English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room - 2014-06-20 (page 2 of 7)

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2:00 AM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So you are saying the buses are not actually installing Wifi? How do you know?

> † wain, v. Obs.

Forms: 2–3 Orm. waȝȝnenn, 4 vayne, 4–6 wayne, 6 waine, 7 wein.

Etymology: f. wain sb.1

1. trans. To transport in a wain or carriage.

C. 1200 Ormin Pref. 37 ― Goddspell forr þatt illke þing Iss Currus Salomoniss, For þatt itt··Waȝȝneþþ soþ Crist fra land to land.
C. 1200 Ormin 5909 ― Þær iss þe Laferrd Crist himm sellf, & tiderr iss he waȝȝnedd Uppo þatt hallȝhe waȝȝn.
1531–2 Durham Househ. Bk. (Surtees) 62 ― Pro navigacione ultra aquam cum le waynnyng 1 but malvaseti, 6 d.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus The article claims they are installing Wi-Fi to enable buses to better communicate with a central system. That is impossible.

@Cerberus How could they? How does that make sense?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It's not the entire connection! It's just part of the system.

I think we have a system where vehicles of some sort use Wifi for location awareness. I also know automated cars use Wifi to know where other cars are.

But how the hell does it find a wifi base station to get on?

2:01 AM

Near-by cars.

Huh?

Maybe it is a GPS satellite tracking pingamobile.

@tchrist It doesn't.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus What does that mean? Why would that be relevant? Why would they install Wi-Fi on a bus if they weren't planning to use it to provide local devices with access?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 And what does it connect to? I just cannot understand it.

It communicates what data it has gathered using Wifi to a base station through 2G.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Because it can be used for precise location tracking when GPS doesn't work? I forgot how it works exactly, but there is this technology.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:03 AM

@Cerberus So you are suggesting that they are using a Wi-Fi client to ping nearby APs to determine location, like what your smartphone does? I would be amazed if that were true, however, that would still not be what is meant by "adding Wi-Fi to buses"

I think it was something like that.

I'd have to look it up.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

When people add "Wi-Fi" to something, with the suggestion that customers could, theoretically, get internet access, what is being discussed is a Wi-Fi Access Point.

An AP provides access to nearby clients

But that AP needs to pass the traffic onto the larger network using some other tech, usually a wired internet connection, or cellular (3G, etc)

To me it sounded more like they were just mentioning passenger Internet access in case readers might misunderstand the purpose and nature of the system.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus The article clearly states that someone at the TTC asked about the feasibility of using the Wi-Fi system to give customers internet access

Why mention the Wi-Fi at all? it hardly seems relevant.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yes, so the bus can transmit it through its normal 2G connection. Or even the bus stops could do so.

I don't know the context of the article, nor what the TTC is.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:06 AM

@Cerberus the TTC is the toronto transit commision

The article needs no further context. It's wrongness is apparent on its face. But I guess it's only apparent to people who know what Wi-Fi means.

I can't find the article I read, nor even the information.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So I agree that the article should properly explain how the Wifi facilitates location tracking. It's probably through a connection with a 2G/3G back-end system, but I don't know.

The report is equally scant.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:22 AM

@Cerberus It just seems so odd to me that they bring up Wi-Fi at all. Clearly someone at the TTC thought that there was a possibility of leveraging the vehicle location+communication system to provide internet to riders. But why they should think that is beyond me.

What the Wi-Fi is even for isn't even explained.

It's like if they said "The TTC's new bus location system uses electricity, but don't get your chargers out yet, you can't plug your phones in to charge them while riding"

"Someone at the TTC wanted to know if they could use the electricity in that system to recharge rider's phones. TTC officials say it's too early to tell, they have to roll out the system first"

Or worse, if they heard that the location uses radio technology to transmit information and they thought riders could use that same tech to listen to music. Because radio.

Haha.

I don't think it's that.

There are devices that install all sorts of communications at once on vehicles, apparently.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:43 AM

@Cerberus So this would be a device that does Computer-aided-dispatch/vehicle-locating and also, incidentally, provides internet access for customers?

> Meantime, so many people have Wi-Fi enabled devices [Wi-Fi access for Viva bus riders is] no longer considered to be worth pursuing, said [acting general manager] Carroll.

That sentence makes no sense either.

Was Carroll misquoted? misspeaking? just wrong?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think so.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yeah I didn't get that one at all.

Sounded like some kind of error.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

If that's the case, they could at least explain it properly in the article.

Because it sounds like the buses are going to have wi-fi access points, because it's required by the new system, or the buses are going to use wi-fi for something.

user116848

Hi guys

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

hi

user116848

"I checked out xyz site and I find that even when people make mistakes there someone says that it is correct". In this sentence when reading we have to parse it right? So my punctuations here are okay?

