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12:04 PM
Oh good.
And thank you.
AND THERE WERE BIRTHDAY MUNCHKINS!
Best birthday ever, so far.
I don't know how you can beat that.
 
I have no idea what birthday munchkins are.
 
I can't use this Google+.
I congratulated Kit earlier today, now I see it on my wall but not on hers. In fact, there are no walls. Just some random pages scattered around places.
 
@DavidWallace Munchkins are Dunkin Donuts branded donut holes.
 
Well, TIL.
 
@RegDwighт Well, thanks! I don't know how to use it either on account for being over 30.
 
12:11 PM
Is this public in any shape way form or manner?
 
That is a very long way to say Happy Birthday.
 
Oh, so it is.
 
I can see it, but I was just looking at it.
I mean, signed in and through my account.
It says shared privately.
 
You should get up to full speed on Russian, then watch that cartoon. It's the Soviet Winnie the Pooh in case you can't tell. AND ITS AWESOMJUCE.
You would love it.
And the birthday wishes are his birthday wishes. To the Donkey, I think...
 
Holy crap. I guess I should make some time to study Russian at Middlebury. I could maybe go to summer school.
 
12:14 PM
Hurry up, summer's almost over.
 
Next summer. This summer I have to sell my house.
 
To each summer his own.
 
Did you know I love Pooh?
 
Well. Even if I didn't, that wouldn't be exactly hard to guess, would it now.
 
Really?
 
12:15 PM
@RegDwighт Yeah, in Russia it's almost over.
 
@Robusto in Germany it ain't even begun.
 
Happy birthday Kit!
 
Thanks.
 
Since when are y'all using Google+?
 
12:16 PM
I'm getting the weird FB birthday greetings from people I haven't otherwise heard from.
 
Yeah, those are nice.
 
@Cerberus since you are not using it. It's a conspiracy. Against you.
 
Also, an electronic card from my BiL's girlfriend.
 
Well, I am technically on it, just so that I can write reviews in Google's shop.
 
Holy moly. Abort! Abort! Guys! Move to Geocities!
 
12:17 PM
Electronic card, people still send those?
 
snickers
 
Jinx!
 
I'm on Google Plus, but I don't know how to find my profile without logging in...
 
Ah HA!
 
Protip: If you want to avoid NSA spying, get a MySpace page.
 
12:17 PM
I set all the settings to "off/no/never".
 
Wait. That's not incriminating.
 
@MattЭллен you can't find your profile without logging in. You also can't find it after logging in. But for that you have to log in first.
 
Too late. I already didn't
 
> Matt Ellen - 7 hebben deze persoon in kringen
Wow. Just wow.
 
12:18 PM
yep
 
Kringen. LOOOOOOL
 
all of that
 
Apparently, they Google-translated that website.
@RegDwighт I know!!
 
Reg, Reg, all the way.
 
kringen isn't circles?
 
12:19 PM
Protip for Google: don't use your own websites SVP.
@MattЭллен It can be, but it sounds silly.
 
@KitFox will watch at home. Here, 22 seconds of commercials, then Flash crash.
 
Translating stuff from one culture into another often fails hard.
 
Did I mention YouTube, Firefox, and Ubuntu suck each other's balls?
 
How?
 
@Cerberus what should they say?
 
12:20 PM
+1 for pointing out the difference between translation and localization. It's not that important in the context of desktop applications, but it is a huge issue on the Web and in print. There is an enormous difference between translating a phrase willy-nilly, translating it really well, and coming up with a set of completely different phrases that are tailored to various nationalities but still convey the same basic idea. — RegDwighт Sep 16 '10 at 18:00
 
@MattЭллен You can't, really. It is all so vulgar.
 
@MattЭллен something with prachtig. And lullen.
 
@RegDwighт Exactly. And the last option often isn't even possible.
Maybe "groep" would be acceptable.
 
so they should say circle since it's a Google appropriation of the word, anyway?
 
Why are you using Firefox with Ubuntu? Oughtn't you be using Konqueror or something?
 
12:22 PM
But the whole stupid advertising aura that clings to it is just plain stupid in English, let alone in Dutch.
 
Groepie's.
 
@Cerberus that sounds like group which is different to a Google+ circle
 
How?
@RegDwighт We call those groupies.
 
@MattЭллен nobody even knows what a Google+ circle is. Because nobody is on Google+.
 
Matt's wall looks interesting.
 
12:23 PM
@Cerberus but but but, the pronunciation, wouldn't the ie become short without an apostrophe?
 
Or whatever non-FB thing they call that.
 
And, remember, you don't need an apostrophe when the final vowel is always long!
 
