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Jez
4:00 PM
i should just pray for manna
 
Kit
@JSBangs You are also on a crazy editing spree this morning.
 
@JSBangs Here goes:
 
@Kit the tags, i must fix them
 
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A: Are questions about ununderstood English-language jokes on-topic?

psmearsI totally agree with Jeff that The quality of the questions and answers is paramount. Joke questions pose a real danger, because (a) everyone likes them, and (b) they can easily end up trivialising the site. However, I can't help but think the policy in the FAQ at time of writing is overly re...

 
Jez
geez that makes me sweat to watch
 
4:03 PM
@psmears My hat is off to you. A very well worded argument.
 
@psmears excellent answer. +1
 
@JeffParker Thank you! Comments welcome, here or on the question.
 
Kit
@Jez What the hell is wrong with you?
 
Jez
hey it was on my youtube front page
 
@psmears I think the only comment I can add would generally be +1 ... +2 if I could, but since I can't, +1 will have to do.
 
4:05 PM
@JeffParker You're very kind!
 
Kit
@Jez I shudder to think why.
 
@psmears Great answer.
 
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Q: Is there a more eloquent word for a zigzag?

RatzThe title pretty much says it all. Is there a more eloquent word for a zigzag?

Sounds like Gen Ref to me. Or GAFTOD.
 
@Robusto I've told it to GRoff
 
@Robusto what's the OD there?
 
Kit
4:09 PM
@psmears I like it too, but I'd remove the pineapple reference.
 
@JSBangs or dictionary
 
It would seem that someone gave a monkey* a computer, and after bashing at the keyboard long and hard enough, he actually managed to send a single email**; since there was no discipline for all the wrongdoing, but “Good monkey! Have Banana!” for ‘correctness’***, the monkey began to imitate his own actions, eventually, given the nature of randomness and the monkey’s articulation (but subdued by his own intellectual inferiority), he managed to begin sending 1 in 10 emails correctly**** - out of such sheer chaos was born what we now know to be a ‘mailer’*****.
 
Kit
@MrDisappointment I remember that.
 
@RegDwight Now, much more fun than messing with DCs!
 
@Kit Really? It's somewhat incidental to the answer, I suppose; do you feel it distracts to much?
 
Kit
4:11 PM
Or maybe I don't.
 
@Kit You do? I just typed it in an email to a colleague..
 
Kit
@psmears Kind of an inside reference, which is something that you probably ought to avoid in this answer.
 
Mar 22 at 12:55, by Robusto
GAFT = Get A Frickin' Thesaurus ... except without the euphemism.
 
Kit
@MrDisappointment No, I was thinking of something much ruder, that was a comment on an answer a while back.
@Robusto Is "Frickin'" a euphemism?
Or "Thesaurus?"
 
@Kit — Hey, don't remove my pineapple reference!
 
4:13 PM
@Kit Thought there would be a simple explanation - but I get awful anxious when I think someone is that close to my mind!
@Kit Depends on the context; not necessarily in hotel rooms with world leaders, no.
 
Kit
@Robusto I'm just thinking that "exclusion from the chat clique" is something we should avoid emphasizing in this discussion.
 
@Kit: Yes. I am an editor-at-heart, but I wish the "active" page wouldn't show all my edits... Oh well. I am mostly going through and methodically removing "thanks", taglines, etc. as well as improving grammar and word flow. I edit a lot of things - not just on SE.
Sorry for coming in w/o warning like that
But only now have I noticed your comment of ~25 mins ago
 
Kit
@drm65 I was picking up what you were putting down. No problem.
Looks like my server is back online. That means I am back to shirking work!
 
And I will confess that my eye is on Copy Editor... please don't kill me.
 
ok, i just got the number of questions under 100. i'm stopping for the day
@drm65 no need to apologize.
 
4:18 PM
@drm65 If we killed you, we'd have to kill @JSBangs too, and that would be bad ;-)
 
Why does it say "279" under my avatar in this chatroom?
 