2:53 AM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yes.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I don't know about that.

user116848

@Cerberus You see my qs Cerberus?

You need more commas.

And what does "it" refer to?

user116848

where?

user116848

it-----sentence

I don't see the word sentence in your quotation.

user116848

2:55 AM

Yeah what I meant is general mistakes.

user116848

So commas where?

The "it" is wrong.

Thorn is so weird. It is the only Latin letter with both an ascender and a descender. Apparently either can be stroked, too. Plus it is the only letter whose uppercase is smaller than its lowercase.

If it refers to "mistakes", then it should be plural, they.

user116848

@Cerberus And 'punctuation' ? I need to know about it.

2:58 AM

> I checked out google.com, and I find that, even when people make mistakes there, someone says that they are correct.

user116848

okay much obliged

@Cerberus Of course.

@tchrist Does it count as a Latin letter? How do you define "size"?

@tchrist nods

‭ Þ 00DE LATIN CAPITAL LETTER THORN
‭ þ 00FE LATIN SMALL LETTER THORN

There is no descender on the uc the way there is on the lc version.

Therefore, it is smaller.

Just talking with former and soon-to-be former co-workers at $job[-1] — very serious bloodbath today.

Doesn't this greatly depend on the font?

Oh, dear.

3:02 AM

Two more in my group. Some groups as high as 20%.

That we know of. It is very hard to find good data.

So is it final for you?

The test manager had not only his director but even his exec director let go.

Oh, it was final on June 1st.

Nonetheless, I got automail yesterday saying that [insert company] was looking for people with my skills. What a crock!

Haha wow.

And apparently there is to be another round of layoffs in August or September, but today was a blood bath for sure.

And there is nothing in the news.

I can see why you are glad not to be working there in the long term.

3:04 AM

-1

Q: What's a 'Basic Bitch' and a 'Bad Bitch'?

I would like to know the difference between a 'basic bitch' and a 'bad bitch'. terms referring to certain types of young women. I believe these are recently created idioms. I suspect these terms are better known to university students and I expect the correct definitions will come from college st...

meaning pejorative-language

I know they by law have to notify the state and fed.

If someone would like to close a question, feel free.

@medica Not Constructive. Not A Real Question. Bikeshedding. Opinion. Trash.

close, close, close, delete

Pure nonsense.

But you know there are people who would see it open.

3:06 AM

That's why I'd like to shut it down asap

not me.

I have done what I could. Others must step up to the plate and batten it down into the ground.

are there not enough people here to close this?

I did add the new tag, though. which was my pleasure.

There are very few here now.

shame.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I voted.

3:08 AM

thanks. Sorry to bring trash here.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

It's what we're here for.

user116848

@medica You mean close this question? About 'bitch'

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

among other things.

many, many other things.

I would like it to disappear.
Thanks.

@Arrowfar yes. It's not just about bitches, it's a slam against all women.

user116848

@medica Yeah that's why it got negative votes :D

3:10 AM

"what's the difference between a disgusting prick and a sickening prick?"

That's not a real question.

user116848

Same I guess

I would shut it down as soon as I saw it.

Just like this.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@medica it might be, if the terms were actually used in non-obvious ways.

user116848

You mean 'bitch' question?

@Arrowfar yes. It's not a question which is on topic on any serious language site.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:12 AM

Like, "what's the difference between a linguist and a cunning linguist?": there's more to that than the surface definitions

indeed there is.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

But I don't think "basic bitch" is a word-phrase that has any special meaning

@Arrowfar It doesn't work like that.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 exactly. It has no currency in language.

user116848

@medica I meant if it is very offensive

@Arrowfar If I asked you, which are you, a disgusting prick or a sickening prick? Would you be offended?

3:14 AM

I don't feel qualified to judge that question. It is about slang. It may or may not be valid; some youngster might know.

@medica How about cunt?

It is now (also) used in a friendly manner.

user116848

@medica No why would I be?

user116848

:)

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 How would we know?

@Cerberus I don't use the word cunt, and I wouldn't call anyone a cunt, but if the question were:

@medica Well, many people do, and sometimes it's friendly. It's idomatic.

3:16 AM

"what's the difference between a basic cunt and a real cunt? I would not like the question. They have no currency.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

hm. knowyourmeme.com/memes/basic-bitch

user116848

@Cerberus Cunt isn't used in a friendly manner? Is it seriously?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

> “Basic Bitch” is a pejorative term used to describe an individual who displays cliche, conformist or otherwise predictable character traits. The antithesis of a basic bitch is referred to as a “bad bitch.”

