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> 1833, Amer.Eng., origin uncertain; perhaps related to corruption, which was used in a sense of "anger" from 1799, or from English dialectal canapshus "ill-tempered, captious," probably a corruption of captious.

FallenAngelEyes

@JasperLoy It's my first language. I never really thought about the word as strange before. :)

Cerberus

That is what Etymonline says.

We learn new words here everyday!

@FallenAngelEyes By the way, your Double thing from KFC is only 540 calories!

I believe a Kapsalon is 1200 or 1600.

So don't go dissin' the Kapsalon!

FallenAngelEyes

Haha, I can believe that

Cerberus

It is even 1800 !

Nice.

FallenAngelEyes

My friend told me that it's called that because the dish was started by a man who worked at a kapsalon and wanted something quick and hearty from the snackbar by him that he could carry back to work

user19161

11:10 PM

Actually it's not just the calories but the category the food belongs too: protein, fat, carbohydrates, vitamin, mineral, water, fibre, etc.

Cerberus

@FallenAngelEyes Hehe that may very well be true.

@JasperLoy Yes, but... I can guarantee the Kapsalon is very rich in fats and cholesterol!

Animals fats too.

Chips, cheese, cheap meat...

FallenAngelEyes

@JasperLoy It's ridiculously unhealthy. Take a bunch of french fries (or chips), cover them with döner, a layer of cheese, garlic sauce, sambal (is that how you spell that?), and then sprinkle on a few stray pieces of lettuce, tomato and cucumber for the illusion of healthiness

user19161

@Cerberus Thank god there's no Kapsalon here. Only epsilons in my books.

Cerberus

Yes, sambal. I didn't know that was in it.

Epsilon sounds healthier.

FallenAngelEyes

@Cerberus I don't like it much so I usually request that they keep it out

user19161

11:13 PM

I don't like chilli if it is too hot.

FallenAngelEyes

But it's normally in it

Cerberus

OK.

Notice "usually".

FallenAngelEyes

But yeah, you can pretty much eat that for your only meal of the day :P

Some days I don't mind a little spicy, other days I'm like "meh"

Cerberus

I mean, you "usually" eat Kapsalons, then!

user19161

There was once I ate some Indian food with superhot chilli. I felt on fire the whole day. No amount of water helped.

Cerberus

11:14 PM

I hate that too.

user19161

My bedroom msg got starred. Yay!

FallenAngelEyes

@Cerberus Oh dear god no, I'd probably keel over and die.

I've had 1 this year so far, when we felt superlazy about dinner.

user19161

I think I'll join the French site when it comes up, just to add one more user to it and some more.

user19161

Talking about burgers, I think Mos Burger > Burger King > McDonalds.

Cerberus

@FallenAngelEyes Haha, 1 a year is a modest number.

Mos Burger?

Never heard of that.

FallenAngelEyes

11:19 PM

@Cerberus I think more than that would clog my arteries too much. :P

I've not heard of that either

Cerberus

Probably, yes.

user19161

MOS Burger

, doing business as (Japanese, "MOS" or "Mountain Ocean Sun"), is a fast-food restaurant chain (fast-casual) that originated in Japan. It is now the second-largest fast-food franchise in Japan after McDonald's, and owns numerous overseas outlets over East Asia, including Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, Thailand, Indonesia, and until 2005, Hawaii. It is also the name of the standard hamburger offered by the restaurant, being its first product when the restaurant was founded in 1972. Its headquarters are in the ThinkPark Tower in Ōsaki, Shinagawa, Tokyo. At one time its headquarters were in...

FallenAngelEyes

Ah, gotcha.

user19161

Japanese are good at everything they do.

FallenAngelEyes

@JasperLoy Especially panty vending machines.

Cerberus

11:22 PM

Wow, that looks interesting.

How are those rice buns?

user19161

@FallenAngelEyes And porn too.

Cerberus

I suppose nothing could be worse than regular buns.

FallenAngelEyes

@Cerberus They use rice buns in Bap Pao here. I think I'm spelling that wrong.

Cerberus

Bao Pao.

I didn't know that.

I think I have eaten a Bao Pao once, but don't remember the bun.

FallenAngelEyes

Yeah, it's rice bread.

user19161

11:23 PM

@Cerberus Excellent, a bit like sushi rice.

