English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Cerberus

2:00 PM

@MattE.Эллен Right, right, I failed to make that (to me fine) distinction.

Which is interesting.

Mitch

@tchrist That's a tissyue of lies!

@KitZ.Fox Don't use Schweinsteiger

Sounds like a soccer player

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch I think that since the BBC has started to employ people with varying dialects in quite some number, RP has become less important

tchrist

Matt E. Эллен

but that's conjecture

tchrist

Thar be thine affricates, sibilant and otherwise.

Matt E. Эллен

2:04 PM

I'm struggling with a third pick for ELL's new mod...

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен In Harry Potter, everyone has a regional accent. Except HP, Hermione, and ... Voldemort

tchrist

Spanish has the voiced dorsal one [ɟʝ] as an allophone that occurs naturally in things like el yugo in the same way that English affricates did you without thinking.

Mitch

Coincidence?

Cerberus

@MattE.Эллен So am I.

I've cast two votes.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен I've read exactly that.

But it's so hard to tell, not being able to label the accents.

Matt E. Эллен

2:05 PM

@Mitch so... you're saying Voldemort is a half blood?! But wouldn't that invalidate all the Death Eater claims that full bloods are more powerful wizards and witches?

Mitch

@tchrist 1) that's not a plain fricative? 2) That's universal for Spanish, not just Mexico?

Matt E. Эллен

@Cerberus I should really participate there more often

Cerberus

And I.

tchrist

@Mitch It's not quite universal; for example, the rioplatense dialects have [ʒ] for phonemic /j/ everywhere, not just in emphatic position or after an /l/. But for the most part yes. It's certainly common in Spain and Mexico, at the very least.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен That would explain a lot. Hitler was Austrian, a German wannabe. Napoleon Corsican. Stalin Georgian. Genghis Khan wanted to be Chinese when he grew up so he ate the whole thing. Eisenhower from Kansas. All becomes clear.

@MattE.Эллен So what is the Weasley's accents? Ginger?

tchrist

2:12 PM

@Mitch The tale is longer than is comfy here in a single paste but....

> /ʝ/ es la mayoría de variantes una aproximante entre vocales en todos los contextos salvo después de una consonante nasal, /l/, o después de pausa, donde es una africada ([ɟʝ]).2 10
El alófono aproximante se diferencia de [j] de varias maneras; tiene un F2 de amplitud más baja, es más largo, puede aparecer solamente en inicio de sílaba (esto incluye inicio de palabra donde [j] no aparece), es una fricativa palatal sonora en pronunciaciones enfáticas, y no está especificado para el redondeo de los labios (e.g. viuda [ˈbjuða] vs ayuda [aˈʝʷuða]).11

Read the part past the clip.

Mitch

I think English does it only with 'you'. Or maybe that's the only /j/

tchrist

> Los dos también aparecen, y se solapan en la distribución, después de /l/ y */n/: enyesar [e̞ɲˈɟʝe̞saɾ] aniego [anje̞ɣo̞].

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch hmmm. They're a mishmash I would say. Ron's estuary, but not RP. Arthur is Birmingham, but weakened by years of working in London. I can't remember the rest.

tchrist

These is the same force that gave rise to words like añejo (think tequila).

Mitch

@tchrist oh. just the affricate in that position. elsewhere the fricative?

tchrist

2:14 PM

@Mitch Yeah.

Matt E. Эллен

I think Molly is the same as Ron

tchrist

But it depends on the speaker.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен Were those all intentional or just how they normally speak?

tchrist

It happens when people are excited or forceful.

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch how the actors speak, I think.

tchrist

2:14 PM

It is very common after /l/, and not uncommon after /n/.

My citations are from here in case you care.

Mitch

is the 'll' usually a fricative now? 'Como se [ʒama?' ?

Matt E. Эллен

Fred and George are midlands, too

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен brummie?

Matt E. Эллен

@Mitch I think so. it's very weak

tchrist

@Mitch Yes and no.

That's only in the rioplatense dialects where it is always always [ʒ], but that is not just Argentina alone.

Matt E. Эллен

2:19 PM

Ginnie is RP (at least in the interview of the actress), so maybe she's adopted?

Mitch

Wildly off topic... does anyone here know python?

