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Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:00 PM

So the multitasking API actually does look like a missing feature that they should have just included from the beginning.

> Developers will have access to seven multitasking services, which will allow tasks to be performed in the background while preserving performance and battery life. So you’ll be able to make a Voice over IP call while playing a game or checking email, find a restaurant on Urbanspoon while listening to Pandora, and more.

Essentially this lets third party apps run background tasks

there's no way that the OS didn't already have this capability for first-party apps.

@Robusto Better than a Mac Apple.

@tchrist: I see you are a victim of the serpentine blade as well. My condolences.

@Robusto Yes, as in ancient Italy.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oh OK.

@Cerberus You've got it backwards again, a condition common to your species. What is that species, btw? Canis Diabolicus?

Canis Cerberus.

I.e. mottled dog.

3:05 PM

@Cerberus How about in Greek?

Kynos Kerberos?

Kuôn or cyon.

Kunos/cynos would be the genitive.

Hence cynic.

@Cerberus I know. I got to kynos working backwards from that.

Ah OK.

Well done.

The nominative singular of a word of the 3rd declension can rarely be reconstructed from the stem/genitive.

Same applies to La'in.

Pater (nom. sg.) => patr- (stem).

I'm considering making a feature request for a mocification that would automatically suspend for 30 minutes people who use "LOL" in comments.

Or just silently remove the comment.

3:13 PM

30 minutes? They won't even notice.

@RegDwighт Well, until they get the "face slap" feature working, it's a start.

3:30 PM

@Robusto I say ban until the face slap feature is working.

Then use the face slap feature.

Then repeat using the face slap feature until it's no longer working.

Rinse, repeat.

What is the face slap feature?

Wait a little and we'll show you. :P

Mar 9 at 20:28, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

WHOA. Hold the presses. At last, I have invented a tool to punch people in the face over the Internet.

It's technically similar to the face punch feature. Except you get slapped, not punched.

Advanced, is it javascript?

Asocial Javascript. And XML.

You need to buy some computer hardware for it to work.

3:36 PM

well worth it imo

Yeah everyone must do their bit.

The iSlapYou™ 2000.

Available at Apple.com for € 899.

yesterday, by Cerberus

By the way, can someone stop that obscene animation where people float away on a giant penis?

huh?^^

Watch the giant penis. 3...2...1...

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You haven't seen it yet?

Ah there he went.

Saw it?

3:37 PM

Yeah, but not the penis

@RegDwighт This is beautiful out of context btw.

The giant penis can be seen from space. By corollary, if you are not in space, you cannot see the giant penis. Please move to space. I'll wait.

Mod posted that quote in the C# room

What? Where?

(no context)

3:39 PM

Ah nice.

Lies! I'm not seeing it.

C#

General discussions about the c# language, Squirrels | gist.gi...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus Wait, what? you're talking about an actual thing people can see? Not something fucked up in your own head? Oh wait, I just saw it too.

I fail finding it

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

When someone leaves the room

They float away on a giant penis.

in C# on Stack Overflow Chat, 23 hours ago, by Anna Lear

in English Language & Usage on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 21 hours ago, by Cerberus

By the way, can someone stop that obscene animation where people float away on a giant penis?

found it

3:42 PM

Oh that's Anna.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

It's been a few days since the star board was filled with penises.

This only goes to prove how much time TPTB spend looking for penises in chat.

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Recursion

@Cerb I was arguing with you in the other room.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You really should pay more attention to things besides your Android.

3:46 PM

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Q: What is best dictionary software which helps me to depend less on SE?

Possible Duplicate: What are your favorite English language tools? While I am surfing through this ELL SE, I have found that many of questions related to meanings, Phrases, etymology and right usage of words. Some times user mis guided and confused by the dictionaries they are using. I...

@JohanLarsson Oh, dear...

Hahahaha.

@KitFox Yay!

Now the ELL people are invading ELU to ask dumb, off-topic questions so they won't offend the pineapples on ELL.