@Cerberus marketing
 
@RegDwighт Ding!
 
@Cerberus ah, so I got it exactly backwards or what?
 
12:23 PM
@KitFox thanks :D
 
@RegDwighт Nope. Ie is long i. It can't become short.
 
Okay okay okay.
 
You got some kind of problem with short?
 
@Cerberus Word. This is precisely the problem with A>B translation. You have to know how language B would express a concept in a particular cultural situation.
 
See, that's why I didn't want to use groupies and opted for prachtig.
 
12:24 PM
Sometimes there is no equivalent.
 
Heh.
 
Some Whorfs dress in satin.
Others are tapirs.
 
@Robusto Exactly. And it many cases language B would just not talk about it.
 
@RegDwighт What's the point of having groupies if you can't use them?
 
@Robusto ask teh Dutsch.
 
12:25 PM
Mmm, groupies.
 
@RegDwighт I'd rather say it is the other way around, or arbitrary.
 
@KitFox tastier than munchkins?
 
I shall have a wireless controller instead.
 
@KitFox see, and you were wondering how it could get better. You're welcome.
 
I don't think my husband got me any groupies.
 
12:25 PM
But I must be preparing for a marketing meeting.
 
@KitFox weighs benefits of groupies vs. wireless controllers, opts for groupies
 
A what meeting?
Poor you.
 
Exactly.
 
OK bye. Thanks for the greeting. I liked it.
 
And you need to prepare for that?
 
12:26 PM
Prepare as in close this tab and stand up.
 
Oh haha.
 
@Cerberus Drinking is a part of preparation.
 
OK then.
 
@Cerberus also, "Google Groups" is a different thing entirely to Google+
 
@Robusto Now that I could understand.
 
12:27 PM
@MattЭллен I only use Google Wave.
 
@MattЭллен Is it?
 
I have no idea what all the Google crap means anymore. They're always changing it. I just try to ignore it.
 
I only use Google search.
 
@Cerberus yes, groups is a bunch of mailing lists.
 
Okay, and a few more things.
@MattЭллен Ugh.
 
12:27 PM
I don't even use the Google search. I just ask the NSA directly.
 
I don't often search, but when I do, I use Google.
 
@Robusto +1
 
Thankfully, we now have Google Hangouts, Talk, Voice, Messaging, Chat, and Gmail.
All used to...send messages.
 
In different ways!
 
@RegDwighт You search on nsa.com?
(I'm assuming it has .com, since they mainly spy for trade secrets and negotiations.)
By the way, @Jez, I hope you weren't suggesting English/world football was any less commercial??
 
12:31 PM
We have all these messaging services when what we really need is a good, cheap massaging service.
 
@Cerberus .gov, silly.
Mmm, massage.
 
@KitFox Same thing.
 
I just got a very affectionate birthday-wishing email from my FiL.
I feel weird about that.
Actually, I think I just feel generally weird about my birthday.
 
what is weird about it?
it's raining, btw
 
Was it "let's snuggle up"?
 
12:35 PM
@MattЭллен It's like I want attention and not all at the same time.
@Cerberus No, less creepy than that.
 
Hehe.
"I look forward to the next baby"?
 
@Cerberus You're a sick man.
 
Thanks!!
 
It makes me miss my dad, and I don't feel that close to my FiL, but it was nice for him to remember me.
 
Aww.
 
12:37 PM
@KitFox You want good attention but no bad attention?
 
No! Stop looking at me!
Maybe I need more coffee.
 
creepy stare
 
spittake
Matthew Edward!
mops up keyboard
 
@KitFox You could have warned me. I was standing very close.
 
12:38 PM
@MattЭллен See what you did? You gave me Mom power over you by revealing your full name.
 
So you're not just ME, you're MEE!
 
Smee!
 
Sir Matty Micklesworth.
 
12:40 PM
Mattford von Kreigshelm.
 
Matthias is a very German name.
 
@KitFox nah. my mum never says that. Come to think of it I don't recall ever have all three names used in anger... I was such a good child.
 
Mattalupe Ciudad y Gringellen.
 
@MattЭллен I'm imagining the sound of it though.
 
@MattЭллен Your mum might not, but you recognize the power.
 
12:41 PM
Matthew Edward Ellen, leave your sister alone and come here immediately!
 
@KitFox true, true
 
You have to imagine me doing the voice.
 
My husband wanted to name our second child "Finn" but I said no. It's got to be longer than that.
 
And probably without the beard.
 
@DavidWallace lol. that's weird
 
12:42 PM
Finn Fox has a nice ring to it.
 
So it was either Finnegan or Finnian.
 
@KitFox I agree.
 