Matt E. Эллен

yes

Mitch

@tchrist I'm being woefully uneducated here but the usual Mexican accent in the US tends to have lots of /ʒ/ in place of /j/ when speaking English, like whenever they say 'you' it sounds like /ʒu:/ or /dʒu:/. So the naive thing is to overgeneralize and think they do it everywhere in Spanish too. But it seems like you're saying only in Uruguay/Argentina?

tchrist

The command ¡Llámame often has an affricated start, which your anglophone brain would map to [dʒ] but which technically is really [ɟʝ].

@Mitch It's pretty common, yes.

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен hahaha. one of those kids doesn't have red hair. you get locked in with the casting at one point.

tchrist

2:29 PM

@Mitch 🐍

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен OK. I feel like it is a syntactic one liner to get a list back from multiple indices. E.g I have {3,6,2} and the string 'abcdef' and I want to get 'cfb'.

is it as simple as 'abcdef'[x] where x is {3,6,2}?

Matt E. Эллен

hmmmm

Mitch

In some language somewhere that is the case (Scheme/Mathematica)

Matt E. Эллен

['abcdef'[x] for x in [3,6,2]]

I think

Mitch

Python doesn't really have arrays, does it? Just 'maps/hashtables/' that use array-like syntax, right?

@MattE.Эллен I will try that. I am 'programming by random perturbation' at the moment.

Which frankly is almost always.

Matt E. Эллен

2:32 PM

change [3,6,2] for [2,5,1]

strings being 0 indexed

Mitch

oh

Kit Z. Fox

@MattE.Эллен I was just going to mention that.

Mitch

stupid 0

Matt E. Эллен

:D I hadn't noticed before I ran it

Kit Z. Fox

IndexOutOfRange exception.

Or my favorite "why does this keep giving me one letter off the one I'm looking for??"

I've done both of those.

Matt E. Эллен

2:34 PM

yeah, it's lucky 6 was in there :D I'd have been stumped

''.join(['abcdef'[x] for x in [2,5,1]]) will get you a string not an array

Mitch

@MattE.Эллен nice...so that's what I keep seeing.

Tonepoet

@KitZ.Fox Uhm, given that you're informed regarding the situation with V0ight's post, I think you might be the best mod. to deal with this.

Kit Z. Fox

@Tonepoet Thanks.

Also, that seems like a duplicate question.

So I edited an answer that was flagged as VLQ to make it not VLQ, and it cleared the flag and downvoted the post. I'm annoyed by that.

Tonepoet

2:50 PM

That is strange. It vaguely reminds me of an answer I edited to include a citation. Granted, that might have been a human voting against it.

Kit Z. Fox

I suppose it could be coincidence.

Tonepoet

You would think that if it is the system though, that whomever designed it would realize that the edit probably solves the problem, hence negating the need for a vote.

Kit Z. Fox

I guess I can see that an edit means "yes, this was VLQ".

Lawrence

@JasperLoy Happy birthday! :)

Tonepoet

It penalizes the correction though.

Lawrence

2:53 PM

@JasperLoy I hope you had a pleasant day, regardless.

NVZ

@KitZ.Fox happens all the time! I'm also annoyed by that. I have read metas explaining why that is by design, but forgot it.

@KitZ.Fox yes, sort of.. that's the idea.

@Tonepoet if the correction improved the post, more people would upvote it eventually. or maybe not.

Tonepoet

@NVZ Even if they do, it seems like an injustice to have the system judge a post.

NVZ

@Tonepoet trade-offs. it is disappointing, yes.

One thing I can't fully fathom is how you people stay online chatting while you have jobs and family to keep you busy. :)

Tonepoet

3:14 PM

You're making assumptions that don't apply to me. =P

Helmar

Yay Tumbleweed

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Q: Intelligibility & Grammaticality of "Switch one's sth. to <adjective>"

I wanted to describe a helmet visor which can have separate settings, opaque and transparent. Thus I wrote the following sentence. She switched her visor to transparent. I thought it an ellipsis of a noun phrase: She switched her visor to the transparent mode. However after my spellch...

What should I change to attract more interest to my question? Ideas?

terdon

@Helmar Drop the Headline Style.

And what do you mean by "Intelligibility"?

Tonepoet

I don't know but I'd probably write "She switched her visor to transparency mode." The article may still technically be omitted though...

terdon

Hmm. I guess you meant intelligibility. That's a thing, after all. My bad!

