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@Cerberus Ernest Vincent Wright would like to have a word with you.
Who?
In other news, I think I found a bug in The Game.
In an older version of The Game, actually.
Remember my 9001 score? It should not be possible.
Where did you find this older version?
Hmm.
Are you quite sure?
00:21
Yes. 9001 is not divisible by three.
You don't get points for 1 and 2?
Come on now.
We discussed that!
Also, I don't actually remember ever seeing a score not divisible by three aside from that one.
Really strange.
Ernest Vincent Wright (1872October 7, 1939) was an American author known for his book Gadsby, a 50,000-word novel which, except for the introduction and a note at the end, did not use the letter "e". Biography The biographical details of his life are murky. A 2002 article in the Village Voice by Ed Park said he might have been English by birth but was more probably American. The article said he might have served in the navy and that he has been incorrectly called a graduate of MIT. The article says that he attended a vocational high school attached to MIT in 1888 but there is no record tha...
But I am only here to say goodnight.
So goodnight!
Ah.
No e should be easier than no 3-letter words!
00:37
No L, no L, no L, no L. Born is da king of Israal.
Bye.
01:04
The "spinning bit" represents an artistic depiction of quantum coherence, wherein a qubit attains the classically forbidden superposition of both logical value zero and logical value one, concurrently.
Jez
Jez
> Now, the Quebec language police seem to be extending their reach to Facebook. Eva Cooper owns Delilah in the Parc — a shop in Chelsea, Quebec near the Quebec/Ontario border. She received a letter from the language office telling her to translate everything posted on her store's Facebook page into French
the funny thing is the French who want French subtitles for Quebecois publications ;-)
it would be odd if English had diverged like that
but aside from saying "ass" a bit too often you guys pretty much speak OK
01:16
@skullpatrol Nice!
I did not read quantum mechanics in it, though!
@Jez Hilarious!
@Cerberus physicists are always trying to annoy mathematicians.
Haha.
Not to mention Aristotle.
Indeed, they take great pleasure in disrupting the Aristocracy.
I think they are still bitter about Einstein's theory proving Newton's laws as approximations.
As can be seen by how many upvotes this question, asked over a year ago, recieved ;-)
01:40
Aristotle formulated the principle of non-contradiction.
Indeed, he laid the foundations for the so called "laws of thought."
Well...
Many philosophers have taken part in laying those foundations.
Unrelated:
> "We went through the top of the head, I think she was awake. She had a mild tranquilizer. I made a surgical incision in the brain through the skull. It was near the front. It was on both sides. We just made a small incision, no more than an inch." The instrument Dr. Watts used looked like a butter knife. He swung it up and down to cut brain tissue. "We put an instrument inside," he said.
As Dr. Watts cut, Dr. Freeman put questions to Rosemary. For example, he asked her to recite the Lord's Prayer or sing "God Bless America" or count backwards..... "We made an estimate on how far to cut ba
The lobotomy of Rosemary Kennedy.
> After the lobotomy, it quickly became apparent that the procedure was not successful. Kennedy's mental capacity diminished to that of a two year old child. She could not walk, speak intelligibly, and was considered incontinent.
> Diaries written by her in the late 1930s, [before her lobotomy], and published in the 1980s, reveal a young woman whose life was filled with outings to the opera, tea dances, dress fittings, and other social interests:

"Went to luncheon in the ballroom in the White House. James Roosevelt took us in to see his father, President Roosevelt. He said, 'It's about time you came. How can I put my arm around all of you? Which is the oldest? You are all so big.'"
02:20
@KitFox: Was that you who added me to Google+ circles (or whatever they're calling it now) today?
(they're calling it "internet phobia")
 
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03:37
I wrote "there was exciting challenges to build logic on top of Cassandra, which is a bit 'raw' and designed for efficiency" , is 'which' correct there?
03:48
@cyril There were.
If Cassandra is not a person, and which refers to Cassandra, then it is correct.
thanks Cerber
@Cerberus Cassandra was condemned to foresee the future and have no one believe her.
!!wiki cassandra
In Greek mythology, Cassandra (Greek , also ), also known as Alexandra or Kassandra, was the daughter of King Priam and Queen Hecuba of Troy. Her name means 'she who entangles men' in Greek. She had the power of prophecy and the curse of never being believed. A common version of her story is that Apollo gave her the power of prophecy to seduce her, and then cursed her when he failed. In an alternate version, she fell asleep in a temple, and snakes licked (or whispered in) her ears so that she was able to hear the future (this is a recurring theme in Greek mythology, though sometimes it ...
