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1:58 AM
@Vitaly I have some baby photos for you finally!
A couple more in the gallery. I took them in a park a few weekends ago.
 
 
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Q: Verb agreement with subjects of different grammatical number

JKDDOWI'm writing a technical guide and trying to define 'reader' as it relates to the subject of the guide. The reader(s) is/are the user(s) who view the content. How do I get rid of all those conditionals? I've also considered, The reader or readers are the users who view the content. .....

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Q: When a sentence uses an optional plural, should the rest of the sentence treat it as singular or plural?

Lord TorgamusConsider the following sentence: We assume that the individual(s) possesses some general knowledge of the rules of football. Is "possesses" correct there? Should it be "possess"? Is the rule more complex than always using one or the other?

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Q: Are or is with (s) conveying possibility of plural and singular?

Babiker Possible Duplicate: When a sentence uses an optional plural, should the rest of the sentence treat it as singular or plural? When there is a possibility one is referring to a plural or a singular and makes so apparent using (s) like: The computer(s) are on. Should 'are' or 'is' be used?

 
 
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9:39 AM
> Is "possesses" correct there? Sounds strangely. Of course, in e.g. Russian you can say "vladeyu znaniyami" but it sounds very formalistic and bombastic.
 
10:00 AM
You reminded me abt Samantha Fox. It was a charming girl for us. When I was a little boy it was Angela Davies. But nobody here paid any serious attention to the propaganda.
in Afganistan... the USSR cockroachead to there almost by accident We need NO this country. It was for us only a constant headache
 
 
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A: Are questions about ununderstood English-language jokes on-topic?

Jeff AtwoodAnother (bad) example: Could anyone please explain this joke - I just don't get it... I do not feel that "explain this joke to me" should be on topic on a site ostensibly for linguists, etymologists, and (serious) English language enthusiasts In fact, I feel such questions degrade the...

Thoughts?
Wow and now Jeff is actually closing them all.
I'm wondering if that is in response to the recent flood of poor-quality questions.
Then again, none of them was about jokes.
 
@Reg
 
Yes?
 
@RegDwight, what do you think abt my English? Does it sound funnilly?
 
"Funny" is subjective.
I don't think I ever laughed out loud, but you are entertaining at times.
 
I studied French for 10 years, in a middle school. English.. only in my institute I was shocked when I was said that letter is pronounced as "ai" Really shoked
letter "i" f***
 
11:39 AM
I even started to argue with our she-tutor abt "i", I could not believe that it's "ai" Btw I was in the best high school of the WORLD - MEPHI On faculty of experimental and theoretical physics
PS not the best of course...... just one of the best
Kurekhin made an interview on Russian TV channel, on subj "Lenin is a mushroom" So pity that you cant' understand his humour. Then fools wrote angry letters to TV: ah... Lenin could'nt be a mushroom... a mushroom can't walk but Lenin could walk
Kurehkin duarian 1 hour explain why Lenin is a mushroom..... You'd pissed youself if can und1erstand1 this
PS Kurehkin (1954-1996) is a super musician.. I gave a link above
 
12:18 PM
@trg787 You can edit your stuff here.
But only for a period of 2 minutes.
So if you have made a typo and want to fix it, hover over the message and click on the arrow that appears to the right. There will be an "edit" link.
If you want to edit your last message, that's even easier. Just press the up-arrow key.
(Again, you only have 2 minutes, then the message is locked as is.)
 
@RegDwight, broter, I'm a wreck at the time
 
12:41 PM
American humour... a bit stupid one.... I wish you saw and understood "A lecture on brome" by Kurehkin .... it's incredibly funny
 
12:52 PM
@trg787 Well, how about linking to it?
Actually I just searched Wikipedia.
«Ленин — гриб» — телевизионный сюжет-мистификация, подготовленный музыкантом Сергеем Курёхиным и журналистом Сергеем Шолоховым и впервые показанный в телевизионной передаче «Пятое колесо» 17 мая 1991 года по Ленинградскому телевидению. Сюжет строится в виде интервью, которое Сергей Шолохов брал у Сергея Курёхина. Содержание Курёхин создал некий миф, согласно которому Ленин в больших количествах употреблял галлюциногенные грибы и сам в результате превратился в гриб. Этот заведомо абсурдный тезис не преподносился зрителю сразу — вместо этого создавалась иллюзия некоего логического рассужд...
 
Hi all
Anyone know why Jeff closed this?
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A: What is the explanation for this joke - I just don't get it...

psmearsIn Catholicism (and indeed many other branches of Christianity), the six weeks leading up to Easter are a time of contemplation and purification before the major festival. This period is known as Lent, and it is common to deny oneself something (say, sweets, chocolate, or playing computer games) ...

