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Mitch

20:00

I'd rather the rule be "you can add anything to anything"/ I can remember that

Cerberus

So why do some tiles move, while others don't? I had 22 and they didn't combine.

RegDwigнt

@Mitch well, but can you add 2361134612346213486102936890216 to 2361234760123452139085980239801508912389059082135? can you? can you?

@Cerberus when you press a key, everything moves in that direction. The entire field. When a row (or a column) already has 4 tiles in it, it obviously cannot move in the specified direction, so that is when it tries to add things up. Starting on the outside.

So a 3 3 3 3, moved <- will become a 6 3 3 _.

And a 3 3 3 3 moved ->, will become a _ 3 3 6.

Move it again, and it becomes a _ _ 6 6. Again, a _ _ _ 12.

Cerberus

But I had like 3221, and it wouldn't move.

Or maybe 3226.

RegDwigнt

But if it's a 3 6 12 6, you cannot move it in either direction. It's blocked.

Cerberus

The 2s did nothing.

RegDwigнt

20:03

@Cerberus yes, because the twos only add up to oneses.

3 mins ago, by RegDwigнt

In other words, anything above 3 (white) only adds to itself, while anything below 3 only adds to something else below three (red to blue and vice versa).

4 mins ago, by RegDwigнt

1. You can only add a one to a two. 2. You can only add any other number to the same number.

You cannot add a two to a two, or a one to a one.

That's the hard part.

Indeed, that's what you need to work around to get really far.

Cerberus

> 1128

RegDwigнt

@Mitch are you still adding? It was a joke, do not.

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt Oh wait, I misread.

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus excellent!

2234 here. I screwed up. But in general, the strategy is working.

Keep the white numbers in a corner. Any corner will do, but I picked top left.

Cerberus

So the result of a merger has to be 3*2^x ?

RegDwigнt

20:07

Only let the 1s and the 2s come from three sides. Ideally, only two.

Cerberus

I see.

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus yeah.

Cerberus

OK.

RegDwigнt

4293. Couldn't get the 384 for the life of me...

Cerberus

Sounds like a very high score.

skullpatrol

20:21

can i play too?

RegDwigнt

No, I got over 7000 just a few minutes ago, and that one was with a 384.

@skullpatrol sure.

skullpatrol

thanks :D

Cerberus

@skullpatrol Have you bought a ticket?

skullpatrol

no

Cerberus

Oh, dear.

Have you brought us tea?

skullpatrol

20:24

not yet

RegDwigнt

I would like to have tea!

BRB making tea.

Cerberus

Could make us a pot of Earl Grey, pretty please?

RegDwigнt

(But it will be @skullpatrol who will have to bring it.)

Cerberus

Haha yay.

We're not sexist.

I'll bake a cake.

skullpatrol

!!wiki tea

RegDwigнt

20:25

@Cerberus meh. Not too big a fan. Ceylon all the way, babeah.

KitSox

Tea

Tea is an aromatic beverage commonly prepared by pouring hot or boiling water over cured leaves of the tea plant, Camellia sinensis. After water, tea is the most widely consumed beverage in the world. It has a cooling, slightly bitter, and astringent flavour that many people enjoy. Tea originated in China as a medicinal drink. It was first introduced to Portuguese priests and merchants in China during the 16th century. Drinking tea became popular in Britain during the 17th century. The British introduced it to India, in order to compete with the Chinese monopoly on the product. Te...

Cerberus

But she has to do something to gain access to the game.

@RegDwigнt Huh.

Ceylon is basically Earl Grey without bergamot...

But, very well, I like simple Ceylon as well.

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus QED

Mitch

@RegDwigнt you forgot a '1' in the middle there.

@RegDwigнt I was doing it on my fingers. If I use my toes, it'll go faster.

Cerberus

(Or I'll smuggle in some Earl Grey in my hip flask...)

Ouch, that burns!

Mitch

20:27

What, you forgot the flask part?

skullpatrol

After water, tea is the most widely consumed beverage in the world.

RegDwigнt

Hm. This is a catastrophe.

Wife cleaned up the kitchen, hid the Ceylon.

I will have to make do with Earl Green unless she returns by the time the water's ready.

skullpatrol

drink hot water

RegDwigнt

@skullpatrol tee hee. Hold on, I'll fetch a quote for you.