This is the type of question which is akin to a drive-by bowel evacuation on our site.

user116848

lol

3:17 AM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Maybe. I never heard of it.

@Arrowfar It can be, mainly in Australia, I believe.

@medica How would you know?

Slang and curse words are on topic here.

@Cerberus I have kids; they have friends. People say fuck around me, and other things; my life isn't lived under a golden basket.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus What about made-up slang and curse words?

according to "know your meme", it has a peak of 100 google searches in one day

doesn't sound like a very popular phrase

Must we document every meme?

but I've never heard of a distinction between two kinds of bitches.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Oh, there's all kinds of bitches

but what, specifically, is a basic one?

the meme site is unclear

3:21 AM

okaaaay... I just know: is someone a bitch or not?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@medica heh I was just joking with you

anyway, I just brought it here to se if we could (or perhaps should) close it.

@medica But you may not be familiar with the right university parlance.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'm not offended.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

It stands to reason, though, that if you were classifying bitches into categories, you'd have more than one or two buckets

3:22 AM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 No. But maybe we need to give it some time.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 true enough. but is it on topic?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@medica I think it would be, if it were a well-known-enough meme.

That is the question. No more no less.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Sure. in a few years, it might be on topic.

If a serious answer shows up, we keep it open; if not, we close it as "too local" or what have you.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:23 AM

@Cerberus sadly we don't have "too local"

What if someone shows up with quotations and all?

Then use what have you.

from the urban dictionary?

user116848

It reminds me of a song 'Crazy bitches' Anyone listened it??

user116848

And 'Work bitch' by Britney Spears

user116848

lol

3:24 AM

is that a valid, "canonical" reference (as some are so fond of asking)?

@medica Would you keep open a question like what's the difference between "he's a cunt" and "he's a funny cunt"?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus All the definitions I've found for it so far are conflicting.

@medica Probably not.

@Cerberus no, i'd probably vote to close that.

Why?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:25 AM

@Cerberus What is the purpose of such a question? Why isn't that just GR?

@medica It is a valid question that is fairly easy to answer and that could be interesting to visitors.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I think many people would not know the answer.

Then, by all means, do not voteto close it.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So perhaps it is nothing, and perhaps the OP should be asked to come up with more context and sources?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus well then, I must not know the answer, please explain.

@medica Why is it not a valid question?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well, I already explained it a few pages ago, remember?

3:27 AM

@Cerberus as i've already said, it has no currency.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Yes. It would be on-topic if it were an established phrase. A one-off use by some vlogger does not a set-phrase make.

@Cerberus no

I don't remember

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 exactly.

@medica The phenomenon it illustrates has enough currency.

sure, "The phenomenon it illustrates has enough currency."

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Of course. But I would probably want to give the OP a chance to make his case.

3:29 AM

"It has lots of currence as a phenomenon."

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@medica So I'm closing it as primarly-opinion based, because a random pairing of words can have an infinite number of definitions, given enough people making up new definitions for that pair. That doesn't make any of those on-topic.

"Please, lets all discuss it."

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Cunt can be used in a negative way, but also in a positive way, especially in Australia, and especially with a positive word stuck in front of it.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Fair enough. But almost any offensive word can be used that way.

Is any particular question about "positive word + offensive word" on topic? Or isn't it just obvious?

then a tag edit for Australian English would be appropriate.

3:31 AM

@medica I don't understand your argument. To be honest, I get the feeling the main reason you want to close it is because you consider it obscene, not because it lacks linguistic or historical validity or interest.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Cunt is special.

@Cerberus But now I've driven Tom out of the room.

@Cerberus If something about a cunt seems funny, maybe it is best examined at Gynecology Stack Exchange.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus My argument is that it lacks historical validity and interest.

user116848

@Cerberus By enough currency you mean valid here??

There are even Facebook pages about how cunt can be used in a positive way in Australia, I just found out.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:31 AM

@Cerberus really?

@Cerberus Cerb, you can believe what you want to believe. You certainly will do so no matter what I say.

@Arrowfar I mean it occurs frequently.

@TheodoreBroda What is it like?

@medica OK you mock me, then say you don't want to discuss the topic. Very well.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Not so much to me as to other people...

My point is that you can't always know how big something is.

@Cerberus How can I discuss it with someone who has made up there mind already about my motive?

@Cerberus That's not a discussion, that's an argument.

That's not something i'm particularly interested in tonight.

It was the only possible conclusion after you refused to continue the discussion, but instead started typing mocking comments.

But never mind.

