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2:44 AM

If you are not supposed to fight battles you cannot win, then why are you alive?

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On the quixotic — and the Quijote Is quixotic positive or negative, you ask. An easy enough question to ask, aye. But to answer? To answer is something else. For it is . . . complicated. That’s because a tale as rich as El ingenioso hidalgo don Quijote de la Mancha cannot be potted into a sing...

It's very positive on a Scrabble board! — Jolenealaska 50 mins ago

Jasper Loy

5:15 AM

This chat is dead.

tchrist

5:28 AM

Oy. I feel like I deserve an upvote just for reading that all the way through, but since that's not how the world works, +1 for you instead. :) — Marthaª 4 mins ago

Heh.

medica

@tchrist - how long did it take you to write that?

tchrist

@medica Several minutes. :)

medica

good answer.

I thought you'd tackle that one when I initially saw it.

tchrist

You have to spend years reading about the damned Quijote to get a degree in Spanish, especially when you’re at a Madrileñan university.

You have to write multiple ten- and twenty-page papers about the thing.

Trust me, what I wrote was infinitessimally small compared with all that.

People do graduate theses on it.

medica

lol! I can see it now. Your answer must feel positively shallow compared to what you had to write.

tchrist

5:36 AM

Yes.

And I still wept in the writing.

medica

aww...

it is moving.

you are still an idealist, I think.

tchrist

ad astra per aspera

It’s my father’s birthday tomorrow. I have to go somewhere and spread his ashes. It puts me in these moods. That he persevered to the most horrible of ends — Parkinson’s without numbing dementia — and that Robin Williams did not, has had me in tears more than once this week. And surely shall again.

That’s what you’re hearing underneath it all.

But I will not judge. It is all a tragedy, every single one of us. That does not mean we have no hope of having made the world a better place for our having briefly flared before the candle is blown forever out.

tchrist

7:48 AM

I hope I don’t get suspended for my flagrantly blasphemous statement about Ceiling Cat’s poopy litterbox.

Freddy

8:46 AM

[LMFAO] (soundcloud.com/omar-adel-57/i-am-sexy-and-i-know-it-lmfao#) best then all other songs by LMFAO

medica

9:50 AM

@tchrist - I am so sorry about your father. I hope you can find comfort in this sad time, and I hope you're not doing this alone (will you have family with you?)
I will be thinking of you in the days to come.

nosmoking

10:11 AM

@tchrist youtube.com/watch?v=9kENJm15zPU#t=190

@medica Hi, I'm Cyril, cc and whatever other stupid pseudo I took

medica

@tchrist - I hope this is not too public a place to offer my condolences. I looked for an email address on your profile (you did have one once, I thought).
Again, I am so sorry. Losing one's parent isn't easy at any age, and under almost any circumstance. May you remember the good in your father's life and yours together as you spread his ashes.
In sudore vultus tui vesceris pane, donec revertaris in terram de qua sumptus es: quia pulvis es et in pulverem reverteris.

Hi! you look like an ebola virus! :-0

@nosmoking But I like it!

@nosmoking - one of my favorite somgs... I love izzy

that would be a good song for h tchrist to take with him. Very thoughtful of you.

nosmoking

tchrist Sr

medica

yes

so sad

nosmoking

Are you still in Italy?

medica

we all do, but, C, we can't help it. Some of it free will, bad choices, some of it is genetic, some early experiences.

no, I'm in Pennsylvania. Sent you an email today.

:)

nosmoking

10:22 AM

@medica my parents also have small OCD, I joke with them pointing at them

yep seen your mail

medica

yes, so many people do, and of course, once you have it in one family, the whole family has it in one degree or another!

nosmoking

contagious

medica

we, too, point boisterous fingers at who is to blame for all our ills! I fear my children blame most because I protest the loudest, which makes them happy.

genetics of nurturing, both no doubt.

Is tom with his family, do you know?

nosmoking

hehe, why that makes them happy, I've not grasped this part of what you said?

@medica probably, he has 2.25 children

medica

I protest so much, they find it funny; it makes them laugh.

nosmoking

10:27 AM

Aug 10 at 1:58, by tchrist

Plus 2.25 children and 3.67 pets.

