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user116848
5:00 PM
@Cerberus It is from a movie "Blue Ruin". Here is the line: popmatters.com/review/…
 
user116848
Ctrl+F this line------> "I thought you should be somewhere safe when you found out, with somebody"
 
The present would make sense if it were some sort of policy you need to follow: I thought you should do X when you do Y.
 
@Arrowfar Yes, found sounds most "normal".
Find would probably sounds a little bit informal. Or I don't know.
 
But I think Y being find out sounds a bit unlikely (removing the do).
@Cerberus Does threes sometimes glitch for you?
 
@Alraxite By the way, about that page on Destructoid, why doesn't he offer Flattr buttons, or some other way of conveniently making micro-donations?
 
user116848
5:04 PM
Right.
 
@Alraxite In the browser? Yes, it used to. But I haven't played it in a while. I switched to the mobile game a while ago.
 
@Cerberus I do not know. But if I had to guess, donations wouldn't have been enough for him to keep his team and his website up. It might, but it's not reliable. And I don't know what the statistics say about websites trying to switch to a donations-only method of revenue.
 
Is basis the plural of base? In the context of extending an argument that works in base 3 to any other base (basis?).
 
base-->bases
basis-->bases
 
English is annoying that way.
axe-->axes
 
5:12 PM
@Cerberus Yes, it has done for me for quite a while. But this time, it did it later in the game when I had a good score!
 
axis-->axes
 
the pronunciation is different, right?
 
@Alraxite And how much does he make from me if I see ads but never click on any? Surely it can't be much. It will be like 1 cent a month if I view 100 ads total.
Annoying! I only remember it happening earlier in the game.
 
@Cerberus It's not about you. You're in the minority. The problem is most won't donate.
And I do not know the numbers.
 
So what? Let those who want to "pay" by viewing ads do so. Let those who want to pay by clicking the Flattr button do so. Let those who want to buy merchandise...etc.
 
5:17 PM
@terdon the pronunciation is different, right?
 
Websites should not complain to me if they do not offer Flattr buttons. They should not be trying to force me to "pay" them by taking part in the perverse, abject system that is advertising.
 
@skullpatrol Yeah, can't have it all.
 
okay @tchrist it looks like you're right, I do have a Windows problem. Windows 7 doesn't support Unicode 5.2 properly, so installing aegyptus doesn't make the text work magically.
 
@Cerberus If most consumers were so thoughtful. You're assuming that most people with ad blockers will donate. Many people have ad blockers and are ignorant about the problems that such extensions cause the website.
I don't like advertising myself. But then the donations system doesn't work. What choice do the website admins have?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Huh, so why doesn't it? How can my XP support it, then?
 
5:21 PM
XP=Best.
 
@Alraxite Well, I am not those people; that is not about me.
 
I know.
As I said, you're in the minority.
 
People are free to display advertisements. But I will absolutely not accept any ethical claim.
If you don't want to broadcast your information on the Internet, then don't.
 
@Cerberus I don't know. But I have a Windows 8 VM and it doesn't work either. Step 1: install aegyptus. Step 2: load chat transcript. Expected result: hieroglyphs. Actual result: tofu.
 
If you want to ask me politely to help you, that's fine.
But offer a different way from ads!
There are ways.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Hmm but I think it worked in my W7 VM.
Let me boot it...
 
5:24 PM
@Cerberus I have tried 4 different fonts and 3 different versions of aegyptus and 3 different browsers and now 2 different OSes.
 
Not enough unicorns.
 
𒂖 𒂗 𒂘 𒂙 𒂚 𒂛 𒂜
𓈪 𓈫 𓈬 𓈭
 
Unacodes? Exploding glyphs!
 
Hmm I cannot see them in my W7.
But let me install Aegyptus there...
 
5:28 PM
What is the easiest way to install a font?
 
In XP, just open the Windows/Fonts folder and drag the file in there.
I think you need to move it through Explorer for it to work.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Then they’re doing something wrong. But we knew that already.
 
It needs to be a valid .ttf or somesuch file.
 
@Cerberus Ah, actually in that case, I do not see any reason for you to not have a blocker enabled. If you're going to donate them by other means, then sure (for e.g. I think Destructoid does offer you to buy stuff or something like that).
The problem is that the majority won't donate if they only relied on such methods (this is especially true for small sites). So the website admins don't have any choice but to enable ads to keep themselves running. You can't blame them.
 
@JohanLarsson You command your minion that it be done.
 
5:33 PM
I don't have a pool-boi
 
@JohanLarsson What? Who let all of this riff raff into the room?
 
sry, I'll see myself out.
 
@JohanLarsson Ah, in Windows 7, just double-click the .ttf file, and there will be a button "install".
 
@Alraxite Only if all money is good money, and all means of acquiring money are good means — in which case it’s fine to whore yourself out and your little sister too, and steal from the retirement home all in the same night. Spam, spam, spam, spam.
 
