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3:00 AM
How do you know of them, from school? I don't think you were born yet by the time they took them off the air.
 
I'm about your age, aren't I?
I remember them on TV anyway.
 
Blushes... no not at all.
 
@Mitch What!?
 
There don't seem to be many kids in this chat. There are plenty in the math room.
 
3:02 AM
@Mitch Am so. You're barely older than my husband.
 
There is going to be a fork of Debian called Devuan.
 
@KitFox Then he is very old. Or lying, I mean mistaken, on his SE profile.
@JasperLoy by kids I'm guessing older than 10, right?
 
@Mitch ... are you talking about yourself in the third person?
 
@KitFox ha ha... what? I never!
 
21 hours ago, by Andrew Leach
@Robusto http://cogcomp.cs.illinois.edu/page/demo_view/SRL
 
3:07 AM
@Mitch Yes. You need to be 13 to be on SE, though some secretly are not.
 
@JasperLoy That's Debian's sister
 
I don't understand what this website is supposed to do.
I input a sentence, but I get no result.
 
@JasperLoy I can't imagine what the draw would be.
 
I remember Conjunction Junction, T-I-O-N, and I'm Just a Bill.
The others, kinda hazy.
 
@Cerberus I'm putting in all sorts of sentences. Some not even.
 
3:08 AM
@Mitch Well, lots of young kids are into advanced math these days.
 
@KitFox My favorite "Mr. Morton"
 
@Mitch The sentence I put in did nothing? Does it do anything for you? Only the example sentence worked.
 
Oh, Interjections! That one was fun.
 
"Mr Morton is the subject of the sentence, and whatever the predicate says, he does"
 
Haha.
What do you get?
 
3:10 AM
@Cerberus THey worked for me. THe results weren't that great, but I got some output.
 
@Mitch Oh right!
 
Try "The parser was eager to please" or "the parser was easy to please"
ooh I know.. "Tired green ideas sleep furiously"
 
I remember we had a question about 'pleasing himself', lol.
 
It makes sense because they're so tired.
What is it, "Fried green ideas..."
Invisilbe?
Colorless!!
 
@Mitch Ah, yes, I see it. Not great indeed. But who do I get nothing at all?
 
3:12 AM
@Cerberus What sentence did you try?
 
> None begrudged him his victory more than Victoria, despite her apparent glee.
At first I had no man, but I decided to make it make sense.
 
@Cerberus It doesn't know the word 'begrudge'. (I figured that out by trying 'Victoria begrudged him' with the same empty result then replacing with 'hated' and it worked)
 
Ahh.
It should have told us.
But now is bedtime.
This is more like a dictionary look-up.
Oh, well.
Bai!
 
@Cerberus No it does some parts of speech tagging.
the analogous parse, not really sensical.
 
3:24 AM
@Mitch But not in that example.
Bye!
 
@Cerberus nouns, verbs, modifiers, and the modifiers are pretty well refined.
 
Of course there is a fundamental problem with semantic roles; the website can't help that.
@Mitch I meant my example.
 
You're up too late. You have work tomorrow. I suggest a glass of warm milk. Or hot chocolate. Or if you don't have those, spicy noodles.
 
4:03 AM
room topic changed to English Language & Usage: Ixnay on lame descriptors (no tags)
@AndrewLeach: I pinned your Illinois link, but I think you should edit it to be more descriptive. It's a cool link.
 
4:22 AM
Oh right. The thingy.
Half a tick.
There.
Yay!
room topic changed to English Language & Usage: Mostly English spoken here. (no tags)
 
 
5 hours later…
9:42 AM
Hello
 
9:59 AM
Morning!
 
HI, @Cerb. How are you?
 
10:47 AM
@MattЭллен Hey! I'm good, since I have a new best friend!
Made by LG.
And you?
 
I'm fine, thanks. a bit hungry. So, you've got a new phone?
 
Anonymous
11:26 AM
@JasperLoy 麵包 isn't really used in Japanese
 
@KitFox yes. was it good rum?
 