Cerberus

Hmm that sounds OK.

The Takumi burger à € 9 sounded good, with avocado.

FallenAngelEyes

My attempts to enjoy sushi are thwarted by the fact I do not like fish.

Cerberus

Then eat sushi with avocado?

There are many kinds.

user19161

@FallenAngelEyes I love only sashimi, in fact only salmon.

Cerberus

I like most sushi, except the pickles.

FallenAngelEyes

11:24 PM

I've had a cucumber/egg roll that's nice.

But I don't eat seafood in general.

Spare Oom

@JasperLoy I used to eat there occasionally! Brings back memories.

user19161

@Cerberus Are there pickles in sushi?

Cerberus

I have several sushi bars within 30 meters from my house.

FallenAngelEyes

So yeah @Cerberus, no herring on new year's for me!

Cerberus

@JasperLoy They are here, in one type of sushi.

Aww no herring...

Well, I can understand that.

FallenAngelEyes

11:26 PM

Herring or kibbeling, bleeeegh. shudder

Cerberus

Hehe.

No raw fish, huh.

FallenAngelEyes

No fish at all really.

user19161

@SpareOom You mean MOS? Or the exact branch in the picture? BTW, are you he or she?

Cerberus

Really?

Spare Oom

Sashimi and sushi! Yum. I just ate but you're making me hungry again.

Cerberus

11:26 PM

Not even... smoked salmon?

FallenAngelEyes

I've tried, but I just don't like it. Combination of taste and texture and the aftertaste.

user19161

@SpareOom Sashimi.

FallenAngelEyes

Nope :<

Spare Oom

@JasperLoy MOS in general.

Cerberus

A pity.

What about Thai curries?

Spare Oom

11:27 PM

@JasperLoy Thanks.

Cerberus

And kroepoek?

There's fish and shrimp in those, respectively.

FallenAngelEyes

Ugh, don't like kroepoek

I can taste the fishiness in the aftertaste

Cerberus

Aww OK.

And Thai curry?

FallenAngelEyes

I don't think I've had that

Cerberus

Green, red, you name it.

Spare Oom

11:29 PM

Raw fish doesn't taste particularly fishy to me.

user19161

But tuna is more expensive than salmon, though it doesn't taste good to me.

Cerberus

I'm sorry I have to do this:

user19161

@Cerberus Curry chicken!

Cerberus

Yes!

Spare Oom

@Cerberus Don't apologize, just hand it over.

Cerberus

11:31 PM

Hehe.

Take it.

There's plenty of fish in the sauce.

user19161

I've eaten the stuff in the picture a few times, very nice.

Spare Oom

@Cerberus Technology hasn't advanced quite so far.

Cerberus

It is called Thai curry here.

user19161

@Cerberus Yes indeed.

Cerberus

@SpareOom Perhaps not. Then you may look at the picture.

Does that help?

Spare Oom

11:32 PM

It helps me not gain weight.

user19161

If you stare long enough, the food might just pop out from the screen.

Cerberus

It is hard.

I have just eaten a sandwich, but I'd rather eat 24/7.

Spare Oom

There are Thai restaurants within a couple miles of here.

Cerberus

There are several within 30 meters from here. Ish.

I have all kinds of Asian restaurants in my street, quite convenient.

Except that I hate Chinese.

user19161

Japanese curry is nice too, not hot at all.

Cerberus

11:34 PM

Not all of it; but much Chinese food is just not my thing.

Spare Oom

@Cerberus I'm in a suburb. Not even houses are that close.

Cerberus

Japanese curry? Never tasted that.

@SpareOom Hehe, understandable.

FallenAngelEyes

@Cerberus I like wok restaurants!

user19161

@Cerberus I hate Chinese restaurants too. For the price, I would rather go elsewhere.

Cerberus

Yes, wok can be good.

@JasperLoy Ah! But then I wonder why everybody eats there?

FallenAngelEyes

11:35 PM

There's an all-you-can-eat wok restaurant within walking distance

Spare Oom

I like almost any food as long as I don't have to cook it.

Cerberus

Dim Sum has a few good dishes; but the jelly dough is just... yuck.

FallenAngelEyes

You pay €25-€28 euro and you can stay for 3 hours and eat/drink as much as you want

Beer included

Cerberus

@SpareOom That is a healthy attitude!

user19161

@Cerberus They are too rich!