@medica ok

medica

Hmm, that's an interesting number.

methinks perhaps he was giving a humorous answer.

nosmoking

yes, not sure he has children :))

medica

Is he with relatives right now? do you know?

nosmoking

I need to find a non-smoking girlfriend in 1 year, when I'll be stabilized

@medica no, I don't know, but he will reply you later

medica

yes!

That is a great goal!

Do you have friends that know lots of women?

thank you.

nosmoking

10:31 AM

@medica my former work colleagues, but I didn't contact them, and they knew rather bitchy girls

medica

time to start doing your male and female friends little favors so they will start introducing you to some (nice) girls.

nosmoking

so, I'll find one a day, with okcupid or in life

medica

What makes for a bitchy girl in your opinion?

nosmoking

some girl without a great occupation, thinking about money and sex, without great discussions

medica

(two very good friends married after finding each other on OK cupid.)

nosmoking

10:33 AM

hehe

medica

Are there any young people that do not think about money and sex?

do you want a programmer like yourself?

nosmoking

I knew one, she left now, a Vietnamese, it could have worked, but I wasn't interested by that at that time

medica

:(

school is a good place to meet women.

nosmoking

yep, that's what I think too

medica

You're tall and handsome, you should be friendly, and you'll meet lots.

nosmoking

10:35 AM

I don't want to stay in smoking bars also, so that's harder

medica

I met my husband in residency.

nosmoking

@medica ah right, another possibility

medica

No, no, no smoking bars. Surely there are others?

nosmoking

@medica yep, I hope, I mean restaurant with a smoking terrace, I don't like those

medica

do most young people in France smoke?

no, nor do I very much. The fresh air is not so fresh then.

nosmoking

10:37 AM

@medica a bunch do who.int/tobacco/surveillance/policy/country_profile/en

when they care to admit :)

medica

Wow! those are high numbers!

Maybe you should look for a student from a different country!

nosmoking

wow young girls smoke more than male in Italy who.int/tobacco/surveillance/policy/country_profile/…, a weird phenomenon

@medica totally, I need to mix genes

medica

already thinking of your children, I see!

:)

nosmoking

@medica hehe

medica

How is Jasper? I look for him but seem to miss him all the time.

nosmoking

10:41 AM

he was here lately, he will pop in maybe

medica

Please tell him I asked about him if I miss him again. I hope he's doing well.

nosmoking

ok @JasperLoy ^

medica

are you starting school soon?

nosmoking

@medica maybe yes or no, it's a decision I need to take soon

medica

or are you going to work instead?

pros and cons?

nosmoking

10:43 AM

there's a possible image processing master degree inside Paris, fun but near all dangers

medica

what would you like the most?

nosmoking

I don't know yet

medica

dangers = smoke?

nosmoking

@medica only yes

I'm ok with car pollution

It's a bit hard to breathe in car pollution, but it's ok, pollution must be so hard in Paris that you don't smell smokers

medica

I'm sorry. well, if I could convince you that occasional exposure to second-hand smoke was not a big deal, I would di it, you know.

nosmoking

10:45 AM

yes everyone told me it, and you do it very well, with the right words, I'm tempted to believe it

medica

well, the air there can't be as clean as elsewhere, but in addition to pollution, you smell wonderful patisseries, and cheeses, and other wonderful foods.

nosmoking

yes in Paris indeed

so there's just 1% of that pollution that are cigarettes

medica

and festivals... good food. we went to one that was celebrating wines and pate de fois gras. Yum!

nosmoking

you don't say "pâté" for Foie gras

because Foie gras worth "better" than pâté :)

medica

no? true, it wasn't pate. it was the actual fois gras!

nosmoking

10:49 AM

tranches de foie gras

medica

Very, very rich! (Too rich, after a few bites)

nosmoking

slices of fat liver

medica

oui, ç'est ca!

liver

very delicious.

nosmoking

yep, it's a calory bomb

medica

But the gravage... I feel sorry for the ducks.

nosmoking

10:50 AM

they are so "gavé"

medica

ah, gavage. force fed with tubes.

nosmoking

yea like in animes

medica

but it is so very good. Do you like it?

nosmoking

it's been time since I last eat it, but I liked it of course

medica

then there are the creperies.

nosmoking

10:52 AM

(I've eaten stupidly no fat during 5 years)

medica

w o w !