I felt it should receive scrutiny, and it has. That was my intent.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:35 AM

So I'm having second thoughts about voting to close. Maybe the answer is that this is primarily opinion-based.

Not to argue the finer points of cunt or bitch or prick.

I'm not up for that.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I voted to close this as Primarily Opinion-Based because "basic bitch" is not an established idiom, not even in the slang world. There is an entry on knowyourmeme.com which attempts to document this and gives multiple conflicting definitions, as well as a paucity of examples of usage. Eventually, it may be a set phrase with a defined meaning. Right now it's just a pejorative word that means whatever you want it to mean. — Mr. Shiny and New 安宇 1 min ago

Whatever, it's fine.

really.

> When used with a positive qualifier (good, funny, clever, etc.) in Britain, New Zealand and Australia, it can convey a positive sense of the object or person referred to.[6]

This is not my site.

It's ours.

3:36 AM

> Australian stand-up comedian, Rodney Rude frequently refers to his audiences as "cunts" and makes frequent use of the word in his acts, which got him arrested in Queensland and Western Australia for breaching obscenity laws of those states in the mid-1980s. Australian comedic singer Kevin Bloody Wilson makes extensive use of the word, most notably in the songs Caring Understanding Nineties Type and You Can't Say "Cunt" in Canada.[76]

And drive by shitting is not only tolerated, it is welcome. That is the argument.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That was the possibility I suggested. Maybe it's wrong, but I would rather have some young people look at it. Is it really a frequent expression?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus my research just now says "no"

Drive by shitting?

Does anyone know if Yoichi Oichi answered the questions yet?

3:37 AM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Right, so that is a kind of reason to close it. As you know, I was mostly trying to counter the "obsceneity → close!" reflex.

yea, like a drive by bowel evacuation.

you know...

No need to bring up unpleasant metaphors. Especially not with added details.

anyway, I'm going to see if Yoichi San answered the questions. It's been

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Well, that's a useful reflex. Or rather, red flag.

seriously???

You object to shitting and bowel evacustion?

3:39 AM

@medica I don't think we do. Do you mean shitting out of a moving vehicle!?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@TheodoreBroda like a drive-by shooting. Only with feces.

but not to different cunts and bitches?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 thank you.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'd rather take the bullets, if given a choice.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@TheodoreBroda uh. not me.

ok, well, before I offend anyone's sensibilities, I'm off, as I said, to see if Yoichi posted, and if so, what,

TTFN.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:40 AM

I've changed diapers..... too soon, if you take my meaning. I lived to tell the tale.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 A red flag, perhaps. But it shouldn't be a reflex. Questions about obscenity are linguistically and historically valid.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus can be valid. But are often just crap.

@medica All in the interest of science. And I find sex and body parts less gross than evacuation.

In other words, you had it coming.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 shrugs

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Just for fun, I should flag all the messages here with bad words.

groans

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:42 AM

flags cunt

flags shit

flags bitches

flags flags

@Cerberus Are you groaning because you are evacuating your bowels?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

crap

I think flags can cunt nor shit.

@TheodoreBroda Yuck!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus you don't know the right flags

morning

3:43 AM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I am underprivileged.

@JohanLarsson Morning!

The sun is fucking shining!

:)

@JohanLarsson Good morning. Join us for a ludicrously obscene discussion before breakfast.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus lol, it's bed time here

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So was my sentence incomprehensible to you?

What with the nor?

@Cerberus you're a wild animal

3:45 AM

Yeah?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus I'm inoculated now

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Same here. I forget how international EL&U is.

I'm not happy to see the sun when I'm still up!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus come on. that must happen to you all the time.

It's gotta be practically the only time you DO see the sun

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Did they squirt some impure nors into your arm to trigger an immune response?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yes. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:46 AM

@Cerberus yeah, something like that.

Eww.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

dammit, my database connection is dead.

You'd think having the IT dept back up the dev database would be a good thing.

Oh, no!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Except the db never crashes, and can be easily rebuilt, so the backup is useless, and when it runs nothing can work.

So the odd time I'm feeling like working at midnight, poof, no db

Oh, that's odd.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:54 AM

I guess that's my cue to leave

Good night!

I should go too.

@Cerberus It's mildly ironic that you keep finding my words objectionable here, but perhaps that's intentional... Regardless, my offer is still on the table if you still care - naturally, you're free to rebut anything I wrote on meta on meta as well.

@Shog9 I merely accosted you because I happened to be in the election chat room.

I did post a comment on Meta, but it was ignored.

Someone needed to tell you this. It has been done. There is nothing more to say. I hope you will remember how it comes across next time.

4:09 AM

@Cerberus You must admit, "I flagged your comment" isn't much of an argument. If I'm wrong, tell me how I'm wrong.