Kit
@drm65 That's your total rep.
Wait, but that doesn't make sense.
 
Not at all
 
I think it's parent user total rep, but it's confusing
 
@Kit: I"m capped at 3154 today on EL&U
3156 rather
 
Kit
4:21 PM
It shows as your rep for the Board and Card game site though.
 
Oh, there.
Why does my BCG rep show on ELU chat?
 
Kit
But mine is my total rep across all sites...
Huh.
 
Jez
yeah it should total all @drm65 linked accounts
 
maybe there's a problem w/ his account?
 
Flair shows 3.5K
So that can't be the problem
 
Kit
4:24 PM
@Jez Oh well maybe that's it. Are your accounts linked @drm65?
 
@kit They should be
 
Kit
Does anyone feel like writing a nice note on this one?
 
Jez
@Kit no, i dont know why it's showing 279. it should be 4000+
 
Kit
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Q: How to politely ask for a Payment for the Research Done(Freelancing)

Can't TellLet us say that I am talking with a client about a potential project and that I have done some research on the project as well. Let us say that the project will require considerable research in the future as well. Since we haven't agreed on the project, I'm not sure if I will get paid. How do I p...

 
@Kit: 7039
Ok, please endure another newbie: why does my avatar appear larger on my first comment here today?
 
Jez
4:27 PM
@drm65 it gets bigger as your text gets longer
 
@drm65 the avatar auto-embiggens if you have multiple consecutive messages
 
Wow!
 
Jez
embiggen :-)
 
I see.
:-)
 
See above for a convenient example :-)
 
4:27 PM
Yes.
 
Today's xkcd:
 
But about the rep thing: even if my accounts weren't linked, it should still show 3.1K from ELU, not 279 from BCG
 
Kit
@Rhodri Love it!
 
@Rhodri Where did I see that before?
Meta?
 
@drm65 it was on Language Log today
 
4:31 PM
@JSBangs Ah. I should have expected that.
@Kit It did make my pendantic little fanfic writer's heart flutter :-)
 
Kit
@Rhodri You write Strunk/White fan fiction?
 
@Kit Dear sweet God, no!
Though now you mention it.... no. Just no.
 
Kit
@Rhodri Now I's confused.
 
I write fanfiction, just not S/W
 
Kit
@Rhodri So spill it. Which? What?
 
4:33 PM
> White leaned in and whispered into Strunk's ear, "You know how much I love it when you omit unnecessary words."
> Their lips touched. "When I'm with you, baby, all words are unnecessary."
 
Kit
@JSBangs Strunk slapped White, and said "You misplaced your period, whore."
 
@JSBangs: My eyes, my eyes!
 
@Kit fixed. but maybe that was part of the humor, neh?
 
Kit
@JSBangs Well, now my joke makes no sense.
 
@Kit people will reconstruct it from context
 
4:36 PM
@Kit Mostly I write in really obscure fandoms, in a desperate attempt not to be noticed.
 
Kit
I am embarrassed once again today; I didn't realize that White of Strunk & White was that White, one of my favorite children's authors.
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What the —? Why can't my brain make sense of "children's author?" What's wrong there?
@Rhodri Ah. Asterix chez les bichons and such?
 
Oh, more obscure than that. I cut my metaphorical teeth on the 90s revamp of The Professionals that nobody has ever heard of.
 
@Rhodri but what fandom could possibly be more obscure than Strunk/White?
 
Kit
@Rhodri Say it ain't so.
 
"It ain't so."
I live to serve
 
Kit
4:43 PM
Why is it the ones who live to serve never seem to be serving me?
 
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Q: Launch of school's magazine.

adewaleIs it grammatically correct to say "launch of school's magazine" or "launching of school's magazine"?

this is currently the top question on the Active page, and the OP doesn't seem to be showing up to make it any less terrible. close votes, anyone?
 
@Kit Never fear, I'll be the Gabrielle to your Xena.
 
@aedia The annoying, mouthy one?
 