Anonymous
I miss my boat hat. It looks like I was tied for 15th place on ELU, with 13 hats!
 
woo!
are the stats still available?
 
tchrist wins!
 
Anonymous
11:33 AM
Was there ever any doubt? :-)
 
I was pipped by Matt. Bah, humbug.
 
only before it started. I think Ste won last year
at EL&U
 
Anonymous
What is pip?
 
as in toodle pip?
 
only just beaten
 
11:35 AM
I don't know for sure, but I think pip means something like a short amount of time in that context
 
Anonymous
Ah, I see!
 
Anonymous
Hey, it's in the dictionary!
 
Anonymous
Handy.
 
according to the OED, the pip in toodle pip is imitative of a short sharp sound, like a car horn
 
Anonymous
11:39 AM
8
A: Final Winter Bash 2013 standings for EL&U

KitFoxI would like to make special mention of our own favorite moderator, RegDwight, who not only topped the charts on our site, but also on many of the other sites. Although three other users received more unique hats than Reg, Reg crushed the competition by earning an astounding 604 hats total acro...

 
Anonymous
That was last year's
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
That's a lot of hats.
 
ah, Ste beat Reg for unique hats network wide, but Reg earned the most hats, if you include duplicates across sites
@AndrewLeach shows how much I was paying attention :D
I didn't notice you'd said pipped
 
12:00 PM
0
Q: Related to Wordnet

CuriousI want to find all words that occur commonly with a given word. For example the words light, sunshine, breakfast, alarm commonly occur with the word "morning". Where can I find such information? I hope this question is relevant on this site.

is it on topic?
 
that's almost 50 years old :D
 
You're almost 50 years old.
 
oh, sorry, I misread the prof. he said a century and a half. not half a century
 
Also, millions of people are singing along to this song right now.
And that's at the next street corner alone.
 
12:10 PM
and millions still read little women. maybe smaller millions
 
Littler millions. Also, mostly comprised of women.
> In 2002, John re-recorded the song as a duet with opera singer Alessandro Safina for the first Sport Relief charity telethon, and it reached number four in the UK. In the US it was certified Gold and Platinum on December 13, 2012 by the RIAA.
 
Littler, the firey version of Hittler
 
That is just two years ago.
 
back when we thought the Mayans were going to destroy the world.
 
They didn't?
Their world did
 
12:19 PM
@Mitch what does "destroy the world" mean to you?
 
They did were going. But they did not went through with it.
The weak part of any plan.
 
It's a metaphor.
Stuff happened that no one liked.
 
like mashed potato. I see
 
Like the rain forest overgrew.
@MattЭллен Wait wait wait... you're twisting my words.
Depends on how the potatoes are made
Did you forget to add butter?
 
me? I didn't mash any potatoes
that's a horrible idea
 
12:24 PM
It's metabhorrent.
 
@Mitch I added butter to my sandwiches
 
I added fly to my butter.
 
Anonymous
@RegDwigнt Poor fly!
 
Actually it's quite rich.
 
Anonymous
Hee.
 
12:29 PM
Rich in fat and omega acids.
 
hi
 
Hi
 
what kind of impression does this sentence give you?
"The price of oil, I think, is being arbitrarily fetched down by Wall Street speculators."
 
Fetched isn't the best word there.
Unless it means something different in AmE, perhaps.
 
but I found fetch down the price of wheat
 
12:41 PM
is 'is' on the right side of , I think,
 
One should keep the subject and the verb as close as possible, usually. It was better before the edit, I noticed.
 
@MattЭллен Yes.
 
Fetch is what a dog does with a stick. "Collect and retrieve".
> The price of oil is, I think, being arbitrarily lowered by Wall Street speculators.
What did you want to convey by "arbitrarily"?
 
fetch down means to lower the price of...
 
Yeah it's not arbitrarily at all.
 
12:45 PM
@user08742 Not in BrE. "Fetch down" means to collect and retrieve from some high place, like a shelf, or upstairs.
 
held | ?? down?
 
yeah, literally but in this case, figuratively
 
Also, the whole point of oil price is that it is decided by speculators. That is by design. That is not an "I think". It's by definition.
That's like saying "I think cars can drive around".
 
i see.
 