04:05
@Robusto Yes, it was Apollo's punishment. But this didn't seem to be about the prophetess, but rather about some program or language.
> 23.319
I can't get above 3K. I obviously don't understand how to do it.
@RegDwigнt Look how neat my board looked! Until it dropped that 96 and that 48 on me.
@Robusto You just need more practice.
Do you want to look at my playing a session?
If you install Team Viewer, I can let you have a look.
At the desktop of my virtual machine.
But seriously, I often still die at 700 or so. It's also luck.
> 768
192
48
24
24
96
12
48
12
2
1
6
3
3
1
3
Yeah. I just scored a 186.
Hmm I can copy my board.
Haha, happens to the best.
The game is strangely compelling. More so than it has any right to be.
04:09
I know!
At first I was like, this this stupid and pointless.
I stopped at that first impression too
I stopped as well, after 5 minutes.
Then I was bored and tried again.
Kinda sucks down the hours.
> Thanks for playing! ^____^ Your score is
912
Yeah, you're welcome!
The thing is, you should probably quit if you don't have your board in order by the time you get a 48, or it's going to hold you back from a high score eventually.
Hmm.
@Cerberus That would be about every game for me.
04:20
@Robusto OK then you need to work on your first phase: get a neat board.
Once you have that, there comes an east mid phase.
After that phase, irregularities will be formed that you may or may not be able to solve.
Once you have a couple of insoluble irregularities, the end game begins, where you do what you can to stay alive for as long as possible. Luck is more important than ever now.
Yeah. I kind of get the basics, but I wind up making exactly the wrong move and getting a row of twos or ones, or my connectors will get hopelessly split.
Yeah that happens.
This is not going to work, for example.
Or I still have a chance, but I really need to fix it soon.
> 588
Yeah that didn't work.
Ach, that's it for me. Good night.
04:36
@Robusto Good night!
Night!
> 25.326
> 20.880
04:52
@Cerberus Is this the game of Three?
@Cerberus Even if it is stalking, it's OK.
@JasperLoy Yes!
Have you played it?
@JasperLoy Haha thanks. He responded well.
05:46
> 144
06:43
@Cerberus No, I don't play games, lol.
Why not?
Games are boring. I prefer watching porn, lol.
07:02
Okeedokee.
And I prefer going to bed!
I wish you a good afternoon.
 
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@RegDwigнt > Trying to remedy the situation, GEMA applied for an injunction to force YouTube to change the messages, claiming that they misrepresent the situation and damage GEMA’s reputation. YouTube alone is responsible for blocking the videos, claiming otherwise is simply false, GEMA argued.

Yesterday the District Court of Munich agreed with the music group and issued an injunction to force YouTube to comply, stating that the notices “denigrate” GEMA with a “totally distorted representation of the legal dispute between the parties.” Changing the message to state that videos are not avai
 
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10:09
@Cerberus yeah it was on the news two days ago.
@Robusto okay, forget everything, and just do this: try to only move up and left. You will more or less automatically have the highest number in the top left corner, the second highest numbers to the right of it, and underneath it, and so on.
24 12 6 3
12 x y
6 z
3
When the top row is full and cannot move, and only then, you may move to the right. Otherwise, continue with using only up and left. Never move down at all.
Merge early and merge often.
And always merge higher numbers before you merge lower ones.
So with this strategy, the only thing you really ever have to think about for any given move, is whether to move left or up. Just two options at any given time.
10:42
Which means that your speed increases, too. Soon enough, you'll just rush to 192 on complete auto-pilot, and only then slow down to think.
And the rest is just the law of large numbers. Especially since above 192, luck is the main factor. If you play a hundred games, some of them will inevitably get you over 10k. And thanks to the increased speed, you'll play the hundred games in like ten minutes.
11:43
I have class Condition, is IsSatisfied the correct name for the property?
And what is a good name for subconfitions? Prerequisites?
Preconditions?
Hm. I think something like Subcondition is better than Prerequisites, because the relation to Condition is clear.
IsSatisfied is fine with me.
 
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13:35
@Cerberus "After the lobotomy, it quickly became apparent that the procedure was not successful." One of the things you never want to hear a doctor say: "Oops".