Kit
@JSBangs Oh yeah. That user. Voted.
@aedia Mmm. Be careful now...
 
@Rhodri I believe you mean the persuasive bard who spreads word of Xena's fabulous exploits. And the one who features prominently in some slash fiction that I would know nothing about.
 
Kit
4:57 PM
@aedia How can you not love Joxur?
 
@JSBangs Gaaarrrrgh! I totally just missed that opportunity.
 
i only have one vote left today. who should i spend it on?
(yes, this is the sort of day for heavy metal.)
 
@aedia I think the series writers did quite enough of their own teasing, thank you :-)
 
Kit
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Q: What is the proper/formal names for these rooms?

Chrisbloom7We just moved into a new house with a very unique layout. I'm wondering how to describe some of the rooms using formal definitions. The main floor has an open-air space that is pretty versatile -- it could be a living room, or it could be a dining room, we haven't decided ourselves yet -- and ext...

Oh dear.
I don't know where to begin here.
 
@Kit Can we close it? Can we? Can we??!
 
Kit
5:00 PM
@MrDisappointment Easy, pumpkin. I think there might be some salvage here, but I'm not sure what.
Yet.
 
well, it's really just a set of three
 
I think what he really needs is a good reference on buildings. I can't think how we could provide that, though.
 
Kit
@JSBangs Could be. Or "What's the difference between a great room and an atrium?"
That would be on-topic right? Because I'm writing a comment saying that it would be.
 
i agree that it would be on-topic
if a little niche, but whatever
 
5:06 PM
It's better than a request localized to someone's particular house.
 
Kit
Well, I ran out of space. You guys want to drop in some comments too?
 
@Kit, nah, yours looks fine
 
5:22 PM
@Kit Yours is good. I don't want to confuse things.
 
What are you even talking about? I would look it up under your recent activity, but I have two wars going on.
 
Kthx.
 
@Kit I just suggested looking for more specialist sites, but since I don't know any I'm not sure how helpful that would be.
It is just me, or does Tom Au have a habit of pointless gravedigging?
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A: Is there a non-sexual meaning of "to have a hard-on for someone"?

Tom AuI believe that there are two somewhat similar expressions to using the term "hard on." Only one of them has a sexual connotation. To BE "hard on" somebody is to be tough or difficult with them. This can come from either a man or a woman. It often refers to "aggression" but has no sexual connotat...

 
@Rhodri Gravedigging?
 
Kit
5:36 PM
@aedia Answering old questions.
@Rhodri And I agree.
 
@Kit Ohh. That makes more sense. My initial thought was to interpret it the same as the expression "dig your own grave" and that didn't work at all.
 
@Kit I know there's a point to gravedigging if you can offer an improved answer, but he doesn't.
 
6:16 PM
Guys, let's discuss our life
 
@trg787 what about it?
 
Abt Lenin = a mushroom .... heh
 
Lenin was a mushroom () was a televised hoax by musician Sergey Kuryokhin and reporter Sergey Sholokhov. It was first broadcast on 17 May 1991 on Leningrad Television. The hoax had the form of an interview. In the interview Kuryokhin was telling about his findings that Lenin used to consume a lot of psychedelic mushrooms and eventually turned into a mushroom himself. This absurd idea wasn't presented all at once; instead there was a resemblance of logical chain of reasonings, facts and quotations from various sources. An aura of plausibility was created using manipulation of facts, pseudo...
 
@RegDwight — Another fond belief shot to hell.
 
You mean you don't believe it?
 
6:31 PM
@RegDwight — Your article calls it a hoax.
 
But it's a televised hoax. That's like a double negative.
It must be true.
Because it if isn't, then, in Lenin's very own words, WHAT ARE WE TO DO?
What Is to Be Done? Burning Questions of Our Movement ( Chto delat’?) is a political pamphlet written by the Russian revolutionary Vladimir Lenin in 1901 and published in 1902. Its title is inspired by the novel of the same name by the nineteenth-century Russian revolutionary Nikolai Chernyshevsky. In What Is to Be Done?, Lenin argues that the working class will not spontaneously become political simply by fighting economic battles with employers over wages, working hours and the like. To convert the working class to Marxism, Lenin argues that Marxists should form a political party, or "...
Meh, my translation is funnier. Also, more accurate.
 
