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4:00 PM
I just had that word left over. Past expiry date, too. So you expect me to keep it to myself?
 
You. Are. Adorable.
 
Oh and of course I wanted to show off my brilliant vocabulary.
 
With the soft-top down and the speakers on full
 
To the eleven.
 
Rag-top, here in the U.S.
 
4:04 PM
Reg-top here.
 
Hey Reg, did you manage to get into Refugees?
 
Not the last time I tried.
 
@RegDwighт If there is a Reg-top, there must be a Reg-bottom.
 
I've been using said bottom all my life.
 
*sad bottom
Sad because you sit on it.
 
4:10 PM
@Robusto The funny one is the "screen". If you said you had a screen we'd be wondering why you didn't use glass.
 
You mean windscreen vs. windshield?
 
@Robusto Yes. In the UK you can buy "screen cleaner". Anybody here in the US would think that was either for mesh bug screens or for your computer monitor.
 
ah, so you guys use a computer shield?
 
@MattЭллен Speek Engrish.
 
peeks in grish
 
4:13 PM
not Pekingrish! Engrish!
There's a restaurant near me called "Peking Man restaurant"
 
I always imagine that the owner is hiding somewhere, watching you
 
@MattЭллен We don't drive our computers. They're not debugged for heavy commuting.
 
Who would win in a fight between a Peking and a Witchking?
 
4:16 PM
@RegDwighт Pekka
 
@Robusto my computer has several drivers. not that it's better off that way
 
Your porridge also has several cooks.
 
@MattЭллен it probably has bugs too. Does your screen keep them out?
 
@MattЭллен The driver of your car probably needs a firmware update, that's all.
 
@Robusto Drivers don't usually get firmware updates
 
4:18 PM
Yeah, only limpware updates.
 
@Robusto you and your high pallutin talk. I ain't got no car
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That's why I suggested it. It's probably well past time they did.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I wish. it lets them in through the keyboard.
 
@MattЭллен No car? Why, that's positively un-American.
I bet you don't have a gun, either.
 
gun are for killers
just like cars
and mashed potato
 
4:20 PM
It's far easier to kill someone with a car and get away with it.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 BTW, our company just advised me to buy four LEGO sets and build one of them. In my working hours.
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@RegDwighт I am so jealous.
 
And the kicker is, it is one of the approximately three LEGO sets that I don't own.
 
No, it's a form of psychological torture. They advised you to build ONE of them. The other three will simply sit there, goading you to build them but you will not have permission.
 
4:21 PM
 
@RegDwighт do you work for LEGO?
 
@Robusto no, the other three will be prizes for our booth at some trade show.
 
@RegDwighт wow, I don't even know that set
 
OIC you work for the French Foreign Legion
 
Came out this year. I have pretty much all parts except for the blades.
Which were introduced in this set.
 
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4:23 PM
@RegDwighт Wow, he looks so different.
 
Actually I do have two of the rear blades via BrickLink.
 
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@MattЭллен What did the OED folks say?
 
But the main rotor blades are still frigging expensive.
 
@RegDwighт Blackhawk Down?
 
I'll be waiting for more sets to feature them first.
 
4:23 PM
@JasonBourne dunno yet, they've still not got back to me :(
 
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@MattЭллен Are they lazy bums?
 
@JasonBourne can't say for sure, but possibly
 
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@MattЭллен How do you like my username? I think it is awesome!
 
@JasonBourne it's very Matt Damon-y
 
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4:26 PM
@MattЭллен We are both Matts now.
 
@RegDwighт so why does your workplace want 4 of these, and one assembled?
 
3 mins ago, by RegDwighт
@Robusto no, the other three will be prizes for our booth at some trade show.
 
@RegDwighт how did I miss that
what happens to the fourth? do you get to keep it?
 
Helicopters is the closest they could come to the type of software we are analyzing.
I tried to educate them on the abundance of other suitable sets at first, but quickly gave up on the plan as I recalled that this was a set I didn't own and don't plan on buying.
 
4:27 PM
I really think your trade-show booth won't be complete without a mindstorms robot analyzing the helicoptor and transmitting data to a PC.
I am starting to get infected by my son's love of trains.
I am worried that I might buy a lego train
then I will need lego track
and more trains
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I suppose it's for the exposition. Might ultimately go away as a prize as well, or reused on future occasions, or just fly around my office.
 
or rescue people lost out at sea?
 
I think this will be the first time ever that I get to actually use LEGO stickers.
 
@RegDwighт lego stickers suck
I hate them
 
Tell me about it.
 
4:30 PM
I am a bit irrational about it though
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I have a station and the four pieces of track that came with it. That's it.
 
on one hand, I'd rather have printed pieces. On the other hand, I often don't want to "ruin" a re-usable piece by putting a sticker on it which makes it less reusable. But if it has been printed in the first place, that would have been okay.
 