@KitFox good. how's your morning?
 
12:47 PM
thanks for your tidbit about the commodity market.
Does this happen to yyou guys?
On my chrome browser if i google fetch definition, this also comes up a contrivance, dodge, or trick.
"it is no ingenious fetches of argument that we want"
but on firefox, that definition and its example sentence don't appear.
what's going on?
has my pc been hacked?
 
Um. Google results are different for absolutely every instance of every browser on this planet. Welcome to the Internet.
 
oh really?
 
Oh really.
 
so different browsers fetch different results?
even word definitions?
 
No, every browser installation gets a different result.
Go google for "car", tell me how many results you get.
 
12:53 PM
@user08742 I get archaic : a stratagem or trick
 
Then ask the people in here. Every single one will give you a different number.
 
@Andrew so no example sentence?
just the definition>
 
@AndrewLeach at any rate, that's a noun.
We're talking verbs here.
 
@MattЭллен Very, very cold.
Subzero.
 
@RegDwigнt "it is no ingenious fetches of argument that we want" -- fetch is a noun.
 
12:54 PM
@AndrewLeach yes. Which is what I am saying.
 
@KitFox oh dear. that's not good. you got good heating at work?
 
But he tried using it as a verb.
 
Yes, but the heat at the hotel was not up to it.
 
It's -20 C this morning.
 
12:55 PM
no no
 
@KitFox ouch.
 
So it was about 10 C in my room this morning.
 
@KitFox that is the smallest cup size I've heard all day.
 
@KitFox brrrrr.
 
is it stylistically ok to say "we shouldn't get fooled by his political fetches."
 
12:56 PM
 
@user08742 what style are you going for?
 
Yeah.
 
so your browser is not doing a good job. andrew
 
@MattЭллен Victorian.
 
ah,,,a pundit style
 
12:56 PM
The browser is doing the exact job it was programmed to do.
 
the George Will Style
 
And it's doing an English job, not an American job.
I think. I have a US IP address.
 
If you're going to use "fetches" like that, you can't use "shouldn't". It's too modern.
 
Just an old sweet song keeps George Will on my mind.
 
George Will is a pundit
 
12:57 PM
"be most wary of the gentleman's political fetches. aharumph!"
 
wanna be George Will
 
Too strong. "Be a little less than most wary" should do.
 
One musn't allow oneself to believe the political fetches of such a person.
One musn't allow oneself to believe the political fetches of such a knavish rake.
 
One mustard, please.
 
Take two, they're small.
 
1:00 PM
Don't interfere with my ordering mustards.
I order by color, not size.
 
k
 
Other arms reach out to me, other eyes smile tenderly, still in peaceful dreams I see the road leads back to you. Woaaah George Will on my Style.
 
1:29 PM
Have I mentioned it's cold here?
 
baby, it's cold outside
 
Then you should go home
 
English is such a stupid language. Left is a side, right is a side, in is a side, and out is a side, too. What the heck.
 
Stop complaining. And what's with the 'putting the moves on'? Is this some 'romance' song from the 1950's?
 
@RegDwigнt back is a side
 
1:35 PM
It's about a Russian president and his Ritz.
 
Step is a side
 
up is a side
 
Up side down, babe you turn me. In side out.
 
@Mitch step step slide
 
Blind is a side
 
1:36 PM
Why don't you just call everything side.
 
Regside
@RegDwigнt we do
 
Everything is a side
How was that?
 
Electric slide
 
that-side
 
regicide
 
1:37 PM
Tyne is a side
 
@AndrewLeach :-o
@Mitch Mersy, too
 
This side I woke up, brushed my side, commuted to side, surfed some side, went back side, ate a giant side side sidewich, and shagged my side and kissed her good side.
 
Burn is a side
 
Time is on my side.
 
If you shave the right way
 
1:37 PM
Sticky.
 