nosmoking

now I can eat some, one drop of huile d'olive

medica

those were obviously your weight loss years.

nosmoking

@medica the trigger of OCD's

medica

Your mother, does she try to make you eat richer food?

fat is a trigger for you?

nosmoking

10:54 AM

@medica she does, but I mostly eat separately

@medica low fat, exposed my brain to more disorders

medica

ah, I feel for you.

your brain does need some fat, you know.

nosmoking

yes, now I understand it, by experience :) and by doctors like you

medica

well, you obviously have good function still. Time to make it better. More oily fish. More good olive oil. If you like butter, some of that, and eggs.

nosmoking

nah not butter yet :)) eggs yep, tough eggs I do

medica

so, egg crepes cooked in butter is good for you! not too fatty, but good fats.

nosmoking

10:57 AM

I see, in a frying pan, I stop using them by disgust of fat, but now I should start again

medica

good. eggs have lecithin, and other very important fats.

yes.

we used to have many chickens here.

nosmoking

you make your own eggs?

medica

I would have eggs of all colors, even green, more than I knew what to do with.

and duck eggs, too (very good)

nosmoking

wow

ostrich eggs as well, :)) jk

chicken and ducks

medica

but they are all gone now, my chickens, ducks, peacocks, guinneas, quailes, all kinds

nosmoking

11:00 AM

turkey?

medica

only wild ones which would come around to steal the food!

nosmoking

you can't get some again to reproduce etc... ?

that's cheaper to buy eggs I think, and less time costly, but natural food has its charm

medica

I could, and maybe I should. But it's hard to travel if people have to come and take care of your crazy animals.

(and the eggs are so much better tasting!)

nosmoking

@medica oh right, forgot that

good point

medica

and, I like to see them wander and scratch. They are pretty.

nosmoking

11:02 AM

ok I'm gonna eat some rice like often at midday

medica

now? have a good lunch!

yep 13:03

au revoir.

à bientôt

@tchrist: Tempus flendi, et tempus ridendi; tempus plangendi, et tempus saltandi.

Peace be with you.

Jasper Loy

11:31 AM

@nosmoking okcupid.com is a great dating site.

@medica You can email me at jasperloy at outlook dot com.

Eugene

11:55 AM

Good day

Does "differ from" mean, that something is different from something?

skullpatrol

no

skullpatrol

12:22 PM

When you ask what does "differ from" mean, you get that meaning from a specific context.

So, I can ask you does 4 + 2 differ from six?

Does "differ from" mean that 4 + 2 is different from six?

Since 4 + 2 and six name the same number they have the same value.

The simplest or most common name for the number six is 6.

Andrew Leach

12:52 PM

But, "4+2" is a sum, and "6" is an absolute value. So it depends on what you are comparing as to whether something is different.

Generally, to say X differs from Y does mean that X is different to Y.

Gah. The air show has started, and it's noisy and not conducive to concentration. I shall have to go outside and have a look.

skullpatrol

May I beg to differ?

skullpatrol

1:09 PM

Enjoy the air show :-)

Andrew Leach

The Red Arrows are quite impressive, really.

(From a previous year, although they did do that just now as well.)

Freddy

1:59 PM

why my display picture does not change in chat room

Mr. Alien

2:59 PM

@AndrewLeach please help me out with this ...

is this correct? "Did Kaurav's son participated in Mahabharata battle?"

Andrew Leach

3:12 PM

@Mr.Alien No. If there is an inflected verb, then the second is always infinitive:

> Did Kaurav's son participate

And "Mahabharata battle" needs some sort of determiner, a, the, that.

GnomeSlice

Today's Listening | Electronic / Hip Hop (Mixsets day 16)

Andrew Leach

> Did Kaurav's son participate in the Mahabharata battle?

Mr. Alien

aah thanks... did a mistake.. I revised this post and told the user to take care of grammar and spelling errors.. so he started nitpicking...

@AndrewLeach yea, "the" should fit well

thanks again, I'll leave for now...

Robusto

room topic changed to English Language & Usage: Answers half off on tax holiday weekend (no tags)

tchrist

4:19 PM

@Cerberus Isn’t that a bit like saying that work is the curse of the drinking class?

