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ignoring file /Volumes/ℳ₯₳₱/iPhone Apps/Darth Vader Soundboard/AVFoundation.framework/AVFoundation, missing required architecture i386 in file

and something about this: "_OBJC_CLASS_$_AVAudioPlayer", referenced from:
objc-class-ref in Darth_Vader_SoundboardViewController.o

RegDwight Ѭſ道

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Q: Plurals and possessives of quoted words

After asking a number of questions on StackOverflow, I keep running into some of the same phrasing issues. Typically these issues stem from variable names. How do I correctly pluralize or possessivize* a word or phrase in quotes or code blocks? Are there any differences in grammatical structure...

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Q: Pluralizing Keywords in Programming Languages

In the language that I'm currently working in one of the keywords is try. I'm writing an error message: No implementation for global level try statements. It's too long in my source and so I would very much like to reduce it to No implementation for global level try's. Anybody using my cod...

grammatical-number programming

Your votes please.

Mahnax

The path in the first bit is where the .xcodeproj file is located, it's on my iPod at the moment.

@RegDwightѬſ道 To close? Or up/down?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Dupe.

Daniil

8:19 PM

Howdy

Mahnax

@Daniil Hi there.

LucasTizma

@Mahnax Somehow it's looking for AVFoundation in your project, which is odd/wrong. :-\

Mahnax

@LucasTizma Interesting...

@RegDwightѬſ道 Ah, first is a dupe of the second.

@Reg You are a mod, why do you not just close things yourself?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Because that's not my job.

My job is to intervene as little as possible.

Ideally, you should not even notice that mods exist.

Mahnax

Hmm, okay. You'd prefer it if the community would do all these things on its own.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

8:23 PM

Yup.

May 9 '11 at 21:23, by RegDwight

We have almost fifty 3k users now. I can't be closing questions unilaterally. That trains the community to be lazy. But if you can't count on Super Reg to close everything, that's when the site starts really working as intended.

Mahnax

@RegDwightѬſ道 That makes sense. I vote to close often, I think.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I think there's a SEDE query, actually...

Lemme see...

Mahnax

Umm, @Reg, your comment, it's... wrong. A question cannot be a dupe of itself.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Haha wut? Stoopid copypasta strikes again?

Sure it does.

Mahnax

As Slim pointed out, your link links to the question you've posted it on.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

8:26 PM

Well, I fixed it. Then deleted it. (Because your comment says the same thing anyway.) Talk about inefficiency.

Mahnax

Dang, we've gone and made ourselves useless.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Hm. For what it's woth, that SEDE query sez that you have helped close 0 questions.

That can't be true.

data.stackexchange.com/english/st/792/…

Mahnax

It is a lie!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Yeah, it's a cake. And the cake is a lie.

Mahnax

Well, it only gets updated once a month, apparently.

@RegDwightѬſ道 ♫ This was a triumph... ♫

RegDwight Ѭſ道

8:30 PM

Sure, but arencha older than that?

Mahnax

I've only been 3k for a little while.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Okay. Then I am willing to move that the query is not cake. But it is still lie.

Mahnax

Definitely still a lie. I am trying to dig up a question that I have helped close.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Oh I remember seeing your handle on at least one occasion myself.

Mahnax

Me too. One question that I helped vote to close was reopened.

Kitḫ

8:36 PM

Grr. Sum != Count.

Stoopid coder.

(That's me, the coder.)

Mahnax

Hello @Kit.

Kitḫ

Hello @Mahnax.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Meh. Easy to fix. Sum := Count.

Kitḫ

LOL

Sum ::= Count

Ha!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

;

Kitḫ

8:38 PM

Take that!

Ouch.

Touché.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Somehow I managed to mistype one half of a semicolon.

Kitḫ

I love you so much @Reg.

Mahnax

I'm afraid I have no idea what any of that means.

Kitḫ

I almost wish I knew you in real life.

