English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

tchrist

21:26

@JohanLarsson No, coming up through the floor.

Because the water table is really, really high, about halfway to Uranus, as they say.

Johan Larsson

Basement is not a good design in general, think it is rare to build them now

Do you have wood/organic materials on the walls?

Mahnax

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Ooh, yummy.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@Mahnax it is!

Having some now.

tchrist

@JohanLarsson Huh? Never heard of such a thing that is is “rare” to build a basement!!

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

It is in Texas.

tchrist

21:38

You can’t there.

No dirt.

Just rock.

Different situation.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

You can't even bury people in Louisiana.

Johan Larsson

It is now in Sweden

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

So I've heard.

tchrist

It is standard to have a basement here.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Here, too.

Johan Larsson

21:39

it is considered an anti-pattern here I think

but I'm no expert

tchrist

They just declared that schools wouldn’t open before Wednesday now. Today has been a set-back.

And today’s rain has put us on the verge of breaking our all-time annual precipitation record.

And it is still summer, not even fall let alone winter.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@tchrist Does that include all the damn snow from earlier this year?

tchrist

Yes.

Well, since January 1st.

And I got 7 feet between March 1st and May 1st.

Johan Larsson

do they build flat roofs on new houses also?

tchrist

Would you build a flat roof in places that get 10 feet of snow in a normal year, and far more than that in an abnormal one?

Johan Larsson

21:47

no, they did it in the sixties in some places. Another anti-pattern

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

We have flat-roof houses for some reason. Not very many.

tchrist

Then we don’t do flat rooves.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I saw a guy up on his with a squeegee once.

Johan Larsson

hej @MårtenW

Mårten W

@JohanLarsson: hej

in English perhaps?

Johan Larsson

21:51

they gotta learn Swedish

Mårten W

not as universally useful

tchrist

> Reporter on 7News saying she and her cameraman saw a mountain lion running down College Ave a few minutes ago.

Tasty coëds.

Johan Larsson

@MårtenW not with that attitude :D

Mårten W

@JohanLarsson: are you studying English in some organised manner?

university courses and the like

Johan Larsson

@MårtenW no, I'm old, graduated from uni 2003, been unlearning since then, accelerating at the moment. Not interested in language really but like this chat.

lots of commas in that one

Mårten W

21:57

@JohanLarsson: I took the introductory course in English at LU back in the autumn of 2011, and did not continue

@JohanLarsson: If I had had an infinite amount of time I would have gone on, and probably tried some other languages as well

Johan Larsson

I newer took any language courses while at uni, the literature was mostly in English though.

Mårten W

what field did you study, then?

Johan Larsson

Master in mechanical engineering

Mårten W

ah, a fellow engineer :)

I'm doing robotics research :)

Johan Larsson

phd?

Mårten W

22:02

yes

Johan Larsson

nice, sounds fun

Mårten W

it's very stimulating work

Johan Larsson

You know your Denavit–Hartenberg parameters then

Mårten W

I've heard the term, and I have some kind of grasp..

my focus is computer vision, so it's mostly mathematics

Johan Larsson

nice, sounds like you want to work where I work

Mårten W

22:07

which is? ABB?

Johan Larsson

Sandvik, can't tell much more here

Mårten W

ah

Johan Larsson

what language do you program in?

I've played around a little with Halcon from C# at work

Mårten W

mostly python, but c and c++ are nice for some things

python has very nice plotting capabilities, and it's easy to do matrix computations

Johan Larsson

I never used Python, it has been on my list for a while, hear nice things about it

Do you use any libraries for the vision stuff?

Mårten W

22:13

I use opencv a lot

often there are nontrivial tasks which are not exactly the focus of my research, and it's nice to have state-of-the-art implementations ready to be used without going into the details

but I should be going.. time to sleep

bye

Johan Larsson

nite

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@tchrist BST alert

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Q: Allow Entrance Into

I have a question about some usage problem: The door allows entrance into the building. The ticket allows entrance into the building. Sentence 1 seems good English. But sentence 2 seems weird. A ticket is not in the same class of objects as a door. A ticket does not physically block a...

Johan Larsson

This question appears to be off-topic because it was posted by a banned spammer troll. — cornbread ninja 麵包忍者 2 mins ago

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Indeed.

Johan Larsson

how could you tell?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

22:28

Firstly, his titles are almost always a clue.

Most of his questions are about prepositions.

Johan Larsson

you are not worried about a false positive?

kinda harsh welcome to SE if you were wrong

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Truth.

tchrist

Got ’em, thanks.

So transparent.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Two Ns, evenn.

tchrist

Againn.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

22:32

@JohanLarsson go get yourself a flag if you want.

Johan Larsson

I don't have an account

tchrist

I wonder when I’ll pass @Sim.

The wizened up to the double-flag trick, though.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@tchrist sim had 500 flags before being elected mod.

I suppose you meant BST flags, though.

tchrist

No, she didn’t. She had like 947. :)

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

O_O

tchrist

22:35

I have 836.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I'm still under 250. ._.