Finnegan Dexter Fox! Get off your brother's head right now!
 
Dexter Finnegan.
 
I have a friend with only one name, which happens to be Matthijs.
 
12:43 PM
So that when he's a lawyer, he can sign letters D. Finnegan Fox.
 
It sucks to have only one initial.
 
@Cerberus What, no surname?
 
Yes, he does have a surname, which happens to be a single syllable. But no middle names.
 
@Cerberus hmmm. I think one is better than two, but not as good as three
 
Heh.
 
12:44 PM
I have four.
 
I think 2+ is fine. 1 is a bit weird.
 
KDMF.
 
How very catholic!
 
KMFDM!
 
Hahaha
 
12:45 PM
I need perspective....
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Q: "Not a clue" vs. "no clue"

DerfderExample: — What is he called? — I have not a clue. — What is he called? — I have no clue. Are both versions grammatical in English? If they are, which one is preferred by native speakers in the US and the UK?

Nobody says out loud "I have not a clue", right?
 
I haven't got a clue.
 
My initials are XKCD.
 
The code base at work has all these "to do" comments. Suggestions for improvement. And lots of them say MCDS after them. I figured it stood for "maybe could do someday". Turns out it's the team leader's initials.
 
They'd only say "I have no clue".
 
@Cerberus oh, in that case two is better than one.
 
12:45 PM
ok or what you said Kit.
 
@DavidWallace Haha.
 
@MattЭллен Indeed.
 
Oh code base. That reminds me.
 
@DavidWallace Haha!
 
I can't believe I'm actually on track to finish these revisions by next Friday.
But that means I ought to work today.
 
12:46 PM
Friday is almost tomorrow.
 
@KitFox We can fix that by distracting you a whole lot, if you like.
 
@Mitch Except I'm off Thursday and Friday.
@DavidWallace Are you going to sing me Happy Birthday?
 
so....
 
Do you want a recording of me singing happy birthday?
 
oh, next Friday the one after this coming one?
 
12:47 PM
@DavidWallace I don't know.
@Mitch Yes, next Friday, not this Friday.
 
@DavidWallace Now you have to.
 
Earlier today, somebody told me I have a beautiful voice.
 
That sounds like a challenge.
Prove them one way or the other.
 
Oh my god, there's no tomatoes!
 
Haha, I baked a cake.
 
12:48 PM
That's not going to help with Friday.
 
But it's all gone now.
 
tomatoes don't go well in cake
 
Unless it's tomato cake.
then it's just right.
 
even then
 
@MattЭллен That's OK. There's no tomatoes. Oh my God.
 
12:49 PM
I'm not saying tomato cake is any good, just that a tomato cake without tomatoes just wouldn't be right,
Like sand cookies with no sand.
 
Do air guitars work on the moon?
 
Our pound cake with no pounds.
 
I hate sand cookies without sand. What's the point?
 
Or shortbread with no bread. I hate that.
 
or Chevy Chase when you're sat still
 
12:50 PM
26 mins ago, by KitFox
You got some kind of problem with short?
 
I hate sand cookies, because the name keeps telling me they're made out of sand. And I don't like sand in my cookies. You know, I have this thing about sand in my food.
 
that was my thought
 
Stupid sand.
 
I know.
If it were egg shells, that would be one thing, but sand? yechh
 
Oh FFS, now my light is flickering.
 
12:53 PM
Hearing about that is triggering my convulsions.
 
Do they taste better than mud cakes?
 
mudflaps heehee
 
That would suck to be synesthetic and epileptic, and what the hell, also a lucid dreamer. Pretty much anything could set you off, the smell of fried eggs cooking, a rainbow, dog breath.
 
@DavidWallace Thanks!
Um, are you in prison?
 
Now you can tell everyone that a naked man in another country sang for you.
 
12:57 PM
A naked NZer to boot.
 
I'm not comfortable anymore.
 
Were you before?
 
Umm, no, there is just a brick wall separating my flat from the adjoining one. Most of the walls in my flat don't look like that one.
 
You're such a scientist nerd!
 
@Mitch Who I?
 
12:58 PM
 
H aha, no Kit. Unless you want to be one too. A normal person wouldn't say that.
 
Pollution (algae) in China.
 
save that kid! he's drowning in green goop.
 
@Mitch Wouldn't say what? And what?
 
@Cerberus nice. it's eating that child. I didn't know it was carnivorous
 
12:59 PM
Why would you let your kid get in that and then take his picture?
 
@KitFox what? oh yeah it was in reference to "were you before?".
 
maybe they thought he was Jesus, but needed to check
 
@MattЭллен An alga has needs.
 

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