@tchrist this was a problem I hoped would be addressed. We don't have a queue for delete answers, do we?

@tchrist I do delete answers when I come across them.

There are so many that just lack one more vote to bite the dust.

@tchrist OK, will do. Thanks. I will start doing that too, if I can figure it out. Thanks.

@MattЭллен thanks, Matt.

I once went through the closed questions with the lowest negative total votes, and delete-voted most of them.

If you only have a few delete votes, you might be careful not to bother doing so on things that the cleanup script will soon blow away.

@tchrist I just opened your link. But it doesn't take me to a queue, rather a page (tools)

Yes, I know. I complain about it. But please open the Most Delete Votes thingy.

@tchrist cleanup script? See, there is so much I don't know.

@tchrist ok

Here’s my complaint; maybe kindly upvote it. :)

@tchrist just did.

@medica Closed questions with a nonpositive vote total and no answers with a positive vote total are autodeleted by the cleanup script once they’ve aged enough.

Delete-votes don’t evaporate though the way close-votes do.

So I am content to wait. Years, apparently.

The tools list does me no good because I’ve almost always already delete-voted those. That’s why we need an actual Delete-Vote Review Queue, which can be smarter about stuff.

Yes, that’s right.

I always middle-click those ones to open the post in a new tab to check, so that I don’t lose my place.

ugh. The first question in the delete q is the false-rape-accusation one.

@tchrist wow, that doesn't seem to ba an effecient way to do that...

@medica Hence my complaint on MSE, for which I was granted a bounty. We need it.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I know, I know.

Aside from the assumption by the OP that the woman is falsely accusing the man of rape, what is the problem with that question? There is such a thing as a false rape accusation (though rare)

trying to catch up

Is it OT because define:rape is missing?

@tchrist ok... yes, we do need that. Glad to have up voted your complaint, is there anything else I can do to encourage TPTB?

the close reason says "not about English"

Glad to see I’m not the only one who’s noticed the, er, peculiar quality of Third News’ answers.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I hated that question

@JanusBahsJacquet They are. I’m not sure what’s going on with them.

@medica thinks

@JanusBahsJacquet omg, no...several of us have been driven crazy by his answers.

Does anyone know how he does what he does, though? Many, if not most, of his answers give utterly obsolete and obscure words that I for one (and I presume most others) have never heard of, but which nonetheless more or less fit the question, broadly speaking … but how is he finding them?

@medica I'm sure you do. But because you dislike the OP's attitude, or because there are other issues?

@JanusBahsJacquet Not using a thesaurus, that’s for sure.

Too old.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 because it's about the legal system in India, and we don't have all the facts. It seems irrelevant. Most of us know the definition of rape in all it's guises.

People have suggested a fancy reverse dictionary of some sort.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 he seemed to want us to tell him that she wasn't raped.

@tchrist I’m thinking it’s some kind of clever OED grep thing (for a while, I even had him suspected of nicking it from you!).

@JanusBahsJacquet That’s what I was wondering, honestly.

@medica The question doesn't mention the legal system in india. It links to an article which has some nebulous story where a man was arrested for rape.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 but we couldn't because the article he linked to did not give enough information.

@medica I think he already assumed that.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 right.

The thing is, you need the OED2 source SGML and no small skill as a programmer to do that.

@medica I'm not sure why the article is even relevant?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It's not, but his question was based on it.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 several commenters and a couple of answers failed to give him what we all assume to be rape.

@tchrist He always links to that .academia.ru (or whatever it is) site, so I don’t really think it’s the OED in particular; but it does seem to be some similar type of thing.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 gotta remember this is the guy who asked about sister rape...

@JanusBahsJacquet I wrote an OED grepper yesterday to count up multiple-spellings of terms. It had some interesting results. I have to exclude Middle English, though: no regular orthography yet.

@medica So.... the problem is the OP is obtuse?

@medica I don't know why that's relevant either.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 no, the OP is a drive-by bowel evacuator.

@medica In non-medical terms, please?