Cerberus

11:36 PM

Ah... but € 25 isn't really cheap...

@JasperLoy But Chinese restaurants are cheap here!

Not all, but most.

FallenAngelEyes

@Cerberus It is for a wok meal + drinks

Cerberus

Hmm OK.

user19161

A Chinese restaurant cheats your money by making you pay for hidden things: the peanuts, the handtowel, etc.

FallenAngelEyes

I may be overestimating prices, I haven't been there in a while

but I drink a lot during my meals

Cerberus

I understand.

Spare Oom

11:37 PM

@JasperLoy Where is that?

Cerberus

By the way, could it be that wok = Japanese curry?

FallenAngelEyes

Here we go

Dinsdag tot en met donderdag € 22,50 per persoon.
Vrijdag tot en met zondag € 27,50 per persoon.

And you don't have free refills in the Netherlands in most places!

So I love it.

user19161

@SpareOom Almost every Chinese restaurant here, in SG.

Cerberus

@FallenAngelEyes Ahh OK.

FallenAngelEyes

I hate paying freakin €2 for a glass of 7-up I can drink in one swallow >:(

Cerberus

11:38 PM

Yeah.

But do you drink sweet drinks at dinner?

user19161

@FallenAngelEyes Just get it from 7-11.

FallenAngelEyes

I can easily drink like €8 worth of those in a meal.

What I used to do is try to drink lots of water before we went out to dinner here in the NL :P

Spare Oom

@JasperLoy Southern Georgia?

FallenAngelEyes

It is so expensive to me.

Cerberus

I have a friend who drinks coke at dinner. I really can't understand that.

user19161

11:39 PM

@SpareOom Singapore. I'm not American, and I wish I were German.

FallenAngelEyes

@Cerberus What do you drink?

Cerberus

Water, beer, or wine. Or tea.

FallenAngelEyes

If I am home, I drink milk or juice or pop. If I am out, I drink pop or beer.

If I am at parents/grandparents-in-law, I drink wine.

Cerberus

Ah you're a pop sayer!

FallenAngelEyes

And yes, I say pop

user19161

11:40 PM

@Cerberus I used to take earl grey at starbucks. It was the cheapest drink and the nicest too.

Cerberus

Do you know Kosmonaut's map?

FallenAngelEyes

I grew up juuuust west enough in central NY to say pop.

I am familiar with the map, aye. :)

Cerberus

Spare Oom

@JasperLoy I didn't know you abbreviate Singapore that way. Thanks. Southern Georgia could have been the European Georgia.

FallenAngelEyes

If you drive 2 hours east of where I grew up, people say soda.

Cerberus

11:41 PM

Ah OK.

FallenAngelEyes

Do you see NY state there? I grew up in one of the bright blue counties in the middle.

Cerberus

@JasperLoy Earl Grey is the best! Drinking that as we speak. I didn't know they drank that in Asia.

user19161

@SpareOom Sure, and you haven't told me if you are he or she. I shan't ask again.

FallenAngelEyes

I went to university in one of the bright yellow ones.

Spare Oom

@Cerberus I've used all the terms except Coke being all-inclusive. I moved too much.

@JasperLoy Oh, sorry. I'm female.

Cerberus

11:42 PM

Haha.

user19161

@Cerberus Well, Asia is not exactly a rural village!

Cerberus

You Americans are funny.

FallenAngelEyes

@SpareOom Yeah, I tend to use soda when speaking English in Europe because people don't really know "pop" as much here

Spare Oom

@Cerberus I prefer English Breakfast, but recently have discovered Indian spiced chai.

Cerberus

@JasperLoy I know! But I thought black tea was a barbarian Western habit? You don't drink milk, do you?

Spare Oom

11:43 PM

I grew up with soda pop I think.

FallenAngelEyes

I've only just started drinking tea. I used to hate it.

Cerberus

@SpareOom I like many other teas too. But Earl Grey is the only one I can drunk every day.

user19161

@Cerberus I do, but not much nowadays.

FallenAngelEyes

I'm still not horribly fond of green tea. I tend to drink spice type teas now though.

Or Ayurvedic teas

Cerberus

@JasperLoy I thought most Asians were allergic?

