The Renderfarm

GiantCowFilms

7:00 PM

@gandalf3 The implementation would a little tricky since PHPs image tools aren't stellar

CharlesL

but i'm not going to track order of pairs, so it'll end up shuffling the words even more!

:DD

gandalf3

Maybe you could use imagemagick? (it has a php API iirc)

GiantCowFilms

I wonder if the community ads peoples would let us open a pop-up with an ad....

gandalf3

@CharlesL \o/

@GiantCowFilms doubt it

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Yah

This is another idea

some users may try dragging though

would be so so so awesome if we could make it upload just like that.

gandalf3

7:05 PM

Meh.. Think it would be too confusing if we did that. Users will get used to that as their primary way of uploading .blends, but the ad won't be displayed all the time

GiantCowFilms

Yah :/

Just a thought

gandalf3

Quite a clever idea

GiantCowFilms

I think we could actually do dynamic text...

php.net/manual/en/function.imagettftext.php

This shouldn't be too hard!

Just run the image through that fine baby and we have our design

@gandalf3 Result: we can show a blend count

shouldn't take over 20 min to setup

gandalf3

\o/

GiantCowFilms

Raleway, fortunately, is a true type font!

CharlesL

7:10 PM

@gandalf3 did you see @David and my awesome story?

Space Pizza - by CharlesL and David

3 hours ago, 41 minutes total – 220 messages, 4 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 3 hours ago by David

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 just keep all the dynamic text to one weight if possible, make things a bit easier

gandalf3

@CharlesL Yep XD

CharlesL

@gandalf3 crazy polar bears amirite? :P

GiantCowFilms

I interrupted it!

CharlesL

@GiantCowFilms nah, you inspired it

GiantCowFilms

7:11 PM

XD

@gandalf3 if you are going to do a dynamic design, leave space for a 4 digit blend count :D

gandalf3

:D

GiantCowFilms

We have space for at least 2000

and are already nearly half way to 1000

gandalf3

o.O

GiantCowFilms

Exactly half way: blend-exchange.giantcowfilms.com/b/500

(that is the newest blend)

gandalf3

:D

GiantCowFilms

7:20 PM

By uploading it the BE you a agree to the Terms of Service, which lets us distribute it however we wan't, including commercially. Please request removal if this is a problem. — GiantCowFilms 4 mins ago

sigh sometime I hate my own TOS, but gotta do what I gotta do...

'cause that license may allow us to move the blends to a new service or something if we need.

gandalf3

I see

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Are you creating a design that would require dynamic text, because I can start working on it now if that is a yes.

gandalf3

Yes :D

Not that it requires dynamic text mind you, just that it would be awesome.. :P

GiantCowFilms

So do you want a dynamic blend count?

gandalf3

Why wouldn't we? ;)

GiantCowFilms

7:27 PM

;)

Considering the hits this will receive, I have to be careful about over querying and stuff

could slow the service

GiantCowFilms

7:43 PM

	    imagettftext(
                $resources["image"],
                $textSettings["size"],
                0,
                $this->x,
                $this->y,
                $textSettings["color"],
                $resources["font"],
                $this->getString()
        );

CharlesL

ucK!! is that PHP?

GiantCowFilms

:D

formatting tip, if you have a billion parameters, put each on a new line!

CharlesL

BUT IT'S PHP?!

GiantCowFilms

So

I like PHP

gandalf3

?

CharlesL

7:44 PM

bleh

GiantCowFilms

all you purists out there...................

CharlesL

I'm a Rails dev

GiantCowFilms

It has nice classes...

feels like C

CharlesL

and I use Go, C or Lua in my spare time

nooononononononoooonononononoonono

it is not like C

it's like bash

gandalf3

Feels more like bash

GiantCowFilms

7:45 PM

Yes, but it feel like it......

gandalf3

XD

^^

CharlesL

it is bash

GiantCowFilms

I've never written bash

CharlesL

be glad

it sucks

GiantCowFilms

:P

gandalf3

7:45 PM

^^^^^^

It's badsh

GiantCowFilms

but if its like PHP, then I would like it.

CharlesL

no you wouldn't

GiantCowFilms

Oh

CharlesL

you would rip your hair out

GiantCowFilms

anyway, for all my PHP, at least I got the job done ;D

gandalf3

7:46 PM

The syntax is... unusual

I came to PHP from bash, and now I think PHP is amazing

CharlesL

for instance: if [ command == 1 ]; then; do_bleh; fi

will work

but if [command == 1]; then; do_bleh; fi

will not

gandalf3

yup

CharlesL

Can you spot the difference?

GiantCowFilms

huh

I see no difference...

gandalf3

lol

GiantCowFilms

7:47 PM

except for two spaces

CharlesL

^^^^

GiantCowFilms

next to the square brackets

ding ding ding

yup

we have a winner

7:47 PM

But PHP is not that bad

gandalf3

exactly

CharlesL

that will cause bash to freak out

@GiantCowFilms have you ever used Ruby?

GiantCowFilms

in PHP 7 :D :D :D we get anonymous classes!

CharlesL

(with Rails)

GiantCowFilms

:D :D :D

Vincent Scalia

7:47 PM

skfb.ly/GMIo

CharlesL

@GiantCowFilms why?!

GiantCowFilms

besides, an array in php = anonymous class

CharlesL

WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT?!!!!

In Ruby class definitions are instances.

Vincent Scalia

@CharlesL because it's a thing!