@RegDwight — You should have been Lenin.
 
That is a great title for my autobiography. "I should have been Lenin". I am so stealing it.
 
Royalties.
 
Not in the Soviet Union.
 
6:39 PM
heh... I studied it in the middle school.... But abs can't recall abt it
 
In the Soviet Union, everything was Fair Use. And everything else was Unfair Use.
 
Stop reminding me.
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Q: Can 'one' replace an antecedent?

msh210Over at Judaism.SE someone asked a question with the title (1) What is the source for not walking with one's hands behind his back and someone else edited it to read (2) What is the source for not walking with one's hands behind one's back commenting (in the edit summary) "antecedent-...

I am so not responding to that.
 
You mean the question is a joke? :P
 
No. Or if it is, it's not very funny.
 
Funny or not, jokes must be closed.
 
6:45 PM
Well, do you think you could replace an antecedent? Imagine the pressure.
 
Jez
you can replace the antecedent with one, or one can replace the antecedent with you.
 
@Robusto I am replacing Lenin right now.
You're so forgetful.
 
Kit
@Jez You should definitely jump in with thon.
 
Jez
thon should be in all respectable dictionaries
 
@Kit Hopefully as a comment.
 
6:47 PM
@RegDwight — In Soviet Russia Lenin replaces you.
 
@Robusto You mean he dies in my stead? And then lives on forever? Sounds like a deal.
 
@RegDwight I don't think it's a joke, but the OP has dramatically missed the point.
 
Jez
so, food-wise? i went for the supermarket's low-fat garlic bread slices
 
@Rhodri My calling it a joke was itself a joke.
 
Jez
6:48 PM
they're a bit dry, but otherwise OK
 
At least it was supposed to.
@Rhodri But re: missing the point, that should be an answer.
 
Kit
@Jez Barf. Why bother?
 
Jez
why not?
 
Fox not like eat bread.
 
Jez
ive got the spag bol on simmer now :-)
 
6:50 PM
Sounds painful.
Doctor, doctor, my spag bol is on simmer.
 
@RegDwight — Lenin didn't really die. Someone told him to get stuffed, and he took it literally.
 
Kit
"I want tasteless hunks of cardboard, not that icky full-flavored spinach that actually has nutritional value and goes well with bolognese..."
@Robusto Ha!
 
Jez
no, spinach is bitter and twisted
 
@Robusto That's what the "lives on forever" part is all about.
 
@RegDwight — OK, so go get stuffed.
 
6:52 PM
No thank you.
I think we agreed that Lenin will handle that instead.
 
@RegDwight Actually I'm going to retract. He did his research, and Wikipedia supports the inconsistency.
 
Fine.
 
Kit
@Jez Baby spinach is sweet and adorable.
 
Jez
ah-ga-ga-ga-gaga
 
7:05 PM
miss 60 sec, then the interview, Kuruokhian at the right
 
does this have something to do with lenin?
 
@trg787 Thanks. Watching.
@JSBangs Yes. Scroll a bit up.
 
That's so гей.
 
7:28 PM
It's sooooooo pity..... my trafic..... I can't watch the link to the end
 
@trg787 Which link?
Cause the Lenin video has stopped for me, too.
Right when he picked up the phone for the second time.
 
mine link, I spent 73 mb of trafic, not too cheap for me
 
Kit
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Q: Does "whom" serve any purpose in the English language?

AlanWhich is to say, if we were to remove it from the English language and replace it with "who" in all contexts ("who" gains the definitions and parts of speech of 'whom'), would English lose any of its expressive power? Would anything have to be rephrased or rewritten? Can whom provide emphasis on ...