@Robusto I don't know, but if I check, it will probably add you.
My name is close enough to my real name that you would probably know.
If you email me, I could tell you if it was someone else.
hi
I have a short paragraph I want you to check.
Would that be possible?
14:02
@JohanLarsson Preconditions only if they must be satisfied first. Also, ditto what Reg said.
@username901345 What do you need? I have about ten minutes.
Oh.
I would really appreciate it if you could read it through and check if it's grammatical.
but it doesn't have to now since you are busy.
I am sorry
So Mari-Lou A has a serial upvoter? Hmm, I am trying to divine who it is...
It's not you?
No, why would it be me?
What did you think of the essay?
Jasper.
14:13
@username901345 It is too difficult for me, I only read simple stuff.
are you being ironic here?
Nope, I am speaking the truth.
Oh ok.
sorry
The hardest words I know are from my math books.
I don't read any Charles Dickens, lol.
@Mitch If it were me, I would do it so that it is not reversed automatically, lol.
@JasperLoy ooooh. clever.
14:18
@Mitch None of my serial upvotes have ever been reversed, I am proud to say.
@JasperLoy reading math is hard. or rather impossible. you don't read math.
I'm not sure how spreading the Gospel and insisting it is the Word of God contradict each other.
@Mitch However, someone did lose a few hundred points when I deleted my account on another SE site.
Because if we insist, no one will not read it out of prejudice.
I'm not sure either. I read that as 'Gospel' being a sandwich spread. I'm soooo hungry.
14:19
@username901345 That's not a contradiction.
@Mitch Me too, now that you mention it.
A contradiction is if two things are in opposition.
If you must spread the Gospel and yet insist that no one who is not Catholic may hear it, that's a contradiction.
I like whippoorwill's questions.
You would.
14:21
@username901345 are you a non-native speaker?
why do you ask/
The passage is grammatical with no non-nonnative speaker errors.
He asks for fun.
non-non native?
@username901345 I want to know how to respond. one way for NNS one way for native.
14:22
No, I don't agree with you, @Mitch.
Except about the food part.
Mitch what do you mean?
NNS?
The second worst thing that you can hear your doctor say "That is fascinating!'
@username901345 ha ha. Oops.
@Mitch That is cerberus's favourite word, which became mine too.
@KitFox for NNS grammar. for non-NNS style.
For instance, "...cast into the accursed pit of banned publications, among which..." is a horrible construction.
14:23
(to vastly oversimplify)
@KitFox sure, that' is ... very purple.
Oh. I meant I don't agree that it is grammatical.
But is it ungrammatical?
and the accent on '-ed' is missing.
Purple and ungrammatical.
@Mitch The moment I saw accursed pit I knew it was not something I would read.
14:24
which part is unrgrammatical?
"cast into the accursed pit of banned publications, along with..." would work.
But it is consistently purple, of this quasi-preachy, 19th c. way.
Where has the Bible been banned?
Is it banned in Iran?
@Mitch Sort of.
14:25
@JasperLoy I know. An accursed pit is not particularly inviting.
Unless cake is involved.
I'm having a hard time choking it down.
But you say..."among which is ..."
I need a sandwich, I think.
Someone told me that Christianity SE is blocked in Iran, so maybe they ban bibles too.
among them is Mr John .
14:26
@JasperLoy all sorts of stuff is banned in Iran. But they're not that special.
@username901345 You can cast ... among ... but it has a different connotation.
@JasperLoy proselytizing is illegal there.
@Mitch Most laws are stupid, because most politicians are stupid.
But then chewing gum is banned in Singapore. You can chew all the gum you want in downtown Teheran.
14:27
other errors?
@Mitch Yes, refer to above line again.
Also, the way that sentence is framed sounds like you are advocating for unbanning Hitler's autobiography.
@username901345 It's not an error, just noting a particularly strong choice of words.
> Our obdurate insistence of the Bible solely ...
14:28
@KitFox The custom's forms going in to Germany say you can't bring in Bibles ... or playing cards. So there's illegality of some perverse kind there.
insist on the Bible being something.
@Mitch Wait, you can't bring bibles into G?
(of course public tazes are used to support churches there so there's that.
@JasperLoy ha ha. Correct. Those bastards!
@Mitch You mean now, or 100 years ago?