CharlesL

it gets pretty meta if you want to go meta

gandalf3

7:48 PM

And if [[ command = 1 ]] ; then; :; fi; does something quite different

Vincent Scalia

and i don't belong in this conversation at all

CharlesL

@gandalf3 yep

Vincent Scalia

yipee!

gandalf3

Can't tell if that's "yipe" or "yep"

XD

CharlesL

@VincentScalia just remember, learn ruby, not PHP

yoopie yip

GiantCowFilms

7:49 PM

PHP foreverrr..... dies

CharlesL

@GiantCowFilms seriously, have you ever used ruby, though?

GiantCowFilms

was the joke lost on you...

CharlesL

yep

completely went over my head

GiantCowFilms

PHP forevvv!!..rrr... ahhah dies

more clear now?

Vincent Scalia

@CharlesL theres a book at my library called Object Oriented PHP, but i don't think theres one for Ruby.

GiantCowFilms

7:50 PM

what if I gave you my cause of death

CharlesL

@VincentScalia pff, no one reads books to learn programming

GiantCowFilms

$setting[$config["errors"]()];

CharlesL

@GiantCowFilms it was PHP, not me

@GiantCowFilms barfs

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms Does this have something to do with the die statement...?

CharlesL

abort "i'm finished" << ruby

GiantCowFilms

7:52 PM

@CharlesL that 'compiles'

CharlesL

why is PHP better than ruby?

GiantCowFilms

Because magic methods

Vincent Scalia

i'm importing 365k vertex as obj, lets see how it goes

GiantCowFilms

And the fact I already know how to use it

CharlesL

what do you mean magic methods?

@VincentScalia gl with that

GiantCowFilms

7:53 PM

:D

CharlesL

Ruby's not hard to learn

I learned it when i was 8

GiantCowFilms

$obj->openImage();

$obj->openPng();

CharlesL

JSON.parse(yourstringhere)

Vincent Scalia

@CharlesL he hey! it worked! and with textures!

CharlesL

@VincentScalia ayyyyyyy (at 30 fps i assume?)

GiantCowFilms

7:54 PM

I forgot where I was going with this demo

CharlesL

@GiantCowFilms what's that do? open it as an array?

GiantCowFilms

basically, you can make a function that takes the name of the called method as a variable, and then call any method.

Vincent Scalia

@CharlesL nope, i'm still running full speed! i was expecting it to be way worse

GiantCowFilms

@CharlesL nvm that, I forgot where I was going

here is a good example

gandalf3

Vincent Scalia

7:56 PM

@gandalf3 wait, are there really 9999 blends on there?

gandalf3

Not yet

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 The font is wrong

on the BE logo

gandalf3

It is?

What's it supposed to be?

GiantCowFilms

check all the fonts, they should be railway

Vincent Scalia

@GiantCowFilms looks fine to me

GiantCowFilms

7:56 PM

@VincentScalia Yes, it looks good but is different

gandalf3

Oh I see

GiantCowFilms

:D

CharlesL

@GiantCowFilms where?

GiantCowFilms

nvm

it fell flat to

CharlesL

ruby can do all kinds of metaprogramming

GiantCowFilms

7:57 PM

Its really cool and really useless ;D

CharlesL

and it can create functions on the fly

GiantCowFilms

:P

@CharlesL Meh meh meh

I'm to PHP'd now to turn back

I've even learn't a framework

CharlesL

oh you will soon learn

GiantCowFilms

(horror)

CharlesL

you will soon see the horror

lol

gandalf3

7:59 PM

Fixed

CharlesL

@GiantCowFilms Myclass.new.somenonexistantfunction # => ooh, i can handle this!

Vincent Scalia

@GiantCowFilms change is a good thing.

CharlesL

it's the most meta programming language i've found

have you used Perl at all?

Vincent Scalia

me?

CharlesL

(you might like it if you like PHP)

@VincentScalia no, i was talking to @GiantCowFilms

but @VincentScalia if you want to learn programming, i'd recommend lua or ruby

GiantCowFilms

8:01 PM

@gandalf3 This one looks cluttered

CharlesL

(it's a whole lotta fun ;)

GiantCowFilms

And Maybe the logo at the top be a little bigger?

gandalf3

Should I dump the filedrop section?

GiantCowFilms

I think so

its confusing for those who don't know

I'm also not liking the dark grey, can we go back to white please :D :D :D

CharlesL

@GiantCowFilms the gray makes the white of the blend file pop

GiantCowFilms

8:03 PM

Hmm

CharlesL

did it just have a border before?

gandalf3

Yes

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 Alright that passses

CharlesL

hmm... i kinda like what the box conveys (that you upload it to "exchange"), but it is a little less busy without...

gandalf3

Here's a version with a lighter box:

GiantCowFilms

8:06 PM

I will master the copy without the numbers (to be drawn over dynamically)

@gandalf3 One issue, centering may pose a serious challenge

gandalf3

The image will always be the same size right?

GiantCowFilms

I like the box-less one

gandalf3

I kind of like the box, but I guess either way is fine

GiantCowFilms

The big one is the centered text

that could be hard. Two solutions 1. Find a mono spaced font 2. not center it.... :O

(all fonts that apply for the mono space must be available in tff)

gandalf3

@GiantCowFilms php.net/manual/en/function.imagettftext.php#83248

If you know that, then centering shouldn't be too hard

GiantCowFilms

8:11 PM

Okay. great

can you pull request

I have to go now, be back tomorrow or much later today

gandalf3

For centering codez? or just the image?

/me can write centering codez if you like

(or try anyway :P)

GiantCowFilms

@gandalf3 just image

@gandalf3 Nope, I'm nearly done already

gandalf3

okay

:D

o/

Vincent Scalia

8:57 PM

@gandalf3 the people need to be more muscular

gandalf3

:P

Vincent Scalia

9:32 PM

vote for later than a month here otherwise i won't be able to participate

Space Pizza - by CharlesL and David

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