 
@psmears Scroll a bit up.
 
@RegDwight Thanks, got it :)
 
I still haven't, frankly. :)
I'll go speculate while taking a shower.
Brb.
 
I don't agree with the decision... often questions about jokes raise interesting points about usage and linguistics...
 
1:01 PM
Do you remember a story ? Some Russians let out 3 pigs at territory of an American school. The pigs were painted by 3 ciphers: 1, 2, 4. The school guard catched them very quicly but they couldn't understand: where is #3? They sought for it 1 week.
 
umm... do go on?
 
Many years ago I liked to read Ben Jonson, very intersesting
 
1:18 PM
Btw Jonson trancsibed his name namely as "Jonson", not "Johnson"
 
@psmears Yeah, neither do I. I mean, come on. The questions have been sitting there for months, and we have 50+ people who can close-vote.
That's why I am wondering what triggered that decision.
I mean, if there were tons of stupid questions actually driving people off the site...
But I still see all the regulars all the time; some high-quality former contributors have even made a comeback (Stan Rogers, Vincent McNabb); and our traffic is looking good.
So not only is the site not crumbling, it's thriving.
 
 
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3:31 PM
@RegDwight Totally agree... there have certainly been times when the site has come under pressure (vgv8 anyone?) but this doesn't feel like one... I hadn't noticed a particular prevalence of "I don't understand this joke" questions compared to "I don't understand this figure of speech", "I don't understand this word used in this way" etc...
And looking closer I see the meta question has been open for months!
 
And my answer has been accepted forever, too.
I wonder if @Kosmonaut has noticed. He's been lurking here the whole day.
 
The joke question? I found it really surprising when Jeff closed it.
I think "explain this joke" questions can be off-topic, but certainly not when the joke relies on wordplay.
 
@Kosmonaut My feelings exactly...
 
I really did wonder, in any case, what made Jeff decide to intervene and unilaterally close that question, since it's so rare he closes any question on this site.
 
And I don't feel that off-topic questions linger around long here without being closed - quite the reverse :)
@Kosmonaut (That question and several others...)
 
3:39 PM
If he had mod-closed it after 2 or 3 people voted to close, okay; unilateral close votes should be rare, and probably deserve at least a comment!
Wow, now I just saw the Jeff Atwood comment in meta.
What the heck?
Editing the FAQ too?
And he edited to: ""Explain this joke to me", except in the case where the crux of the joke is some particularly subtle aspect of English."
 
Indeed...
 
Okay then:
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Q: What does the joke with the punchline about Chrome and Hollandaise mean, and why is it funny?

S RedA joke goes like this: A friend at work had an unusual dental related problem recently. About a month ago he had to have a small steel plate inserted in his mouth. A week later he noticed the plate was starting to rust. The dentist asked him if he had a change in his eating or drinking habits tha...

Why did he close this?
The crux of the joke is a pun.
 
... which is a rather difficult criterion to judge, given that if you don't understand the joke, you probably don't know what it hinges on :-/
 
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A: What is the explanation for this joke - I just don't get it...

psmearsIn Catholicism (and indeed many other branches of Christianity), the six weeks leading up to Easter are a time of contemplation and purification before the major festival. This period is known as Lent, and it is common to deny oneself something (say, sweets, chocolate, or playing computer games) ...

Crux of joke is pun
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Q: Don't understand the joke: my milk's gone bad...

MaxThis is a joke from the TV series "Friends". — Can I borrow this? My milk's gone bad. — I hate that. I once had a thing of half-and-half. Stole my car. I'm thinking that it has something to do with the ambiguity of "gone bad", but I don't understand what "I once had a thing of half-and-ha...

This one relies on the different meanings of "bad"
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Q: Analyzing Will Ferrell's "I Thought" joke

makerofthings7I'm reading Will Ferrell's Twitter where he wrote Just thought a thought but the thought I thought wasn't the thought I thought I thought. Does the sentence still have the same meaning if you remove the last "I thought"? Is this grammatical word play possible with other words? Is ther...

This one isn't asking to have a joke explained.
It is analyzing a sentence that happens to be funny.
 
I think there are certain types of question where we have to be lenient about people asking off-topic questions: not that we don't close them, but just accept that people who don't know the answer (and why else would they ask?) won't know that they happen to be off-topic - so close the question, but don't jump down their throat for asking...
 
3:45 PM
Yes, that is true too.
 
