English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

3:00 PM

in the US -no-offices have openable windows, do they don't need screens. but -all- homes have screen windows as a layer beyond the regular glass windows. (modulo overgeneralization)

KitFox

I don't follow.

We have openable windows with screens in them.

Most offices don't?

Mitch

you're suppose to ignore things that don't fit my statement.

KitFox

OK. But I don't understand your statement.

Mitch

I am always right modulo when I'm not.

KitFox

Should I just ignore the whole thing?

Mitch

3:02 PM

probably...

KitFox

OK.

Mitch

In my (limited) experience, office buildings in the US don't have screens.

but yours do?

KitFox

Yes, and the only other office I can think of does, but it is not something I would note unless I was opening a window at an office.

So that's just anecdotal and obviously biased sampling.

Hmm. I wonder what percentage of offices have window that can open?

Mitch

3:15 PM

THe big office buildings that I've been in have windows that are all unopenable, the expectation is that the air is totally controlled (and an open window would mess that up)

Gigili

@Cerberus No?

What is it?

Kind of food?

KitFox

I don't hate you.

pouts

28 mins ago, by KitFox

Why is everyone insisting on making me angry today? Have I been irradiated by gamma rays or something?

Mahnax

Hi everyone.

aedia λ

We were never allowed to open the office windows.

Gigili

@KitFox Oh, I'm not trying to make you angry.

in a state of shock

Hi, Mahnax.

aedia λ

3:28 PM

Even though it would have been nice when we worked after 6 and they decided to start shutting down the building air circulation at 6.

Anyhow, I'm sorry you've had to go home just not to freeze, @Kit!

Mahnax

@Gigili Hello!

KitFox

@aediaλ I got an email that the building manager called facilities and insisted that they turn the heat back on, so it is warming up there now.

aedia λ

It's pretty chilly here too, so I'm sure we're going to procrastinate on installing any of the A/C units until it gets back up to roasting and my family remembers summer's coming.

@KitFox Yay?

KitFox

I just hope I wasn't too cranky with my boss.

aedia λ

I'm sure they'll understand that frozen people don't have energy for tact.

KitFox

3:32 PM

He's very nice.

But I am very angry today.

I am angry at everything.

If it were two weeks from now, I would say it is PMS.

But it is today, so I don't get it.

aedia λ

I have a head cold and am in a bit of a grump too. Want to have a stomping party?

KitFox

Yes!

stomp stomp stomp

aedia λ

stomps on everything

KitFox

stomps pretty flowers

Mahnax

May I stomp too?

KitFox

3:34 PM

stomps on stupid faces

@Mahnax Of course.

aedia λ

stomps on coffee that's getting cold and splashes it everywhere

Mahnax

Thank you.

KitFox

It's a party.

Mahnax

stomps on French music

KitFox

stomps on not taking a nap right now

Mahnax

3:34 PM

stomps on crappy poetry

KitFox

stomps on feeling bad

Mahnax

stomps on English (read:art) class

aedia λ

stomp stomp stomp on stuffy noses

KitFox

stomp stomp stomp

Mahnax

stomp twice on allergies for good measure

KitFox

3:34 PM

STOMP STOMP STOMP

Mahnax

STOMP

KitFox

STOMP STOMP STOMP

pop

Mitch

ow, my foot.

user19161

@gig Who do you hate?

KitFox

Damn it.

aedia λ

3:35 PM

@Mitch Whoops!

KitFox

My angry bubble popped.

user19161

So many stomps. You are all nuts. QED.

KitFox

sad panda

cries

Mahnax

stomps on QED

aedia λ

proffers tissues

KitFox

3:37 PM

stomps on jQuery maxDate returning the wrong thing

user19161

Hmm, Daniel just asked a question.

user19161

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Q: Does the adjective "swell" have anything to do with the noun/verb "swell"?

Dictionary.com: swell 1. to grow in bulk, as by the absorption of moisture or the processes of growth. The other verb meanings and the noun meanings all tend toward the same underlying concept of this first definition. But as an adjective, the meaning of the word becomes completely diffe...

KitFox

@aediaλ fankyou blows nose

user19161

I bet Barrie will come to the rescue with an OED entry.

user19161

@KitFox That sounds like feckyou!

KitFox

3:38 PM

Commander Toad and the Dis-Asteroid I've just had to explain to my son the difference between the meanings of "swell."

Mitch

@ClarkKent etymonline is not enough?

Mahnax

The OED is not very helpful in this case.

user19161

@Mitch Well, OED might have more. But I don't know.

Mahnax

It pretty much reiterates what Etymonline says.

Mitch

@KitFox that's sounds vaguely Captain Underpants'ish

I can't believe he'd use the word 'swell' except ironically.

user19161

3:39 PM

The ODE does not say much either.

KitFox

They are old books, and it was supposed to be a play on words.