It was a kind of strange quote to bring, there had been some heated argument with a suspension

She used that as oil on the water, does that translate like that to English btw?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:48 PM

@Cerberus I haven't paid attention to my android in hours. I've been too busy trying to make my site's email system work properly in the fucked-up morass of email clients.

@JohanLarsson What? Really?

Can I see the giant penis again?

I missed it last time.

Was that giant enough for you?

That looked like a medium.

I've had gianter, but I'll tell you, that's totally overrated.

The mechanics are difficult to work out.

3:54 PM

@ЯegDwight in C# your R is inside-out

No, that's here.

@KitFox I was not paying 100% attention to the chat but that was what it looked like to me

Huh.

@RegDwighт not from Sweden, noticed when trying to ping in C#

I don't know the expression "oil on the water" though.

3:56 PM

@JohanLarsson that is irrelevant to my point.

@KitFox Oil calms the waters, prevents waves from breaking. Supposedly. Something to do with surface tension.

The Я is correct in that room. It's been flipped only for this room here.

ah

@Robusto So like "calm the waters" I guess.

See this reference.

3:57 PM

guess my prjudice was showing, expected R to look like R :)

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Sure, sure, of you say so...

Wait, were you programming your site on your phone?

> In earlier times, the pouring of modest quantities of oil into the sea was done deliberately in order to forestall rough seas. This phrase alludes to the calming effect of that oil has on wave action as it spreads over the surface of the sea. Very small quantities of oil can cover a surprisingly large area as it spreads into a layer just a few molecules in thickness.

> The surface tension of the oil layer has an effect similar to that of a thin skin and is highly effective at calming 'troubled' water.

That's really interesting.

TIL

Like petrol over troubled water.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus No. I'm writing Java, HTML, and CSS code to send email.

Or, rather, tweaking existing code

Frankly, I hate email.

It's a pain in the ass from beginning to end.

4:00 PM

this vegetable insult question on the supercollider amuses me

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

WAY too many email clients to test

not as bad as the usual garbage that gets supercollidered

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JSBձոգչ It should be OT. It's a list question.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 HTML email is the new fax machine. It should die.

@JSBձոգչ that's like liking Obama because he's not Bush.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:01 PM

@Robusto Well, I like HTML mail. It's fine if you do it properly. But doing it properly is like trying to get the cannibals and missionaries across the river in one canoe while herding cats and juggling knives.

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@RegDwighт Are you kidding? That's like half of his appeal.

@RegDwighт which is a very popular opinion. and you know how much i like to be popular.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Dude got a nobel prize for being "Not George Bush"

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It's ugly and ungracious and lots of other words beginning with u.

@JSBձոգչ Indeed, your desire to be popular is only outgianted by this room's penis.

uvular.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:03 PM

@Robusto Yes, it CAN be. I don't think it HAS to be.

mmmm uvular

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Uhuru

Uvular vegetarian.

uvular trills are some of my favorite things to do with the mouth

univariate.

@JSBձոգչ swoons

ungulate

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:04 PM

@JSBձոգչ uvular undulations?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 throw away the canoe, use a raft. And a chicken.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт Dammit, now I have to go do that

missed the oil on water, discussion is there an English counterpart?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

> You have been on a raft with a chicken for 8 seconds.

@JohanLarsson That is the English counterpart.

4:05 PM

Oh, raft-chicken! It has been too long.

@Robusto In fact, that's the English part.

@Robusto Well, except no one uses that.

@Robusto ok, found you link but too late, ty

@RegDwighт Now you're just being partitive.

You should be counterpartitive.

Only partially.

4:07 PM

You can't spell party without part.

I can. For three thousand dollars.

I lean towards flagging puns, more offensive than genitals imo

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What, you don't take euros anymore?

What happened to the tögrögs?

@Robusto I do. But in Euros it's like only two thousand. And I like round numbers.

@KitFox they went the way of the dödö.

4:09 PM

Lebowski?

You can't spell tögrög without grög.

Interestingly, Dödel is German for schlong.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

> You have been on a raft with a chicken for 4 minutes 47 seconds.