Though I also have the Toy Story III Express, and the Harry Potter Express, so theoretically I could build some trains.
 
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@RegDwighт I like The Polar Express. I forgot to watch it last Christmas.
 
The new TGV looks great, but way too expensive and you'd really need two to have it make any sense.
 
4:31 PM
@RegDwighт it bugs me that there are several different track gauges in use in current sets. So, eg, the little roller-coaster in the batman kit is a different gauge than the trains, so you can't re-use the parts.
 
@JasonBourne You're not troubled by the Uncanny Valley that train crosses?
 
@Robusto crosses? falls into - though admittedly you stop noticing about 2/3s of the way through the movie.
 
My bad. I'm just the set-up man for your jokes.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 the actual railway sets use the same standard. The other thing is for stuff like Dwarf Mines and Batman etc. Or Alien motherships.
 
Why are there never any alien father ships? Aliens gotta deal with a lotta deadbeat dads, apparently.
 
4:33 PM
 
@RegDwighт yeah. Except the old trains which are different from new trains, etc. Not that that matters to me.
@RegDwighт haha, that's hilarious! I never noticed it was train tracks!
 
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Sometimes, there are downvotes on almost all the answers to a question. I wonder if it is JA.
 
user19161
Sure, one answer may be the most appropriate, but the others are fine too and don't deserve a downvote.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 that's another reason for me not to get into it. The motors, clutches, control panels etc. get redone from scratch every decade or so.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I probably wouldn't have myself if not for routinely checking out the parts list on BrickLink for all new sets.
 
4:37 PM
That's 185 Euro.
 
yeah it's $240 CDN
pretty damn expensive
no idea why it's so expensive in canada
 
Amazon.it and .es used to have it for like 129 Euro, and I didn't want it even at that price.
Wait, must have been way less.
Amazon.de. still has it for 129.99.
And that's only a 24% discount.
I know I passed on a 45% one.
 
but considering my son is currently getting wooden train toys for christmas and birthdays, and some people give him things like "Flynn the Fire Engine" which is $27 for one frickin' car, I think that money would be way better spent on lego
I wonder if amazon.de would ship lego to canada
 
Yeah that I never understand. Spending $25 on one piece of plastic. That breaks or gets thrown away just a year later.
But in fact that's very much the thing I don't like about the train sets: the abundance of huge-ass parts.
And I'm not even talking tracks. I really mean the cars.
 
@RegDwighт some kits are worse than others in that regard. And what I really want is a starter kit with a motor, and then I can add things piecemeal later.
wow it looks like amazon.de WILL ship lego to me.
if only I could read german
 
4:42 PM
As long as you can read the shipping cost and your local customs laws.
I told you before that getting anything shipped from the US easily costs me a hundred bucks.
 
yeah I don't know what the import fees would be
 
Amazon.it has the same set 10 Eur cheaper still.
http://www.amazon.it/exec/obidos/ASIN/B003A2JCR2/ref=nosim/dvdtdecom-21
Stupid inlining redirects the link somehow.
 
Anyone ever done one of those in LEGO?
 
Italy is where I got the Tower Bridge from. For Euro 160 instead of 229.
Still waiting for anything remotely resembling that discount elsewhere.
 
Right, I forgot.
 
4:48 PM
@Robusto yes, done and posted here in this room.
 
Yeah, yeah. Beat ya to it.
 
@Robusto yeah, that.
Commute!
 
Commute in LEGO.
 
@RegDwighт so if I order the train from amazon.de, they claim they'll ship it to me in canada for 130 EUR total. That works out to about $170 CAD. The train retails for $240 CAD, PLUS TAX, so $271 total. So if it costs $100 in duties and taxes, I break even.
 
5:05 PM
kermoot
 
Hola.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 If you can get it cheaper in the US, I'll ship it to you.
 
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Q: Punctuating a double parenthetical

DougWhich of these punctuation examples is more correct? On December 7, 1941, ("a date which will live in infamy") Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. On December 7, 1941 ("a date which will live in infamy"), Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. On December 7, 1941, ("a date which will live in infamy"), Japan bombe...

This must be a dupe.
I have seen it before, and now I see it again.
Ah, here:
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Q: Is it acceptable to nest parentheses?

Brad CupitIs it acceptable to nest parentheses (for example, if I (meaning myself) write like this)?

Hmm, maybe not. People so often don't understand the questions they are asking ...
 
5:28 PM
@Robusto It seems scythe is unrelated to the Scythians.
Who'd have thunk?
Dutch zeis.
 
@Cerberus But how about the Scytherans? They're Scythian Lutherans, I think.
 