If his answers were genuinely considered bad enough, there’d’ve been an autoflag for the mods to look at.

@JanusBahsJacquet If you're still talking about Third news, I haven't figured out the dictionary through which he gets such odd answers.

!!google drive-by bowel evacuator

@tchrist he shits on our site.

@skullpatrol google.com/patents/US6585720 ; google.com/patents/US4874363 ; amazon.com/Special-Ingredients-SI-11-Evacuator/dp/B003753MNM

@medica So... the user is a troll, and all his questions must be deleted, then? Or what.

@skullpatrol brings back patents. lol

‘Drive-by bowel-evacuator’. That’s good. I’ll have to remember that.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I would think of him more as culturally different

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 in his country, women are raped and hanged afterwards...

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I do not think he is a troll per se.

@medica because, we've got a troll: nortonnS, who posts questions despite having been banned infinity times.

they don't have a very high opinion of women

NortonnS's questions are rejected out of policy: that person is not welcome here, due to flagrant rule abuse.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Which does nothing to dissuade him.

@MattЭллен that's google for you always business first :D

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 ...sorry, I don't know him or the history.

But if kuldeep (rape Q guy) is not a troll, and is still allowed to post, then I don't see why we should close that question just because he's wrong about the facts of the rape case in his newspaper.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 as I said, his culture is diffefent

I also cannot get him to stop using bold for use–mention. Drives me nuts.

@medica Yeah, I know, India, full of misogyny. I've commented on it a zillion times here and in other forums. I don't know why that's relevant either. His question isn't about India.

@tchrist I think some of the same things drive us nuts...

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 He’s not still allowed to post, actually—he’s been banned for a year for “voting irregularities”.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yes, it is indirectly.

His question is: What is it called when two people have consensual sex, then later one alleges rape falsely?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Did you know that guy told me to fuck off three times in two comments?

@JanusBahsJacquet I saw that. voting irregularities are a separate problem.

I wonder if he’s the reason Josh61 has suddenly lost about 2,300 rep points today … [Edit: No, of course it’s not. He was banned a month ago; Josh61 lost his points today.]

and the answer is "two people have consensual sex, then later one alleges rape falsely"

so

but some people say it's valid to answer "there is no such word"

@medica I'm not defending the guy. I'm trying to understand why his question is "not about English"

@MattЭллен no, there's rape, and there are false allegations of rape, and we need to let the court decide.

@MattЭллен yeah. If his question was closed as GR I wouldn't be having this discussion.

@MattЭллен are they of the age of consent?

change of mind?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 see my answer to matt.

@medica what has that got to do with the question?

@medica I don't think that's necessarily relevant either.

@MattЭллен it's not about an English word that exists. It's about a legal definition of rape.

In what country?

@medica it includes a reference to rape. it's not about rape.

Let's say there was a word for false-rape-accusation. frape. Then when a victim says they were raped, the courts could decide whether it's frape or rape. But let's say someone already knows it's false rape... or thinks they know. They might still want to know the word.

@MattЭллен there isn't a word for a woman who we (must assume) had consensual sex then reports the man.

@JanusBahsJacquet Sock.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 then there is an answer to his question.

@medica It's not necessarily about a legal definition. Anyway it's good to distinguish between colloquial and legal definitions.

@medica I'm not disagreeing with that.

@tchrist I presumed as much.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 defamation?

@JanusBahsJacquet It looks like it caught 3 different serial upvoters, which looks rather odd.

@MattЭллен If, as @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 has suggested, there were the word "frape" then the question would have an answer, and we could all agree that it was a good question.

But there is no such word.

Notice there are 3 events listed in that last line.

@medica But if we allow single-word requests and phrase requests at all we must conclude that there are questions with no "right" answer... do we just close those? Do they never get revisited, if some new coining takes hold? etc.

@medica I have to agree with Matt and Shiny here. The question was poorly worded (but then everything he wrote was), but if we assume that the sex was in fact perfectly consensual, and one party then later on decides to falsely make allegations of rape, then that is a real, factual situation. Not something a court can decide or not—in fact, something a court cannot in any way decide. I don’t know of any such word either, but there might have been one.