Kit Z. Fox

She switched her visor to transparent. shrugs Sounds fine to me.

Switch is a little unusual, but I would think twice about it in a sci-fi story.

Helmar

3:20 PM

@terdon Seems the word is not real common than, good to know. I am no native speaker.

terdon

I think I'd probably use set instead of switch.

@Helmar Intelligible is common. Intelligibility less so.

Helmar

@terdon Set is a nice variation, I like that

NVZ

@Helmar you could add a bounty, clarify your question, etc.

terdon

Yeah, I think all your problems would go away if you just wrote she set her visor to transparent instead.

NVZ

@Helmar Or if you can't afford a bounty, you may ask high-rep users in chat to help you.

Helmar

3:21 PM

@KitZ.Fox The 'sounds fine to me' is what I meant with intelligibility :) Guess I stick to the adjective from now on

Matt E. Эллен

the female human changed the visual mode of her head apparatus to "transparent"

Helmar

@NVZ Damn, that's a revolutionary idea :)

Though I could without falling below 2k

@MattE.Эллен The human part is an assumption, albeit hitting the mark ;)

NVZ

@Helmar it's nothing new. I think if your question was a little more interesting to me personally, I'd be adding a bounty on it. :)

Matt E. Эллен

@Helmar phew! I don't mean to be speciesist

Helmar

Well I guess I'll find a better title for starters, that will bump it. Although I have to admit that from Friday on I was kinda gunning for the tumbleweed badge :D

NVZ

3:26 PM

@Helmar Chase good questions and answers, and badges will follow.

Helmar

@NVZ Well I there was a summer weekend keeping me from improving the question as well ;)

Well, thanks for the input, learned to stick to intelligible, found a new verb for my sentence and will edit the title to solve the initial mystery :)

Lawrence

@Helmar Avoid uncommon contractions (sth.), and rephrase the title so that it looks like a question instead of a section heading.

NVZ

@Helmar this comment by John Lawler, on my post, might be interesting to you.

Ellipsis isn't used a whole lot in syntax, actually. One refers to the kind of thing that's missing, or the variety of missingness that it has. See, for instance, "Deletion rules" on pages 6-9 of this list of English syntactic rules. — John Lawler 19 hours ago

Helmar

@NVZ I'll have a look

Tonepoet

I need to be more aware of what I'm reading before I comment.

Helmar

3:37 PM

@NVZ If it's not an ellipsis, what the hell did I do with the sentence? :D

And what's the tag for it?

@Tonepoet That's generally a good rule when writing or speaking ;)

Tonepoet

Am I the only one among us who hates the lack of space between a block quote and the following text? I always add a break return after my block quotes. I wish the margins were better.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

> If you think about it, Voldemort is no different from a teenage girl. He has a locket, a diary, a tiara, a pet, a teacup, a special ring and he's obsessed with a famous teenage guy.

Tonepoet

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Don't forget that he's also a horror to look at without any makeup. =P

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Nah, I remember being a teenage boy, makeup or lack of it never bothered me any

Tonepoet

Maybe if you could remember being teenage girl you'd be thinking about it differently. =P

Mitch

4:26 PM

I'm really curious about what SmokeDet removed. Something salacious I bet. About themselves.

NVZ

@Mitch new word today: salacious: "having or conveying undue or indecent interest in sexual matters." :)

tchrist

@Mitch Spam

NVZ

@tchrist yes, but why would smokey withdraw that msg?

tchrist

If it gets deleted in time.

Or somebody in ChHQ || Tavern twiddles something.

Lawrence

No sense in preserving a link to spam, I suppose.

NVZ

4:30 PM

Oh, so it retracts such messages after a post gets at least one "spam" flag, eh? :)

Mitch

@NVZ or maybe prurient. SD is always into stuff like that.

terdon

@NVZ I deleted it. I (mistakenly) thought it was a wrong call. It is actually spam though. My bad!

Should have looked more closely.

Mitch

Despite SD being so pervy, I think they'd make a perfectly fine moderator.

Can we get them to nominate themselves like a week ago?

NVZ

@terdon oh, you're not a mod in this community, yet you have the power? I see. :)

DEAD

@NVZ a mod in one site is a mod in the whole chat

terdon

4:34 PM

@NVZ Yes, all SE mods are also chat mods network-wide. With the exception of chat.so and chat.mse which run on different domains.