Our obdurate insistence on the Bible's sanctity or somesuch.
14:29
But of course you can buy them there. but of course people hardly ever do.
How would I say that this coming Monday no free slots are left for a free Web-based demo? Can I say "This coming Monday is booked up already", or does book up imply payment?
That's a perfectly good use of 'booked up'
Very well. Thank you.
you would not use 'booked up' for payment.
@Mitch OMG! Now I must think twice about being reborn in G my next life.
14:30
Their inversion of right and wrong, their overt sponsorship of capitalist society, in fact their insistence of capitalism as the only Christian means of life moves them well beyond the moniker of fascism firmly into the category of evil incarnate.
@JasperLoy argh... you got the wrong lesson from what I said.
@RegDwigнt Book up would be in the books, i.e., reserved. No payment implied.
What about this "insistence of ...as" construction.
no one there cares about bibles.
I was too lazy to search for a translation, because "booked up" came to me faster than any word in a source language to translate from...
14:31
or if they do they're embarassed (those European liberal atheists!)
@username901345 Let me think on it.
@KitFox right on. It's just that I somehow thought of hotels yada yada blah wevs I'm sending this now. Tnx.
@RegDwigнt Well, yes, because they do put things in books and also collect payment for reservations, so I can see why you would ask the question.
> ... than ever are heeding the Gospel...
I am surprised RD asks a question. I thought he knew everything.
Reading does not imply heeding.
@JasperLoy He knows many things. He knows the right things. Mostly he knows when to ask.
@username901345 Eh, well. The rest seems grammatical, although I'd probably argue your logic with you (but that would be pointless).
14:35
@Mitch Do you have a citation to back that up?
so that "insistence" part is OK?
@username901345 I don't think he's being ironic. The prose is very complex and a bit difficult to fathom. A lot of the inferences are tenuous (I don't know anywhere in your purported audience that the Bible is banned). The point of the passage is meaningful, to convince believers in the Bible that it can be considered plain literature for themselves. (The Bible is already well-recognized as literature by (educated) non-believers.)
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 If by citation you count my fallible memory, then yes.
@Mitch Even Hitler's autobiography is not usually banned.
What I wanted to say is the bible is now discarded by most of us like we discard such books as Hitler's book...without thinking much about it...
We don't do that to MOby Dick
or the scarlet letter.
even if we don't like them
Even saying his name is worthy of criticism in our discourse.
Really? The bible is like Hitler's book?
14:42
Yeah ..not in content but in our attitude
Hmm, I am not sure that is the case.
Like "Are you christian? Wow...I don't wanna be with you..."
I think that is pretty much Godwin's law being invoked here.
"Don't proselytize me"
At least in my country
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh. I thought that that in particular was banned.
14:43
Religion is shunned.
You don't wanna read Scientology Bible do you?
What's your country?
@Mitch To my knowledge it's only banned in Austria. Even in Germnay it's legal to own and sell, but the company that holds the copyright prohibits printing new copies.
I shun only certain religions, such as X, Y and Z.
I've read the Scientology bible. Yeesh. Nutters.
Its secret..personal info
14:44
And we know who X, Y, and Z really are!
but most of us don't wanna read for fear we should be brainwashed.
@Mitch Good, good.
That's why some people shun the Bible.
@KitFox What? I thought it was pretty mediocre scifi. The coupl of pages before I fell asleep.
@Mitch Agreed.
14:45
@username901345 Who are 'we'? does that include you?
@username901345 I don't avoid the book, and I have read parts of it in fact. I just don't believe in it.
No. I am religious.
@username901345 I don't want to read it because it's probably just full of nonsense. But that being said, sometimes I do read things like it because it's useful to know what nonsense people believe. In that sense I'd consider the Scientology texts to be as culturally important as the Bible.
That's why I said we.
I've read that one too. I don't think much of calling it 'literature', personally.
14:46
@username901345 OK so you're speaking as though 'we' are other people not including yourself?
I heard of Scientology but never bothered to look up what it is about.
Wow Mr shiny...you've turned your back against us christians.
@username901345 I have never met a person who was afraid to read a book because they feared brainwashing. That, er, isn't how brainwashing works.
yeah like...I am a scholar.
Observer.
@username901345 Well, it's no secret that I am an atheist, former Roman Catholic.
14:46
@username901345 If Christianity means believe in Jesus is the only way out of hell, then that is bullshit to me.