@medica but Mr. Shiny wants to know why the question is not about English. If anyone can ask for a word that is defined by another set of words then sometimes we are going to get questions that gives a set of words we don't have a single word for. It's just another less than stellar SWR

@tchrist I've not followed your conversation about Josh - has he been found to be up votting himself?

@medica We don’t know that.

It certainly doesn’t look good, though.

Could be a voting ring.

@Cerberus I don't own it, but for all intents and purposes, it is mine until I move out.

@tchrist shit, if I knew about voting rings, I coulda been a contender...

@medica They usually come from Eregion.

@MattЭллен I guess, if it had been a different asker, from a different country, one where women are so badly abused, I wouldn't feel the same way about it.

Here’s a nice place to cast delete votes. :)

@tchrist ?Eregion?

@tchrist amen!

@medica Where Celebrimbor forged the Rings of Power, of course.

@medica tchrist lives in a world where the OED and the Silmarillion are both equally valid and relevant references. ;)

@medica There’s about 3 pages of them.

@tchrist O for goodness sake! I thought you were telling me where voting rings came from, lol!

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It's a wonderful world.

@medica fair enough

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 have you ever read the Silmarillion?

Hi guys, is there a name for little pumps doctors put in their hand to get air in the pressure belt thing?, or maybe those little pump exist for other things, I'd need one to make something

@cc insufflators

Right.

@medica ok, thanks :)

They blow in.

@medica Don't get me wrong. I dislike the OP's apparent attitude and a lot about India's culture (the bad parts). But I still think the question is as valid as any other SWR.

Quick answer! But then, a doctor would give a quick answer to that. :-)

@cc all they are are rubber bulbs

@medica Yes, two or three times, though I skip the geography chapter now.

(I was thinking along the line of bellows, but that’s perhaps a bit on the extreme side …)

@medica oh, useful name again

@cc If you want a cheap rubber bulb, ask for a blue nasal syringe.

@medica those are fun, for getting boogers out of an infant's nose.

@JanusBahsJacquet bellows, lol. That would work, though it would take two people to take a BP

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 we also use them when delivering babies.

@medica Or a doctor with a few extra limbs. ;-)

When they want people blown up, doctors more often insufflate them than detonate them.

@medica probably not the same size bulbs

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 almost exactly

@medica the one I have is about the size of a plum

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 just a different nozzle.

Occasionally, however, both events coöccur.

for cleaning nose, the best is with water stuff, works well for sinuses

@medica By … blowing into the mother’s mouth, creating a high pressure in her body to push out the baby?!? 0_o

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 hmm... the ones we use when delivering babies are about the size of my palm, that is they fit very well in my hand

@JanusBahsJacquet lol, no

@cc Oh no! Not the notorious neti pot!

Here, compare these:

@medica yeah the one I have is like a tiny turkey baster

when the mom has pushed the baby's head out, we actually ask her not to push for a minute

@JanusBahsJacquet while we suck out the amniotic fluid in the baby's mouth and nose so that they don't inhale it with their first breath. That's all...

@medica Oh, I see. How dull. My mind was alive with vivid images of all the preposterous things such an implement could be used for in a birthing situation. :-D

@JanusBahsJacquet It just cuts down on the coughing and gagging the baby does when he takes his first breath

@tchrist What exactly are we looking to compare here?

my daughter's delivery was suction-cup assisted.

so long as it wasn't vacuum cleaner assisted

@MattЭллен well, vacuum assisted. Just not cleaner.

@JanusBahsJacquet They have much more to do there — notice the number of delete votes required — but over on SO there are people who really do work the delete stuff bottom-up. Here I’m the only one who does that; MetaEd used to.

@JanusBahsJacquet ugh... there are many of those already. No more need to be invented.

@MattЭллен I’m sure that would make for a much more fun-packed (and clean!) birth.

@JanusBahsJacquet no need to push! we'll just flip the switch...