Oct 27 '12 at 17:48, by RegDwighт

@Cerberus that reminds me of a children's book in which they made tea, but they had no milk, and no sugar, and no tea, so ended up drinking boiled water.

'There.

skullpatrol

:D

RegDwigнt

20:30

Незнайка на Луне

«Незнайка на Луне» — роман-сказка Николая Носова из серии о приключениях Незнайки с элементами научной фантастики. Это заключительная часть трилогии романов Носова, состоящей из произведений: «Приключения Незнайки и его друзей» (1953—1954), «Незнайка в Солнечном городе» (1958), «Незнайка на Луне» (1964—1965). Впервые роман «Незнайка на Луне» был опубликован в журнале «Семья и школа» в 1964—65 годах. Отдельным изданием книга вышла в издательстве «Детская литература» в 1965 году. В 1969 году Н. Н. Носову за трилогию произведений о Незнайке была присвоена Государственная премия РСФСР имен...

This book.

skullpatrol

nice

Cerberus

@Mitch Well, the flask was hot. It was meant for whiskey.

@RegDwigнt Umm what is that?

An impossible bastard tea?

RegDwigнt

I really do not know.

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt Something on the moon?

RegDwigнt

It is actual proper tea, though. Not some Teebeutel nonsense.

Cerberus

20:34

Of the moon?

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus yes, Know-It-Nothing on the Moon.

Cerberus

Of course. Theezakjes are low quality tea and/or exposed to air.

Ahh.

RegDwigнt

That's the name of the character in the blue hat.

Cerberus

Is "ne-" the negation?

RegDwigнt

Yup.

Notknower.

Cerberus

20:35

@RegDwigнt Yeah I figured.

Cool.

So the -n- part of the old root for "know" is also preserved in the Russian.

RegDwigнt

Yup. -Zn-.

Cerberus

Know, kennen, gnosis, recognosco...

So the -z- is probably a reflex of the -g-?

RegDwigнt

Dunno. Could look up. But busy making tea and playing Three.

Cerberus

The Proto-Indo-European root was probably something like *gn(o)-.

Yeah never mind.

RegDwigнt

> Происходит от праслав. , от кот. в числе прочего произошли: др.-русск. и ст.-слав. знати, знаѭ, русск. знать, укр. знати, белор. знаць, болг. зная, сербохорв. зна̏ти, зна̑м, словенск. znati, znȃm, др.-чешск. znáti, znaju, чешск. znáti, словацк. znаť, польск. znać, в.-луж. znać, н.-луж. znaś.

> Родственно лит. žinóti, žinaũ «знать», латышск. zināt zinu, др.-прусск. ersinnat «узнать», др.-инд. jānā́ti «знает», страд. jñāyátē, др.-перс. adānā «он узнал», д.-в.-н. irknâan «узнавать» (из *knējan), греч. γιγνώσκω «узнаю» (аор. ἔγνω: ст.-слав. аор. позна), лат. nōscō, алб. njoh «знаю, узнаю», готск. kann «знаю», тохарск. knan «знать». Вероятно, восходит к индоевроп. *ǵen- «знать», тождественно *ǵen- «рождать(ся)» и происходит из этого последнего.

So γιγνώσκω and even Sinn.

Though that's Fasmer, so take that with a grain of salt.

He found a German ancestor for every single Russian word.

Cerberus

20:42

Huh, Sinn?

That's odd!

Sentio, "to feel, understand".

I guess that makes some sense!

RegDwigнt

Yeah I'm not buying the Sinn.

Cerberus

Pun intended!

Let me look up the etymology of zin.

RegDwigнt

Mar 13 '11 at 15:32, by RegDwight

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Cerberus

> Pgm. *sinn- < ouder *senn- is verwant met: Grieks (h)anúnai, (h)anú(t)ein ‘volbrengen’; Sanskrit sanóti ‘verkrijgt’; Oudiers seinnid ‘bereiken’; Hittitisch sanahzi ‘zoekt’; bij de wortel pie. *senh2- ‘verkrijgen, bereiken’ (Eichman 1973, LIV 532, Bjorvand/Lindeman).
Een andere, vaak genoemde reconstructie is pgm. *sinþna- (o.a. FvW, Seebold 1970, Pfeifer), met vereenvoudiging van -nþn- tot -nn-, waarbij men aanknoping zoekt bij Latijn sentīre ‘waarnemen, ervaren’ (zie sentiment) en/of bij zenden en gezin. Onder andere vanwege de aannames over betekenisontwikkeling die hierbij gemaakt moet…

RegDwigнt

Sanskrit sanóti sounds a heck of a lot like Russian znati.