RegDwigнt

5:01 PM

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Q: What's the word for having a very long scrotum?

I've forgotten the word for having a very long scrotum, it's like rapscallion or scallywag but I just can't remember. I've searched but the majority of references are medical conditions and it's not a medical term I'm looking for. I'm hoping someone just knows the answer. Thanks.

single-word-requests

Why it must be holiday weekend indeed.

Freddy

Genghis khan was the first guy who used the the weapons as well as sex to win the wars!! lol This what shown on History TV 18

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Jasper Loy

5:46 PM

This chat is dead.

Freddy

yes, no interesting topics

GnomeSlice

What you wanna talk about?

Jasper Loy

Anything will do.

GnomeSlice

Hmm.

Jasper Loy

@GnomeSlice Do you intend to get married and have kids?

GnomeSlice

5:49 PM

I dunno. Probably. First I have to get a girlfriend.

lol

Freddy

don't think go and get it

:p

Jasper Loy

@GnomeSlice Should be no problem for you, you are hot.

GnomeSlice

Hahahahaha

Jasper Loy

@Freddy Are you from India?

Freddy

yes

Jasper Loy

5:52 PM

Freddy reminds me of Nightmare on Elm Street.

GnomeSlice

pludo.bandcamp.com/album/youniverse-part-1

this is amazing

Freddy

why? which?

GnomeSlice

@Freddy Freddy Krueger is the villain in those films.

Jasper Loy

@Freddy The character in the movie.

GnomeSlice

Jasper Loy

5:53 PM

@GnomeSlice You can see boobs in some of them, lol.

GnomeSlice

that guy ^

@JasperLoy That's pretty standard for horror movies.

I watched Trailer Park Boys: The Big Dirty with my dad recently and didn't realize it was full of tits.

Jasper Loy

Too bad many movies here are over-censored.

Better to watch them online instead.

Freddy

I normally download that type of movies from torrent thats better because no allowed to enter in multimax[for over age movies ] as i am under age

Jasper Loy

Let's type some more stuff to get the picture off the screen, lol.

It seems to be slowing down the chat.

GnomeSlice

exxasens.bandcamp.com/album/satellites

Freddy

6:06 PM

musics is nice topic to discuss

GnomeSlice

I have to do some online certification for working in a place that sells alcohol.

Jasper Loy

@GnomeSlice I really like Shawna, wish I can marry a girl like that, lol.

Freddy

8tracks.com/thobhani-freddy/getting-bored-1

GnomeSlice

A pornstar would be an awful woman to have as a wife

probably

Jasper Loy

It's 2 am here.

16/8 is Debian's birthday.

Freddy

6:13 PM

Debian is nice operating system

Jasper Loy

Yes, but one has to download the non-free firmware during installation separately, lol.

That is why I am glad that Mint will have a new version based on Debian Stable in a few months, with MATE and Cinnamon.

Freddy

@JasperLoy Why you don't use Ubuntu?

14.04 Trusty Tahr is nice

Jasper Loy

@Freddy I don't like Unity shell. Of course, one can change the desktop.

GnomeSlice

@JasperLoy Do you know of Jenni Lee?

Jasper Loy

@GnomeSlice Nope, let me check it out.

GnomeSlice

6:19 PM

@JasperLoy #1 favourite

Jasper Loy

@GnomeSlice Haha, not my type.

But she has the same initials as me, lol.

@Freddy I have used Linux for about 4 years now.

GnomeSlice

@JasperLoy Only with one of her aliases. ;)

Jasper Loy

@GnomeSlice Anyway, we should not talk too much about this, in case we get banned, lol.

GnomeSlice

Hah

I'm kinda busy anyway, I have to do this thing.

It has videos and stuff I need to watch

Jasper Loy

I wish I were still young like you. Past 30 = old, lol.

Freddy

6:23 PM

two years before i have tried Fedora but as i was not comfortable and now from past 2 months using Ubuntu

Jasper Loy

Fedora is pretty troublesome to set up after installation.

However, it does include non-free firmware on its disc, lol.

@Freddy So what do you want to be when you grow up?

Freddy

@JasperLoy I am planning for web designing

Jasper Loy

@Freddy OK. Do most people live in poverty where you are?