Um, @Kosmonaut, you should probably @-mention Jeff when replying to his comment. :P
 
Oh, I'll fix it.
 
He might actually get it delivered to him anyway, but it just looks as if you were addressing me.
 
Maybe I was.
I really wonder what bothered him so much about those questions.
 
 
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Jez
6:11 PM
> Ears torn off in Accrington 'vicious' attack
I wonder whether the attacker commenced with the plea, "lend me your ears".
 
Holy crap, ouch
 
Good evening!
 
Hello
 
Hey there
Uhm
this place looks a bit abandoned :D or maybe everybody runs away when I log in lol
 
6:27 PM
I think it is just a matter of it being Sunday :)
 
As in "everybody is out while you're on the computer"? :D It might be that
 
Yeah, but I happen to be watching baseball on TV, so I'm here :)
 
Who's playing?
 
Red Sox and Orioles
 
I can't watch baseball being here but it would be cool to. Same goes for basketball... Damn Time Zones.
Oh thanks
 
Jez
6:30 PM
Orioles? Sounds like a brand of cookie.
 
xD
 
In theory you could, if you wanted to spend $100 per year. MLB streams the games over the internet.
An oriole is a type of bird :)
 
Yeah but I would need to watch it during night time... that's the main problem...
 
I feel similarly about European soccer matches — the times are all wrong, and it makes it hard to follow.
 
Do you follow a team in particular?
 
6:33 PM
In soccer? Not really
 
6:46 PM
Well, I'll catch you guys later
have fun watching Baseball
 
Jez
7:36 PM
hmm
offline for maintenance? i don't see anything about that in the serverfault blog.
 
 
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10:32 PM
Haha @MrHen another guy with a single-word-request and an update you will love.
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Q: Is there a generic word in English that means "through time"?

chaiguyI know "temporal" means "to do with time", but I'm looking specifically for a term that means "spanning time" or "over time". Not necessarily all time, as "eternal" would mean, nor do I want to necessarily imply anything about the span of time (e.g. being long or short). Upon reflection, I guess...

I need a generic word for X. Update: oh, I need it in a very narrow programming context.
 
Haha.
 
Seriously, ever since you complained on meta that people would do that, I've been paying close attention, and indeed they do just that.
 
@RegDwight Holy wow, that is a confusing question.
 
But he actually accepted the very first answer.
Posted before his update.
 
"So... I need this word but not really. It is more like this word. Or that one." So those? "No."
 
10:34 PM
And not changed thereafter.
@MrHen Well, the record for that one got broken yesterday.
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Q: Metaword required

TerryI need a new word or, even better, an old word that I don't know. This gets terribly meta (in a Hofstadter sense) and recursive, so I hope that this makes sense. The word I need is one that describes a word that embodies a concept. So, for example, a mouse is a small furry rat, but in a lab some...

Seen that?
 
Haha, no
Oh what the hell.
 
in English Language and Usage, Mar 9 at 3:45, by Kosmonaut
I read through this question a few times and now I feel like I don't understand English anymore.
That was about a different question, one by vgv8. But that's how I felt this time around.
 
Is he talking about hypernyms?
 
I don't understand how it is at +8
 
@MrHen I don't understand anything at all.
@Vitaly That was my first thought.
But the question is a moving target.
 
10:38 PM
@Vitaly No. He really wants the word "word"
 
OK, I didn't care to read through all of it.
 
But that was "too general" which is the entire point
 
Note how Robusto's term is an excellent fit for the first situation, but not for the second or the third.
 
Term was a good compromise.
@RegDwight Those situations are not supposed to use the word he is requesting. Those are examples of what the word is supposed to describe
 
Well thanks for nothing, I already was confused! :P
 
10:40 PM
Really, the question is: "What is a word for a word that needs to be coined to describe a new thing?"
As in, word or term
Or jargon or name or any of the other examples that he dismisses in the body
What a terrible question
 
And yet, term is at +7 while the question is at +8.
It has damaged the very fabric of the universe and is sucking reps by the dozen.
 
11:33 PM
35 messages moved from War Metal Tyrant
 
@RegDwight Eek, drama.
 
Yeah.
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Q: Are questions about ununderstood English-language jokes on-topic?

Nicolas RaoulIn a song video made by an American acquaintance, there is a joke that I don't understand. I am not a native speaker, and I guess most English speakers would understand what makes his joke funny. Is it on-topic to ask what is the meaning of his play on words? As asked by Jeff, here is some c...

 
Heh.
 
I'm not gonna participate any time soon. I'll see where this leads first.
 