FallenAngelEyes

11:44 PM

@Cerberus To tea? O_o

user19161

@Cerberus To milk, no!

simchona

@Cerberus Lactose intolerant

FallenAngelEyes

I would cry if I were lactose intolerant. I drink milk every day.

user19161

I have not heard of that one, that Asians are allergic to milk.

Spare Oom

@FallenAngelEyes Me too.

FallenAngelEyes

11:45 PM

@JasperLoy Me neither

user19161

And we all have drunk breast milk before.

Cerberus

Lactose intolerance

Lactose intolerance, also called lactase deficiency, is the inability to digest and metabolize lactose, a sugar found in milk. It is caused by a lack of the enzyme lactase in the digestive system, required to break down lactose. It results in symptoms including abdominal pain, bloating, flatulence, diarrhea, nausea, and acid reflux. Most mammals normally become lactose intolerant when they are young; however, some human populations have developed lactase persistence, where lactase production continues into adulthood. It is estimated that 75% of adults worldwide show some decrease in l...

It says "90 % in some Asian countries".

Spare Oom

@JasperLoy According to my mother, she bottle fed.

FallenAngelEyes

@Cerberus Huh, interesting.

Cerberus

@JasperLoy You guys are supposed to become lactose intolerant as you grow up.

So everyone in Singapore drinks milk without problems?

user19161

11:47 PM

@SpareOom I see. I would really be interested to know what breast milk tastes like since it is not sold.

FallenAngelEyes

@JasperLoy ...this sentence sounds almost creepy.

Spare Oom

@FallenAngelEyes almost? lol

aedia

@FallenAngelEyes Catching up catching up... I say soda! My dad says "soda pop," I think.

Kit

@JasperLoy It's like really watery milk with a hint of caramel.

Cerberus

There was this guy who got sexual pleasure from breast milk. He put adverts up on the Internet, asking for breast milk "for his poor son who had lost his mother".

FallenAngelEyes

11:49 PM

@Cerberus Again, fetishes everywhere!

user19161

@Kit I see. I saw my friend's breast milk bottle. It looked scary.

Cerberus

Yup.

I think I tasted some when my brother was born.

user19161

@Cerberus Is that you?

Spare Oom

@Kit Could it depend on what the woman diet had consisted of? Certain things causing colic and all.

Cerberus

It was a bit warm and sweet.

Arda Ξ

11:50 PM

Well, human breast milk is healthy, for a baby anyway. Any other kind of milk is actually unhealthy.

Cerberus

@JasperLoy I couldn't divulge such information.

Kit

@SpareOom Yeah. You can always taste the garlic.

Arda Ξ

@Kit You sound a little too sure of that...

Cerberus

@ArdaΞ Unhealthy is a bit strong...

Spare Oom

@JasperLoy And you didn't ask her for a sample?

Kit

11:50 PM

@ArdaΞ Meh.

user19161

@Cerberus Yes you are always confusing me!

Arda Ξ

@Cerberus Well, it is literally detrimental to your health.

aedia

@FallenAngelEyes I could not get used to "pop" when I was in western NY. You crazy people :P

Kit

@ArdaΞ I have two sons, both of whom I breastfed.

Cerberus

@ArdaΞ Compared to what, and for whom?

Arda Ξ

11:51 PM

@Kit Fair enough.

user19161

@SpareOom No, inappropriate, since she is like my friend's wife.

Arda Ξ

@Cerberus Compared to not drinking it?

Kit

@JasperLoy Like? Not actually?

FallenAngelEyes

@aedia Haha :D

Cerberus

Hey, how come you have a real Xi, but it only shows up when we Reply to you? Magic!

Arda Ξ

11:51 PM

For humans, any other milk than human milk (like cow milk for example) is unhealthy.

user19161

@Kit Well, actually.

Cerberus

@ArdaΞ I mean compared to eating meat, eggs, etc.

Arda Ξ

@Cerberus ~~I edite~~ let's go with magic.

@Cerberus That's not the type of unhealthy I mean.

user19161

What happened to the Xi. It became a greek symbol!

Spare Oom

@ArdaΞ My sister gets mad at the fact we were bottle-fed. She says she could have been smarter if Mom had breast-fed her. I think she's a little bitter.

Kit

11:52 PM

That's a Xi? I thought it was san.

Cerberus

@SpareOom Haha.

It is a crude Xi.