Lawrence

@Mitch Mods are supposed to be human and exception handlers. Unfortunately, SD is neither.

Mitch

@KitZ.Fox I know! They are entirely lacking in ruth.

NVZ

@Mitch yea, I'm working on that time machine.

tchrist

@NVZ A chat mod is a chat mod. There are only a few little-used special things that differ if you're actually a site mod for the room that the chat is bound to.

chat.so mods are also chat.se mods; chat.mse mods are also chat.so mods and thence also chat.se mods.

NVZ

I see.

Kit Z. Fox

4:36 PM

@Mitch ruth?

Lawrence

Reference to ruthless.

Mitch

@KitZ.Fox I realize that you are attempting to ut words in 'her' mouth. But really why does 'she' (if you can continue to attempt to speak for her) have such difficulty with comments that provide answers?

NVZ

So... Reck from reckless, similarly?

tchrist

@terdon Thanks.

Mitch

@Lawrence That's so roboticist!

Kit Z. Fox

4:37 PM

@Mitch I can elaborate when I'm back from lunch.

Mitch

@NVZ Thanks! Or rather, thanks in advance to the past

NVZ

@Lawrence Does smokey obey the laws of robotics?

Mitch

@NVZ gruntle from disgruntled

Lawrence

@Mitch Well, if SD actually handled some exceptions, we might consider an exception.

@NVZ Arguably, it violates the second law. Have you tried telling SD to do anything?

Mitch

@NVZ Currently created robots follow the 3 laws only be accident. Those car assembling robots just have signs on them 'Stay away when in operation'.

NVZ

4:40 PM

I can't see a link to all my "self-removed" flags. Can you guys see yours?

Lawrence

Three Laws of Robotics

The Three Laws of Robotics (often shortened to The Three Laws or Three Laws, also known as Asimov's Laws) are a set of rules devised by the science fiction author Isaac Asimov. The rules were introduced in his 1942 short story "Runaround", although they had been foreshadowed in a few earlier stories. The Three Laws, quoted as being from the "Handbook of Robotics, 56th Edition, 2058 A.D.", are: A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First...

tchrist

@NVZ For FMTEYEWTK on Smokey.

DEAD

@NVZ ?

NVZ

@DEAD I see a question mark, and no words there.

Mitch

@DEAD ?? I can't see what you've linked to.

DEAD

4:42 PM

What's a self-removed flag

?

NVZ

@DEAD oh. it's a new feature. You can now retract flags that you've cast.

Mitch

Im excited to see the election results. Only three hours!

DEAD

Why would you have a link to a list of things you didn't act upon?

Mitch

I just finished reading all the essays.

and voted

Lawrence

@NVZ Also sounds like flags that mysteriously remove themselves.

Mitch

4:43 PM

I chose Pikachu

@DEAD You don't get it, do you?

terdon

@DEAD The system does have that, actually. Mods can see "user removed" next to flags that were, well, user removed, when looking at a user's profile. I don't know if the user can see them anywhere though. Probably in your own profile.

NVZ

@Lawrence well, you can try it out. Next time you flag something, try to flag again. You'll be given an option to "retract flag"

Mitch

That's like when kids yell bad things at each other and one says "You take that back!"

Lawrence

@NVZ Only kidding. That's actually a good feature.

Mitch

How can you unsay something?

NVZ

4:45 PM

@Mitch with the time machine, duh :)

Mitch

You meant it then, but now you don't?

@NVZ Oh. Haha. Then I take back what I said

NVZ

I'm actually living this very day over and over again.

Like, Groundhog day or something. :P

DEAD

@Mitch I don't get it, do I?

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 wait... a teacup?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch I guess that's Helga Hufflecup's cup

I never pictured it as a teacup

but then again I didn't write that youtube comment I quoted either

Lawrence

4:47 PM

@DEAD In this kind of information management, 1-1 != 0.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh. It's like book 7 zipped through a bunch of the horcruxes like afterthoughts. I totally forgot about that one. (and even now I'm having trouble remembering it)

How dare they flag as 'not a word' horcrux?

@JasperLoy do you like spicy or not? If so is breakfast ever spicy?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch yeah, remember in book 6 when that one horcrux was crazy hard to get to? It took the greatest wizard alive, and his good luck charm, to get it, and they barely got out alive. The other ones were just sorta lying around.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Just because of that, I am never reading that again.