@Cerberus I was thinking some package manager kind of thing, like windows update.
 
5:35 PM
@Alraxite Well, as I said, I am not saying they are not allowed to place ads. I'm just saying I will not accept any ethical claim. As to buying stuff, they need to let me pay very little, not €20 at once.
@JohanLarsson No: you need to find the font files you need by yourself.
If only Windows includes the ones from that page...
 
@Cerberus Yes, my point exactly. If you're ad blocking but still donate, you've every right to do so. But you can't blame the websites for hosting the ads because using only the donation method is not sustainable.
 
Why do you keep repeating that?
I wasn't blaming them.
 
I'm not.
Well, you just made that clear now.
The earlier conversation hinted otherwise
 
It started when you suggested I should unblock those sites.
With which I did not agree.
 
What.
When did I say that?!
 
5:40 PM
So if you wish to watch a broadcast television program, then it is your duty to watch their spamvertising. I see.
 
But apparently I misunderstood your intention.
 
Over my dead body.
 
Suggested, not said.
 
There must have been a proviso if I made such a suggestion.
 
You will not fast forward. You will not mute. You will not leave the room. You will not avert your eyes. You will not collect $200.
 
5:42 PM
Clockwork orange.
 
And we will keep your eyes prised open with little toothpicks until you bleed blood into our coffer. And you will thank us for that privilege.
 
@Alraxite Perhaps it was because of the article on Destructoid. I was mainly arguing against that.
@tchrist *with Kinects
The ad will pause if it sees you avert your eyes. This is actually possible with a Kinect.
It will also freeze the film if it detects a minor in the room.
This, too, is actually possible. Neither is yet actively implemented, though.
 
First, spam != ads on websites.
Second, I know all money is not good money. I'm only talking about the little websites that are most surely not using adverts to gain 'bad' money.
 
That is the position of those who think we should be nailed to our chairs, eyes forced open, and force fed their spamcrap. I would vote for a referendum that permitted vigilante justice on such evil nonhumans.
 
@Alraxite I see no difference between either kind of unwanted context.
 
5:44 PM
Yes, ads on websites are spam.
 
@tchrist A brave new world it shall be.
 
The proper reaction to such things is contempt and disgust.
 
Indeed.
 
While I agree that one of the results of ads is free content on the internet, that is not the only way.
 
@tchrist Then again, if there are people who are willing to watch those ads, and companies willing to pay websites for them, and normal people can block the ads, what's the harm?
 
5:45 PM
In either case, the few ads which I almost never notice that ADP passes through, I'm content with.
 
I wouldn't mind an opt-in ad for example. Or even the SE model where they go away after you reach X rep.
 
@terdon Exactly. And they all seem to ignore that.
@Alraxite ADP?
 
Adblock Plus.
 
Ah.
 
Not a good abbreviation.
Should be ABP.
 
5:47 PM
1 hour ago, by terdon
All ads annoy. Period.
 
@terdon SE has ads?
 
@tchrist Yup.
 
Who knew!
 
Visit any site while not logged in, or one where you don't have an account.
 
Or one you don't have Adblock on.
 
5:53 PM
Day 425: Mr. Shiny still hasn't figured out how to install his font.
 
𒂖 𒂗 𒂘 𒂙 𒂚 𒂛 𒂜
 
cuneform
 
Boxes.
 
Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business (1985) is a book by educator Neil Postman. The book's origins lay in a talk Postman gave to the Frankfurt Book Fair in 1984. He was participating in a panel on George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four and the contemporary world. In the introduction to his book, Postman said that the contemporary world was better reflected by Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, whose public was oppressed by their addiction to amusement, than by Orwell's work, where they were oppressed by state control. It has been translated into eight l...
Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television (1978) is a book by Jerry Mander, who argues that many of the problems with television are inherent in the medium and technology itself, and thus cannot be reformed. Mander spent 15 years in the advertising business, including five as president and partner of Freeman, Mander & Gossage, San Francisco, a nationally-known advertising agency. Author's summary In an interview with Nancho.net's W. David Kubiak, Mander summarizes his book: Well, one of the points of the book is that you really can't summarize complex information. And that tele...
 
But with numbers and letters inside.
 
5:54 PM
!!define aloof
 
@JohanLarsson aloof At or from a distance, but within view, or at a small distance; apart; away.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So I have installed the fonts Akkadian (cuneiform) and Aegyptus (hieroglyphs) in my Win7 VM, and now they work.
 
!!define ahoof
 
@terdon It means I ain't got time to learn your $5 words
 
:)
 
5:55 PM
!!define $5 words
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So I wonder why it does not work in your Firefox, even in VMs.
 
@Alraxite My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.
 
I was hoping it'd reply with the other one
 
!!define ahoof (I'll pay you $10)
 
@terdon My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.
 
5:57 PM
Ahoof is like afoot, but with hooves.
N'est-ce pas?
 