This must go.
I don't even know how to comment politely on it.
 
Serously, what's going on?
6 hours ago, by RegDwight
Have the Gates of Hell been opened?
BTW, before I forget: question unclear or not useful = downvote.
 
Let's rename this chat room into "Lenin was a mushroom" :)
 
7:34 PM
NARQ!
 
I could, but we are not into spreading truth in this room.
 
Or better let's organize a party against capitalistic monsters.....
 
Wow, and they didn't even have to create the whom tag.
 
Kit
@RegDwight They are mounting an assault against our community.
 
"Whom" was a mushroom.
 
7:39 PM
i couldn't even downvote it. i ran out of votes today
 
I love the comment on this question...
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Q: "They don't use either of them" versus "They don't use any of them"?

genesisWhich is more correct, "They don't use either of them" or "They don't use any of them"? I am pretty sure than "any" is more correct, but can I use either "either" ?

 
at least i got to closevote it
 
So are we all gonna wake up one day and say, "Hey, I just realized. There's no freakin' reason at all to have an EL&U.SE"?
 
For Jeff that day lies in the past, apparently.
 
So long as questions keep coming, there's always a reason: we can cast more close-votes!
 
7:42 PM
@MrDisappointment YES
 
@MrDisappointment — I live for that.
BTW, 4 more days till Da Raptchah.
 
Jez
Da what?
 
Kit
@Robusto Not so? Isn't that in October or something?
 
@Robusto 11/11/11? That's hokery pokery, I'll have nothing of it!
 
Jez
ah yes
11/11/11 11:11:11
that'll be fun
 
7:49 PM
@Robusto I thought that was supposed to be a couple of months ago?
 
Kit
@Rhodri It got postponed.
@Rhodri Somebody went and changed the requirement again.
You know management, always messing with the spec.
 
May 23 at 12:51, by RegDwight
Your rapture was all broken.
 
You'll see.
 
And I, for one, can foresee that they'll change the parameters yet again.
 
And, for the record, @RegDwight misspelled Raptchah.
 
Jez
7:50 PM
hmm. how come some people's names are blue, and some black?
 
@Robusto And you misspelled RedDwight.
 
@Jez Because black is cool.
 
Blue = can kick you.
 
There must be a 'Yo dawg' on rapture, just must.
Something about rapturing your rapture, or something.
 
7:53 PM
@Robusto: Gee, thanks. I was just contemplating what to make for supper.
 
It will all be revealed in 4 days. Not necessarily consecutive days, mind you.
 
Kit
@Robusto More like "God days." 7 God days = about 3 billion years.
 
@Kit — Nah. Nothing religulous.
 
Kit
<— not worried about Rapture happening this millenium.
 
But it is a real event, and barring unforeseen adversity, it will happen. In 4 days. Not necessarily consecutive.
And all of your meaningful little lives will remain profoundly unaffected. Oh, and no Christians will be spared. Or harmed in any way.
 
Jez
7:59 PM
@Kit 7 God days must be more like 14 billion years
 
Ya, it doesn't add up, better leave the big-G out of this one.
 
Notorious big-G?
 
Kit
@Robusto Yes. Surely. backing away slowly
 
I don't think you can express this in Big-O notation, either.
 
Try Omega.
Or Pummeller.
Sorry, inside joke.
 
Kit
8:01 PM
@Robusto Interesting factoid about Big-O notation: ...
 
You misspelled intere... well, pretty much everything.
 
@RegDwight — Speaking of which, who knew @Cerberus could be weaponized?
 
You know, the trouble with factoids...
 
@Robusto You only just got him it?
 
Kit
On my daily commutes. TTFN.
 
8:10 PM
@RegDwight — No, I only just got it yesterday.
 
Good. You will actually need a couple for an achievement.
 
@Kit TTYS
 
8:33 PM
TTYL
 
Jez
8:58 PM
My attention span has become so short in the last few years.
Unless I'm finding something gripping, I have trouble reading past the first couple of paragraphs.
I used to read stuff much more thoroughly. :-\
 
Hm. Did I actually welcome @callithumpian to the 10k club?
 