Almost.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. Also, in real life.

Mahnax

8:39 PM

Well, I can guess what Sum and Count mean.

Kitḫ

But I would still mail you an apple pie next fall.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Oh! RIGHT!

Ze cake is a lie, but the pie ain't!

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Huh, what? Where?

Kitḫ

IF we can figure out how to get it to you in an edible or edibleable state.

@Cerberus Hurry up with the puzzle! I need to go home!

Cerberus

Oh! OK!

Kitḫ

8:41 PM

:P

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@robusto was talking some nonsense about a pipeline from his house to mine.

So I guess you just have to visit his place and shove the cake somewhere.

I mean the pie, sorry.

Kitḫ

I see. But I don't know his Secret Identity.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

And you don't have to. It's enough to know his Real ID.

Kitḫ

And I am afraid if I run around Beantown shouting "Pie for RegDwight!" I might get arrested.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Well, you'd be surprised.

Just try it.

Kitḫ

8:43 PM

It's not New York.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Now you just don't make sense. It is always New York. Even in the rare corner cases that it isn't.

Kitḫ

I once saw a woman carrying a live tarantula around in her clear plastic purse in NYC.

Also, sexual relations.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

She was carrying sexual relations in a clear plastic purse???

Cerberus

@Kitḫ Eww.

Clones!

Mahnax

:(

Kitḫ

8:44 PM

No, having sexual relations in a clear plastic purse.

OK, not really.

I fibbed a bit just then.

Mahnax

@Kitḫ gasp Even worse!

Kitḫ

For comedic effect.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Bah, we are 100 behind again. QQ

And I have to go AFK for a while me hearties.

Laters.

Cerberus

Ahh...

I'll fire a shot.

Kitḫ

I have to leave soon.

Mahnax

8:46 PM

Bye Reg.

Kitḫ

I'll squeeze off a few rounds while Cerb mulls this puzzle.

Ouch. Taking some bad losses.

Cerberus

Yeah it's not easy.

Cerberus

9:10 PM

Hey, please reopen this, folks!

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Q: -ness suffix etymology

What is the etymology of the suffix '-ness'? I have come across it in OE texts but always assumed it was a later borrowing.

etymology suffix

God I hate this.

Mahnax

I'm all for reopening that one.

Voted!

Cerberus

Thanks!

Why do all websites always have to become to much about rules and inner crowds, instead of openness and being friendly to new users?

Mahnax

I don't know.

Blame it on the pandas.

Cerberus

sad faces

Hey, I'm black and white too.

Racism!

Mahnax

No! That's not what racism is.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:25 PM

I have a different question: why is @matt's name not rendered correctly in the close reason message?

Cerberus

You're not using IE 4.0 again, are you?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I am using the same browser I have been using all the time.

Mahnax

My Safari 5 renders it well.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Chrome here.

So it's even the same engine.

Cerberus

My browser has this problem:

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:29 PM

And note how the first letter is rendered. Just incorrectly.

Cerberus

That shouldn't be there.

Mahnax

@RegDwightѬſ道 Webkit, right?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus Well, you cast your vote.

@Mahnax Yes.

Mahnax

@RegDwightѬſ道 That's what I thought.

Cerberus

It's probably a unicode/font problem.

Have you tried installing and using Code2000?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:30 PM

@Cerberus And in fact for you that's not a problem at all, because you have got your answer in, and can expand it at will.

Cerberus

Our beloved Vitaly once recommended it to me, and it solves nearly all of my problems.

@RegDwightѬſ道 It is not about me personally!

I just hate this.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I know. Now what?

You want me to ping Shog?

You know what he will say.

Cerberus

Aahhh!

I would like you to do other things to him!

And to Jeff too.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

Mahnax

Dave?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:35 PM

Oh come on.

Seriously, dude. Are you ten?