@RegDwigнt Better than kissing her backside.
 
@KitFox Time and side wait for no man.
@MattЭллен no, you call everything bollocks and buttocks, in some order.
 
If time is on your side, who can I choose for my team?
 
Sidenead O'Connor.
 
@RegDwigнt that's bollocks. you're always siding against me
 
1:39 PM
@MattЭллен side who?
 
So thats's how you pronounce her name?
 
@RegDwigнt yes
 
@Mitch yes. As opposed to Side-oirse Ronan.
 
Conan O'Brian?
 
Saoirse Úna Ronan (/ˈsɪərʃə ˈuːnæ ˈroʊnən/; born 12 April 1994) is an American/Irish actress. She came to international prominence in 2007 after co-starring as Briony Tallis in the film Atonement with James McAvoy and Keira Knightley, from which she received nominations for a BAFTA, a Golden Globe, and an Academy Award, making her one of the youngest actresses to receive an Oscar nomination. Her film breakthrough was followed by her starring role in Peter Jackson's The Lovely Bones (2009) where she was awarded a Critics' Choice Award, a Saturn Award, and a second BAFTA Award nomination for Best...
No, this Ronan. The Barbarian.
 
1:42 PM
Conan the Librarian
 
How can you be an American/Irish actress. That's like being an American/Russian president. Make your mind up girl.
 
Keeping the options open
 
Last time that was tried, it was tried by the Habsburgs, and look what happened to them.
 
Looking at the pronunciation of her name, there's a whole bunch of silent letters.
 
That is American/Irish for you.
 
1:44 PM
Or rather unwritten sounds
 
It is both.
 
That falls totally on the Irish.
And let's throw in the Habsburgs for good measure
 
Seriously, English has a dedicated letter for /ks/, which pretty much never happens at all, but no dedicated letter for either /ʃ/ or /tʃ/, which are all over the place in every single sentence.
 
And salt
 
What idiot thinked up English?
 
1:45 PM
A lot of em
 
I was fearing as mutʃ.
 
You should fear a lot of other things first. Like that car breaking right in in front of you
 
I don't have cars in front of me.
 
What about Lego cars?
 
Also, fear is deeply American. Nobody else gives a shit.
I don't want to deprive you of your precious tasty fear.
 
1:48 PM
Mmmm ... fear. with toast.
It's too strong all by itself
 
I will fear a car breaking on the same day I'll wear a Desert Eagle to eat a pancake.
 
but how will your children shoot each other if you don't carry concealed weapons?
 
I will shoot them first. I am afraid of children.
 
Just one pancake? That seems like a lot of effort for just one.
 
@Mitch I am afraid of more pancakes. They could gang up on me.
 
1:51 PM
is "Desert Eagle" slang for vulture?
 
@MattЭллен also, children don't shoot each other. They shoot their parents.
Dec 31 '14 at 20:56, by RegDwigнt
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Being afraid of children is natural. How did they get so small?
 
Fear of pancakes is irrational. The elephant that concerted children into pancakes is back in the kitchen.
 
If you can't stand the elephant, get the hell out of the kitchen.
 
1:53 PM
I can't stand one, but I sat on one once.
 
Desert Eagle is slang for pants.
 
On one once?
Really?
 
really
 
7
Q: Matryoshka words

RobustoSince it's Friday and others are playing games, here's another one to take us into the weekend. Everyone knows about those Russian nesting dolls (called matryoshka dolls, I believe). A small doll nests inside a larger, which itself is inside a larger doll, and so on. This game does the same wi...

 
1:54 PM
In soviet Russia pancake eaters wear pants
 
In Soviet Russia nobody wears pants.
In Soviet Russia pants wear you.
 
@RegDwigнt what do they get ants in, then?
 
@MattЭллен in Soviet Russia, what do ants get them in.
 
I can see who the trousers wear in that relationship
 
It's an atrousing thought.
 
1:56 PM
That's atrouserish
 
Why does this room keep asking me "not the room you are looking for"? And it's not even a link or anything. I find that insulting and disgusting.
 