I am unfamiliar with that ilk.
Consider also that no Scythians had been sighted for 1300 years by the time Luther pinned his tracts on people's doors.
 
So if linguistics is settled science, why are there so many different interpretations of what an illocutionary act is?
 
@Robusto We can't even agree on "proper".
 
@Robusto I think most actors here are straight.
 
5:31 PM
@MετάEd Hahaha.
 
@Robusto Exactly.
 
It's kind of like the string theory of linguistics.
 
Not exactly.
Speech-act theory has proven its worth, but various applications and classifications are possible.
@tchrist I think the single-word definition of tense can be useful in some situations. In fact I have no problem with it in principle, as long as they're not trying to foist it upon us. But there is hardly consensus among linguists at any rate.
 
@Cerberus No, exactly. To 18 decimal places. There is perfect, one-to-one correspondence between the two.
They may actually be the same thing. Prove that they are not!
 
Your yearning for perfection is laudable.
 
5:36 PM
We only yearn for things we can't have.
 
Well...
QED.
 
Queen Elizabeth Died?
Or is it the 500th Queen Elizabeth? QEII is Queen Elizabeth II, so QED must be Queen Elizabeth D (the 500th).
Eventually we may get to QEM if we wait long enough and can't think of any other names for English queens.
 
I'm sure we couldn't.
 
That brings up a programming question: was there ever a zeroth Queen Elizabeth? Answer: No, of course not. Roman numerals don't allow for zero.
 
They don't need to.
 
5:42 PM
Was there a zero in Greek? Have we discussed this before?
 
There wasn't.
Or the Romans would have taken it.
They probably had some way of working around it if necessary.
 
@Cerberus They probably thought that 0 had no value, so what good was it?
@Cerberus But how did they express decimals? Values of sines, cosines, tangents, etc? Were they all fractional representations?
How did that magnificent bastard Pythagoras do it?
I think you've hit the nail on the bed. +1 — Robusto 2 mins ago
This answer didn't get enough respect.
 
@Robusto Yeah exactly.
@Robusto Yes, I believe they used complex fractional systems.
They added up fractions and/or took fractions with large divisors.
As to sines, I'm not sure whether they had those.
 
Them Greeks ... was there anything they couldn't do? Apart from creating a stable democracy, I mean.
 
Well, I think they had democracy for longer than we have.
So is ours stable?
 
5:53 PM
The Pythagorean trigonometric identity is a trigonometric identity expressing the Pythagorean theorem in terms of trigonometric functions. Along with the sum-of-angles formulae, it is one of the basic relations between the sine and cosine functions, from which all others may be derived. Statement of the identity Mathematically, the Pythagorean identity states: :\sin^2 \theta + \cos^2 \theta = 1.\! (Note that means . This relation between sine and cosine is sometimes called the fundamental Pythagorean trigonometric identity. If the length of the hypotenuse of a right triangle is ...
 
Ah, nice.
 
@Cerberus Who can say? There is some question whether we have democracy at all.
 
Indeed.
At least they had direct democracy.
Not saying it was good.
 
@Cerberus If you weren't a woman, say, or a slave.
 
Of course.
Or an immigrant.
 
5:54 PM
Or not a landowner.
 
I'm not so sure about that...it probably varied between cities.
Then again, we exclude children and non-citizens too.
And we have only included women for about a century.
And we excluded the poor until about the same time.
A bit earlier.
 
What are you talking about? Yours is a constitutional monarchy, no?
 
And we never allowed slaves to vote while we still had them.
@Robusto Yes, but I believe this is a pan-Western phenomenon?
 
Mebbe.
 
I'm sure you guys didn't allow women to vote either.
And I bet not the poor either.
 
5:58 PM
Not until 1920. The 19th Amendment to the Constitution.
 
Right.
 
We did away with poll taxes as well.
 
There you go, the poor.
@Robusto How do you remember these numbers by the way? No Dutchman would remember a single number of any law in existence.
We just learn these things as "an amendment".
 
Poll taxes weren't abolished until 1964, when the 24th Amendment was passed. So it happened because of the Civil Rights Movement.
 
That late?
 
5:59 PM
@Cerberus There are very few constitutional amendments and most of them are watershed events.
 
So how did those work exactly?
 
@Cerberus They all have meanings. Numbers are important.
The Twenty-fourth Amendment (Amendment XXIV) prohibits both Congress and the states from conditioning the right to vote in federal elections on payment of a poll tax or other types of tax. The amendment was proposed by Congress to the states on August 27, 1962, and was ratified by the states on January 23, 1964. Poll taxes appeared in southern states after Reconstruction as a measure to prevent African Americans from voting, and had been held to be constitutional by the Supreme Court of the United States in the 1937 decision Breedlove v. Suttles. At the time of this amendment's passage,...
 

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