Interestingly, Schlange is German for snake.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

> Chicken on a raft on a Monday morning, oh what a terrible sight to see, / 'Dabtoes' for'd and the Dustmen aft, sitting there picking at a 'chicken on a raft'.

4:10 PM

@RegDwighт What's the German word for schlort?

@RegDwighт You must be a Dödelsackpfeifer then.

Uh.

Either Germans don't have schlorts, or it's the default. Because they don't have a word for it.

thinks

ah, chicken on a raft

i had almost forgotten about that

All the Germans I've known intimately were rather average.

4:12 PM

What is all this Deutsch doing in my chatroom.

Mine was punning.

I'm surprised they let you see that in your country.

I'm surprised JD remembered that German phrase so accurately.

coughs or whoever that guy is.

Ha

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:18 PM

@KitFox yeah seriously

Well, accurately is perhaps a stretch. I still have no idea what either of them is saying.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I was like "no way you can just repeat some phrase that a native speaker just whipped off to another native speaker"

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 actually, his German is better than that of that "native" speaker.

He doesn't just repeat; he improves it on the fly.

That's how good American doctors are.

I thought you said you didn't understand it.

Oh.

@KitFox I didn't say he improves it to the point of it becoming one bit comprehensible.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:21 PM

@RegDwighт Best medical system money can buy

@tchrist What, giving a metric equivalent?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 No. We have the best politicians money can buy.

@Jez You went from one significant digit to three. This is by definition too much information, and misleading at that.

by definition?

BTW, I see Frau Merkel got her contract renewed for another season.

4:23 PM

Yup.

@Robusto Only with her party.

It's her party and she renews if she wants to.

That's only part of it.

It’s like the idiots who think that if the average body temp is 37C, that means it is 98.6F. And it isn’t.

But it was a Saddamesque victory indeed.

Saddamesque?

4:24 PM

@tchrist actually the average body temp where I come from is 36.6°C.

I've only started hearing about 37 in the Western world.

Saddamesque = Saddam’s + "and"

@RegDwighт We are that hawt.

Yes, but not very cool.

Average human body temperature is 37±½°C. You have to understand the tolerance.

> 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit in degrees Celsius = 37 Celsius

QED

4:26 PM

Wrong.

My Cloudy Calculator can't be wrong.

37 degrees C has only two significant digits.

Thus so too must your answer.

Otherwise you insert false precision that does not exist.

Yes, but that only matters if you care.

@Robusto it's not MyCloudy. It's iCloud. The 1990s called.

If you don’t care, you don’t matter.

4:27 PM

I am made entirely of matter.

@tchrist He went from two to three, didn't he?

@Mahnax Yes. Naughty.

37.0 C is 98.6 F, but 37 C is only 99 F.

Hope this helps.

Have a nice day.

Byez.

Bye.

But none of that matters. If you are checking for a fever, you don't need tenths of a degree.

Don't you mean have a nice.6 day?

4:29 PM

@tchrist that is only true if the scales are close enough. If you are converting from kilometers to meters, your rule obviously makes no sense. It only holds if you are converting from yards.

I regret to report that we have no collective sense of humor.

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We have to make do with individual senses of humor.

@Robusto On average, there aren't any.

I alone have six senses of humor.

So someone must be having minus six.

@MετάEd Mine is an outlier. I find everything funny.

4:31 PM

I have at least two: the aqueous humour and the vitreous humour. Both are in my failing eyes.

@RegDwighт Oh that's me!

@RegDwighт Have you seen what happened to my modest proposal of the lawler as a unit of measure for typographical emphasis?

@Mahnax chuckles

@MετάEd Not since last night.

@MετάEd there was such a proposal?

I suppose it got shot down because one Lawler is too much emphasis to handle for a human.

4:32 PM

@Robusto It's kinda pathetic.

You have to convert to Celcius first.

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Q: Measuring typographical emphasis: the “lawler” and “lawler weight”

RegDwighт said: @Robusto wow, that's formatting to the max. Bold and italics and monospaced and in quotes. John has outlawlered himself.¹ It occurs to me that this is something we can measure. I propose that a single character’s lawler weight (lw) be the standard unit of measure of the typ...

discussion style formatting

OIC.