I'll have 240 whenever this is addressed.

tchrist

You know, I do have believe that I’ve just come up with another curious feature or three for to train my expert-system on.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

You don't say.

tchrist

Trivial to feed that to a machine-learning algorithm.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

I want to be the 5th Marshal.

Johan Larsson

22:38

the question is fine in itself right?

tchrist

@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Endeavour to persevere.

@JohanLarsson This is an excuse?

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

@tchrist I shall.

Johan Larsson

@tchrist a lame one. For some reason I feel I should not have an ELU account, would be hubris.

tchrist

@JohanLarsson Oh. I see. That is a respectable position, and I commend you. However, do you know how many utter and completely blathering analphabetic idiots have accounts there?

Q: How high’s the water now, Mable?

A: Up halfway between Saturn and Neptune, Otis.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Oh dear.

tchrist

22:43

Boulder Creek is risen again.

So.

Tired.

Johan Larsson

@tchrist Sounds like there are a couple, ELU does not need one more.

tchrist

Of.

This.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

spam has no wiki summary, will you help us create it?

tchrist

Heh.

cornbread ninja 麵包忍者

Dinner time.

Johan Larsson

22:47

@tchrist can't even imagine

tchrist

Video from Jamestown.

Roads chewed up like sand castles, like so many tales of lives writ in water.

That doesn’t yet count today. Normal is the data at 9/10. From here.

Johan Larsson

Cubic feet per second?

tchrist

A lot of the waterways lost their sensors.

Yes.

Cubic feet, but yes.

Johan Larsson

ty

log scale would probably be a nicer fit

Looked up the number, like Lainioälven in summer

Found a somewhat interesting fact, looks like high flow in spring is about 10x normal flow on average

tchrist

23:10

Interesting.

Johan Larsson

this place is a decent match for 140 m^3/s

tchrist

> Estimated 35 bridges need repair; 100 minor structures; estimated 100 miles of road damaged. Estimated $100-150 million in damage. Focus is to gain access to all communities by road.

Johan Larsson

@tchrist data here, if you bother translating they publish a lot of historical data.

Cerberus

A controlled spill is even better than a regular non-breaching spill.

Johan Larsson

high capacity emergency tunnels from the dams to the sea could be an effective way to mitigate disaster in the future

Cerberus

23:20

But a tunnel of several thousand km...

Johan Larsson

it needs no pumps

Cerberus

I don't know...

The inclination may be too low for the water to stream away.

Johan Larsson

they make tunnels from the dams already, my dad used to work in constructing them long ago

Cerberus

Over a short distance, right?

Johan Larsson

dunno how long they were, probably very expensive

Cerberus

23:22

A tunnel of a few hundred metres is already quite expensive.

Johan Larsson

yes

Cerberus

A canal is cheaper.

And you only need to reach a lower region, not the sea.

Johan Larsson

canal has the erosion problem but sure

Cerberus

Or, rather sedimentation.

Just like a tunnel.

Johan Larsson

@Cerberus I mean water escaping and cutting through the walls

Cerberus

23:26

Walls?

Johan Larsson

walls of the canal

Cerberus

If they are eroded, there will be more sand beyond them?

Johan Larsson

the water deciding to make a new path

Cerberus

That takes a very long time.

Johan Larsson

not when it rains like in Boulder I think

Cerberus

23:28

They require occasional maintenance.

If the canal becomes broader in a certain area, that's not a huge problem.

Just don't build a road next to it.

But maybe canals are still too expensive.

Johan Larsson

there is an upside to the tunnels, nice efficiency for the power generation

probably not enough to pay for them though

Cerberus

@JohanLarsson How do you mean?

If there is a nearby area where you could dump the excess water, and it leads through a narrow area of high rocks, then, sure, you can dig a tunnel.

So where do the tunnels lead to that you mentioned?

Johan Larsson

@Cerberus minimal flow losses, should enable nice % of potential energy turned into electricity. Guessing a bit here

Cerberus

If you have a situation like the one I described, sure.

Johan Larsson

@Cerberus did not find anything other than that it is 173 m below the level of the dam

Cerberus

23:42

> Fallhöjd

Nice.

So apparently there is a much lower areas close by, and the water will do no damage there.

And a canal may be more expensive if the rocks are very high.

Johan Larsson

16 km long 11*11 m cross section. strange that it is not circular

Cerberus

So then you dig a tunnel, why not?

Hmm.

Drills are normally circular, this is true.

Perhaps it was sawed rather than dug?

16 km is long!

Johan Larsson

it says they used dynamite to make it

Cerberus

Ah.

Johan Larsson

wonder if they would do that today

Cerberus

23:45

Use dynamite?

BRB

Johan Larsson

@Cerberus it was done with the sole purpose of efficiency, I think.

@Cerberus yeah, feels like they drill most things today

tchrist

@JohanLarsson And who is going to build a 2,000 mile tunnel to the sea?

Johan Larsson

@tchrist dunno but you can buy the drill(s) from my company

lemme know if you need quotation

and what color

*the company I work for

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