OK, OK, let's change the topic before I get out the spanking stick.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 OK that's not the case at all. At least in the West, Christianity has had extensive cultural impact. Scientology is less than a footnote.
@KitFox I thought you only had 10 min? LOL.
Sorry for causing a ruckus here kitfox.
14:47
@Mitch Well, sure... Christianity has more followers. But Scientology is still pretty large, currently. Way too large, if you ask me.
I did, and I need a sandwich now, because of @Mitch.
@KitFox Some people... er... might like that.
Apotheosis!
what are we not talking about?
14:48
I have no idea what scientology or apotheosis is.
@username901345 It's OK, just that there are quite disparate views on religion here, and I don't know how you will react to them. I'd rather avoid hard feelings.
I don't want to get in trouble with KitFox.
I'm getting food. When I come back, you all better be behaving.
Thank you KitFox..I just wanted to write like a preacher..They are so eloquent
@MετάEd You do look a little like Jesus, lol.
14:49
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 but the impact is hardly comparable. Even in mostly secular countries like Europe and colonies (yes, I include Latin America), we breath Christian ethics and myths. Scientology is just one of the smallest and slightest stories.
@username901345 Preachers are not eloquent to me, it is the content that matters, not the way they say it.
Anyway @username901345 I agree with what kit said way back when: your opening lines about the contradiction between the bible being literature and the word of god don't make sense. Almost everyone agrees that it is some kind of literature, with some level of importance. Unbelievers naturally disagree that it is the word of god, but then that's the point of preaching to them, isn't it?
@KitFox On to more controversial things. Cake or pie?
@KitFox So was my insistence construction OK?
@JasperLoy In my mind Jesus looks a lot like Yasser Arafat.
14:50
Did you know that Melville was a preacher at heart?
@username901345 I think you were very successful in that. It read just like a preacher to me (maybe one from the 60's. preachers nowadays are a bit more folksy and tell jokes and stuff)
Who is Melville? Melvin? Smallville?
@username901345 what do you mean?
@MετάEd you mean with the stubble?
Wow. I didn't know that. Preachers need to be poetic. That's why I would go to church if I went to the US.
14:52
I have gone to enough churches here.
Melville would read the Bible all the time at sea.
He was greatly inspired by the Bible.
@Mitch The last sentence was correct? I was unsure of it.
I usually write bible instead of Bible.
In fact, I answered a question "Should Hell be capitalized"?
I got several downvotes for it.
@username901345 I think it made the point you wanted it to make well. And to non-believers who aren't big readers, I can see how a prosiletyzer's insistence about it being the 'word of God' might make those people think it is not an interesting read.
I believe the bible is not the word of God but the word of man.
Jasper you are wrong on that. God made those prophets write his message. So they were His vessels.
14:55
@username901345 There are big churches, and big churches you see on TV and then there are just everyday churches. Lots of different church experiences here in the US. The US is not at all like you see on TV and in movies.
He is formless so He used those people to send His message to the masses.
@username901345 That is exactly what I don't believe in.
Except for Mission: Impossible. I've done that a couple of times.
I don't like mega preachers.
@Mitch Yeah, not everyone has big boobs like in the movies, lol.
14:56
They are driven by profit not by God.
Real preachers are driven by truth alone.
@Mitch Heck, I'm coding on my computer right now by dangling from the ceiling, because my house's floor is set up to trip an alarm if anyone walks on it.
@username901345 before the modern mass produced literature era, the Bible was how people learned to read and the only thing -to- read.
Yes. Couldnt have said it better myself.
The Bible is part poetry part literature part history.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I used to do that but I got neck pains so now I just have one of those swedish chairs nailed to the ceiling.
So very educational.
14:58
@username901345 be careful. Most of the history in the Bible is wrong.
If by education you mean 'how to read' and not much factually relevant history or science.
It's more story than history.
Yes. But I pay attention to the way it is told. Those big words fascinate me.
Most of the bible is fiction to me now. Just read Song of Solomons.
Example: the Exodus: there is no evidence in the real world to suggest that it ever happened at all.
14:59
That book is just porn.
A lot like TV in fact. a bunch of made up stories that are intended to teach a lesson (don't do this, don't cheat on your best friend with their ex-girlfriend because it's not really over ya know!)
I don't watch porn by the way. I watch Roman art, those virgins.
lol
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