@RegDwigнt Hey, I was still in the top 10 in hats this year. I don't know what you're complaining about.
 
@Robusto I never complained. I quoted. Yourself.
I then sent you some royal teas.
 
You were chafing under my early criticism.
 
Who's complaining now, and why.
 
1:57 PM
Spell check wants atrouserish to be 'Attitude rush'
 
I'm not complaining. Just trying to avoid work for another few minutes.
 
Why do you wear a spell check?
Who cast that spell check on you?
@Robusto the choose-pah is huge with you.
 
I've been kiting spell checks.
 
kite here a spell
 
room topic changed to English Language & Usage: There's no such thing as a free association (no tags)
 
2:00 PM
don't spell a check that your autocorrect can't cash
 
And I've been calling, oh hey hey Johnny, won't you come out to cash.
 
Johnny Cash can't come out
 
He can come out round the bend.
 
> I killed a man in Reno just to watch him die . . .
 
In fact he totally should, he ain't even seen sunshine since I don't know when.
 
2:02 PM
Why does work in 2015 suck so hard?
 
Because it's really work 2.015.
 
You Euros and your metric years.
 
No, that's Microsoft and its patches.
Blame Seattle.
 
yarrrr!
wharr's me iPatch?
 
> Patches? We don't need no stinkin' patches!
 
Anonymous
2:03 PM
This year is a palindrome: 13×5×31
 
Sarah Palin?
 
13531 isn't this year...
 
But Sarah Palin is.
Sadly.
 
@snailboat I like it
 
Palin is torturing dogs again?
 
2:08 PM
Well haven't you heard.
 
Apparently I haven't.
 
About the bird?
I have heard that the bird, in fact, is the word.
 
Too much Seth MacFarlane.
 
Not enough Seth Green
 
Just the right amount of Seth Myers
 
2:23 PM
Who is Seth Rogan?
 
If you meet Seth on the road, kill him.
 
Seth Green. Yum.
 
@MattЭллен Someone who joshes, presumably.
 
Seth y Roth: two spanish JRPG characters
 
y tu madre...loca envíenos un correo sándwiches de queso a la parrilla
 
2:26 PM
@AndrewLeach apparently! North Korea don't find it funny
 
They have trouble finding anything. no GPS
It's all about the GPS.
No tomtom
 
better :D
 
@MattЭллен When was the last time anyone laughed in North Korea anyway?
 
2:46 PM
@Robusto Sadly, no banana peels to slip on.
 
Those all get eaten. If they even get there in the first place.
 
What are the two universals of humor (what everybody in the world laughs at)?
Someone falling down (banana peels are optional) and...
 
3:11 PM
kiss & bajs
 
3:21 PM
Howdy everyone
Is @RegDwigнt around?
He used to post links from a russian english website
not sure what the name of the website was but it ran some interesting columns
the site ended with .ru
 
That narrows it down.
 
3:40 PM
Yeah totally.
You can only mean the War Nerd blog. It was on exile.ru for some reason.
In other news, Stephen Fry, 57, is to marry a 27-year old. Boy.
 
well, it'd be breaking the dating rule (half your age plus seven) but since they're getting married, I guess it's fine
 
Doesn't that rule break itself every single time it's applied?
What with the two to tango thing.
 
it's a minimum, so no
 
Oh, a nice constable-out.
 
4:28 PM
How can I say, "After a deep analysis, I decided this" in a better way?
 
What do you mean by "a better way"?
 
4:42 PM
@MattЭллен Perhaps, In a more ornamental and geeky way!
 
"I sought, so long and so hard, through the annals and passages bequeathed unto me by kin and strangers alike, I felt my life akin to The Doctor, the great time lord, whose eternal search through time and space leads him on so many an adventure, and with such knowledge, and through such tests, did I find my mind wend it's weary way along what now seems a predetermined and irrevocable path to this one and only conclusion"
 
4:58 PM
@MattЭллен So profound, but I couldn't see the conclusion yet. You mean, مكتوب.?
 

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