2001: A Space Odyssey (film)

2001: A Space Odyssey is a 1968 epic science fiction film produced and directed by Stanley Kubrick, and co-written by Kubrick and Arthur C. Clarke, partially inspired by Clarke's short story The Sentinel. The story deals with a series of encounters between humans and mysterious black monoliths that are apparently affecting human destiny, and a space voyage to Jupiter tracing a signal emitted by one such monolith found on the moon. Keir Dullea and Gary Lockwood star as the two astronauts on this voyage, with Douglas Rain as the voice of the sentient computer HAL who "seems human" and has fu...

Cerberus

Hello Dave!! [Papalazarou voice]

Ah, the computer. I've never read the book or seen the film.

Mahnax

@RegDwightѬſ道 I don't get out much.

Or watch a lot of movies.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Jesus Christ. I am surrounded by incognoscenti.

Mahnax

I'm sorry, what would you like me to do about it? Is it my fault that I haven't seen this movie or ever heard a quote from it?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Mahnax You don't have to have read Hamlet to have heard of "to be or not to be".

@Mahnax I don't want you to do anything. I am just expressing my astonishment.

Cerberus

9:38 PM

@Mahnax Don't worry, he always does that to me, and my memory is far, far worse than yours in any case.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

It's not about memory.

Mahnax

@RegDwightѬſ道 Half the people my age would look at you strangely if you said "to be, or not to be".

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Perhaps. Still, I would express my astonishment.

Mahnax

@RegDwightѬſ道 In a manner that makes it seem as though it's my fault, or that there is something I could have done to prevent it.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Well, okay, about films and internet memes, then.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:41 PM

@Mahnax Hm. Well I apologize for the manner, then. Even though there is something you could have done to prevent it.

Mahnax

@RegDwightѬſ道 That being what?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I just take certain things for granted. Like people knowing who Gagarin was.

@Mahnax Seeing the movie.

Mahnax

@RegDwightѬſ道 Well, sure. But if I didn't know it existed, then how...?

I did take the initiative just now to go look it up, though.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

That's an additional if. And the answer to that question is different.

But I was answering your original question.

Mahnax

Okay, but I didn't know it existed until the link about it was posted.

Cerberus

9:44 PM

I always feel that way. I've learned to to shrug it off and live with it.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

I find that astounding seeing how it's such an integral part of our culture.

Cerberus

Well, is it?

I think many of my friends wouldn't know it.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Of course! Everyone and his dog has paid his reverence to this movie by now.

Mahnax

Maybe your culture is different from mine. After all, there is an ocean between us.

Cerberus

Not everyone.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:46 PM

@Mahnax I am refering to your culture.

Do you know the Simpsons? South Park? Futurama? Family Guy?

They all have episodes that are parodies of 2001.

Cerberus

Didn't know the latter two before I came to this room.

I have only seen the former two a few times.

Mahnax

@RegDwightѬſ道 I've watched the Simpsons a lot, but the other three I always found stupid and inappropriate.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Sure, but that's beside the point.

My point is that that movie has been cited hundreds of thousands of times in other works.

Cerberus

In pop culture, yes.

I have heard it referenced a lot. And I know there is something about a big computer that turns evil.

Mahnax

Well, I'd never heard of it.

Cerberus

9:48 PM

But that's all.

Mahnax

Hi @MartyIX.

MartyIX

@Mahnax hi!

Mahnax

@MartyIX I think I may have seen you here once before.

MartyIX

@Mahnax Yes, I'm here from time to time to ask a question :-)

Mahnax

@MartyIX Heh, alright.

I wonder why Jeff deleted this question: english.stackexchange.com/questions/13646/…

RegDwight Ѭſ道

9:57 PM

@Mahnax He deleted it after someone (well, me) commented on our meta how he only had one question and no answers. So that was his way of saying that he would be taking his ball and going home.

Mahnax

@RegDwightѬſ道 I see. Can you tell me what the votes were for it?