Freddy

nope not around in my area. Here most people are reach but very few are literate

thats problem

Jasper Loy

The math books from India are very cheap.

They cost about one tenth of the price in the US.

Hello @nosmoking.

Freddy

6:30 PM

Then also many guys not want to study, lol

nosmoking

hello @Jasper, medica was here and thought about you

Jasper Loy

@nosmoking I told her my email address. It seems that she emailed you?

nosmoking

@JasperLoy yes, she's so nice, she answer slowly but she does

Jasper Loy

@nosmoking Yes, just like me, lol.

nosmoking

@JasperLoy you're nice too, more depressive like me :) but nice too

we can fight that

Jasper Loy

6:33 PM

@nosmoking The knot in your avatar must represent your mental condition. We must untie the knot.

nosmoking

yes, exactly

Jasper Loy

It seems that you are too thin and I am too fat. I should transfer some of my fat to you, lol.

nosmoking

nah, I'm not too think now, I've eaten mor :)

GnomeSlice

I eat like crazy

And I weigh like nothing

nosmoking

I'm normal 1m83 (6") 69kg

Jasper Loy

6:35 PM

I have not exercised the past decade, so I have become fat.

GnomeSlice

I'm 6"2' 130lbs

Freddy

i am younger than u all but much taller (6"8')

Jasper Loy

@Freddy WTF!

nosmoking

@GnomeSlice that's thin

Jasper Loy

Debian is blue, Ubuntu is red, Mint is green.

I wear blue on Mon, red on Wed, green on Fri.

nosmoking

6:40 PM

@GnomeSlice I'm 6"1 150lbs but was 120lbs before

Jasper Loy

I am 1.65 m and 70 kg, lol. I used to be 60 kg.

nosmoking

shorter is normal for an asiatic

Jasper Loy

More than 10 years ago, I used to run every day. But now I have difficulty walking even, lol.

nosmoking

@GnomeSlice how old are you?

GnomeSlice

22

nosmoking

6:43 PM

ok you're still just after growth

Jasper Loy

I will go and have some coffee and come back later.

nosmoking

you'll start gaining weight now :)

6₃ knot

== Description == In knot theory, the 63 knot is one of three prime knots with crossing number six, the others being the stevedore knot and the 62 knot. It is alternating, hyperbolic, and fully amphichiral. It can be form the braid word == Symmetry == Like the figure-eight knot, the 63 knot is fully amphichiral. This means that the 63 knot is amphichiral, meaning that it is indistinguishable from its own mirror image. In addition, it is also invertible, meaning that orienting the curve in either direction yields the same oriented knot. == Invariants == The Alexander polynomial of the 63 knot is...

@Freddy did you try basketball?

@GnomeSlice Do you smoke?

GnomeSlice

Nope.

nosmoking

ok, eat more proteins maybe, like chicken, eggs, and good fat like salmons, olive oil

Jasper Loy

I am drinking some coffee now.

@nosmoking What time do you sleep every day?

nosmoking

7:03 PM

@JasperLoy it varies a lot between 21:00 and 02:00

but I'm tired with that medicament in the blood

before medicament I went sleeping very late, 01:00 to 06:00

Jasper Loy

I sleep about 4 hours at night and 4 hours in the day, two times a day.

nosmoking

@JasperLoy I did that before my medicament

ask if Xeplion is ok for you maybe :)

Jasper Loy

@nosmoking What happens is that I think too much, feel tired and then fall asleep.

nosmoking

@JasperLoy think about Math or anything? like me before medication again

now I can concentrate more deeply, and sleep more deeply too

Jasper Loy

@nosmoking Think about my mental problems, I need to think about them to solve them.

nosmoking

7:12 PM

if they are not rational, you can't really solve them by thinking, or that's a schizo

Jasper Loy

Well, it depends on the definition of rational and thinking, lol.

nosmoking

the medication just change the juice composition in what your brain is, inhibits some neurotransmitters, so a very important action

Jasper Loy

I think you mean medication.

nosmoking

@JasperLoy yes or drug, sorry

@JasperLoy are you good in badminton?