Sorry, I mistyped.

I meant,

Erm, WTF is this? — Jasper Loy 5 hours ago

Cheeky.

LAWL.

4:33 PM

You should have saven it up for April thirst.

@RegDwighт Naah. It was topical.

I am told it's always April in the topics.

If it doesn't get deleted by then I'll try to remember to promote it on April 1.

I just upvoted it, but it's still in the neg column.

I am seeing a plus 3.

Four now.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:35 PM

I just upvoted it to 4

@RegDwighт It just turned around.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

jinx

OMG we are live as change happens!

@RegDwighт Wait, didn't Henry Miller write a book about the Topic of Cancer?

@Robusto Stop that.

Cooincidentally I am just re-reading Tropic of Cancer.

It's still just a dirty book.

4:36 PM

@MετάEd And what is wrong with dirty books?

Fifty Sashas of Grey.

Next you'll be suggesting that Lawler is Nortonn.

A metric Nortonn.

Good day, Mr. Wallace.

That is the true definition of ass ton.

4:37 PM

Whence asstonishment.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

user image

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@MετάEd puts it on list

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Found that on my desk

@Mahnax Hey Mah.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Look! A Lego chicken just laid a package of Lego Oscar Mayer wieners! That's worth crowing about.

4:38 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Is that lego or chocolate?

@Robusto Nothing at all. I'm re-reading it.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@DavidWallace Lego

Wow, you just find rare LEGO parts like that? On your desk? I suppose you have the 3D printer already.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт none of those are rare

@KitFox Everyone should read it. It's much better than Lady Chatterley’s Lover.

4:38 PM

@DavidWallace How are things?

@MετάEd I've read something of his, but I can't think of what.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 have you seen the chicken in the picture?

Lady Chatterley's Lover — was there ever a duller book written about sexual escapades?

@KitFox He's a major author: you can probably find a book list on his Wikipedia page.

@Robusto Well in its defense it uses cunt in a lovely way.

@MετάEd I was looking there, but nothing seems familiar.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:40 PM

@RegDwighт That chicken, in the picture I uploaded? I have a handful of those

@Mahnax I'm well thanks. You?

It appears in exactly two sets. Both from 2011.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

hm, seems I have both those sets. One in duplicate.

Up to 4.22 Euro on Bricklink.

@MετάEd I'm still pissed at Lawrence for not supporting publication of Joyce's Ulysses in America, claiming it was too pornographic.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:41 PM

Well, 'tisn't rare in my collection.

@DavidWallace Same here. The new job is great and I did well on two tests this week.

Average 1.87, minimum 0.92.

@MετάEd One of my favorite words. It just makes me happy, not sure why.

For any sane part, that would be more like 0.07 and 0.03, respectively.

@KitFox Not maybe thinking of Arthur Miller?

4:42 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I, too, have both. Once. The chickens are still sealed.

@Mahnax It's too late in the year for tests. They should leave you alone.

@MετάEd He wrote The Crucible right?

Not him.

@KitFox Yes.

@KitFox Yes and Death of a Salesman.

I remember the opening scene was something about having sex with a fourteen year old or something.

4:43 PM

@DavidWallace It's almost time for finals though!

And he was married to Marilyn Monroe.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт Well, I have no intention of selling my chickens, at least not the ones that I opened. I have the blacksmith set still unopened, as a dupe... I guess I could part with that. But my collection will grow, like a black hole, until it collapses under its own gravity, destroying itself and me with it.

@Mahnax What, are they on Christmas Day or something?

This is clearly crazy talk.

@DavidWallace Well, they're in January.

4:44 PM

Hello.

That's sort of soon. Hi Cerby!

@Cerberus Greetings.

@Mahnax That seems to me like cruel and unusual punishment. January is for lying in the sun.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 same here. It's just that these days I no longer see a point in opening certain things unless I actually intend to use them. Not because I intend to sell them later. Just so they don't rust, I dunno.

Just do they don't get opened, d'oh.