Probably +1 -2, but I can't be certain.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

meta.english.stackexchange.com/questions/1549/is-elu-succeeding/…

@Mahnax +7 -0.

Mahnax

@RegDwightѬſ道 Whaaa? How does his rep work then?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Mahnax There. I just did a recalc. Check again.

Mahnax

And nice mini-rant, monologue, soliloquy, whatever you feel like calling it.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

10:01 PM

Jeff Atwood ♦, El Cerrito, CA

69 1 2 12

Mahnax

@RegDwightѬſ道 Hm, that confuses me.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Jul 11 '11 at 12:54, by RegDwight

I am here to confuse.

Mahnax

@RegDwightѬſ道 Grand.

I think that if Jeff wants to edit things here, he should need to submit the edits for reviewing...

Cerberus

I didn't know he was that old.

user19161

10:28 PM

@Mahnax Yay! I have 14k now.

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 referring

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 The browser cannot render the font in that particular size I think.

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 I wonder how he made that picture. Maybe I should try to ask him.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

10:48 PM

> It's an image from the Steve McConnell book Code Complete used to illustrate dangerous code samples

codinghorror.com/blog/2004/02/about-me.html

Mahnax

11:08 PM

@JasperLoy Very nice.

user19161

@Mahnax Do you have work later?

user19161

@matt Why are you back? You should be sleeping.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy No, not today. However, I may be going to the mall with some friends shortly.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy I know. I'm restless

Mahnax

I was in here at 3 o'clock this morning.

user19161

11:19 PM

@Mahnax Good good. Window shopping is one of my favourite pastimes.

user19161

@Mahnax Yes, I saw.

user19161

@MattЭллен Is something troubling you?

Mahnax

@JasperLoy I don't think I will buy much of anything, just dinner and a drink.

user19161

@Mahnax That's what I do, hence window.

Matt Эллен

@JasperLoy maybe. Or I could just be used to staying up later because of the holidays.

Mahnax

11:20 PM

@JasperLoy Indeed. I think that I will have a good time if we do go.

user19161

@Mahnax Yes, somehow math and walking go together.

user19161

@MattЭллен Which are over.

Matt Эллен

they are, they are

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Are you saying that math is to be considered a good time?

user19161

@Mahnax No, I am saying that many people who like math like walking too, often for long distances by themselves.

Mahnax

11:23 PM

@JasperLoy Yes, I like walking. I could walk for hours, just thinking.

user19161

@MattЭллен Reduplication like Matt 2.

user19161

@Mahnax Oh I called you Matt 2 and the other one is Matt 1 since I met him first.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Heh, okay. Maybe we'll just stick with Mahnax then?

user19161

@Mahnax Yeah anything. It's just for fun.

Mahnax

@JasperLoy Good, good.

user19161

11:25 PM

@Mahnax Do you know Pythagoras theorem?

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Oh God oh God!

Mahnax

@JasperLoy The really easy one?

Cerberus

Is that really....

That is hilarious.

Mahnax

a² + b² = c²

user19161

@Mahnax Yeah. Just wanted to say there are a few hundred proofs, and I only know one or two.

Mahnax

11:26 PM

@Cerberus What, exactly?

@JasperLoy What are the proofs that you know?

Cerberus

@Mahnax This is our Overlord:

Mahnax

@Cerberus Yes, I know.

It is a little humorous, I guess.

Cerberus

I had no idea.

This makes my day.

user19161

@Mahnax Well, the one where a square is surrounded by four triangles to make a bigger square. And one using some vectors and the scalar product. But the latter won't make sense to you now.

user19161

@Cerberus You know, he actually looks a bit like me from some angles at some points in my life.

Mahnax

11:28 PM

I know the difference between vector and scalar quantities, but anyways. I'm off! Bye all.

Cerberus

@JasperLoy Nah. You're different races, for starters.

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus you are easily pleased :D

Cerberus

@MattЭллен I'm soooo easy.

user19161