@RegDwight I am upvoting things I agree with (namely comments) but I find that my opinions on these subjects are typically in the minority.
 
11:42 PM
@MrHen Um, your opinions being?
 
@RegDwight In this case?
 
Yes.
 
Jokes are off-topic. So are questions about the meanings in lyrics; poems; etc.
 
Well, poems and songs are getting closed extremely fast.
 
@RegDwight Sure. I think jokes belong in the same category. If we allow jokes, we should allow song lyrics.
 
11:44 PM
Interesting.
 
If we don't allow song lyrics, we shouldn't allow jokes
 
I'm not sure that is in the minority, if put that way.
 
The topics are similar in their intent: Explain this to me; I don't understand it.
@RegDwight The voting on comments/answers in that meta thread (and others like it) are almost always the opposite of what I choose
But I tend to land on the restrictive side of content pruning.
 
I have abstained from voting this far,
I find myself letting more and more decisions to the community.
 
Basically, I tend to agree with nohat and disagree with Cerberus
I also tend to agree with Jeff
Disagree with kiamlaluno
We just all hold different positions on these things
 
11:47 PM
The issue right now is that whether or not Jeff is right, this kind of comes out of nowhere.
The Chuck Norris got autocollidered. It was one of our most famous questions ever, and still is.
 
It isn't personal; I like everyone
@RegDwight Haha, true.
 
Jeff must have seen it.
 
@RegDwight I hate that stupid thing. It encourages the worst behavior
 
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he has voted for ShreevatsaR's answer.
I mean, his comments sound a bit like, this site is coming off track as of late.
Which it isn't.
 
@RegDwight I am not sure I've seen that question.
@RegDwight Eh... you were just posting earlier about a serious of questions. ;)
 
11:49 PM
But it's linked from that thread, probably several times.
 
(I don't think it is off track, for the record.)
Oh, that one
I see
So it just recently got super-collided?
 
@MrHen Yes, and if you check the main room that's exactly what I was wondering.
 
Ah.
I guess this all belongs over there anyway... switching rooms.
 
in English Language and Usage, 12 hours ago, by RegDwight
I'm wondering if that is in response to the recent flood of poor-quality questions.
 
@RegDwight Ah, that was the piece I was missing. Thanks.
 
11:52 PM
The thing is, even if (and that's still an if) it's in response to those questions, it's off-target.
If those questions suck, let us close them.
Not some unrelated 8-month old stuff.
That got us tons of clicks and new users.
 
Which questions, sorry? I've got most of it...
 
@RegDwight Well, if it was recently collided, I can understand the reaction
 
@MrHen No, not recently. Back then.
Only fresh stuff gets autocollidered.
 
Oh, I see. I misattached one of your responses
@MrDisappointment Okay, three points to catch you up: (a) a bunch of crap questions happened recently (b) an old chuck norris question was closed by Jeff Atwood (c) a meta topic about questions on joke meanings has been reactivated
Reg's point is that (a) and (b & c) are unrelated
Or should be.
(Correct me if I am wrong, @RegDwight.)
 
Well, I actually think this is just a coincidence.
But it kind of suggests itself since there are no other explanations.
 
11:56 PM
@RegDwight BTW, tons of clicks and new users via a crap question is not necessarily a good thing. Means and ends and whatnot.
@RegDwight Ah, I see.
 
Why is it suddenly so important that this site is not for ESLers? It wasn't that important when vgv8 was around.
 
@RegDwight I wasn't here then.
 
I don't see Jeff killing vgv8 questions by the dozen. And they were pure, distilled, utter crap.
 
And I don't have a problem with ESL style questions if the questions themselves are interesting.
Ah, I see.
 
@MrHen suffice to say that vgv8 is banned for three years.
 
11:57 PM
Well, as I mentioned, I see jokes, lyrics and poems all part of the same subset
I prefer to keep them off-topic because I would rather not try to explain to people why some questions are trivial and some are interesting.
 
Well, I wouldn't be able to find a link between the points, but maybe it was just what started as a morning without coffee for Jeff...
 
@RegDwight Heh, nice.
 
@MrHen But not by TPTB.
 
@MrDisappointment There probably isn't a link. We are just pondering.
@RegDwight The Powers That Be? I just associated that with Moderators. Am I misreading that?
 
There is a point in jokes being off-topic, though, IMO.
 
11:58 PM
TPTB are devs. Or even above that.
Jeff, Joel, Robert. Dori and Rebecca perhaps.
BTW before there's any misunderstanding, I am not arguing pro or contra jokes.
 
@RegDwight I see. Good to know
@RegDwight I understand.
 

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