guys, must run. tata

Matt Эллен

cya @z7sg

Kitḫ

18:08

I will accept the appointment as secretary, but there is no approved budget for the STD committee, so your request for a treasurer position is denied.

So. Anyone got a mystery?

Kitḫ

18:26

falls asleep on keyboard; writes exceptionally good code

Jez

18:48

hello people

JSBᾶngs

hey @Jez

Jez

first day at new job today

Matt Эллен

how did it go?

Jez

if getting nice women was as easy as getting decent IT jobs, I'd be having seriously hot threesomes most nights

relatively well. largeish Danish company setting up in the UK anew

only 2 of us employed over here so far

Matt Эллен

only two people in your office, or only two people in IT?

Jez

18:50

in the office

another joining in feb, another 1 or 2 in march

then probably 10 in the next couple of months

Matt Эллен

I see

Jez

i might be asked to go to Copenhagen for a few days

Kitḫ

Hot threesomes are probably not something you would want most nights.

Jez

Why would you say that?

Kitḫ

They are rather taxing.

Jez

18:51

oh well, you'll have to prove that to me.

Kitḫ

Right.

Jez

in other news, Americans just sleepwalked into losing most of their constitutional rights: washingtonsblog.com/2012/01/…

Cerberus

Hi!

JSBᾶngs

meh. rights are overrated.

Matt Эллен

hi @Cerberus!

Cerberus

18:54

Yeah my friend suddenly rang the doorbell, then went out to get us some sushi, came back, and now she has left me again.

Hi!

JSBᾶngs

however, i did answer your question @Jez

Cerberus

But my other friend will arrive shortly to palaeographe with.

Kitḫ

Most of my rights? Where? What? Oh. Not me.

Cerberus

@Jez Yeah it is preposterous.

But what can we do?

It would seriously be a reason not to travel to the USA.

I mean, it is bad enough here.

Jez

@Cerberus it's amazing... i thought the UK was always gonna have the US beat for Orwellian

but now the US military can arrest, detain, and execute a US citizen in the US with no due process.

Cerberus

18:57

Well, you're on your way...

But they are ahead.

Jez

so, they win

Cerberus

Indeed.

I'm beginning to like Germany more and more.

I think it is currently the best country in the world.

Jez

in hindsight, they shouldn't really have bothered with the constitution.

uneducated people dont give a damn about even an important legal document

Cerberus

What do you mean "bothered"?

Bothered writing it?

Jez

what they should have had was an inspirational piece of prose which contained the spirit of the constitution, and ploughed tons of resources and importance into education.

yes.

i used to think it was enough, but now i realize that what matters is making people continue to respect its spirit

Kitḫ

18:59

Why do you care what Americans do again?

Cerberus

I don't know. It was fine at the time.

Jez

and that means education

Kitḫ

I keep forgetting.

Matt Эллен

@Kitḫ why wouldn't we?

Cerberus

@Kitḫ I care about all my sheep.

Jez

18:59

@Kit because it's kind of interesting, because it generally has effect on the rest of the world

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