It's 6.10 AM.

I don't want to discuss this now.

It's bed time.

@Cerberus It came across exactly as I intended it to. Given that it's late/early, I'll just say that I'm not particularly happy that anything I wrote there needed to be said at all - but given that it did, I wish I'd said it a long time ago. Much unnecessary suffering has occurred because of folks unwilling to speak up.

You attacked Jez personally and ridiculed him. It was unnecessary and rude.

@Cerberus No, I didn't.

But I already told you. Now you know. Someone needed to tell you. There is nothing more to say.

4:13 AM

Unless his self is intimately entwined with his activity in this chatroom, there was nothing personal about what I wrote. If he took it that way, I would apologize - but I would be surprised if he did.

I can criticize the way you hoe your row without speaking to your worth as a person, and I would hope that I can criticize one's activity in a chatroom as well.

I missed the cause of these accusations. Did it involve a response to Jez's frequent unsolicited dating complaints?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@TheodoreBroda It started from there

@Shog9 "Your contributions are worthless." — "Just leave this site."

@Cerberus "you're chopping down the beans." -- "Stop hoeing"

But I am repeating myself.

Please delete this discussion, I don't want to clog up the room with rubbish.

I have nothing more to say.

4:17 AM

Wow. I must have missed a passionate disagreement.

@TheodoreBroda Nope.

@TheodoreBroda Nah, it was not very passionate.

Nor very long.

Nor very interesting, even.

@Cerberus Sorry to be keeping you up. I forget how late (or, at this point, how early) it is in Europe. It's only midnight here.

Haha, it is my own fault.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@TheodoreBroda The doggy can choose his own bedtime :)

He's notorious for this.

And for forgetting stuff.

...said Mr "I'm going to bed" Shiny...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:20 AM

Those are his two secret weapons. Insomnia and amnesia.

In short: Greek and Latin.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It's always night in Hades. He needs someone to remind him about the time.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus I stayed for the fireworks. WORST FIREWORKS EVER.

3

Aww.

What were they for?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus The great @Shog9 and @Cerberus showdown of '14

4:21 AM

Wait, are you talking about this discussion?

Whew.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

yeah.

boooooooorrrrrring

It was merely a small reprimand, no fight.

We apologize.

The marketing department must have gone all out on the posters?

@Cerberus There's still time for vitriolic personal attacks. Make it count.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

We hired urchins to paste them on every telephone pole in town

I don't like personal attacks!

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Ah, child labour!

And archaic attributes!

Haul out the telephone poles!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:23 AM

@Cerberus It's okay, they're illegal aliens. So it doesn't count.

Ah, too bad.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus I should say "utility poles", our phone lines are underground almost everywhere, but not power lines.

Still archaic enough!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

hey, the DB is back. maybe bedtime is deferred!

Oh noes!

Unwise...

4:24 AM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I hired sea urchins to post them on every coral reef. Don't exclude the mer-people.

They shouldn't defer bed time for you at the last moment, poor Mr Shiny.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@TheodoreBroda yes! That's the kind of go-getter attitude that'll make you go far at ShinyAndNew Chat-room-combat Promotions!

oh, DB still down.

okay I'm outta here, for realz

Lucky you, you get to go to bed!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus don't you?

Err yes.

But, I mean, luckier than when you thought you had been deferred.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:25 AM

then everybody is lucky

almost wrote lucy

most people aren't lucy

But we could all be Lucy.

It would be a funny coincidence, if our real names were all Lucy.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Well, you know mine's not.

It's "Mr"

You could have been lying.

See?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I could have been. my anonymous persona is layered over another anonymous persona

it's anonymous personas all the way down

@Cerberus If I gave my real name out, Interpol would immediately start tracing my IP address to determine my hideout.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:27 AM

@TheodoreBroda Sure, Lucy Broda

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You are a TOR persona. And underneath is...Wintermute?

@TheodoreBroda I thought they had already arrested you?

@Cerberus Yeah, they nabbed me buying a ticket to the World Cup.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus There is no underneath. The personas just loop around in a circle.

Ah, you fool. You should have known anyone interested in the World Cup was a suspect.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Anyways. bye.

4:29 AM

Bye!

...annnnd another innocuous chat line popped up in a flag that I had to invalidate.

I have TV programs to catch up on, so I will leave you to pace around in circles as all dogs do before going to bed. See you tomorrow, @Cerberus!

I think one reason why people don't read the context is that they know their flag will not count unless they press the button immediately.

@TheodoreBroda Have fun! Those TV programmes don't corrupt your soul by themselves!

I'm off too, bye!

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