"Beans swell." "Yes, they are very nice."

aedia λ

giggles childishly

user19161

Swell makes me think of some naughty things.

KitFox

They are sort of Captain Underpants-ish, but more staid.

Mahnax

@ClarkKent scolds

Robusto

3:41 PM

@KitFox Hey, wait. I'm Captain Underpants. Who's trying to steal my thunder?

KitFox

@Robusto Jane Yolen predates Dav Pilkey.

Robusto

@KitFox How do you predate somebody? Is that like a phone call to determine whether you want to date them?

KitFox

The Pit Dragon trilogy was one of my favorites when I was a schoolgirl. I should read them again and see if I still like them.

user19161

@Robusto First, the phone rings. Then the door bell rings.

KitFox

I hate dates.

user19161

3:45 PM

Speaking of dates, here's a question.

user19161

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Q: save this day?

Can we use the phrase "Save this day" instead of "Save the date" ? The intention is to emphasize an event happening on a special date..for example a soccer match gonna happen on next Friday and I want to say "Save this day!" . Is it correct ?

phrases american-english british-english

KitFox

Gah.

stomps on question

stomps on jQuery

user19161

After that, the church bell rings. After that there is suffering.

user19161

At the rate everyone is stomping, everyone will have a broken foot by the morrow.

Mitch

@KitFox that has an empty intersection, CU and staid.

CU modulo the fart jokes is 'the shortest book evar'.

Mahnax

3:50 PM

-1

Q: Using simple past and present perfect

I am learning grammar in the book "Essential grammar in Use". I have some exercise. Please see my answer and explain which time need to use in the seventh, ninth and tenth sentence. My solution I played tennis yesterday afternoon. What time did you go to bed last night? Have you ever met your...

present-perfect-tense simple-past

Send it away S.V.P.

user19161

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Q: Is 'this this' correct?

The ability to echo words and still make a meaningful statement has always bugged me. Take this example sentence: "Thank you for bringing this issue to my attention. We will take care of this this afternoon." Is this sentence grammatically correct? Also, is there a technical term for the echoed...

grammaticality part-of-speech grammatical-structure

user19161

Of course it is correct. Why shouldn't it be?

user19161

@Mahnax See my starred message.

Mahnax

@ClarkKent I already have.

user19161

@Mahnax Thank you for your support.

Mahnax

3:53 PM

@ClarkKent What support?

I did not star it.

user19161

@Mahnax For seeing my starred message.

Gigili

@ClarkKent Whom.

Mahnax

@ClarkKent Well, OK.

user19161

@Gigili Yes, have a cookie.

Gigili

Haha, I needed to do something like that.

Keep your cookie for yourself. I'd rather have a candy.

Mahnax

3:58 PM

Gotta run, bye!

Cerberus

4:13 PM

@Gigi: She is an Iranian-Israelian singer who is supposedly popular in both countries. I thought it was nice.

Meysam رها در بند

4:39 PM

@Cerberus I have just seen a program about her on BBC, and I don't think she is much known in Iran. Very few people might know her.

@ClarkKent Who do you date?

user19161

@Meysamرهادربند Nobody. QED.

Cerberus

@Meysamرهادربند Hmm I see. I guess they mean relatively well known, then. Not a main pop star.

Mitch

probably bigger in Israel than Iran.

KitFox

5:18 PM

yawns

Matt Эллен

yawns

it's catching!

KitFox

What's it catching?

Hi @Matt.

Matt Эллен

Yawning :D

Hi @Kit :)

KitFox

I have a quandry, @Matt.

Matt Эллен

What is your quandry?

KitFox

5:31 PM

I've just had a nice soak.

Matt Эллен

jolly good!

KitFox

But I haven't any lunch.

Matt Эллен

I see. A tough spot.

KitFox

If I go get lunch, I am sure to get all cold and damp and miserable again.

Matt Эллен

no one wants that

KitFox

5:32 PM

I could stay and nap, but then, no lunch.

Matt Эллен

nothing you can make lunch from?

KitFox

nothing I want to make lunch from

Matt Эллен

hmmm

KitFox

shit now I've hit myself in the face with the corner of my laptop

that hurts ow ow ow

Matt Эллен

lol

sorry

KitFox

5:34 PM

grr stupid laptop

Matt Эллен

offers icepack

KitFox

sok, thx.

Gigili

@Cerberus Never heard of such a thing.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox I only laugh because I can imagine me doing that. The other week I ripped a huge hole in my shorts getting off my bicycle

KitFox

if I go out in the rain, I could have a nice sandwich

Matt Эллен

5:36 PM

very tempting to be sure

KitFox

if I stayed in bed, I could have a nice nap

Matt Эллен

for me there is no quandary - I can't sleep if I'm hungry

KitFox

there is also the matter of the list

Matt Эллен

the list?

Gigili

list?