9:37 PM
@Callithumpian, congratulations on your 10k!
 
Should I dust off that old gift basket?
 
@RegDwight Something very odd is happening with your avatar in my view. It keeps disappearing and being replaced with text, but only in some places.
 
Surely everyone is bored of it at this point.
@aedia Sorry, that's stupid me failing at the Turing test once again. I can't even tell text from images.
 
@RegDwight We've had so many exciting new things you could spice it up with, though!
 
Yeah... I must admit I can remember only one that would be worth it, and very vaguely at that, my head is empty today.
 
9:47 PM
Oh, c'mon. They're rife for the picking.
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Q: "Then" versus "than"

Aaron Do you think you are smarter then me? While this question should be using than...I have to wonder if this is a debatable topic within English or is this cut and dry? If this specific instance is indeed cut and dry are there any instances on the usage of then and than that would cause a hot d...

I love this one
 
Jez
9:59 PM
wtf?
what am i missing, why did that get +7? it deserves to be below zero
 
@Jez I really don't know. I didn't exist then.
 
Well I am happy to report that I am not one of the seven.
I am one of the 28 who upticked Kosmo, though.
 
I think it's funny that it's got "cut and dry" in both the question and an answer, too; that's another thing prescriptivists like to peeve about.
 
Well, the sis is obviously mimicking the OP.
 
And than another answer goes on to peeve about me and I. Hi-larious. Sorry I missed it happening live.
 
Jez
10:08 PM
Are we getting to the point now where people are just making single word requests for the fun of it?
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Q: What do you call a number that is a power of 2?

JenI know there is a term for a number that is the power of 2, such as 8, 32, 128, 4096 -- but it slipped my mind.

Why does the questioner have a problem with the phrase "power of 2"?
 
Well, there's an answer saying just that.
Can anyone explain this to me?
Why is it at 15?
I mean, obviously it got multicollidered.
But there were 15 people who understood it?
Most importantly, what do I do now?
CW it? Delete?
Converting to a comment would be the most appropriate thing to do, but that kills the formatting.
Today is not my day.
 
I think it follows as a funnier version of the other, earlier, joke-y answer about temperature gradient.
It does seem like they both should be comments but that would kill it. Hmm.
 
I mean, in a way, that's not my problem.
 
Jez
multicollidered?
 
A comment should be a comment. Properly formatting that in plain text should be the worry of the author.
@Jez The question got in that MultiCollider thingamajig in the upper left corner.
Basically free advertising across all sites.
 
10:17 PM
@RegDwight Besides, they only got it from Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
 
If I knew how to actually pronounce that / spell it out, I'd go ahead and convert.
Perhaps @Kosmonaut can have a look. Tomorrow.
Me, I suppose I should go to bed.
This has been a long day.
 
Jez
multicollider?!
i dont see no multicollider
 
35
Q: Why doesn't the Stack Exchange™ MultiCollider SuperDropdown™ exist on Area 51?

KennyTM Aside from the "gen-u-wine™" thing I actually want to have the global-inbox enabled in Area 51 (maybe http://stackexchange.com too).

That's the official name.
 
Jez
oh the global inbox notification?
 
@RegDwight Sleep well!
 
Jez
10:20 PM
or hot questions
 
@aedia I sure hope I will... Thank you.
Man, those things Jeff said are just insulting, sorry.
I wish I were heading off to Italy tomorrow rather than in 6 weeks.
But hey, whatever.
Night all.
 
Awwh. Don't worry, I will take a stand for pineapples!
@Jez The hot questions part is where things multicollide, I believe.
 
Kit
11:11 PM
@RegDwight I asked an on-topic, perfectly inane question, just for you. To ease your mind.
 
11:24 PM
@Kit Surely you meant to ask an off-topic, perfectly insane question and that one just slipped out.
 

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