Ahoof is like a roof behooved.
 
> Your results indicate an above average score on emotional intelligence.
 
Ooo I love those tests.
 
I found the alternatives poor making some questions hard to answer
 
6:07 PM
That's often the case...
 
6:17 PM
so how emphatic are you?
 
yawns
Gah. Meetings.
 
I heard the rain in Spain stays mainly in the plane, so she might want to re-think that, @Matt.
 
hmmm
I guess her options are limited, then
 
I am so funneh!
 
6:23 PM
:D
 
Zoe
How to teach subject verb agreement rules within 2 1/2 hours to primary school children....
 
@MattЭллен where do you get the words from? You might want to correct *desintation
 
d'oh!
thanks :D
I can't edit the stack exchange message without removing the formatting, but I've fixed the original
 
Are tumblr posts one-boxed?
I mean, if a user posts a link to them.
 
no. but this chat room is subscribed to my tumblr rss
 
6:37 PM
@MattЭллен Crap, and I just had to try it!
 
and you didn't even fix the typo!
 
Damn, sorry.
 
no worries :D
 
@MattЭллен Wha?
 
Now quit playing with it.
 
6:38 PM
@terdon *desination
 
@KitFox Yes'm
 
You're going to go blind, for heaven's sake.
 
@KitFox I thought that was a myth!
@MattЭллен Yeah, fixed one but not the other. Idiot.
 
@Cerberus So I managed to get it working in FF on Windows 8 and 7 in VMs by installing the full Google Noto font set, but it still does not work at all on my local box.
 
6:42 PM
@terdon Oh. I thought that was why my prescription was so strong.
 
:)
 
HI
Hi
everyone
Can I ask a question?
 
No.
 
Can two questions?
 
Just kidding.
What's your question.
 
6:46 PM
I need to edit this and it seems a bit off to me:
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Very, very strange.
Perhaps you have a weird virus?
 
> "Are you going to come for football"
I don't know if I should just an article before football or change the sentence altogether.
 
Not unless you are talking about the actual object and not the game.
 
@terdon It is the cattle equivalent of afoot. As in, "The game is afoot."
 
@Noah Are you going to come over to watch football?
 
user116848
6:48 PM
@Noah I think your sentence is right: "Are you going to come for football"
 
Are you coming over for the game?
 
c c
!!define altogether
 
@KitFox Umm. So do you think the sentence is wrong?
 
@cc altogether Without exception; wholly; completely.
 
No need for going to.
 
6:48 PM
@Noah No.
 
Just wordy.
 
user116848
Yeah come over sounds great!
 
c c
Are you ballfooting?
 
@tchrist Umm, thanks do you think we need an article if we change game to football
 
Come over is more usual for an invitation, but come is perfectly respectable.
 
6:50 PM
@Noah Sure, use some.
I don’t know what you would articulate it with, nor why.
 
Are you coming over for football? For some football? To watch some football?
To watch football?
 
@Noah would you say "are you coming over for a hockey"?
 
Are you coming for the match?
 
@MattЭллен No
 
football in that sense is the same as hockey
 
6:51 PM
If you are specifying an instance, you use an article.
Otherwise, it's the general sense of watching a sport.
Or participating.
 
@KitFox But we are talking about a particular football match?
 
@Noah Yes, but you are referring to the general concept of watching football together.
 
Umm.
 
Are you coming to watch the match? Are you coming to watch football?
 
@MattЭллен Except that kind of football (i.e., soccer) is slower, and the action principally involves diving and grimacing.
 
user116848
6:53 PM
@Robusto I don't follow the room's title about 'No comment'.
 
When you do, you'll achieve enlightenment.
 
@KitFox You mean both are the same in a more general sense?
 
c c
@Arrowfar it needs the /* */ to understand it
 
@Noah Those are two different ways of asking the same thing.
 
@KitFox Thanks
 
user116848
6:54 PM
@cc I see. Let mr try....../*xyz*/
 
@Arrowfar The special characters are comment indicators in code.
 
@KitFox I love you:)
 
eeps
 
@Noah You are welcome.
@Noah Thank you.
 
c c
@Arrowfar I mean the joke only works with this comment symbols
 
user116848
6:55 PM
Yeah :)
 
c c
it's a pun
 
I don't think that's a pun.
 
user116848
Oh, very difficult to understand 'pun'.
 
user116848
I thought it was referring to 'swear words'
 
Hahaha. I guess I can see why you would think so.
 
c c
6:56 PM
no it's just tricky and funny word manipulations
 
user116848
:D
 
They often involve swearing as the joke.
 
user116848
mm hmm.
 
Did you hear about the guy whose whole left side was cut off? He's all right now.
Pun of the day
 
!!rimshot
 
6:58 PM
 
@Robusto I know, I was just playing 'cause Johan had defined aloof.
 
did all of you know the meaning of aloof?
 

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