Cerberus

20:45

"Proto-Indo-European *senh2- 'acquire, achieve'."

"Proto-Germanic *sinþna- is unlikely."

@RegDwigнt Hmm...

The EWN has no comparative info for Slavic in this entry.

Cerberus

21:28

> 3471

This was about the 8th game I played.

I think I got a 192.

RegDwigнt

Excellent.

I still can't get a 384.

In fact I keep getting just 400 points.

Got some 4200 right now, but that was an outlier.

skullpatrol

is an out lier someone who lies outside?

RegDwigнt

Yes, he only tells the truth inside.

skullpatrol

hmmm...

Cerberus

log2(192/3)=6

I bet log2(384/3) = 7.

@RegDwigнt So the answer is 7.

google.com/search?q=log2%28384/…

skullpatrol

21:34

is that log base 2?

Cerberus

Yes.

You like it?

skullpatrol

yes

Cerberus

Thought so.

skullpatrol

why?

RegDwigнt

@Cerberus the answer to what?

Cerberus

21:38

To 384.

You need 7 combinations, not 6.

7.

RegDwigнt

Yes, but who was phone?

Cerberus

Over 9000.

skullpatrol

9000/0

Cerberus

So now you know how to get your 384: just combine a tile 7 times. OK?

@skullpatrol That's cheating!

skullpatrol

:D

@Cerberus that log is not base 2

Cerberus

21:42

Sure it is.

Click the Google link, I checked.

skullpatrol

i did

it uses base 10

Cerberus

Why would you think that?

2⁷=384/3

It's really simple.

@RegDwigнt Look, I'm following your advice.

KitFox

What the hell kind of broody O-face is @skull sporting today?

skullpatrol

:D

Cerberus

> 3471

@RegDwigнt The problem with your technique is that eventually you run out of space.

RegDwigнt

21:54

@Cerberus no, that is the problem with any technique.

That is how the game works.

So the goal is to find a technique in which you run out of space slower.

In my technique, you try to build a chain, with the highest number firmly put in one corner.

So as soon as you get a 3, you immediately combine it to a 6 which you then combine to a 12 combine to a 24 to a 48. You go straight through the chain with no stops. In five moves, you clear five tiles.

That is the only way to keep up with new files constantly coming in.

3089 points.

Der Erfolg gibt mir recht!

Cerberus

But how do you avoid getting something like in my screenshot?

It's hard to get a 12 there.

Without messing up the order of low → high in the direction of your chosen corner.

Or do you just do one direction?

The other direction can have 6,3,24,12,96?

skullpatrol

@KitFox what is an "O-face"?

KitFox

!!define o-face

KitSox

@KitFox o-face (sexuality, slang) the facial expression made during sexual climax (orgasm)

skullpatrol

:-O

-_-

Jasper Loy

22:23

@KitFox I wonder if it applies to both sexes, hmm.

Cerberus

22:48

@RegDwigнt I got a 384! Score 7520.

@RegDwigнt Looking at what kind of piece will be next is key, I find.

Especially to stay alive in the late game.

skullpatrol

sort of like chess...

MrHen

@JasperLoy Are you wondering if both sexes have o-faces?

Cerberus

Hey Mr Cock!

I mean, Hen.

I'm British, you see.

MrHen

@Cerberus Hello. :)

What is this Threes?

Stack Exchange

23:07

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RegDwigнt

@Cerberus huh what. I got that score without getting a 384. Interesting.

MrHen

23:22

So... for threes... is there any way to predict which column you'll get the new tile after pressing Left or Right?

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt 8278. With 384.

@MrHen It will come from the opposite direction in which you're moving the tiles.

MrHen

@Cerberus Which one of the opposites? There are four.

Cerberus

@MrHen Oh, OK, no, it can be any of 1 to 4 squares.

MrHen

@Cerberus mmk

Cerberus

But only one column/row.

RegDwigнt

23:28

Haha, just got a score of 177.

Oh my.

And now 169.

A new record.

151!

Mitch

23:49

@Cerberus I got 9. Is that good?

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