At least not in one sitting

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

lol. My 8yo reads it in one sitting. You should be able to do it in less.

Lawrence

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Wasn't it the dud (no, the other dud) that was crazy hard to access in the story?

Mitch

4:52 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 the diary I think was OK

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Lawrence beside the point.

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Wow. Not the whole series I hope.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch it was totally unprotected. Although it was also weaponized to some degree... still some lucky 12-year-olds were able to beat it.

Mitch

#5 was difficult to get through. too much whining about being a teenager

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Being 'the one' is not luck.

NVZ

@Mitch let me in? What are we talking about?

Mitch

4:54 PM

Wait, yeah it totally is.

@NVZ The Harry Potter series

NVZ

Oh, nice. :)

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch he didn't beat it because he was "the one". He beat it because a phoenix came up and pecked out the monster's eyes and then healed his fatal wounds.

Mitch

I wonder where JK Rowling goes for vacation. Blackpool?

tchrist

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A: Is 'petrichor' the only noun in English that means a specific scent?

Here's a good one I believe: Decomposition?

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 nobody complains that HP was written about a boy by a woman. Wouldn't she have more insight into being a girl?

I take that back. Look at the bottom line.

By that I mean the last line of the book.

It's a 'horcrux' about being a boy trapped in a girl's body acting like a boy.

@tchrist haha.

but seriously, I just thought of one... rancid.

"That smells rancid"

Kit Z. Fox

4:59 PM

@tchrist fetid comes to mind

Mitch

ha! another!

Kit Z. Fox

Dolorous

Mitch

'funky' was originally a smell but now means 'cool'

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mitch Actually lots of people complained that she should have made the hero a girl.

terdon

@KitZ.Fox That isn't a specific smell though. Various things can be fetid smells.

Mitch

5:00 PM

@KitZ.Fox I had an aunt named that!

Kit Z. Fox

Mildewy

Mitch

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh.

@KitZ.Fox too transparent. or 'thingy'. what's the word for when a thing that has the property is used as the property itsef?

Kit Z. Fox

@terdon it is as specific as petrichor.

Mitch

like "that is blood colored"

terdon

> The distinctive scent which accompanies the first rain after a long warm dry spell.

Mitch

5:01 PM

@terdon No it's perfect. Petrichor is a made up word anyway.

terdon

That seems pretty specific.

Kit Z. Fox

Synedoche?

Mitch

@KitZ.Fox yeah, like that town in upstate New York.

Except I thought there was a less technical term.

tchrist

Schenectady?

Mitch

or less greek sounding

tchrist

5:02 PM

damn you

Kit Z. Fox

Look, I woo

Mitch

Yeah we know you woo

Kit Z. Fox

D argue but I'm on mobile

Mitch

D too but that's no excuse

terdon

l

Kit Z. Fox

5:03 PM

And eating a sandwich and swiping text using my non dominant pointer

terdon

everyone always forgets the poor l

Mitch

smutty

Kit Z. Fox

And my fingernails need a trim.

tchrist

’Bout time, you! :)

Where "you" is masculine.

Kit Z. Fox

So yeah, it's specific, as is "the smell of rotting meat".

Mitch

5:06 PM

@KitZ.Fox that's the worst. People are saying things that need replying to, but there's that crumb you can't get off your finger and dammit now it's on the screen and getting rid of it makes you call the president and now the secret service is running across the plaza towards you with 9 mms drawn and from the lip of the yogurt drink it's just about to drip one sploosh onto your screen and...

got it.. that goddam little crumb.

@terdon how crazily specific is not the point,

terdon

@Mitch Seemed to be the point of the question. And it's a neat question. I can't think of any other noun that means a specific smell.

Mitch

it's all about a word that describes a sense. vision has color words like red. hearing has loud, touch has rough, taste has bitter, smell has... nouns that have the property. "That smells like burnt toast"

Kit Z. Fox

I'm also trying to cram in the mental space of spiritually connecting to my father via our shared love of this kind of sandwich as a little celebration of the fact that I have some weird virus or fungus but probably not terminal cancer.

Mitch

checks for stroke symptoms

terdon

smells chicken

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

5:10 PM

Today I learned of a case where a guy got a brain tumour and it made him a pedophile. They removed the tumour and he got better. It grew back and he relapsed. they removed it again and he got better again.