Kit

My mom bottle fed me, and I'm in the top 2% of smartness.

Cerberus

(No offence.)

user19161

@Kit Indeed it is a san or three in chinese.

Kit

Of course, she's crazy as a loon.

Cerberus

11:53 PM

@Kit Yeah, right. Prove it.

FallenAngelEyes

Given my adopted status, I don't think I was breastfed at all.

Arda Ξ

@Cerberus It's an actual Xi. Crudeness is provided by your font.

Kit

@Cerberus Well, I did score in the 99th percentile on my GMATs.

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user19161

@ArdaΞ What happened just now to make the symbol display like that?

Cerberus

@Kit Really!! Then you must be God and do with us as you will.

Kit

11:54 PM

@FallenAngelEyes Well, you could have been, but it's unlikely.

Arda Ξ

I still need to find the results of my IQ test. I don't remember what the percentile is.

Cerberus

FallenAngelEyes

How long are babies usually breastfed?

Kit

@Cerberus Oh, I have, thanks.

user19161

@ArdaΞ 99?

Arda Ξ

11:54 PM

@JasperLoy I edited it on my profile after I joined the room.

Cerberus

Does it look different to you?

Arda Ξ

If you refresh this page, you'll see it next to my messages as well.

@JasperLoy I told you, I don't remember.

Cerberus

Ah OK.

user19161

@ArdaΞ I see it now.

FallenAngelEyes

I was adopted when I was 3.5 months old. Not sure how long I was with the adoption agency before that.

Kit

11:55 PM

@FallenAngelEyes Up to a year. Devout LLLers will go longer though.

FallenAngelEyes

LLLers?

Kit

Lactase starts to decline around 4 years, if I recall.

So that's considered "natural" weaning age.

aedia

@FallenAngelEyes La Leche League.

Arda Ξ

I know my IQ is 139 ± 15, but I don't know my percentile.

Kit

I think breastfeeding a 4 year old is creepy though.

@aedia Oh, yes. Sorry.

FallenAngelEyes

11:56 PM

@Kit Yeeeeeah, I tend to think that too.

@aedia Oh, huh. Not heard of them.

user19161

@Kit Definitely not a 13 year old.

Cerberus

Hey I'd like to know whether my computer is messing with me again... does Arda's Xi look different to you guys?

Kit

@FallenAngelEyes Do you have babies?

FallenAngelEyes

I refreshed and now it does, @Cerberus

@Kit I do not! I'm only 27, so not thinking about that yet.

Kit

@Cerberus Looks neater to me than your picture does.

Spare Oom

11:57 PM

@Kit Let's sue our mothers for lowered intelligence. We could have been top 1%.

Kit

@FallenAngelEyes Well, that's probably why you haven't heard of them.

user19161

@FallenAngelEyes Hey women can have babies at 17!

Arda Ξ

3 mins ago, by Arda Ξ

@JasperLoy I edited it on my profile after I joined the room.

Cerberus

Neater, as in sharper? That's just because SE has enlarged it.

OK, I will try refreshing then.

user19161

@ArdaΞ Now you are referencing like reg does.

Kit

11:58 PM

@JasperLoy Sooner than that, honey.

FallenAngelEyes

@JasperLoy Oh I know, there are a few in my graduating class who had them at 15. :) I'm just not planning on having kids yet.

Cerberus

Nope still the same.

Arda Ξ

@JasperLoy Huh? I do that all the time.

Kit

@Cerberus Neater as in evenly spaced.

FallenAngelEyes

@Cerberus Shift+refresh?

To clear cache?

Cerberus

11:58 PM

@Kit Ah OK. And the length of the middle bar is the same?

Arda Ξ

This is how it's supposed to be.

Cerberus

@FallenAngelEyes OK I will try that too.

@ArdaΞ Ah, thanks.

Kit

@Cerberus No, it's a little shorter.

Spare Oom

@Cerberus It looks like Arda and then 3 parallel lines.

aedia

@Cerberus Mine has a smaller middle bar, I think.

@Kit What she said.

Cerberus

11:59 PM

That's still not a regular Xi... but better than mine!

user19161

@SpareOom I'm not sure if it looks like Arda.

FallenAngelEyes

@Arda I'm now going to call you Arda linedoodlybob

Arda Ξ

@Cerberus Then what is a Xi supposed to look like?

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