KitFox

5:39 PM

I must compose a list, several lists actually, for the planning meeting that I have called for next week

no lists = more time listening to people talk about stupid stuff

like how great they are

Matt Эллен

ah

KitFox

and how nice it would be if I could just put a button next to the thing then the user could click it and it would send an email to the leader with a link to the page they wanted to share and speaking of sharing how about turning the whole thing into a social site

Matt Эллен

ye gods

KitFox

with a forum where teachers could share their ideas about intervening with students

and instant messaging

Matt Эллен

sounds awfully productive

KitFox

5:41 PM

and custom themes

and stickers

everybody loves stickers

user19161

@MattЭллен I hope your knob was intact.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox and tshirts, caps and plushies?

Gigili

I hate stickers.

KitFox

@MattЭллен oh fuck yeah!

Matt Эллен

@ClarkKent err, thanks!

user19161

5:42 PM

@KitFox Sleep first and then get the sandwich later.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox you guys should totally start a kickstarter

get someone else to pay!

KitFox

then I say "But back to the implementation plan for the current release...do you have one yet?"

Matt Эллен

lol

KitFox

"because you wanted to launch tomorrow"

Matt Эллен

d'oh

KitFox

5:43 PM

OK not really, but kinda.

maybe gf will bring me sammich if i offer monies and kisses

Matt Эллен

Yeah, they need to focus on the present pressing problem

@KitFox always worth a try :D

Gigili

gf? Girlfriend?

Matt Эллен

nVidia GeForce graphics card

user19161

@MattЭллен Subtle change of topic.

Matt Эллен

@ClarkKent what? gf is short for GeForce

user19161

5:46 PM

@MattЭллен What about bf? What is it short for?

KitFox

I texted "big monies for sammidge and friendly niceness to my home"

Matt Эллен

@ClarkKent See, google knows

@ClarkKent Bat Fink

KitFox

giggles overclocking gf

Matt Эллен

:D

KitFox

hahaha

user19161

5:47 PM

It is suddenly raining outside.

user19161

It seldom rains at 2 am.

Gigili

@ClarkKent Brute-force

user19161

@Gigili Have a candy.

KitFox

@ClarkKent Oh, sorry about that. My bad.

Matt Эллен

@ClarkKent I don't know, he was just born that way. Don't make fun!

KitFox

5:48 PM

rofl

user19161

@KitFox What has the rain got to do with you? Are you the rain god?

aedia λ

giggles uncontrollably

user19161

@MattЭллен These jokes are really taxing.

Gigili

giggles independently

Hey, I really hate you.

user19161

I announce that I will stick to Chrome for now.

user19161

5:51 PM

Chrome and Firefox are equally good. Why I choose Chrome is because it will soon have the built-in flash plugin.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@ClarkKent Then you'll love Windows 8 and IE 10, where Flash will be shipped and updated via Microsoft Update

Matt Эллен

@ClarkKent you must tithe your mind to the church of humour

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Ha, I knew the talk between Microsoft and Adobe was about that! W8 even has a built-in PDF viewer. They're all in cahoots!

Gigili

Whute your mind?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@ClarkKent Erm, Chrome has a built-in pdf viewer too.

user19161

5:53 PM

@MattЭллен 10 per cent is too much. When the pastor needs money he will quote the verse about tithing.

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I wonder if it is of the Adobe variety.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

There are some beautiful red cardinals hopping around in my back yard right now.

Makes this w-rk stuff seem silly

user19161

@Gigili What is whute?

user19161

So now that I am using Chrome and Evince, I may forget about the word "Adobe".

Gigili

@ClarkKent Whute = what the hell is tithe.

Matt Эллен

5:55 PM

tithe is a verb meaning to pay a tithe

user19161

@Gigili Ah, you are supposed to give ten per cent of your earnings to the church. It is in the bible.

user19161

In general, to tithe is to give money to the church.

user19161

You may look up the dictionary. I am merely speaking offhand.

user19161

You may also look up the bible.

Gigili

@MattЭллен OAD doesn't list it as a verb.

Matt Эллен

5:57 PM

"sorry I can't come out, I'm a little tithed up"

user19161

@Gigili There are only OALD and OAAD, no OAD AFAIK.

user19161

Oops, there is also NOAD.

Matt Эллен

@Gigili here you go

Gigili

@MattЭллен Uh, that. Thank you.

KitFox

@MattЭллен Just make sure you have a safeword! And a sitter if you are to be left alone.

Gigili

5:58 PM

@ClarkKent Oxford Advanced Dictionary.

I invented. Go enjoy it.

user19161

@Gigili Now you are just trying to cover up your folly.

user19161

If you visit OUP you will see that they have so many dictionaries with different names you will get confused.

Gigili

I can flag that.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@ClarkKent whoa, we're covering up follies here, now? This could take a while

Gigili

But I'll ignore it for now.

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