Kit Z. Fox

Huh. Prefrontal?

Mitch

@KitZ.Fox Roast chicken smell is a symptom of prefrontal lesions?

@terdon red is pretty specific for vision don't you think.

Kit Z. Fox

Or just intracranial pressure removing his ability to control his actions?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitZ.Fox newscientist.com/article/…

> The cancer was located in the right lobe of the orbifrontal cortex

Mitch

@KitZ.Fox oh just finished reading transcript

terdon

5:13 PM

@Mitch For vision, sure. But I can't think of any equivalently specific term for smells.

Mitch

@terdon we've just come up with some

terdon

@Mitch Where?

Mitch

fetid, rancid

Kit Z. Fox

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I am so good.

@Mitch dolorous

terdon

@Mitch Neither is specific though. I can think of multiple, different smells I could describe as either fetid or rancid.

Mitch

5:14 PM

@KitZ.Fox that sounds painful

literally

Kit Z. Fox

And those are adjectives, not nouns.

terdon

Those are adjectives describing the smell as opposed to nouns meaning that smell.

jinx!

Mitch

@KitZ.Fox and petrichor is a noun so really isn't a good sense word. "The petrichor wind reminded him of his childhood home"

that is, the neologism of 'petrichor' doesn't even do what it should do.

@terdon likewise with 'red' or 'bitter'

actually fetid and rancid are pretty specific.

Kit Z. Fox

Rock essence

Mitch

petrichor can only be used to speak of 1) a very uncommon state of affairs or 2) the act of naming a very uncommon state of affairs., and usually the latter.

How do you use 'petrichor' in a sentence?

tchrist

5:18 PM

@Mitch You just did.

Mitch

"'Petrichor' is the only word to describe a smell"

by quoting it!

You're not even using it.

tchrist

Azahar.

Cerberus

@Mitch So fetor and rancour seem suitable?

Mitch

@Cerberus 'rank'

but 'rancour' just means irascibleness or something like that

Cerberus

Is rank a noun?

Rancour can also mean a foul smell.

It's rare/old-fashioned.

Lawrence

5:21 PM

Time to go. Congratulations to the new mods once the results are announced.

Mitch

I just heard a movie critque introducing the Russian film studies vocabulary as 'fuh BOO luh' and 'SOO djet'

@Lawrence THey're going to have their hands full with the petrichor drama. Also cleaning up after that awful smell from the rocks after it rains.

@Cerberus I'm not old enough yet.

@tchrist Bless you.

NVZ

I was pinged by "The Overlook Hotel" room.

Don't know why. Did I sign up to get notified?

And also, there is no one active there. Looks like a ghost town.

Mitch

sound of everybody swooshing over to the Overlook

terdon

@NVZ You can't be pinged by a room. Did you receive a message along the lines of "You were mentioned in room X a room you're not currently in"?

NVZ

I saw a banner on my screen. Did not mention me by name, though.

terdon

5:28 PM

Ah. The "An event is starting in X minutes" thing?

Mitch

unswooshes

NVZ

yes.

terdon

OK. I don't know how those work, really

Mitch

Magic

mostly

Kit Z. Fox

@Lawrence good luck!

Mitch

5:29 PM

some tinkering

NVZ

I believe in magic. I call it science that is yet to be explained. :)

Kit Z. Fox

@NVZ you must have subscribed to it.

Mitch

@NVZ The science of the gaps!

NVZ

@KitZ.Fox maybe I did. Don't recall doing it, however.

tchrist

gasps

Mitch

5:31 PM

Where is the oxygen mask? Stand back! Give him air!

NVZ

@tchrist I may be asleep when the results arrive. Congratulations in advance, mod sir! :)

tchrist

Mitch

Are there words for other senses that are nouns? 'Redness'? that shouldn't count because it is just word formation. I think the intent of the whole petrichor brouhaha is not for a noun, because most senses don't have nouns for sensory feeling but rather adjectives.

terdon

@Mitch The way I read the question was that the OP was intrigued by the one example of a noun for a smell they found and was looking for more.

Interesting point about the other senses though.

Mitch

@terdon don't forget that you read it as 'highly overspecific noun'

but yes, they explicitly said 'noun'

but I am saying that that is a wrong desire to have.

terdon

5:35 PM

And specific :P

Mitch

just because you say something doesn't mean you mean it. or understand it.