Jasper Loy

@nosmoking Nope, I am not good in any sports.

nosmoking

7:16 PM

@JasperLoy you'd need a sport to balance yourself, it helps greatly your brain

I bet great mathematicians did some sports too

just a little

but I guess you already sweat just by standing under the sun, with that heat

Jasper Loy

I should do more walking.

nosmoking

@JasperLoy yes, with walking sticks, it's grea

Jasper Loy

@nosmoking I usually walk in shopping malls, not on mountains, lol.

nosmoking

@JasperLoy ah indeed, but there are parks in Singapour

Jasper Loy

LOL

Do you have a recent pic of yourself to show me? I think I forgot what you look like.

nosmoking

7:21 PM

@JasperLoy by email

Jasper Loy

@nosmoking OK. I don't have anything to take a pic with, so cannot show you, sorry.

GnomeSlice

Once I get settled into my new job I'm going to look for an Ultimate league to join

Hope I have time for it...

Jasper Loy

@GnomeSlice Is that a game?

GnomeSlice

Yes.

Ultimate (sport)

Ultimate is a limited-contact team field sport played with a disc (frisbee). Points are scored by passing the disc to a teammate in the opposing end zone. Other basic rules are that players must not take steps while holding the disc (maintain a pivot), and interceptions and incomplete passes are turnovers. At peak play there is a higher cooperation within the striving competition. Rain, wind, or occasionally other adversities can make for a testing match, with rapid turnovers, heightening the pressure of play. A prominent feature of the modern game is the "lay out," a horizontal dive to catch or...

nosmoking

@JasperLoy you have a desktop PC?

Jasper Loy

7:23 PM

@nosmoking Yes.

Oh I tried taking a pic with my phone, but because I am using Linux I cannot transfer it to the computer, lol.

GnomeSlice

@JasperLoy post to facebook, download from facebook, delete from facebook

That's how I usually get photos off my phone, lol

Jasper Loy

@GnomeSlice I have no internet on my phone, lol.

@nosmoking You look quite handsome.

nosmoking

@JasperLoy lol, some people say that, but I've no girlfriend

I'll try, in the future

Jasper Loy

Same here.

GnomeSlice

I need to get out more

I pretty much just play video games when I'm not working

nosmoking

7:26 PM

@GnomeSlice reading, that's what you need

Jasper Loy

I don't play any video games at all. They are boring, lol.

GnomeSlice

I used to read a lot

When I was younger

I should start again, but I don't know what to read, lol.

@JasperLoy ;_;

nosmoking

read again then , animes, mangas, picture or text

my dad has many comic strips

GnomeSlice

Not a big anime fan

nosmoking

I'm gonna read a comic-strip, Buck Danny, bye

Buck Danny

Buck Danny is a Franco-Belgian comics series about a military flying ace and his two sidekicks serving (depending on the plots) in the United States Navy or the United States Air Force. The series is noted for its realism both in the drawings and the descriptions of air force procedures as part of the storyline. In particular the aircraft depicted are extremely accurate. Mixing historical references with fiction, Buck Danny is one of the most important 'classic' Franco-Belgian comic strips. Starting in 1947, the first albums were set against the backdrop of World War II, but from 1954 onwards,...

tchrist

8:10 PM

I’ve just been stricken with a donnish fit of quijotería. I reject all claims that this is actually ¡Qué jodería! in disguise — the principal distinction depending on just which side of the madness curtain you stand behind.

I wish my funny people were here.

Andrew Leach

8:21 PM

Sometimes, no matter how unaccustomed and even difficult, it is a time for weeping. There is no shame in that.

tchrist

I am now leaving to drive (not climb: my knee is really hosed) up to the highest paved road in North America to release my father’s ashes from the 14,265-foot summit of Mt Evans, where the winds are strong and the sun is stronger, and the intense blueness that cutting out nearly three miles of atmosphere provides defeats the natural yellowing of my agèd lenses to let me see the colors of my childhood again. Good bye.

Andrew Leach

We will be thinking of you. Life is changed when someone you are close to is no more seen, but there are still good times to come.

skullpatrol

8:53 PM

@tchrist may this bring you some perspective my friend :(

Jasper Loy

9:15 PM

I got suspended in the Math room for saying "I had a great shit".

Andrew Leach

You just have to hope that that comment isn't flagged here as well then. Although that's a mention, not a use. The quotes might save you.

Jasper Loy

They can flag all they want. Nothing better to do.