And who are you, Nike?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:45 PM

@RegDwighт yeah. That's why my 2nd blacksmith set is still sealed, because I haven't even disassembled the first one yet, no need to open the 2nd

@DavidWallace Oh my, you wouldn't want to do that here.

I am not the goddess of victory, contrary to popular belief.

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Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mahnax for the 10 minutes that we get "sunshine"

A question with some linguistic interest. Maybe OP should have cross-posted.

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Q: how to demonstrate whether the sound of ghunnah articulates from the nose or not?

asaalam alaikum, I really need help on this question. Because your meant to read the quran the correct way. jazzakillahu kheiran.

quran quran-recitation

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So anyway. That raft right there is worth 2+ Euro, in used condition. Plus shipping.

4:47 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well, if you wanted to lie in the sun here you'd get a full ten minutes, sure, but you'd have to do it at -30°C in 0.40m of snow.

@Mahnax And you'd have to leave before you return.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт heheh. "used condition". I'd call those chickens "new condition" since, though unpacked, they have been assembled onto one set. But I guess some people are way more anal about what "new" means...

@Cerberus That job doesn't come up much anymore. Besides, you have to serve an apprenticeship as a demigoddess, I think.

No doubt...

But then what does one do as a demigoddess?

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 then make it 5 Euro, what should I say. And hope nobody notices. With the chicken they certainly won't. With the bricks, it's trickier.

4:49 PM

@Cerberus A little of this, a little of that.

You would know, of course.

@RegDwighт And the tape.

@Cerberus You have to fuck your way to the top. As usual.

Umm.

@KitFox yeah, used tape is the worst.

4:49 PM

Not my words.

@Cerberus Ashton Kutcher?

Umm2...

I am now officially speechless.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт Well, the bricks in that raft are completely uninteresting, IMO. I have more of those log-cabin-wall bricks than I know what to do with

I do wonder whom Ashton coaches.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 until one day you actually start building something with them. Then you'll have at least one too few.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт Well, yeah. That's always the way it goes.

I started sorting my collection again the other day.

4:51 PM

Hooray.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I have 4 years accumulated purchases in an unsorted state.

And an incompletely-planned sorting system

I'm doomed

At least that's something. I have 3 years of accumulated purchases in four different unsorted, and three different sorted states.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

four different unsorted states? how is one unsorted state different from another? :)

I have three different sorted states too. But only the older kits are in those states.

You can visit and see for yourself.

It really is true.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

And the cheese slopes. I started a little box for those.

4:53 PM

Some are unsorted at work. Others at home. Some are unsorted and sealed. Others unsorted and not sealed.

Oh, and then there's the cellar. In addition to the living room.

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Q: Does "hurt the back" means "to had a sex"?

I heard from one person that sentence "I hurt my back" means "to had a sex with someone" is it true?

These sort-unsort smoothly into each other. Depending on the moon phase.

Lego in a sordid state.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Well, if you're going to count them like that, I have unsorted and sealed, unsorted and mixed up, unsorted and assembled in the box model, unsorted and disassembled from the box model, unsorted and (dis)?assembled and in need of washing (dusty from being on display).....

But aside from the dusty ones, it's the same work sorting an unsorted kit irregardless of its current state.

Ack!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

4:56 PM

I have some kits that were put away in a nice little bag, so that they could be sorted later or re-assembled, and some that were hastily put away, fully assembled but then partially disassembled to fit in the rubbermaid tub... it's all over the place.

I can't believe you would put that horrible word right next to my name!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox haha, I did it for @Cerb

I'm a rather unsorted Kit today.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Are you fully assembled? or partially disassembled

Unsorted is horrible?

4:58 PM

I am sembled.

I am dissembled.

@Cerberus it's horrible when you try to find that one part out of 6000+ in that one color out of 120+.

And out of sorts?

@RegDwighт Horrible indeed. I remember disaster scenarios. Although we probably didn't have that many colours.

So I was wondering @Reg, when you get saucy, do randomly select words from various languages when you speak?

@Cerberus Probably. The point is, rummaging through cubic metres of LEGO also damages the parts in the long run. Everything scratches everything, over and over and over again.

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