Those are from the 10k tools page deleted tab.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yep. those aren't much used anymore, though they were better than forceps.

@JanusBahsJacquet I don’t think many people associate fun-packed with birthing.

@tchrist Aah, it was the numbers we were comparing. Gotcha!

@medica She was in distress: heart-rate falling, and the delivery was taking too long. Also turns out the cord was wrapped around her neck.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yes, I also did a few.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 This happened to my sister.

Hello, @Alex. What brings you out of the bin?

:D

a multidimensional being!

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 The truth of the matter is that they rarely truly assisted in the delivery. Mostly they sucked a lot of blood into the space under the scalp.

But it was less invasive than forceps.

@medica in my daughter's case it also reshaped her skull.

That seems to have settled down on its own though.

So people just wanted to believe it helped, when it didn't really.

well, it was 6 years ago, too late to worry about it now.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 and it worked out just fine.

@medica I'm pretty sure it did in this case; you could tell they were applying quote a bit of tension. The thing popped off the first time.

anyway. speaking of my daughter. time to go get her.

flees

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I've delivered about 100 babies. The cord is wrapped around the neck often enough. It's only when there's tension on it that it's bad.

is momentarily confused that Shiny goes to pick up his six-year-old daughter at 10:45 at night … then realises because time zones, duh

@medica how many people have you watched die?

@skullpatrol In the ER? Lots

@Mahnax Oh, that's nice. Your parents' old/spare car?

@skullpatrol on the floors, not as many...

@skullpatrol in their homes, a few

@skullpatrol in hospice, a few.

about how many?

@medica No chance of you not seeing thestrals, then.

@skullpatrol I've probably seen many times more people die than I've delivered babies.

10 times as many?

@tchrist Funny you should mention Eregion. I did so only yesterday.

@JanusBahsJacquet thestrals?

@skullpatrol yeah, maybe

@tchrist Is this coincidence? chat.stackexchange.com/…

@medica I figured if tchrist can drop Tolkien references, I can drop Rowling references. ;-þ

@Cerberus Why sure, where else do Rings come from?

So far, you and I have been the only people in this chat to ever bring the 'region up.

who thinks like that^

@JanusBahsJacquet Ave, deus, quod verbum habet vocativum tam rarum.

@Cerberus You know it’s a /g/ there, right?

That is how I would pronounce it, yes.

Or /x/ in Dutch.

I know, I know.

@Cerberus Not a dive guy, eh?

Meh.

I think that is also used?

Heh.

@Cerberus Ave, Cerbere, quis canis habet capita tam tria. ;-)

Let me look it up...

@JanusBahsJacquet *qui canis

Ita est!

This place is for the birds.

Trissima!

Hi folks, what is the more accurate word to express the following activity? Is it "pushing" understandable if I want to write a message without a figure? My message is "Your motorcycle can pass through this tunnel as long as you don't drive it but just pushing it.". The following figure (will not be used in my message) to illustrate what I mean.

For some reason, correcting Janum is satisficientissimum. I feel like a child.

@FifaEarthCup2014 Push sounds good, or walk?

I loved it when Mari-Lou showed up. I got to get out a real Ave Maria. :)

@JanusBahsJacquet Mmm not quis?

@Cerberus walking side by side with the motorcycle?

@tchrist Ah, she is your idol, I had no idea.

@Cerberus No, just a birder.

@FifaEarthCup2014 "... as long as you walk your bike through the tunnel"

@FifaEarthCup2014 You’re walking the bike.

@Cerberus Meh, I’ve always hated interrogative and relative Latin pronouns. I even went and misedited it to quis (and now it’s past the cutoff).

@MattЭллен OK. Thanks.

@JanusBahsJacquet We have a new blueboy here who can fix such things, given the proper supplication.

@tchrist OK.

@FifaEarthCup2014 Yeah, what they say, you can walk your (motor)bike.

@Cerberus OK.

@JanusBahsJacquet Aww but you had qui first!

Walk your bike, don’t ride it.

@tchrist She is a birder? What?

@Cerberus I’m playing with aves.

Ahh.